Generally I agree with you. However, it does solve the problem of inflating all the SEC schools and creating a self-fulfilling prophecy where every loss is "quality" and drops aren't as large for the SEC teams in the polls.
How about this: grab one team from each of the power five and give the best regular season performer a bye?
Don't like that, Notre Dame? FYI: no one cares what you think. Join a conference like the rest of us.
Hmmm.. injuries are counting in the mixed-method approach? If we win out, I have to think that we deserve a partial pass for VTech then. That was just a couple weeks removed from the massive loss of our Heisman candidate, after all.
You know they will have hit absolute rock bottom when our band uses Spartans as the evil villans in the half time show instead of the Block M.
Admittedly, the last three years have made me a little impatient. I think we have seen improvement, but last night had a few more flashbacks to the break and bend defenses we saw in year one under Urbs (and no, it's not lost on me we went undefeated, I think he has done an excellent job taking control and pulling us through the tough ones with his will to win). Totally agree that time is need to bear fruit, but can I at least see some green shoots? Winter is coming!
I will say the one deep ball that Bell was defending was just a show of excellent ball skills by the WR. Von was in his face and took some good swipes - albeit fruitless ones - to continue the analogy. The other two big plays though seemed to be short circuits of who/when there is help coverage. One would think that a Cover 4 would have more dudes to chase down plays.
Just had one nice flashback though of when Roby's blazing speed would come out and he would bail us out during these types of backside coverage fails the last few years. That dude could turn and burn.
Seriously! Wtf was he thinking on that play? When he finally got outside the pocket, I took a sigh of relief that he was going to be smart enough to throw it out of play, but then he tucked it and I just pushed my hat over my eyes and took a drink. It's probably going to be a similar reaction Cardale himself makes when Herman runs it back in the QB room come film study day.
O line all the way! They gave JT tons of time and opened up massive holes for the RBs. Did think Zeke did a great job of always falling forward and outrunning the edge tacklers, as well as JT scanning and seeing the field like a pro, but that all starts with time and push up front.
It appears to me the kid who got taken down was a Buckeye too. Me defending what I believe to be a fellow Buckeye's rights should not warrant questioning of me being a fan of the team and University. I have said multiple times the kid did a dumb thing and deserves the proverbial book thrown at him. What I don't think he deserved was a neck slam by a member of the OSU coaching staff.
Well said, OSU. I, of course, am questioning the appropriateness of the action, but definitely appreciate a clear and fair breakdown of your interpretation.
I'm amazed at the size of your internet muscles. You must work out a lot with the keyboard.
Weak comment. Not only are you being childish and insulting, but you've shown you don't even understand what Americans fight and die for (which is tragic). I'll educate you: they fight for justice and the rule of law. Laws that protect us and our allies from bullies. Bullies that believe strength, physical, military, and/or monetary, gives them the right to harm others without justice.
I'm fighting for this Buckeye kid. Is it popular? Obviously not. Will I continue to mount a defense for someone who I believe was unjustly harmed? You're damned right I will.
Every Fortune 500 company I've worked for does and would strongly advise against doing this type of thing for the risk it opens up to their human and monetary resources. I imagine OSU will likely launch a training on this situation in the very near future which will advise coaches/players/agents of the University to take evasive action in the event of a scenario such as this. Granted, my current and former organizations likely don't employ great ex-linebackers from OSU, but safety of their people and risk management are the paramount concerns and the minuscule benefit of a staff-made take down doesn't outway the risks.
Andy, say it ain't so! I thought for sure you may side with my very, very unpopular opinion just a little bit. I'm officially and fully defeated. I wish I could say I had a good run.
Agreed with most points here. Would question your points about whether a situation where an unauthorized person enters a field of play would inevitably ensue confusion and panic. The fact a number of folks cited multiple warnings not do so would hopefully mean law enforcement was prepared and trained for such a situation and no confusion or panic would overcome law enforcement's ability to act properly.
Is grabbing/tacking a foreseeable outcome? Yes, I would full expect that and hopefully this idiot would too. Is it reasonable that he would expect to leave his feet from a full bodyslam fulcrumed by his neck and head? I don't think so. In fact, if my citation below of Ohio code is correct, that seems to be considered "deadly force" - much higher than my original thought of just excessive force.
108,000 attendees and they can't afford proper security? Troubling thought there.
Then help me out with the definition. My source says excessive force in Ohio is defined as (5120-9-01): "an application of force which, either by the type of force employed, or the extent to which such force is employed, exceed that force which reasonably appears to be necessary". The code goes on to include that applying any force or weight to the head and/or neck area is considered deadly force.
Again, I think the kid was wrong. He did a bad thing and deserves to be punished.
I appreciate that, JVD. Excessive force is certainly a subjective call. I've done some reading on the subject and in some areas you can't even put a choke hold on a suspect. No surprise, there are varying degrees of interpretation state by state - which can be one single step to the right or left if you live on a border like me.
I will generally always lean towards law enforcement's rights and side with their best snap judgement if this type of situation even resembled a dangerous one for themselves or the public. I just don't think that was the case here.
Ultimately, happy we got a huge victory over UC and let the people from the greatest state on Earth figure out all the legal stuff regarding his situation.
Lol! very funny! At least give the kid some pads next time! Maybe then we can agree to unleash AS on him.
If law enforcement/event staff is not trained to handle situations like this, that is just another fail by the administration.
I agree the kid is an idiot and made a huge lapse in judgement. He deserves to be tried and convicted for his crime(s). Does he deserve to be body slammed by a member of the team he obviously supports and probably loves? I don't think so.
I wouldn't be surprised if OSU risk management ensures all coaches and staff go through a mandatory course on this type of behavior in the future. Hopefully they all give AS the stink eye as they all sit through the guaranteed to be boring and onerous course.
I'll take criticism any day of the week fighting for someone's rights. Was the kid an idiot? Absolutely. Was he a distraction? Definitely. Should be be banned from future games? Probably. Is he a Buckeye fan/student? I've heard yes. Does he deserve to be pounded into the ground by a giant for a stupid error in judgement? No.
According to Patrick's post game tweet, Urban's first words after the game were: "If I ever hear about you not being gracious to a student, you won't play here."
I have trouble with this logic. So any person off the street can violently slam you to the ground if you are trespassing? Schlegel should have stayed out of it and allowed trained law enforcement take care of the situation. This screamed of excessive force to me and the fact a person acting as an agent of the University did it is a major fail and should, IMO, lead to suits against the person and OSU.
I don't agree with excessive force. I hope Schlegel is strongly reprimanded and the University properly trains their players and coaches to stay out of this type of distracting and abusive behavior. I can't speak for Urban, but I imagine he isn't thrilled that his coach's time was spent hurting or injuring a fan that was not posing a threat to any member of the OSU family.
Bad form, AS. You tackled and likely injured a buckeye (albeit a dumb one). Check yourself.
I love this debate. There are so many great arguments on both sides. If I was going to start a discussion here, I would probably lean on mutual understanding of words/phrases and sentence flow/comprehension of the material. The latter is why I'm such a big fan of Oxford commas. That application seems to lend towards greater clarity to the reader, therefore, in my opinion, should be the prevailing rule.
Shouldn't there be a comma between "someday" and "DJ"?
I just wanted to be part of this grammar fun the forum has been pushing for lately. As long as I stay away from it's/its, I should be keeping my nose clean. Funny thing, I recall when writing my papers in school, I would purposely avoid constructing sentences that used rules I didn't like or wasn't 100% sure about. Do y'all do the same kinda thing?