His mamma name him Clay, I'mma call him Clay.
Cavs won't have the money to land another big fish due to salary cap constraints. The only thing they have to offer is Brendan Haywood's contract and it's not as valuable as it appeared to be when we acquired it because the cap is going to jump big time after next season, so it's not as valuable for teams trying to clear cap space. The rumors about Love, Blatt, Kyrie, etc etc have gotten so ridiculous this year it's not even worth paying attention to. This is the same thing that happened to the Heatles. I'm not sure if he'll come back or not, but he'd be stupid not to for at least just next season. It sucked that we traded Wiggins, but if Love wants to maximize his money, he'll exercise his option for next season, come back and try to win a title and demand a max deal from the Cavs (who can offer him more than anyone else, per having his Bird Rights, and you're nuts if you don't think Gilbert will spend whatever, especially with the cap set to jump) or walk.
They brought Marion in briefly last night and he subsequently got torched and blown by on defense. Looked like he was too stiff to even bend his knees anymore. Unfortunately (and especially after his midseason injury) he's taken a steep tumble down the wrong side of the hill. You're not getting anything out of Marion anymore.
The Cavs would absolutely give him a max contract. Dan Gilbert's willing to spend as much money as is necessary and if you can find me a better stretch 4 than Kevin Love in the NBA (which is the perfect compliment to Ky and Bron's game) please, I'm all ears. Just because they're rolling along without Love doesn't mean they wouldn't be doing better with him there. You can't just judge him on his production this year vs last year...he's the 3rd option on the team, but just being out on the floor spreads things out for Ky and Bron and is invaluable in itself. This year was an adjustment, but give them a year and an offseason to work through things.
Love's going to be offered max deals from teams that have the ability to offer it regardless of your opinion of him as a player. Love would be stupid to a max deal with anyone this offseason. If he was smart, the most money he could make in one year is by exercising his player option with the Cavs, letting the experiment play out another year (when this team was finally rolling in February they were an unstoppable force) and then looking for a max deal after that. The salary cap leaps going into the 2016-17 season and even further in 2017-18. The salary cap is projecting to be leaping to damn near double what it is today after the next couple years. Meaning a player signing a contract in this offseason will make significantly less money than if they just hold off for a year.
Why wouldn't they just complete the effect and just make it #0?
I was actually saying the same thing, "GET IT TO JR!" He'd hit his last 4 jumpers including 3 contested 3s in a row. When JR is hitting like that you have to ride that wave as long as you can...cause once he starts missing, you're going to get 2 for 14 JR back. Although, I will say, I've been impressed with JR and his willingness to scale back his shooting (and shooting terrible shots) from what he was putting up in NYC. Never thought I'd see that. I don't have a big issue with Bron taking the ball out either. He's supposedly your best passer, and you've got two better perimeter shooters in JR and Kyrie to look to in a catch and shoot situation. What I like about Blatt is that he saw that fire in Bron's eyes and said, nevermind. Just do what this man says, get him the ball and get out of his way.
Or in Blatt's case he gets zero credit when things go well, the blame when things don't...and then even a lot of times the blame even when things do go well. Blatt's been a hell of a coach everywhere he's been. I'm sure the NBA is an adjustment, but he also has the mental capacity to take on all the criticism and work with prima donna personalities. I think he merely has to be a manager of the team and I think he's a smart enough guy to be able to do so and find the right balance of working with their egos but pushing them hard at the same time. Coaching LeBron James is a luxury a lot of coaches would like to have...but it probably leads to more headaches for a coach new to the NBA than he would've had if LBJ'd stayed in Miami.
The Thibs situation just sucks on all sides. I think he's tactically one of the better coaches in the NBA. I think Chicago just feels like they've reached their ceiling with him and aren't going anywhere at this point. There's also a lot of theory out there about his treatment of players, that he plays them hard, practices them hard and rides them hard and this is why you see his team looking like a bunch of hobbled old timers once they get to the playoffs. Every year his team is decimated by injuries and has a couple players out in the playoffs and another few that are playing through lingering injuries. I think there may be some truth to that. A lot of it's bad luck with Rose...but it's too much of a coincidence that this happens every year to entirely dismiss.
ZLATAN! I can never get enough Zlatan.
Meh, he's no Frankie Hejduk.
I'll admit I was wrong on that. I'll also say I was pretty shocked and none too thrilled to see Mike Miller out there starting and playing much. He wound up playing more minutes (16) than JJ and Marion combined (12). I can't say I agree with it...he pretty much just hobbles up and down the floor, offers little rebounding and literally nothing on defense. Teams just let him shoot when he wants, he gets a ton of open looks and his one redeeming quality is supposed to be that he can hit 3s...which he's done at a staggering 32% clip this year. At least JJ and Marion can get up and down the floor. If we're going to have a garbage 3-pt shooter out there, might as well put Marion out there...at least he can play D and do so against either a 3 or a 4.
Like the Short North?
Bahaha, I love it. +1
We have a scholarship open next year with D'Angelo moving on, don't we? We've got 5 coming in in the 2015 class, 3 remaining from the 2014 class, 2 from the 2013 class, 1 transfer who sat out last year but can play in 2015...that's 11 scholarship players by my count. I also don't include Lorbach as a scholarship player, because he's a walkon. They'll let him hold a schollie as long as they've got one available and not being used, but it's not really his.
Lyle and Giddens aren't really 1 and done caliber players from my understanding. Then again, I didn't expect D'Angelo to be considered a top 5 draft prospect after his freshman year either.
I was hoping Marion would've been better and more serviceable this year but he looks like a shadow of himself from last year in Dallas. Hopefully we won't have to talk about depending on guys like JJ or Mike Miller come this time next year. I think one of their biggest needs is finding a legit backup 3/4 combo forward in the offseason. Someone who can play the 4 in small ball but be LeBron's primary backup at the 3. I'm hoping they can pull something off using the Haywood contract.
It's not so much that it's my point of view, it's just that's been the trend for their rotation for the past month or two. I don't like JJ much as a player, myself, it's just the most successful way they've tried to simulate Love's floor spacing. When they've sat down Love at times toward the end of the season JJ was the one who replaced him in the starting lineup and saw his minutes increase. Marion was getting a lot of PT at the beginning of the season and Mike Miller was as well, but ever since the midseason trades and bringing in Shump and JR (and mostly when Marion got hurt) those two don't even crack the rotation anymore.
It's going to be James Jones. Marion and Miller have been out of the rotation altogether and haven't played a single meaningful minute for 3 months now. One of the two of them may get a few minutes a game flipped their way, but mostly because we're just down one more body in the regular rotation. To be honest save for like one game or so apiece, Marion and Miller have been dreadful this year in meaningful minutes.
I hate to say it, but it's going to fall on James Jones. He's the guy they lean on whenever Love's not playing and a lot of times comes in for him when he's subbed out. Simply because they use him to simulate the floor spacing they get with Love by having another shooter out there (who happens to be 6'8") and because they don't like having Tristan and Mozgov on the floor at the same time for long stretches for the same floor spacing reasons. Shump's gonna be big in JR's absence.
In a perfect world, Bron would go back to playing the 4 like he did so ridiculously efficiently in Miami. For a couple years when he was willing to work out of the post/low post instead of almost exclusively from the wing/perimeter, I've never seen someone so ruthlessly efficient than he was during those years. He won't do it though, it's part of the reason he came to Cleveland, he doesn't want to have to bang inside anymore. He wants to go back to being the hero-ball/playmaker on the perimeter. Which, fine...but he's gonna have to tighten up his game and not have games where he has 5-6-7 bad turnovers and he's going to have to be nothing short of spectacular for this team to have a shot. Plus he's going to have to actually play defense, something he hasn't even tried to do since 2012-13.
I was mad that we traded Wiggins as well (Bennett blows, who cares) but mostly just because I thought we could've waited Minney out and traded for Love without having to give up Wiggins. Their season has once again been pure garbage and Love made no bones about the fact that he was going to walk at the end of the season. If not sooner or at the trade deadline, they would've had to quit playing chicken with him and bite the bullet and take a less than desirable trade including Bennett, Waiters, draft pick considerations and whatever other players the Cavs inevitably would've acquired just to flip to Minney in the trade. That said, I was also realistic enough to say, if we have to trade Wiggins to get a player like Love so be it. His stats may be down from last year, but he's still one of the most effective PFs in the game right now, a large part due to the floor spacing he provides slashers like Kyrie and LeBron just by being anywhere on the floor. The body of an Ehtiopian? He's pretty much the size of an average PF in the NBA. He's 240+ lbs. Lifting weights doesn't have much to do with reaching your body one way and having another 240 lb player yanking your arm down and away in the opposite direction with both arms and the strength of his body.
And you're high if you think Minney's future looks brighter. Wiggins looks like he will probably be a stud in this league, but the Cavs have 3 bonafide proven studs already. One of them is currently in their prime, one is just now entering the front end of his prime at 26 and Kyrie is one of the best PGs in the game and is 23(!!!).
Maybe I didn't get the memo...but are we calling Jeff Ross a celebrity now?
I hear ya, but it's not just that simple. There are other factors that play into it. If it was that simple, we'd have our pick at any coach in America any time we want because they'd up and leave their current job for the more prestigious one. Who was there to immediately pounce on the job once Tressel was fired/stepped down? Just because a school is more prestigious, it doesn't mean it's a better situation or fit. Or maybe a guy wants to finish what he started somewhere. ttun is a historically more prestigious and more rich school than LSU and Les Myles is an alum...he had to turn it down years back because of the bad timing of it all...his team was playing for a championship while ttun was looking.
Unless Herman developed some sort of great sentimental bond to the school in his few years here, he'll be offered by other destination jobs if he's good enough. He was raised out on the west coast and has spent his all of his grassroots coaching time in Texas. What if a USC comes knocking? What if he has unprecedented success at UH and in 5 years Nick Saban decides to retire/leave and Alabama comes calling. LSU? Texas? Florida? Florida State? Georgia? The point is there's a lot of destination schools out there. If one of them were to get to him before us, it's unlikely that a guy takes on a program only to abandon it 1-2 years in. I'm not saying that's not possible, look no further than Lane Kiffin...but he's also a noted scumbag for one, and for another...look how well his career path has worked out for him. And as far as money goes, there's other schools willing to spend just as much if not more than we are to attract a coach because they're more desperate because they aren't quite as prestigious as us. A&M has made themselves a destination school by throwing boatloads of money into their program at the right time when UT is down.
I had similar experiences at Penn State. I've traveled there twice and we spent the whole day tailgating for a night game both times. We learned what to avoid the 2nd time around, but the first time around my small group and I literally got in like 6 or 7 physical altercations throughout the day. A police officer had to pull me out of a group of PSU fans that surrounded me and were shoving me around during one. Was trying to go get to our band performing in the tailgate lot and I got stopped and held by two PSU fans and got beer dumped on my head in one instance. Also got sucker punched from behind and knocked out cold for a few seconds in another instance. People would come talk shit to us and we'd sling it right back to them and they couldn't handle it. It was always, how dare you talk any trash about mighty, "do no wrong" Penn State and Joe-Pa. It would always turn into one of two things at that point...they'd get all self conscious and go on telling stories (completely unsolicited) about their great 5 "mythical national titles"...or they'd try to physically engage you. I'm honestly not sure which was worse. At one point a 70 year old man tried to fight my 21 year old friend because he walked up and said "your fans are the worst!" and my friend replied "no your fans are the worst." He like gasped, gritted his teeth and came at my friend and I seriously had to hold a 70 year old man back and ask him what the hell he's thinking.
During the second trip, we stayed exclusively on the periphery of the tailgate area and stayed exclusively around other OSU fans. If someone came to talk trash and challenge us we'd just ignore and walk away. I guess maybe that's the difference between being a sophomore and a senior, lol.
Herman would be a natural choice...I'd be willing to bet he'll be scooped up by a major program by the time Urbz is walking out the door though.
Well, yeah. I assume it's a moot point like anyone else. But I also assume this is something Thad has discussed with Lorbach.
I assume Thad & co. probably had this talk with Lorbach already. The one that says look, you're a walk-on for our program. If we come into a situation where we have a scholarship freed up and no one to occupy it, we'll give it to you...but when we need the schollie, we need the schollie. You can get some financial assistance you wouldn't have had otherwise in the meantime cause it'll go to waste otherwise.
Such is the life of a walk-on. He knew what he was signing up for and really he should consider himself fortunate that he was able to get even a temporary scholarship at all...most walk-ons don't.