Crappy lazy questions are exactly what they get asked all day every day by the media...if he has trouble teeing off on softballs, just wait until they find some legit adversity and he has to answer some difficult questions that no one wants to have to answer. I can't wait until he takes his shirt off during a press conference. This guy is batshit nuts.
My emotions pretty much just go straight to crushed despair after an Ohio State football loss. I get angry during the game...when I curse and shout and generally act like a child. Afterwards, I'm usually just pretty somber. Don't think I've ever just that thoroughly given up on a team that quickly and that adamantly that I call for everyone to be fired or that all of our players are blatant crap. The one time I think I posted after a game was to bitch about LeBron after he beat the Cavs in Cleveland and he hit a 3 and stood there and mean mugged the entire Cleveland sideline crowd for a solid (literally) 10 seconds. Even then it was a 50/50 split of LeBron agreement and disagreement and I wound up coming out on the positive end sticker-wise because I was at least civil to people and didn't call them names and what not.
We can never let this die. It's part of who we are now.
Being reported that the Cavs and Spurs have been in trade talks for Haywood's contract. Trying to shed salary to make a run at Aldridge. Additionally, Twitter blowing up about mutual interest between Mo Williams and Cavs and that the two sides are supposed to meet when free agency starts. That would make me so happy.
lol, Luke Ridnour got traded again.
Wouldn't be an awful candidate for the Cavs' mid-level exception. Especially if they wind up replacing JR. He'd just have to agree to take less money than he'd probably get a lot of other places. I doubt it'll happen, I see him going somewhere for 3 years $18-20mil or 4 years $21-24mil. All we can offer him with the MLE is about $3.5mil per season.
Cavs looked mighty unstoppable when they were at full strength after they made the January trades as well. Sure looked like the best team in the League, tbh.
I'm failing to see the flexibility we have that other teams do. Two things would prevent a trade, we'd have to let Love and JR and probably others walk and sign elsewhere before we could execute a s&t with Miami for starters. League put in a rule a couple years ago that I was unaware of until someone pointed it out that you cannot execute a s&t when one of the teams (the Cavs) is over the luxury tax apron. That makes this all a moot point right there...but aside from that, who do we have that is available and that they would even want? Draft picks would be the only thing desirable, but we don't have a 1st rounder in 2016 and we can't trade a 2017 first rounder, which doesn't have a ton of value anyway, since it's going to be picking around 30th. Even if we weren't prevented by NBA rules, Pat Riley definitely strikes me as the kind of guy that would, out of spite, block a s&t to Cleveland even if it meant missing out on a first rounder.
And if you'd rather let Love, JR, and others walk just to have the ability to acquire/trade for Wade, you're talking about a huge mistake.
Oh, well in that case I agree haha
Huh? In what possible way? It's a non-guaranteed contract. It's like the best possible contract for a non-playing player on your team. It's the only asset the Cavs have as a bargaining chip this offseason. The Cavs have one of a few options, trade it now to a team looking to shed salary and get a quality veteran who can help the team back. Trade it for next to nothing to a team that's well under the cap and give yourself a trade exception that you can hold onto and maybe look for a better trade possibility for a better player when the inevitable few teams are having a firesale at the trade deadline. If all that fails, you simply cut him and you don't have to pay him a dime and his full $10.5M cap hit for next year is erased from the books.
Yeah, you're better to see what you have in Russell if you like him so much. Cousins is really really good...but it's not like you're talking one of the elitist of the elite players in the NBA. The Kings ownership doesn't want to give him up so they're going to ask for a haul for him. Just not worth it. Now, I'll say all this and then turn around and defend the Cavs trading their top pick for Kevin Love, but that's different...Cavs weren't going to have any money to spend on any free agents, the Cavs flipped the switch to "win now" mode with an in-prime LeBron and Cleveland also just isn't the free agent destination LA is. The Lakers are probably the number 1 free agent destination. Be patient, people will come to you. I think Aldridge is a very real possibility. Gasol, probably not. He's very rooted in the Memphis community, from everything I've heard. Marc's been living in Memphis since 2001 when Pau played there and he even went to HS there.
Yeah, you're absolutely right there. They're going to match anything offered to him. There's no way he's worth a max deal, but in a world where LeBron's essentially forcing everyone's hand...I could see it happening. It'd be smart to match an offer extended by anyone else. What worries me is, sort of like Eric Bledsoe, some time will just go ahead and extend him the max, knowing that they can afford it because of the cap jump in the next few years. A max deal now could well end up being the going rate for a player like TT in the future climate, maybe even a bargain (depending on how much TT improves).
You're right on with Andy as well. There's nothing they'll be able to do with him this offseason, nor do i really want them to try to do. It'd be nice to get rid of his contract at some point, but I'll be sad if it ever happens. Love that guy. He could have value as an expiring contract at the trade deadline, not this upcoming season, but the one following. Or, maybe they let him expire for the cap relief. Re-sign him to a much more realistic deal after that. I'd like to keep him around, he's still a really really good player, imo...he just can't stay healthy whatsoever.
The plan is that both will be back. They're going to do whatever necessary to get Tristan back. And he'll come back unless they really go out of their way to low-ball them...which I don't think they even can with the leverage LeBron holds over everyone there. They're probably going to wind uphaving to offer him the max.
Verajao won't be going anywhere, not because he isn't an ideal candidate to get rid of to offload money...but because no one else in the trade market will want him. He's on the wrong side of 30, he has a serious injury every year, and he's set to make $10+ per year over the next 2 (maybe 3? can't remember) seasons. I'd be surprised if they could find buyer for him. Yet, he's still a valuable player that can offer you energy and flexibility up front. I'll be excited to have him back next year, honestly. He'll be coming off the bench behind Timo and hopefully only asked to play about 12-15 or so minutes a night. Hopefully that can keep him healthier for longer throughout the season.
I understand that it's a result of the TV revenue, however it's also determined by the Basketball Related Income split between the owners and players. The players had a rough negotiation the last time that took them from getting 57% of the BRI pie down to 51ish% of the pie. The last round of negotiations and what was perceived as a major victory for the owners raised a lot of the eyebrows of high profile players (notably the most powerful player in the League, LeBron James) who typically wouldn't pay much attention to what's going on. These kinds of players are saying they're set to dig in on this fight and win back some of this from the owners.
They don't have anything else they can do aside from Love though. They'll be over the cap whether he re-signs or not, meaning we can't just take the money we would have paid him and go sign Lamarcus Aldridge or something. If he flat out just walks away we get nothing in return for him. Better hope he re-signs. We could do a sign and trade to try and get an asset back for him, but you're not getting anything near equal value. I don't think they can do better than Love. The best type of player to play alongside Ky and Bron is a stretch 4, to clear big defenders out of the lane and allow Ky and Bron to work. Love is the best stretch 4 in the NBA. Even if his numbers are down because he's the 3rd fiddle out there, 80% of his value out there is to spread the court. We were able to limp to the Finals without him and Ky, but this team was a juggernaut when at full strength after the mid-January trades. People tend to think that they made it to the Finals because they were just as good without Love...they were not. The team was an absolute force when at full strength. Like 14-1 against the West from mid-January on kind of force (and the one loss was on the road at Houston, without Ky, and they still only lost in OT by 2).
Yeah, I've been kind of worried about the luxury tax fine implications of really doing much of anything to build the roster. More and more of a growing feeling that they'll just waive Haywood for some relief...their team at full strength is good enough to win the title if everyone just returns. If they bring someone back for Haywood it's going to cost them up to $36M or so in luxury tax fines. But comments from David Griffin recently have me feeling a bit better about it. Was talking about how they fully intend on moving the Haywood contract for something of value. They said they're willing to find anyway necessary to improve the talent of the team.
I think he'll be good, but good as a contributor. I think he's a smart player who works the pick-n-roll well. That'll carry him a long way in the NBA. But definitely a career backup type of guy. Thought he'd be a steal for the Cavs that late in the draft...but I'm not upset with what they decided to do.
They'd be good for the next 5-7 years with Love and Ky as well. I was frustrated about having to trade Wiggins as well, but when it came down to it, it was tough to pass on a guy like Love who's the perfect compliment next to Bron and Ky. I fully expect Love to come back at least for next season, his smartest course of action would be to sign a 1 year deal and then have a 2nd year player option, that way he can decide when he wants to jump back into free agency to try and get a max deal when the salary cap skyrockets over the next two offseasons.
The Tyus Jones pick got me excited, but unfortunately the writing looked on the wall that they'd probably wind up drafting a draft-n-stash Euro guy, because they don't have a cap hold on your roster. When you consider how much each roster on the team costs (salary + 3x that figure in fines), a rookie that may or may not have an impact right away but wind up costing you $7M, it's not too bad of a business decision.
Sporadic from the outside would be putting it kindly. He's a terrible spot up 3-pt shooter (I think he shot 28% from 3 last year...and most of his shots are always off the dirbble, not spot ups). If they don't bring back Love and go after Wade (which I don't think they can even make work unless Wade wants to sign for $3.5M, which he doesn't) now you've got a starting lineup of Kyrie, LeBron, Wade, TT and Timo. When Ky has the ball, there's not one spot up shooter out there, it'll mitigate his effectiveness and Wade will give you diminished returns because he can't spread the floor and spot up when Bron and Ky are trying to go to work. The only person anyone would be worried about not helping off of away from the ball would be Ky. They floor would be so clogged. It's not a good fit.
The luxury tax apron in 2017-18 is also projected to be in the vicinity of $130M. I understand that this would be a burden on Dan's wallet, but I don't think he has much choice but to go all in at the risk of losing James again. I understand that the Cavs have to protect themselves, but they're already pretty much neck deep in it right now. James is signing these 1 year deals as leverage to keep Dan's wallet open. Is playing chicken with James, trying to call his bluff and saying, we're not going to spend here and risking him becoming unhappy with or feeling somehow lied to or betrayed by Gilbert all worth it? Gilbert promised him he'd open his wallet to great lengths as part of his sales pitch to get him back to Cleveland. I'd consider looking at it as that luxury tax bill is just part of LeBron's salary...considering if there was no cap, someone with the money would probably go nuts and offer him the $40-50M+ a year that he's actually worth. The cashflow you're bringing in by having him on your team and having one of the best teams in the world is going to be offsetting a lot of that pain as well. They aren't signing big deals for marketing in Asia, Australia, etc if nobody cares who they are. Dan's trying to make his franchise a household brand all over the world.
It'd been interesting to see this year because you'd have Wade taking some of the burden off of LeBron. You're right in saying that we didn't have people that could create their own shot in the Finals this year...but we have two all-star caliber offensive players missing. And I'm absolutely positive we don't lose the finals with a healthy Irving and Love as well. This team was a marvel when they were at full strength after the trades. There's very few times when we have all 3 of LeBron, Ky and Love all off the floor. There's always at least 1 if not 2 of them out there to run the offense through. I just think for the price of a Dwyane Wade we could get two quality role players that can help make this team deeper, more flexible and more versatile. Otherwise you're paying premium price for a watered down version of Dwyane Wade who, in playing a ball handling facilitator type of game, probably isn't as good at that as some guy who's played that role his whole career and costs half the money.
I guess that would be the prevention measure then. Becomes a hard cap after a S&T. Otherwise, we will be under the apron once everyone opts out of their contracts...we just wouldn't be able to get everyone back. Didn't know that about the S&T rules.
True. There's a lot of traction right now it would seem to the players being stronger this time and demanding a bigger piece of the pie, ie - higher salary cap/salaries. It'll also be interesting to see what a max contract becomes worth and what the market on those would become.
That's kind of the situation we got ourselves into the last time with Bron. The Larry Hughes contract killed us. When we got up to the cap we had no flexibility and no ability to sign anybody. But at the time, the 3 best FAs that we could've thrown major money at were Hughes, Ray Allen and Mike Redd. Allen and Redd both opted for the more money their teams could pay them and we got Larry Hughes at less than a max. It's terrible in hindsight, but at the time he had just had as good of a season as Redd and Allen, was one of the league leaders in steals and we were getting him for cheaper. And then he shows up and blows and we're handicapped because of it. That's what's maddening about all of those lazy "shoulda surrounded him with talent arguments" the first time he left. I mean, they couldn't just go sign anyone and there wasn't really much to sign. It wound up turning into a series of successive trades that slowly built the team around LeBron but took on a lot of bad contracts in the process. When he left we were stuck with no flexibility and a bunch of crap that was left over. At least we're much better positioned right now than we were then.
The NBA prevents us from selling off first rounders for players, but aren't we allowed to trade the player after we draft them or after we draft and sign them (I remember with Wiggins we had to sign him then wait a month before we were allowed to trade him)? We're also going to be under the apron once players are able to sign elsewhere because everyone will be opting out of their contracts and Love, LeBron and (I believe) JR will be unrestricted and TT not signed yet. Does the NBA have some sort of rule/prevention against a team going, "hurry up make the trade happen while we're under the apron!"...I dunno.