I would be like a hurt ex-girlfriend if Johnson left for Maryland. Imagine how that would affect our recruiting!
What if Stephen Collier goes pro?
I would say it's Tommy Schutt. He has played fairly well, but he is constantly overlooked because he is lined up with Bosa, Washington, Hubbard, and Lewis.
I think real wide receivers are a bit harder to recruit for this kind of offense. If you look at Urb's top offenses, he had a hard time really recruiting and producing top receiver talent. Most of his best true wide receivers were inherited from other coaches/offenses. I'm really intrigued with Mack as a split end. He has the size and really the speed to play right now it seems. I'm also hoping Stump can produce within the next few years. As long as we don't end up like Florida with Jeff Demps and Chris Rainey as some of our top receivers then we will be fine.
Well, he may be a quick guy but quickness isn't the same thing as speed. For example, Kendall Wright from Baylor ran a 4.6 something at the combine. He is possibly one of the quickest guys you will see. When I saw KJ's highlights, I saw a lot of linebackers and corners from the other side of the field gaining on him. I'm not saying he is 4.7 slow, but that's a huge change up from TG and Devin Smith and Curtis Samuel and some of the other wide receivers we have had.
I think we have the same number of big plays, relatively speaking, but the consistency of those smaller plays are lacking. Right now, we do have a high risk high reward offense. That's what you get with Cardale. But, essentially, the offensive output is the same. As "bad" as our offense may seem right now, I have seen steady improvements since week 2, even as the quality of our opponents have gotten better. I think another thing is as the Number 1 team in the nation, you elevate the play of your opponents. Every week, we play an opponent who is probably playing the best the will all season. It isn't because we're bad or anything like that, but the other teams have a different kind of motivation than we have.
Besides Thomas, we have KJ Hill, Jeff Greene, and Alex Stump as the only WR's on our roster that played. wide receiver in high school. Jalin, Braxton, and Torrance gibson were all qb's, Paris, Dontre, and Samuel were all running backs. We did have Corey Smith but he's gone now. I can't think of anyone else
That's why I think guys like KJ Hill, Corley, and Austin Mack have been soo important over the past few years. Mack is a great athelte but he also seems to have a lot of polish. When I look at the ofher two my thought were "man they are slow." But, you don't necessarily have to be a 4.5 guy to get open. Thomas is a perfect example of that. I think Thomas is a 4.6 guy but he is fast enough to separate and technical enough to get open.
I pray we don't even see Thomas sprain an ankle. Right now, he's our only receiving threat. He looks like the only receiver who is getting open in his initial route. All of the other guys are getting open when the play breaks down.
Well, Torrance Gibson would still be another unpolished athlete who converted to wide receiver. He is huge and fast and can possibly satisfy our need for a vertical threat but he may not be as great running some of those short to intermediate routes. Think Devin Smith his freshman and sophomore year
Jones is making some very good passes but he lacks touch. For a guy who isn't a polished receiver or someone who doesn't have Odell Beckham sized hands, it can be a little difficult hauling in some of those rockets thay he throws. I also think it puts more pressure on the qb and the o-line because unpolished receivers can't necessarily get open as often as one who is polished. I think that is why you see JT and Cardale throwing interceptions while trying to fit a ball in a tight window.
Thomas is a great receiver but right now he's our only receiver. A team's number 1 corner has to guard him. But last year, he was almost always matched up on the number 2 corner because of Devin Smith. I'd rather a #2 corner be matched up on him just because it would be an easy mismatch for us. Outside of who we have playing now, I wonder how things will look once Campbell comes back. He seemed to provide a great deep threat if could haul in the balls
Well, Wilson and Samuels are great athletes. Usually great athletes make great catches. But, a great wide receiver knows how to run a route, when to break a route when you see it may not be there, even something as small as high pointing the ball or running back to the ball and not waiting on it. I'm not saying Zach Smith hasn't been doing his job or that our players aren't doing it. Just the lack of players who are true wide receivers is kinda concerning.
We have a lot of young WR's but we also have a lot a lot of athletes playing WR. And yea, I definitely exaggerated about it being the biggest problem. I just think once the QB play improves, the oline improves (showed significant improvement this week), etc. that this is something that usually takes a year or two to really see results
I think it's less about having green wide receivers and more about having a bunch of athletes playing wide receiver. The issue is very complex. I really want to see what KJ Hill can do once he enters the game.
I'm trying my best Jack Kerouac impression.
I think it's hard to get the ball in "so and so"'s hand because we have so many great play makers. I agree that Samuel, Thomas, and Braxton all need more touches. But, besides Thomas, they all need to work on their route running or else their touches will be super predictable.
Well only problem is we don't have a team full of thugs and unruly characters. Half of Florida's team was arrested (hyperbole), but they were out of control. We have many problems, but I don't think we are too similar to that Florida team
The minute Urban chose to start Cardale over JT, our fanbase was polarized. It hasn't helped that Cardale hasn't put up spectacular numbers in these past few games. But, I think the problem is calling for the QB's head when the backup has been equally as inefficient. I would say that if it were the other way around.
Wow that was the slickest little pull of the jersey. He got away with that and the hold on Zeke's big run. I wondered how he ended up so open and now I know.
Wrong once again. The first drive JT came in against Northern Illinois we punted the ball. The next drive, which we got on their 44-yard line was a good drive. But the catch that we scored on was all Michael Thomas. Great ball placement by Barrett, but not many receivers in college football would have landed a foot in bounds. Not to mention that Zeke accounted for 15 of those 44 yards. Next drive was a turnover on down. Against Northern Illinois, JT was in for 10 drives. 2 of those drives were scoring drives. One drive was a field goal, the other we got on their 44-yard line. That's not efficiency. Your definition of looking "good" is skewed by what you want to see and not what is actually happening. Numbers don't lie my friend. Go back and watch the actual highlights of the game. Watch the replay of the game and you will see JT didn't look "good" at all.
Gave the O life? Are you serious? He came in and completed 53% of his passes in one game while averaging less than 5 yards per attempt. The next time he came in to give the O "life" was averaged 57% completion and still under 5 yards per attempt. Oh and another interception with that and quite a few passes that should have been picked off. He hasn't done anything to set himself apart from JT. And JT has done nothing to win the job back from Cardale. Please, again go back and look at the games and see how many passes Cardale completed with defenders literally hanging from him. How about some of those passes he rocketed it into a tight window when no one was "open."
A spark? He had one pass against VT and one rush that game. Given his pass was a touchdown, and we didn't need a "spark." He got clean up minutes and Mike Thomas ran a good route. Secondly, against Hawaii, he was 8 for 15 (53.3 percent) for 70 yards. That's less than 5 yards per attempt. Those aren't sparks. He also threw the ball 19 times against Northern Illinois with 11 completions for 97 yards. Again, under 5 yards per attempt. We are comparing shit to shit. This is a vast overexaggeration of his play this season which proves my point. He has played like crap also. Both QB's have played like crap. It isn't a QB problem. This season isn't last season and he hasn't shown he can handle the position.
Yes he did underthrow them. Last week he was off on the deep ball. Arm strength isn't just about being able to throw the ball 70 yards down field. It's about being able to throw the ball with high velocity. Generally high velocity correlates to a longer distance. Every week he has great throws that wouldn't have been completed by a weaker armed quarterback. You don't have to hit the 70 yarder every game to have a strong arm
Yes but JT has been playing a lot. A great QB can come off the bench and play well. Diamont did that yesterday. Guiton did it before. When JT came in, he was pressured and made the same bad reads. It also doesn't help that our play calling is predictable. The jet sweep to open the game last week? Come on now.