No problem, I gave you an up vote on both to balance it out.
TL:DR version - Me upvote you 2x
No problem, I gave you an up vote on both to balance it out.
TL:DR version - Me upvote you 2x
NorCal, thanks for the comment, but I do believe my statement holds. Here is the reason why. Currently, Michigan has not gotten a commitment or signed a recruit that had a prior connection to the two high school coaches they hired. (The only parent hired was of a transfer from Stanford). As for the two high school coaches, one of them is well documented. He is Chris Partridge, formerly of Paramus Catholic fame / infamy. Fame because of his connection to Rashan Gary, who is a single recruit and has not committed, and infamy, because Partridge was so hated by his peers in New Jersey, that Rutgers rescinded their job offer to him because they feared hiring him would hurt their recruiting of their own state. Michigan hired him after Rutgers backed out of hiring him. The other high school coach that was hired came out of Ohio (his name escapes me), and so far, none of Michigan's 21 commits hail from the state of Ohio, so obviously none of the current commits have a connection to him. These are the reasons why I say one can't equate the current recruiting success of Harbaugh to two coaches prior links. Now, if Michigan lands Gary, I will concede that having Partridge probably helped, but Since Gary hasn't committed, I don't think that can be said. Also, if a kid commits from Ohio, then if the former Ohio coach was previously connected, then having him probably helped with that recruit.
Thanks for the reply. Ok, I see now. He more or less is saying that he has hired people that can relate better with high school level players due to their previous backgrounds. Sorry for misinterpreting the statement. I appreciate you taking the time to clear it up. Thanks for the great work Birm and I hope you enjoy the 4th with your friends and family this weekend!
Your "evidence" is essentially gossip. You have a guy quoting "sources" from the same people that said there was no way that Harbaugh was going to take the Michigan job. Instead, there were a large number of outlets quoting players after Harbaugh was let go supporting him. Link here or here as an example. If you want more quotes of players going on the record, you can easily find it by googling it or you can look at the film of the locker room after his last game there and see it. I just don't see anything that supports the gossip that was said, the gossip that probably was pushed out by the front office of the 49ers to try to justify their move. This pure and simple was a decision made by the front office and not because the players were sick of him.
The coach went on to acknowledge that perhaps some of Michigan's recruiting success could be tied to the hiring of high school coaches and parents
Ok, I'm going to call it. This coach obviously is in an Ohio school, and probably a traditional tOSU pipeline. I'm going to guess Ginn. I say this, because so far, no Michigan commits have been previously tied to the two high school coaches and parent that Harbaugh brought in, so I don't see a coach without any previous rooting interest making that statement. I believe Ginn is the only current coach at a tOSU pipeline that has recently sent kids to Michigan, so I believe it is him.
Is it me or does anyone else feel this write up is selling Weber short? In my opinion, a running back that is a home run threat is a nice to have, but not necessary. I think field awareness/vision is more important for a back, and Weber has this in spades. Throw in his tough running and hard work ethic and he is likely to produce a minimum of 4 yds/carry, but probably should be closer to 5 in tOSU's offense.
even with many of the players.
This appears to be a commonly repeated false statement. A number of players actually came out with supportive statements for Harbaugh, even after he was already gone. Alex Boone is the only player that had any negative comments, and was it because he felt that way or was he attempting to be a loyal Buckeye alum discrediting Michigan's new coach? Even another player came to Harbaugh's defense after Boone's comments. If only 1 player out of 65 had something bad to say, I think you are doing pretty well.
All right, I'll let this one slide. You've wiggled your way back into my good graces with that apology, even if you have mistaken me for M Man. Once again, if anything should happen to me, such as a banishment from Ramzy, or the less feared option of death, Maize and Blue are yours (my cats).
This was my first thought as well.
CC, I agree with you. I think the QB's passing ability in the offense is more important than his running ability. What I mean by this is the offense will work best with an accurate passing QB that is a respectable runner, but not necessarily a home run threat himself. If the defense doesn't perceive all three being equal, they will try to scheme to take away two of them while challenging the offense to beat them using the perceived weakness. For Braxton, that typically meant teams took a risk with the passing game. Nothing against Miller, but in my opinion, JT and Cardale create a tougher balance of the three options to defend.
Now wait a minute DJ, I've been saying for a while now that 11W has more Michigan content than Mgoblog, but that never warranted a mention. Now that Mr. Fancypants Brian from Mgoblog is beating that drum, he gets all the credit. I’m hurt. You hurt me real deep, and to think, I was going to leave my two cats to you in my will.
And knowing is half the battle.
Devin Gardner graduating with a major of "undecided" is still the strangest.
The reason it was so strange is because it was actually a typo by a reporter. Gardner graduated with a bachelor's degree in Afro-American and African studies and also ended up with a master's in Social Work. Link
Was Rahsma really Rashan's mom or someone trolling a thread? Considering the individual created the account two months ago and didn't feel the need to comment until now either lends credence to it being his mom or it points to a very patient troll with some great foresight waiting for this very moment to strike.
I really don't think the answer to that question matters though. We will never truly know, and it is probably best to just take them at their word. Probably the best policy when commenting on a forum like this would be to treat the other users like the conversation is face to face, and if/when commenting about someone, it is best to proceed like you are saying the comments with the person in the room with you.
she invited some of it.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with this sentiment. To me, it feels too much like blaming the victim. I don't really think any of us have a right to judge a recruit or their parent's based on their college decision or how they go about making it. I really feel bad for them that they have to make such an important life decision under a microscope.
In her defense, she wasn't so much discussing her son's recruitment as much as she was defending herself. She only addressed a comment that accused her of looking for a handout and she also addressed the comment that she would tell him what school to go to and then it appears she left the discussion. I agree that she shouldn't feel the need to defend herself on the internet, because it doesn't really matter what any of us have to say, but then again, I've never been judged by a large number of fan bases that have never met me. If it really was her and she felt the need to vent, then I hope it made her feel better.
I know you aren't defending him, I'm just recognizing your choice to call it out for what it was instead of just letting it go. The thing is, Harbaugh creates enough entertainment on his own, there is no need to make fake things up.
+1 for calling out the fake tweet.
If by some crazy chance Mr. Gary ends up somewhere in the SEC instead of UM, I want MMAN to come back on here and defend Gary's Mother's intentions like he is now.
I'm not MMan, but if Gary goes to the SEC, I will gladly come on here and defend his mother's intentions if this forum decides it wants to attack her for his choice of college. I'm not one for making disparaging comments about recruits and their parents. If you don't believe me, feel free to look at my track record.
I understand your sentiments, but in my opinion none of us are in a position to assume that her stance isn't genuine for her own son. It used to be that people were taught to assume the best in someone until proven otherwise. I'm just not sure when in our society that sentiment has changed.
Anyway, I found this old article with Rashon and his mother that appears to open a window into the dynamic of their relationship. I'll provide this link here for the benefit of the forum. If anyone sees a mother in that article that isn't interested in her son's best interests, I would love to hear the reasons why. Please feel free to respond here.
I'm not sure why anyone would have anything negative to say about a parent that is active and engaged in what their kid has going on. Away from the recruiting world, think about all the kids that have gone down the wrong path because nobody gave a shit about what they had going on. Statistically, Kids are better off and more likely to be successful when their parents are active and care. It would be a cold day in hell before I let my kids go through the recruiting process by themselves, and I know my opinion would be important to them, because we have a great relationship and they respect what I have to say, just like I would respect that it is their decision. Because of that dynamic, I would be surprised if my kid's choice didn't line up with my input, mostly because my sole interest in my selection is what I think is best for them. I don't know what Rashon's mom might have against tOSU, but all I know is that her sole interest is going to be what is best for him. At the end of the day, if that ends up being tOSU, I'm sure she will change her mind and be supportive of that choice. I commend her for taking an active role in her son's life. The world could use more parents like that.
This is a bad look.
I think part of his question is, if Notre Dame is willing to work with him at this time to still become eligible, why didn't Ohio State stick by his commitment and offer him the same opportunity? To some, the fact that tOSU wasn't willing to work with him anymore while another institution is, can be perceived as a convenient excuse to "cut" a guy to get down to 85. I'm not saying that is what happened, just trying to help clarify a perception that could be made by the situation. This perception can always be made when one institution is willing to work with an individual more than another, such as with medical hardships and academics, which most expect to be well defined.
Sorry if I offended you. All I was trying to do was talk about the generalities of negative recruiting and how it works, which really has nothing to do with either of our college allegiances. I will say though, I'm not sorry about your response, because I really feel it validates my point concerning perception being greater than the truth and how that can play out in negative recruiting. You see, your comments have now compared ways a school could be perceived as having mislead kids into signed binding agreements and "cutting" two of them to a class with multiple decommits, which means the kids themselves chose not to honor their commitments for one reason or another. In one case it was the recruits choice and in the other it was the schools. In negative recruiting, it doesn't matter what the truth is, so I'm not going to defend one over the other, what matters is that you can put them on an even plain as equally bad without having to put any context to them, just like you did with your statement. That can have power over a recruit, especially if you can use it to sway their perception of a coaching staff. As even Stan Drayton noted in the recruitment of Weber, recruiting is all about relationships. So this means that negative recruiting will be used as a tool by a number of staffs as a way to get these kids to question those relationships they have with other coaches. So I don't have any issue with people having some concerns over the recent "bad looks" of this recruiting cycle, just like I don't take issue with the Michigan fans being leary about what the past decommits could mean for Harbaugh's future recruiting.
I would disagree with the apples to oranges statement. They all are recruiting related, and when it comes to other programs negative recruiting, it won't be hard for them to connect the dots to present a negative picture against Ohio State sticking with and/or being honest with recruits. I'm not saying anything wrong was actually done, just that all three can be used to lend credance to the negative message. Really though, as long as the victories keep coming, I it will probably Be a wash. Where it would pick up steam is if there is a bump in the road in the victory column. This is just my two cents as an opposing fan. Remember, a majority of time perception is stronger than the truth.