What was it, a 7-point lead with 2 minutes to go?
Glad one of these nailbiters finally went our way.
11 boards for Loving!
Nobody thought it was the "hardest road" until after the Buckeyes lost -- a loss that's no more excusable 6 years after the fact.
If there has to be a Big Ten voice on the committee, and obviously there has to be, why not make it Smith? He's also a two-fer in that I doubt Notre Dame will be upset about his presence, and I don't think he has to recuse himself if the Irish come up (as unlikely a prospect as that seems right now).
Does our band know "The Rains of Castamere?" Because they might want to learn it.
It's strange how much Gibson's journey to Cincinnati resembles Gunner Kiel's.
The redshirt last year was a mistake. I always see a lot of people talking about the risk of "burning a redshirt," but how many players have we had the last few years who redshirted and then stayed 4 years afterwards? Pretty much just linemen.
Neither did Peyton Manning.
And when those players transferred, a whole lot of posters here said "addition by subtraction." When the Amir Williams class left, a whole lot of posters here said "addition by subtraction." But things keep getting worse.
The 2015 team did win a game in the NCAAs while the 2014 team lost their first game. That's the one element preventing us from being on a six-run run of getting progressively worse. And there doesn't seem to be obvious help coming in development from the current newcomers or next year's newcomers.
The rebuild won't happen under this regime. It didn't at Michigan, it didn't at Indiana, and it won't here.
I love this place sometimes.
1. Noah Brown is too slow for the NFL! He didn't produce except for Oklahoma!
2. But he should come back anyway to improve his draft stock! He's making the biggest mistake of his life!
Fact is, for a wideout, your size and speed count for a whole lot in determining what kind of prospect you are, and Brown isn't getting bigger or faster. I can't see how coming back would improve his prospect status, even if he caught more balls next season, which he probably would have. And if he had another catastrophic injury, all the people telling him today how stupid he is won't help him one bit.
I see him as only a so-so NFL prospect (better than Philly Brown, but not nearly at the level of Thomas), but I do wish him well.
The Buckeyes have been quite a bit more successful recently than LSU or USC. As for Alabama, the strength of that program lies in their consistently awesome offensive and defensive lines, and those are the positions where it's much less common for someone to leave for the pros after three seasons.
"Smart move" also because I suspect it wasn't totally voluntary. Fifth-year seniors who are on scholarship and not in the rotation have become extinct in the Meyer era.
Remembering the 2013 recruiting season, I seem to recall Lisle was thought of a bit more highly than Billy Price. Goes to show that you never know.
#7 would equal about a 10-2 regular season.
I would agree that doesn't come across as a huge showing of disrespect.
Foles was already a Ram in 2015.
I think the turning point of Weber's season was his fumble against Michigan State, at a point of the game where it looked like a score might finally open up some breathing room for us. The staff lost faith in him after that.
Still not sure why Meyer seems to only want to use one true running back in any given season.
In a sense it's true that the "comeback fell short," given how lousy they looked in the first half, but they also led with less than 5 minutes left in the game. It's just as accurate to say they couldn't close.
On a day where there were a couple of big upsets by road teams in the conference. a loss like this just further illustrates how mediocre we've become.
Like I said in the postgame thread, it's one thing to say Clemson has a good defense, and quite another to say that there's no good way to attack them (which may very well be the case vs. Alabama). The points they allowed against Florida State, Louisville, and Virginia Tech (the three ranked teams on their schedule) strongly suggest that they aren't a historically good D, tempting as it might be for Buckeye fans to want to think that today. Clemson stopped us because of our total predictability.
Needs for the future:
1. A willingness to attack the middle of the field in the passing game.
2. A running back with the size and durability we've come to expect here. A reliable second option out of the backfield would be nice too (even Zeke barely played as a freshman).
3. An end to the side-to-side plays in the absence of very strong edge blocking.
Earle himself was fired the same year Woody died. I don't think that's a total coincidence.
Smith may have similar job security.
A few comments:
1. Clemson does have a good defense. But look what happened against the better teams on their schedule. All three ranked teams they played before today scored at least 30 points on them. So did unranked Pitt. I think the Buckeyes psyched themselves out with their gameplan, assuming they couldn't attack Clemson directly even though they had a center-guard combo that were All-Americans.
2. I've said this before, but the "third-and-short, empty backfield, 4 receivers,Barrett keeps" thing is so predictable that unborn babies know it's coming. It works against the MAC, it works against Rutgers, but we've seen before that the better teams can stop that. The Buckeyes need to show that they're willing to throw in those short yardage situations, even if it means a few incompletes now and then. It might seem silly given how badly we lost, but I really think if we convert that early third-and-1 and go on to take a 7-0 lead, it might be a different sort of game.
3. People who want to give Tyler Durbin a hard time really ought to keep in mind that it's COLLEGE FOOTBALL.No one is automatic from long distance.
4. Turnovers are obviously bad, but I sometimes wonder if Meyer is turnover-averse to a fault. Barrett seems absolutely unwilling to fit the ball into tight windows (Watson obviously is not), and Weber never got out of the doghouse after the fumble against Sparty.
5. For Meyer to say in the postgame presser that he had no idea the Bucks had only 6 called running plays in the first half is a level of disengagement in what's happening that I associate more with John Cooper. Stunning.
More tomorrow as new thoughts occur. For now, time to 'celebrate." Ugh. And go Jackets, I guess.
It's lame when beaten teams say it about us; it's lame for us to be playing that card.
1. Buckeyes are averaging more yards per rush than they are per pass.
2. Buckeyes are doing nearly as well on a per-carry basis as Clemson is (4.1 vs. 3.8).
A fatally flawed offensive game plan.
I'm tired of the Ariana Grande offense -- working side to side. I miss being able to man up and run directly at other teams.
When you see Watson hitting receivers in stride over the middle, you wonder why a program at the level of Ohio State can't seem to ever run those plays.
Wait till next year. Clemson has better players, a better coach, and the best QB in college football.
Big Ten haters have to be loving this postseason.
I think we can safely put the "you can't beat Urban Meyer when he has time to prepare" myth to bed. This is an undressing reminiscent of 10 years ago. Even with multiple breaks (two turnovers and a long kickoff return), we can't do a thing with them.
Why is a team with an All-American center and All-American guard so unwilling to just line up and run at Clemson? The same Pitt team that couldn't beat Northwestern moved the ball all day on these guys.
Until other teams know that the Buckeyes are willing to throw intermediate passes over the middle, our passing game is going to be very easy for good teams to defend. Swing passes and deep sideline patterns are all we can seem to do.