Our redzone offense has been terrible, and that's not just today. This season we just haven't done well in close. Last week we could have blown the doors off WMU, we had several stahled drives. Just hard to watch right now.
Repeating has nothing to do with playing good football. Law of averages says you're probably going to lose at some point that's why it's hard to repeat. It's not hard to put up competent offense against IU. Right now, Ohio State just doesn't look very good. They haven't all season. It's not because they are trying to repeat, though, it's because they are just not playing good football. They have been far too careless with the ball, the play calling has been atrocious. The QB just isn't playing well. The O-Line has seen better days.
Cardale just isn't good behind center. He is indecisive with the ball. He tries to unload an Aroldis Chapman fastball far to often. He's not good on the option when they do run the option. On a designed run he ran right into 3 defenders. The kid did great in the post season last year, but he's just not good enough right now.
Just because someone is negative and has a couple spelling mistakes doesn't open the door for DV. The DV is meant for people who are being assholes to other posters. It's not meant to simply disagree with people. At the end of the day no one should really care about upvotes or downvotes because they are meaningless.
I feel pretty strongly about this topic myself. I played a lot of sports. I was in baseball, basketball, bowling, karate, hell even academic team in high school and I always wanted to win. Even at 5 years old we knew when we lost and we didn't like it, we wanted to win just 1 game. We didn't. Did my parents think it was horrible that my coach gave us a trophy???? No not at all, and you know what I think that's fine. When you are young like that in sports it's more about teaching the game and learning teamwork. The only being rewarded if you are a winner philosophy, to me, takes a lot of joy out of the game in the younger years. There is plenty of time to cut the bad kids and take your best shot against other teams later in late middle school and highschool.
I was at a friend's house playing poker and his nephew came in with his dad. Kid was 9 years old playing on a baseball team where they played 50 games per season, they had 2 or 3 uniforms, their own personalized bat bags, and all this junk that was unneccessary. The kid was talking about how the game sucked and he was horrible. He struck out 2 times and made an error. His grandpa and uncle were like what was wrong with you? HE WAS 9!!!!!!!! The way he talked and acted I honestly believed the kid didn't even enjoy baseball, and who could when you are playing 50 games and your team is under that much stress to have to win. Anyway, I'll get off my soap box. If it's a state track meet and you come in 50th place, or you are the first football team out of the playoffs, no don't get a trophy. I absolutely agree with that. When you are 9 years old you should be having fun in the dirt with your friends.
To me Cardale has always been too careless with the ball. Even in the playoffs. I thought he may have started better, the problem is, if he's looking this bad I have to wonder how bad JT has looked in camp to not be able to take it away from him.
For the turmoil he went through with the season between Tress and Urban, to carrying the team to 12-0, and all the injury/comeback/taking on a new position, I think Braxton's jersey should be retired on Senior Day. Traditionalists will blast me for it I'm sure, but other big name schools and big names in other sports have done stuff like this before. He's probably not winning the Heisman, and that's ok, he's still the most electric Buckeye ever, he's given more to the program than any player in my lifetime, and he's been nothing but class his entire tenure here.
I feel like he has been quite under appreciated by the fan base as a whole. It was a pretty common opinion that he was a drama queen, he was soft or that last year he was unhappy about other's success, or that he was leaving to go to another program and on and on. I wish the guy would never leave!
My first year playing baseball, I was 5 years old. We went 0-10. I got a trophy at the end of the year and to this day its my favorite "award" I ever received in sports. It's more prized than my MVP award for a very competitive summer league's All Star Game, it was more treasured than a high score trophy I received for my youth bowling league where I scored a 256 when I was 13. It was more prized than my varsity letter in baseball and all the other medals, ribbons, and trophies I accumlated along the way for teams and individual accomplishiments. That season my team went 0-10 and I probably had 2 hits all year I was rewarded, and thank God for that, if not for that first season and trophy, I may not have accomplished any of the other things.
better to walk in on them at 14 than at 34!
The problem is, JT didn't look good either. He was throwing behind guys, missing passes, and had a pretty bad pick in his own right and an even worse one that was dropped. Can Braxton throw yet? Let's get that guy under center again.
I do think IMG is a joke as a "school". Is it really any different than any of these crazy basketball schools out there. I can think several of those programs right off the top of my head. I honestly don't really think it's all that different than traditional football programs. Well except for the whole bringing in guys from all over the country. Schools like Trinity in Louisville, or any of the big catholic schools in Cincinnati are drawing talented kids from all over the area and sometimes the state when their parents just happen to get a job in the area.
So do you think LSU playing in the cold Wouldin't win at least 3 of those four games? Cold and weather can impact the game, but at the end of the day it's talent all day long. Not only that, but it just overall doesn't get that damn cold unless you are very late in the season anymore.
Auburn and Georgia don't have too hard of a time going to Knoxville and Lexington in November and winning games. Are they Minnesota cold? Probably not, but Lexington and Bloomington aren't that much different. It's not as if these schools don't play In November in places that can be cold. Missouri is going to be simmilar to some B1G type weather too. I just think we put WAAAYYYY too much emphasis on the weather.
The if this team were in that conference argument is dumb and tired. Talent and coaching wins games. Right now, no team has more talent or a better coaching staff than this one. I am a little concerned about the impact of losing Herman though. At any rate, for a long time there hasn't been a better collection of talent and coaching than the SEC. Last year we hung our hat on Wisconsin beating Auburn. It was a good game and that is something to be proud of. I think, though, that in the SEC last year there were 7 teams with comparable if not better talent than Wisconsin overall. That's the difference between the conferences to me. The B1G typically has 2 really good teams, 1 good team and then some solid teams like Minnesota. The SEC still only has that 1 or 2 really elite teams, it's just the level of good teams so far outclasses everyone else. I don't think they should have 10 teams in the top 25, but 7 in the top 15 or top 20 to me isn't that outrageous. Especially when teams like 2 loss Clemson (every year) hangs around or a few multi loss B1G teams can hang in there etc. That's not saying a Wisconsin can't beat LSU, just that if LSU and 6 other schools did play in the B1G, They probably come in the top 3 or 4 in the B1G.
It stayed too close for too long, but this game never felt close to me. There were plenty of days when Tressel's teams would "bend but not break" on D and we would win big but give up 500 yards to a MAC school. Today, the D just utterly dominated Hawaii. That is a scary unit out there. Conley is a beast.
I think the QB who will lead this team to a title is going to be..........Braxton Miller. He touches the ball and good things happen. I can't wait til the first time he's a "wildcat" QB and he launches one downfield. Neither QB looks very good at the moment. I agree we need a starter to be named. Cardale is too careless with the ball though, and I'm not sure he really goes through his progressions all that well. JT mostly just looked rusty in my opinion, Had a couple guys open, would have been nice plays just missfired.
She Mark May'd PSU. This reaction is exactly what she wanted. PSU boards are talking about her, people here are talking about PSU talking about Elika.
I think Wilson is the next Bradon Seine. A guy with elite speed who can't break tackles, and honestly doesn't have slick moves like Marshall or Braxton. I'm not saying he can't be a nice player, I just don't think he's ever going to be an "elite" player for this team. That's not a bad thing. Quite frankly it really doesn't matter. The offense is already loaded. If he becomes a star, awesome, if not he can be a good role player.
I don't think that question is easy to answer. I think if the question is who would run the offense better right now? JT. If the Question is who do I think would be better come November? I'll probably go with Cardale.
Playing Cardale now to save JT for next year is nonsense. If you have a chance to win a title now, you do it now, not plan for next year and what may happen. Cardale is the QB now because Urban believes by the time the meat of the schedule gets here (November December, and January) Cardale could make Ohio State unstoppable.
Next year, JT being saved or not, is going to be tough. REALLY tough. We'll lose so much on both sides of the ball I really don't think we'll legitamately have a claim at a "3 peat". It doesn't mean we'll be bad, but it won't come easy. Meyer would be doing JT a disservice by benching him this year so he can stay and start next year.
Cardale is a little too careless with the ball and needs work on things like the option pitch. He is starting because the dude can hit a guy in stride from 40 yards while he is fading away. He can throw a jump pass 20 yards. I believe strongly that right now, running the offense, JT would be more efficient. The guy could win a Heisman. With him the team and offense are very strong. He didn't start that way though. He had some rocky times like Va Tech last year, and a lot of his passes (especially early on) were pop passes that are just glorified hand offs. It's not a knock on JT, it just didn't happen overnight that he was complete.
Cardale's ceiling is just soooooo high. He can plan the next several weeks getting the majority of the snaps and improve. Think about that, he'll have the ability to get better. He won't be the 3rd stringer who was thrown into 3 of the most important games in school history with no warning. He's going to be a guy that the offense is actually built for. If it doesn't work, by the time we get to the meat of our schedule JT can take the reins and we know he'll succeed. By then maybe even a certain H-Back could take snaps. The kicker is, if Cardale improves week after week, by the time we get to the playoffs again, we could take an already elite offense into a category that perhaps no team has ever acheived. We'll have a QB who can take off and bulldoze people like Tebow did. We'll have the best RB in the country (maybe not but close) we'll have the best H-Back in the history of H-backs by then, we'll have elite guys who can get the ball in space, and we'll have a QB who can hit the best WR in this years draft class in stride 65 yards down field.
JT makes this offense Elite. A complete finished product in Cardale could make this offense perhaps the best offense college football has ever seen.
I think we need to knock ourselves as fans down a few pegs. Even a mediocre Buckeye team is treated like kings and people on campus in in public are pumping the kid's egos, because regular fans are excited to see those guys on a daily basis. There is no correlation between fans on here being cocky about the Buckeyes and if they are truly a legendary team, and what happens on the field. Shit happens out there. Sometimes all the bounces go one team's way. Sometimes, guys just have an off day. Cardale is careless with the ball, that could hurt us one game. Or we just don't quite fire on all cylinders one game. That has nothing to do with fans discussing if this team is one of the greatest in history or not.
If guys stay healthy, there's a real chance we could have 7 guys drafted in the first round. That would be the greatest haul in history from one team in one draft. There's a real chance that double that go in the first 3 rounds. This team is a truly special collection of talent. More so than any of Saban's Bama teams. More than USC, more than Da U.
Couldn't agree more. We can laugh that Tennessee is ranked, but who in the ACC, B1G, Big 12, or PAC 12 do you rank ahead of them at this point? They've recruited well, maybe they get blow out this weekend, maybe they beat Oklahoma, either way eyeball test wise, they look better than anyone in the B1G save for Ohio State and MSU.
We can deny that the SEC isn't good all we want and we'd be wrong. I honestly don't think any of the B1G west could beat the first 5 teams in the SEC west. I would take Alabama, Auburn, LSU, A&M, and Ole Miss over anyone in the B1G west, and I'd probably even say Arkansas and Miss St should be favored in a game against any B1G west team.
Wisconsin has a bad QB, and no playmakers at WR. Minnesota has no QB at all, a solid D, but not much else to get excited about. The rest of that division is a shit show.
Where did the NCAA ever name Calipari or prove he ever did anything wrong? Jim Harrick, Tarkanian, Bruce Pearl, Kelvin Samson, all those guys the NCAA was on like white on rice. They constantly drilled those guys. How come, then, they have never actually implicated Calipari the coach? 2 times there were some infractions and neither had anyting to do with Cal.
At one point in time, if you came to 11w, you would find plenty of posts about Urban being a scumbag too. Something tells me if Cal was at the helm in Columbus rattling off final four appearances people would be defending his past like people do for Urban now. . I really like Urban, and I'm glad he came here. I think Calipari gets heat for a lot of things he had nothing to do with. I also think Cal does a lot of stuff Tressel always gets praised for. They'll have special needs kids coming in to view practices, the team does mission work, and many other things.
I think all things being equal, Urbs and Cal are similar when it comes to motivation, recruiting, and being politicians. The biggest difference is, Urban is an elite coach in terms of actual preparing for games and putting together a game plan. I think Cal is good, but Urban is truly elite. That's why Urban is going to go down as a top 5 coach in his sports history, and Cal will be known as a great coach.
As for the scumbag stuff, I think it's funny. We are a fan base who worships a guy who has had NCAA trouble at 2 schools. We preach about how he always did the right thing, when in the end him not doing the right thing cost the program. I loved Tressel, but at the end of the day, he got caught cheating. Calapari never has had anything actually implicate him.
This schedule is atrocious. The bad part about next year is, we'll be replacing so many guys (i know i know we reload) that we may lose a couple and everyone will say SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY PLAY SOMEONE!!!!!!!!
2017 looks very intriguing. Oklahoma at the Shoe then the next week @ North Carolina.