Great article! I think the read option and plays per game are the contributing factors. Now let's compare punts per game under Meyer vs Tressel...
Here it is. One of my favorite pieces done by ESPN on the Buckeyes.
...and the fourth best on a Buckeye roster (if he were so lucky).
Dude?! What is this from. Watch out or PETA may target you for posting. Haha!
I hope Urban beats Hairball into submission next year. 78-0 would be ideal (yep, went for two on the last touchdown).
He was Nick Bosa's primary recruiter at ND… we may have a chance to land Nick now!!
Dang! No wonder he left…Bears' RBs don't run over him like that!
What...he should have just hired his mom and high school coach in meaningless positions at UM!
Good point. I still think he knew, but you make a very good point.
If it is a "business," then our coaches should not preach "family" because current and future players believe them. It's shady and all Buckeye fans that don't think it is need to remove the scarlet and gray goggles, cause if Hairball did it we would definitely be calling it shady.
I guarantee the Cass Tech coaches and future players think it's shady. We may have just uprooted a flag.
Catch 5, you're right. My bad. Now I'm pissed though. I can no longer say a Bama fan has never taught me anything.
Bass - +1. I appreciate your sense of humor. Still laughing as I type this.
Tundra, come on man!
Stan is not going to burn that bridge with Urban. Urban knows well in advance when his coaches leave (or even interview). Do you not remember his comment about Fickell being interviewed as a DC? He basically stated, he better not have interviewed because I didn't hear a thing about it. He knew.
How dare you call a kid a [Mod Edit]. You're a [Mod Edit]! I hope they toss you in [Mod Edit]ing jail!
None right now. I just hope that's the case in August.
We are +3 after the medical schollys. That means if 3 don't transfer, we could be in trouble. I trust in Urban and assume he knows 3 kids already 100% committed to transfer. Urban has never even been accused of forcing a kid out, so I am not too concerned. However, aggressive roster management can have consequences.
Catch 5, you're right about that WSJ article. I cited that in a previous comment to you but after looking at it carefully, it's all allegation and no fact. My bad.
1. I agree completely. That was a bad approach.
2. I also agree. However, most of us were doing the same to him.
3. In 2011 we had a WR feel he was "forced out" due to oversigning. However, it was just an allegation (no proof) and was under the Tressel era. None of Meyer's players (even when he was in the SEC) were ever put into this situation. So, I agree with you as well.
4. Bama has never dropped schollys for healthy players as far as I know. I agree that some medical schollys were questionable and two kids felt they could still play, but all were injured. Again, allegations and no proof. This was my biggest argument. We assume Saban is a prick and Meyer is a saint. Don't get me wrong, I adore Meyer and can't stand Saban, but that doesn't mean I will slander Saban without knowing the facts (even if it is fun).
5. I agree.
6. This has nothing to do with the argument. Just because injuries hurt you one year doesn't mean a team can violate the rules next year. That's like saying a team didn't have a great QB one year so they paid a transfer QB's father $160k the following year...oh wait...maybe it is okay.
Bottomline. I agree the approach wasn't the best and the attack on the 11W staff was 110% wrong. However, the topic is 100% appropriate. With that being said, I feel much better about being 6+ knowing about the 3 medical schollys. I am sure the staff knows of at least 3 additional transfers before August.
DJ - great write up on the oversigning concern. Call me self righteous as well, but a kid feeling pressured to leave a team he committed to is wrong. JakeBuckeye brought it up yesterday in a forum and was almost crucified (don't really know why). Glad you addressed it and shed some light on the issue. I just hope one of those three considering a transfer is not Braxton!
Here is some light reading: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703384204575509901468451306. Since then, it seems like Saban has moved away from this tactic and went to the grayshirt tactic. Grayshirting is fine, but if a player commits to you and then days before signing day, you notify him he needs to take a grayshirt, that's wrong.
With that being said, neither is an NCAA violation. However, that doesn't make it right.
Fairfax, I don't think most people assume they are fake. However, if Urban was still coaching at Florida and this identical situation happened, this site would be full "fake injury" accusations. I think that's a point some are making. I personally don't think they are fake and that Urban is better than that (regardless of where he is coaching).
BassDropper - I completely agree! If Nick Saban announced three players were going on medical scholarships several hours after he signed a large class, this site would be going crazy. I think we (as ohio state fans) are looking at this through scarlet & gray goggles if we think otherwise.
However, there has only been one player (a WR, can't remember his name) that has ever publicly complained about being "pushed out" due to oversigning and it was under the Tressel era. There have been numerous players under Saban that have publicly complained and it is an evident issue. It will be interesting to see how we get our numbers from 91 to 85. I just hope every young man that donned the S&G is taken care of and not pressured to leave.
Back in October, he had a foot injury, but the staff wasn't specific on it.
This kid reminds me so much of JT during his recruitment. Humble, willing to work hard, unassuming... And a great dual threat. I am excited to see what he can do.