I've been seeing this stuff everywhere recently with Torrance Gibson... what has Gibson showed thus far? If anything, he's probably the most raw WR on the entire team and you could tell from the coach's comments this whole off-season that he has a long, long way to go. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel he would have been about the 9th man in this rotation and would not have made a difference. Special athlete, yes... but hell, he was behind Mack for most of the spring and we're seeing how much of an impact he's making.
Agreed on all 5.
The team misses Torrance Gibson badly, who was going to be the 8-10th guy probably in their WR rotation? I doubt he would be making a difference; he's the most raw receiver out of all of them, and I think that's probably the biggest problem with the unit. Athleticism is there; they just aren't natural receivers.
This is not the #2 team in the nation. Not even close.
Does Barrett realize on 3rd down the objective is to advance the ball past the fucking sticks? Dear god...
7 games in... this passing attack is not going to get much better. It is what it is... (not good).
To me, at least the way I hear it in my head, they just quoted him for how he actually said it. It was just the way he worded it, not to imply they are actually just a "little bit" athletic. Just like when it's cold out, someone might say "yeah, it's a little bit chilly out there". Also, him saying Michigan's defense is athletic as well shows that he feels the Ohio State defense is athletic, which is obvious as shit to anyone that watches them.
I had thought he actually said the Ohio State defense wasn't as good as Michigan's. That might not be wrong, but that's bulletin board material. This is nothing.
Ohio State wins 31-21.
I mean... is this the actual full quote?
"They're a little bit athletic; and Michigan was a bigger defense, they're athletic as well. We don't really try to compare the defenses. They don't really do too many things that are similar from a game plan standpoint."
We're calling that bulletin board material? Basically he said the Ohio State and Michigan defenses are athletic (they are), they're not very similar in what they do (they aren't), and Michigan's is a little bigger (it is).
You gotta remember, current players that were 4-star recruits and above are NOT allowed to be critiqued on this site. Once they graduate you're good to go though, and people will then say what they've been waiting to say for 3-4 years and it's all good. I think the only players I can think of that didn't have this immunity were Joe Bauserman and Pittsburgh Brown.
How does a post like this get 3 downvotes? I've never understood how it's acceptable for certain players to get trashed on this site, but fairly criticize the play of a fan favorite and you'll get downvoted to oblivion.
Doubt the true freshman receivers see much meaningful time next year, just like every other year. Too much depth there. We heard the same thing about Mack before this season and others in previous years.
Clear as can be all season this passing game needed a lot of work. The stats were incredibly misleading. Barrett's regression post Herman is unbelievable
I mean... I understand when it's Tulsa you're playing. Not a freaking Indiana team that could beat you. I don't buy it, and I didn't buy it all last season when people kept saying it over and over.
Expecting a 4 quarter nail biter Saturday night, and I'll be pleasantly surprised with anything else.
The weather is going to be a HUGE factor. Even without the possible showers and wind gusts my prediction would be 21-13 Bucks.
I think Denzel Ward and Damon Arnette may have something to say about that...
Regardless, you're right on there being a big time turnover in the secondary again this season. Gonna lose 3/4's of it I presume.
I wonder if he's truly going to be a CB here or if it's similar to the Jordan Fuller situation; an obvious safety, but everyone said he was going to play CB... and was moved to safety immediately upon arrival.
Bosa's going to be a really, really good NFL player for a long time... (who could have saw that coming?)
Forgot to mention Conley. He's a possible 1st rounder too next April... just crazy.
You really have to be a good prospect to go round 1 as a guard these days; without a doubt the least valued position in the NFL it seems. Only 3 have went round 1 the last 3 years and they averaged 6-4, 316 lbs. Not saying it couldn't happen though; all it takes is one team to fall in love with a guy.
I agree on Kwon and Samuel... they gone. Think both end up in the 2nd round.
Hubbard? I initially thought he would pre-season, but now I don't think so. Lewis... yes, probably. He'll have graduated and his stock won't get any higher. I think he's a very solid mid round pick. Price, J.T., Worley, Baugh, Jamarco? I don't see any of those guys leaving, and only because I don't think it would make sense for them. There's not a 1st or 2nd rounder in that bunch.
Hooker and Lattimore are 1st rounders next April, and middle 2nd rounders at the latest.
I'd be very surprised to see Elflein go round 1. Great college player, but C's generally don't go very early in the NFL and his measureables (probably 6-2, 300 lbs) are going to hurt him during the draft process I think.
Out of the 11 receivers on the current roster that have eligibility to return, I see 6 coming back almost assuredly, one leaving early for the NFL (and it's not Noah Brown. He has no where to go), and 4 guys I could definitely see not returning.
It doesn't get much better than Ohio State as an overall football program, but I'll be honest... if I was an elite, 5-star WR with my pick of any school (surprisingly, I am not), I'm not exactly sure I'd be dying to play in this passing offense. You'll be run blocking 68% of the time, not really running a full route tree, and even fringe first round talents like Mike Thomas and Devin Smith aren't going to catch more than 40 - 50 balls in a season. On the bright side though, I think the passing game looks like it should improve these next few years with personnel and possible philosophical changes.
If they want Harris in this class with the number crunch they currently have, the sheer number of receivers they have returning next season, and two 5 star WRs already in the fold, that tells you all you need to know about what they think of Harris's talent.
Except he stayed committed to Wisconsin for more than 10 months after that 59-0 destruction. I'm sure it didn't help, but I don't think it was a major factor.