Birm, thanks for everything you've done. You worked diligently with class. I respect the way you handled your business and appreciate it. Sad to see you go, but excited for you and wish you luck.
My guess is both, but my understanding is Sitkowski is #1 on Michigan's board. Harbaugh won't shy away from a good athlete though. Example being Gentry. Brought him in as a QB but now he has been moved to TE. DTR would have the possibility to change positions too.
Birm, everything I've read about Artur, Michigan and non Michigan sites included, has Michigan leading for him. This is the first write-up I've seen that suggests tOSU would be close enough to talk commitment. I'm not saying it isn't possible but just wondering if there is something you know here or just hyping a visit?
I'm not saying anyone cares either way. That is not the point. What I am saying is that the only way a coach is allowed to have face to face contact with a recruit right now is if they are working a camp. Urban definitively was not working the camp by all accounts. What he did was a bump rule violation according to the NCAA bylaws. Even if it gets ruled that, it really isn't egregious anyway. Nothing would happen over it.
Here is a more interesting question, would Urban have showed up if Harbaugh was working the camp? My opinion is no because Urban has been working hard to avoid talking about Harbaugh with the media. What is your opinion?
It's amazing to me how far up your own asshole you Michigan fans have your heads.
First off, WOW. I could only wish to be that talented. Trust me, I'm not that athletic.
Secondly, I'm not saying there isn't any recruiting benefit, but come on. You have to at least work the camp as per the rules. By all accounts the Michigan coaches are out there doing that, busting their asses. Here, Urban isn't even trying to pretend what he is doing is anything other than recruiting. In my opinion this is probably really a bump rule violation. Which if it is, there is no teeth behind that rule anyway, so it is worth rolling the dice. I don't even have a problem with it, but won't be surprised if the SEC starts talking about this type of thing when they go on their crusade again next year.
This is what I mean when I say it would be hard to enforce. See below with what the media reported.
Around the halfway mark of camp, Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer showed up to the fields. He greeted Carman and departed. - link
Does that really look like that visit is in the spirit of the satellite camp rule?
Another point, he there is no mention of him interacting with any of the camp staff either, only mention of him approaching the one camper.
Is it really defendable if one said he worked the camp? In my opinion it is pretty blatantly recruiting. Like I said, it is a good move with a great reward to risk ratio, but I don't think anyone could say he worked that camp and believe it. Not when he only talked to one recruit that happened to be the highest rated prospect there.
+1 for you Woodshed. Funny reply.
Urban's visit is definitely working the grey area of these camps. The only way a coach gets to visit a recruit right now is by working at these camps. According to all the reports I've read about Urban's visit, he didn't work the camp. He showed up, talked to a recruit or two and then just left. The question is, could it be considered a recruiting violation according to the NCAA?
My personal opinion is that it was a smart move. Got the all important face time with Carman, and I would say the risk of it ending up being branded as a violation is zero to none, even if by the letter of the law, it may be. It is too hard to police and at worst would be a slap on the wrist. Props to Urban for the move.
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No enemies here. I'm ok with the DVs, usually somebody gets my playful sarcasm. Thanks for the counter.
Congrats on landing Martell tonight. Do you think Clark sticks now or moves on? I'm thinking he will stick, but it is a small class this year, so is there enough room for 2 QBs?
Tough crowd today.
I hadn't heard that. I know they hired Flanagan's HS coach who is a former NFL player as well as Jabrill Peppers former HS coach. ;)
Only if an offer can be proven. Not sure why all these dads and hs coaches are hanging around the program. Seems like they have nothing better to do I guess. Haha.
Only one mom has been hire, and Harbaugh already knew her from his time at Stanford. She was given a job in the department and is responsible for player development (academics). She is a former principal and educator. So far she has gotten rave reviews from recruits' parents, with Michael Jordan's parents having been some of the more vocal until his commitment to tOSU. Here is a link to the article.
Sorry, I didn't see the that Lewis had done it too. Wish he hadn't done it either.
That's true with Zeke, he was in that limbo phase between the NFL and college. It still is an example of a player going after a coach though, just not any real way to police it, but Urban could still try to use his influence through.
I don't agree with the Instagram being sent out by O'korn, and wish he hadn't done it, but wasn't Zeke recently celebrated here for going after Harbaugh? So does this mean that you didn't like what Zeke did too?
I absolutely agree with you here. I know, shocker, right? In my opinion, so far every coach that has spoken out against them has had an ulterior motive to taking that stance. Here, getting rid of satellite camps would support Ash's agenda to build Rutgers up. He is banking on "Fencing the Garden", so reducing the impact or the banning of satellite camps would help that agenda.
Honestly, can anybody find a college coach or administrator that has come out against satellite camps that genuinely had an altruistic motive for the prospective student-athletes? I don't think it can be done.
Am I the only one that thinks Ash's comments are self-serving? Of course he is against satellite camps, his whole recruiting strategy to success is locking down the state of New Jersey's prospects. He has no interest in all these other college coaches coming in and raiding his turf. Part of his "Fence the Garden" campaign is to lock the satellite camps out. I'm sorry, my opinion is he is essentially acting as a de facto SEC coach here, albeit his pitch is better polished.
2 things that I would say go against that blueprint. 1. Durkin went with a 3-3-5 formation against tOSU due to depleted DL depth due to injuries. They hadn't run it all year against anyone else and not really a great idea going against a spread to run team. 2. New defensive coordinator, whole different scheme. You have to throw out last years film really and look at BC. Granted, by the time tOSU faces Michigan, they will have a whole season worth of film to dissect for weakness.
Michigan's defense was missing 3 of their 4 starting defensive lineman for last years game. Especially their two best at clogging the middle. They are back this year and hopefully will be healthy for The Game. They probably would have made some difference but I believe the ultimate outcome would have been the same.
Michigan's numbers were greatly impacted by a loss in defensive line depth last year. By mid way through the year last year 3 of Michigans 4 starting DL were lost for the season (Mone, Glasgow, and Charlton). That includes two guys you plug in the middle to keep your LB's clean. Glasgow specifically was a big loss do to his ability to command double teams. Michigan would have probably fared better without the injuries, but a tempo approach may have still hurt them since it reduces a defenses ability to rotate players to keep them fresh.
Yeah, I'm going to be honest. The Mron blueprint definitely works, but it takes too much effort and I'm lazy. What did it take him, over 40 posts to get banned? That means it would take me around 300. That is just too much vitriol and work to handle. There has to be a better way. My dad always told me to work smarter not harder.
I actually do think I have figured things out though. 11W pretends to be all open and friendly to rival fans, but is it really? I don't think so. See, to most rival fans, downvotes feel like upvotes, so by capping the negative amount you can get and then cutting people off once they get to a certain level, that just ain't right. The system is rigged for the buckeye fan. Imagine, these new rival fans come in here racking up their DVs feeling all good about themselves and think they are contributing and then Wham! The cap hits, that train is moving and then there is no stopping. All aboard, ban city is the next stop. I feel bad for them, they never had a shot. Somebody really needs to take a look at this from a different perspective and find a more intuitive way so all can understand.
Yeah, I just caught up with the meltdown. So I guess he won't be back unless it is in another form. I'm starting to wonder when I get my turn. I've been on here around 4 years and all these Michigan short timers don't have the courtesy to let me go first. When is my turn dammit.
Harbaugh was not posing for pictures with "fans", he was posing with potential recruits.
In all fairness to Harbaugh, according to all news outlets, he was posing for pictures with everyone that wanted one. He was even posing with fans that just came to watch. In my opinion, if you are posing with everyone, that should be fine, but if it was only a select few (recruits), then that should be an issue.
You need to take mron under your wing and show him how it's done.
I don't get what you are saying. I don't see anything wrong with mron's delivery. ;)
Apparently there are more fans of the NCAA than we realized.