Basically, there's going to be a lot of guys that are weeded out after this season and a lot of underperforming 4th year juniors / slow developing underclassmen that aren't welcomed back and are essentially cut. There's no denying that.
Who saw Darron Lee being an early entry player though straight outta high school? Or Eli Apple and Jalin Marshall, both players that I've read struggled a good bit their freshman seasons. If a guys not ready year one, why not redshirt him and preserve a year when at that moment it looks like the likelihood of them leaving early is slim. Never know what could occur injuries / transfers wise.
Hard to really predict how a player will develop. It's just a gamble. In most recruiting classes, you might have 2-5 guys good enough that will be able to leave after 3 seasons. And most guys aren't ready to contribute heavily as true freshmen.
I just think the countless practice reps they'll get even in a redshirt season are more valuable then the 20 or so mop up plays they might get when a game is already in hand.
I agree and I was saying it all along that numbers weren't the issue; they were going to have 10 potential DTs on the roster in 2016.
Quality on the other hand? We'll have to wait and see on that. They wanted the big fish and struck out, but I don't think the situation is dire.
I think he'd excel inside. John Simon played a ton at the 3-technique at 6-1, 265 - 270 lbs and Bosa is just much more gifted as an athlete with a better frame / size potential. I'd argue it may be the best spot to put him at on the DL; undersized DT's (Aaron Donald, Geno Atkins) with that kind of explosion are hard to block.
I'd say he'll be moved around all over the place.
Definitely agree. Total tossup on the two TE.
I do remember hearing that about Cornell, but was it weight room "weak" we're talking about I'm assuming? I remember a few people making a big deal about Jonathan Hankins only getting 225 7 times heading into his sophomore season.
I think Cornell is a real good bet to move inside. 18 year true freshman that show up at 265 lbs usually aren't staying on the edge.
Definitely play the best guys no matter what. I also agree with your 2nd point... wasting a year of a kids eligibility just to get a few snaps on special teams or mop up duty always seemed pretty pointless to me. If a freshman isn't cracking the 2-deep and isn't an absolute standout on special teams, redshirt him.
Oh yeah, I'd love for him to go 1st round. Just not to the Bengals haha. I think he still has a long ways to go as a WR.
Will play significant minutes (in 2-deep): Pridgeon, Bosa
Will play here and there: McCall, Mack, Fuller
Might get some special teams action / mop-up duty: Williams, Cooper, Jones, Hausmann
Redshirt: Victor, Gerald, Wohlabaugh, Cupp, Jordan, Farrell, Hawkins, Haskins, Davis, Felder, Barrow, Harrison, Borland, Wint, Burns
IMO, of course.
I think Tyquan is strictly a DE, and it would be asking a lot to have him put on another 25-30 lbs to get to the 290 range when he's already added around 30-35 lbs since becoming a Buckeye. Just doesn't seem realistic or logical.
They've got Jones, Cornell, and Thompson all likely moving inside; there's plenty of time for PT outside at DE. In fact, I think he's the #3 DE from the start next season.
I see the depth chart being:
LE - Hubbard, Bosa, Slade
DT - Munger, Sprinkle / Jones / Cornell / Barrow / Thompson
NT - Hill, Landers / Hamilton / Alabi
RE - Lewis, Holmes, Cooper
Would not be happy with Braxton in the first as a Bengals fan. In the 2nd, I could eventually be intrigued.
Yeah, I always just want the best man to play (and they always will) instead of just hoping the higher ranked recruits win the positional battles, which is what most people do. People see more stars = higher upside, but that's not always the case. Worley will be tough to beat for that SLB spot.
I agree. I guess I'll believe Pridgeon is starting day one when I see it. I remember hearing similar stuff about Smith, and he ended up redshirting his first year and was simply a depth guy the next two seasons.
People are so quick to have Knox and Burrell starting over Lisle and I have no idea why.
He also said that Corey Smith would play right away as a juco with junior eligibility, and yet he ended up red shirting his first season at OSU.
This will probably be the line. Not sure why people keep moving Price from LG to RG for no particular reason, where's he started the past two years.
Just type in "Braxton Miller height senior bowl" on google for other sources. All of the other Buckeyes measured really closely to their listed heights as well.
Ohio State is one of the few schools out there that doesn't exaggerate heights and weights of guys that much. They're always pretty close.
Braxton measured in at 6' 1 3/8", about where I figured he'd measure in at.
I agree. You hear / see it every season. Mack's a little closer to being ready, but I don't expect much from him or Victor this season. Lot of guys that have been in the system for years and still haven't been able to break through.
However, I won't count him towards the number of Buckeyes drafted.
Yeah, had Spence not gotten himself booted from OSU, there was no way he was sticking around for the 2015 season anyway. He never would have been in this class.
I'm greedy, I suppose.
Even though he technically should be considered a Buckeye, I pretty much think of him strictly as a EKU player these days. It's easy to forget he was originally a OSU player at times.
Oh, what could have been in 2014... Bosa, Spence, Washington, Bennett... sigh...
Everything I've read points to Lisle being ahead of Knox and Burrell at this point, so I don't think there's a chance with him.
The others you've listed are possibilities though.
I was wondering when these were coming out...
The guy is a playmaker. Seems like he'd be just as good of a WR prospect as he is a DB prospect, but I have to say after watching his sophomore, junior, and senior highlights... I've never thought "this kid is a CB". I think he'll eventually end up at safety after his freshman year and be great there.
And that would give them 14 DT in 2017. Don't you think that's a little much?