Thanks for the article! Its cool to hear a perspective from somebody fairly close to the situation. I liked hearing about how they had to escort Braxton off the field in high school. I remember talking to Terrelle Pryor's high school coach when I was at a football clinic in Pittsburgh. He said the school had to hire security for practices to keep the autograph hounds away!
I think there are a few points that need to be made, that some people on both sides of the argument seem to forget.
1. Before his injury, Braxton was widely regarded as one of (if not THE) best players in college football.
2. Braxton Miller has not played on a team with as much talent and depth as last years team. This goes for the offense and defense.
3. Braxton's stats improved every year and is comparable to JT and Cardale. Remember his stats were produced on less talented teams.
4. We don't know for sure if Braxton's shoulder will ever be the same again.
5. JT Barrett and Cardale Jones are both very capable QB's.
6. It's a good time to be a Buckeye!
Keep in mind that Braxton had those stats in a very one dimensional offense. He was throwing to a WR corps that Urban Meyer called a clown show. Remember the tweet that Michael Thomas made after the Clemson game? Did anybody disagree with his assessment of our WR's? Not to mention our defense and special teams constantly put our offense in better positions last year. Comparing stats doesn't tell the whole story in my opinion.
First of all, I want to say that I coach HS football here in Ohio. I would like to talk to Coach Ash or Coach Carroll about these techniques. I am all for safer tackling. Your head should not be used as a weapon. But I will say that this seems to go against anything I've ever seen or been taught myself about tackling. I've always seen that the head goes across the ball carrier when tackling. A ball carrier can run through arm tackles, but not through the entire body. This seems to be a lot like arm tackling. Also tackling and rolling the ball carrier on top of you has always been a no-no. I'm always looking to adapt and become a better coach. I'd really like to hear their answers to these questions.
We went undefeated in 2012....just saying! Don't forget that it wasn't too long ago that Coach Meyer referred to our WR corps. as a clown show. It's probably hard to throw a clown open. I'm not going to say that we upgraded at the QB position in 2014. I think all 3 are talented, but don't forget in August last year, Braxton Miller was regarded by many as the best player in college football. Braxton was the starter going into last year, and I have to believe it was because he was the best QB on the team. We will see about this year.
Yeah, but how does Braxton not being a good pro prospect at QB relate to him not being the starter at Ohio State? Do you mean to tell me that all great college QB's aren't NFL Hall of Famers?
Braxton will not make it in the NFL as a QB anyway, use him for his strength, his legs.
What does that have to do with anything?
I'm glad you aren't the coach at tOSU if you base who is starting on their remaining eligibility. As a coach myself, I'm pretty sure Urban will play the player that gives him the best chance to win right now. Also you say that Jones and Barrett is a winning formula. You left out a few key ingredients, such as Zeke, a WR corps that is no longer referred to as a clown show, and the return of the Silver Bullets.
The best player will play. Right now that is Cardale Jones, because he is the only one healthy. If all 3 are healthy, I think it will be Braxton because of his experience and the fact that going into last year he was considered by many to be the best player in college football. You can't deny that the team around Barrett/Jones last year was better than any team Braxton has played with.
The great thing is, I won't be disappointed by whomever is named the starter. This team is amazing!
Better bet on the money line! Frank Beamer is going to going to need to call the National Guard to save VT from what is going to happen to them that day!
I appreciate your stats. I think JT is an amazing QB. When his time is finished, he may be undisputed in this discussion. I don't think the stats are a fair comparison though. Would you agree that JT was throwing to a more talented, matured WR group? Finally if you want to talk about dropped balls, I'm pretty sure that we beat MSU and Clemson in 2013 if not for dropped balls.
A bunch of people have suggested Braxton switching to HB/RB. With his biggest drawback being his health/durability, I don't see how he could ever switch to that role and be successful.
My thoughts are that if he is healthy (and that is a big if right now), Braxton will be the starter. I refuse to believe that the only reason he was the starter going in to the 2014 season was because he was the starter in 2013. He was the starter because he was the best player on the roster, maybe the best player in the country. I believe Coach Meyer will play the best person at QB, and if healthy, I think that is Braxton Miller.
Following a recruit and tweeting a recruit is not the same thing. Also, these players are no longer recruits. They are now Buckeyes!
Wish there was a way to put this as a wall paper or gadget on my desktop!
I just started getting a pop up message telling me my browser is out of date. You have to click on it, and it redirects me to a page about updating Internet Explorer, but it isn't a Microsoft page. I'm sure this is more of the same. It only happens the first time I open 11W, and this is the only site. I thought I had a virus at first. Hopefully Google gets it fixed soon.
I know! Can't wait until next season!
Outstanding! Thanks for sharing!
Not trolling for upvotes, but thank you all the same. Just bored, excited, and wishing this season wasn't over! What a ride this last month!
You know that posts in "italics" are meant to be sarcasm, right? Well, you do now.
I see a Flea Flicker coming....
DJ....this is by far your finest piece of work to date! Reading this morning's skully has put me in an amazing mood. I may take some wise man's advice today: "You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning".
I'm going out on a limb here, but I say things get ugly tonight. We have the same D-Coordinator that shut them down the last time we faced off, but our athletes are much better now. I say when the smoke clears the scoreboard reads 54-19 Buckeyes. To quote DJ: "get dumped then, Oregon".
with top ESPN college football analyst Todd Blackledge,
How could you type that with a straight face?
Sorry if I missed this in the rest of the comments, but this has been bothering me. WTF is up with the score box ESPN is using now? I swear it takes up 1/4 of the screen. What happened to the thin one that was at the bottom of the screen? Does this bother anybody else, or am I running out of things to care about before tomorrow night?
I'm assuming that this would be a hypothetical "if all things were equal" question. Obviously if JT had played 10 games straight, you wouldn't bench him for no reason.
Otherwise, I'm still shocked that anybody would pick somebody other than Braxton Miller. One of the best QB's in the country coming in to this season. A Heisman favorite. The past few years, he was the best athlete on the field hands down. I know everybody is going to say: "Barrett is a better passer". Look at the dropped passes Braxton has thrown! *Looks at Corey Smith in the Clemson game* Can anybody say that Braxton has ever had more weapons than Barrett had this year? Receivers couldn't get open! Urban called them a clown show! Now, we have playmakers everywhere! Even Devin Smith, who everybody has said was just a deep threat, is getting open underneath. The WR are making plays! Just like Cardale's first TD against Wisconsin, was that really a great pass? It was a good pass, but it was one hell of a play by Devin Smith to go over the defender and catch the ball.
I love all 3 QB's. We are truly blessed at that position. At the end of each of their careers, we can have a fairer comparison,but right now for me, give me #5 all day.