A question that no one is asking is what happens if Stephen Collier has a very very good spring? Will you bench Braxton, Jt, and Cardale?
I think you have to look at some of his incompletions as well. Of course not every deep ball he throws is a bad pass, much like not all of Cardale's short passes inaccurate.
Damn he is huge. Makes an easy target for Justin Hilliard and Jerome Baker
Lane Kiffin just went behind Nick Saban's back and offered him a scholarship to whatever college that is stupid enough to offer him another head coaching position
Curtis Grant was ranked highly because he was a physical specimen. But, it was his will and his effort that made him valuable to this team. Much like Etienne Sabino, Grant had to wait until his final year to prove his worth, but he definitely did. I'm happy both him and Fickell stuck around when fans were calling for both of their heads.
Even without VA Tech included, most of Barrett's deep balls were wobbly and left hanging up there. Now, that is good when we have Devin Smith he did his best Randy Moss impression. But, with Smith gone, it will be interesting to see how Cardale performs with the receivers who are more finesse than speed. If he develops this off season into a great short to intermediate passer, there is no way you can bench him. It isn't that we have forgotten about JT and his progression because I think Cardale's fame suffers from the recency effect, but I noticed the change in the way defenses played us when he was in the game. You can't crowd the box when you have a QB who can throw 60 yards without effort and a wide receiver who can burn or catch over any of your corners. That opened up the running game tremendously. Zeke's numbers went from 6 yards per carry to 9.16 in the games that Cardale started. He just opens up all elements of the offense.
"The devil himself"
I agree. I think that the offense clicked a lot better with Jones as QB. I posted yesterday that having Jones in the game forces teams to cover the entire field, including the deep ball. Teams like VT and Penn State didn't respect Barrett's deep ball so they stacked the box. With Barrett not having that strong of an arm and also having a smaller stature, he is limited in terms of what he can do. In turn, that limits the offense because teams will stack the box more, which puts more strains on our running game and offensive line. The offensive line was getting manhandled when Barrett was qb because teams exploited his weakness. Only problem with starting Jones is we no longer have that proven receiver to stretch the field with Devin Smith gone. That person may be Terry McLauren or Parris Campbell or James Clark, but none of them are proven. So, if we never develop that speedy receiver to draw defenses back, then we force Jones to have to develop a short passing game, which is a bit of his weakness.
Horray Me! I was that final downvote that sent him to oblivion for his irrational ass post.
I think the overlord thing is a bit exaggerated but he said that they are deeply rooted in Tressel's values, which is true in my opinion. I think it is shown by the number of players who still talk about him despite the fact that his actions costed us a bowl and could have done more damage if not for us hiring Meyer. Also, with the "sensitive" comment I made earlier was more referencing the people who decided to turn this into another Tress-Meyer debate. We have had 2 phenomonal coaches, let's just leave it at that.
I think it was more along the line of terrible wording. I think what the OP was trying to say is that despite everything that has happened to the program over the past few years, many players still have a lot of love and respect for Jim Tressel. I think people are too sensitive when bringing up Tressel's name.
Well, I would normally disagree with something so bold but, it is very hard to repeat national championships. You literally have a target on your head every game. Also, because you did win the national championship the previous year, everyone has unrealistic expectations for you every game. The media will expect us to go undefeated and probably dominate every game. But, if anything, I think the team will be left eating the spoils of this national championship and lose sight of the promised land. But, of course, that can all be changed by the coaches getting everyone together.
I understand him taking his visits, but in my opinion, that is something you do before you commit. It is much like getting married but still dating. The "paid trip to Miami" excuse isn't really valid because Fort Lauderdale is literally right down the road. Gibson has stated that he wants to come to college and play early. Not necessarily his first year, but he doesn't want to come and wait 3 years to play. With all of the bs these coaches are putting in his ear, it is really hard for anyone to believe that he would be wasting time if there wasn't any interest.
Of course you guys find it convenient to turn this into a complete Tressel versus Meyer battle. First off, shame on anyone who tried to make that an argument. The OP never said that this coach is better than the other or that he prefers one over the other. Only thing he said is that Tress had a huge impact, which is true... The players love and respect him to a great amount. Tress is the only coach I know in college football that is loved by every player he coached (exaggerated of course), even the ones he kicked off the team. This isn't a relationship, you can still love and respect one without disrespecting the other. Who cares which players were recruited by Meyer and which ones were recruited by Tress because at the end of the day, football is a team effort and this championship wouldn't have been so great if not for players recruited by both coaches or everything the program has been through since 2002.
Didn't Auburn already steal one of our safety recruits this year? Tell them to fuck off already
I think Dodson's gone with a medical waiver
I think that is the right prediction, but I don't think it's the best. When you look at the three quarterbacks, each of them bring a special element to the table in terms of providing a productive and efficient offense. Each has a strength and each has a weakness. Each makes the offense click in a different way. JT Barrett may very well start the season as the starting QB. Though Barrett is a great passer, manages the system well, and is a powerful runner, he lacks both size and arm strength. Ordinarily, that wouldn't be a problem, but then you look at what teams like VT and Penn State did against us bc they didn't respect our deep passing game with Barrett. Actually, if you look back to the 2006 national championship game, you will see what happens when you have a great quarterback with a decent arm.
Cardale is my personal favorite to watch but I seriously question what is going to happen when he doesn't have that speedy receiver. When he was at Glenville, he had Shane Winn who was that much more athletic than everyone they plan. These past 3 games, he had Devin Smith, the 2014 version of Ted Ginn Jr. (as a receiver). Next year, we don't have a single receiver who has proven to be consistent enough and a speed demon. With Cardale in the game, teams of to respect the deep ball. That is why teams kept their safeties back deeper when he was in the game. This completely opened up the running game. Zeke is an absolute monster, don't get me wrong. But, you noticed how his productivity, averages, and effectiveness exploded when Cardale was at qb compared to Barrett? In my opinion, it is because teams had to respect the deep ball with Cardale compared to JT. Also, to point out, most of Cardales incompletions were "throw aways" and not just plain bad passes. If we take out the throw aways, Cardale's completion percentage would be better than Barrett's.
Now, Braxton is the hugest question mark. Brax has(had) the arm strength before he went down. Teams had to respect that. But, he was never really consistent in his passes. His ability to extend plays was perfect for an offensive line with no experience. He provided countless exciting plays on 3rd downs. He was also clearly the best player on the field at all times throughout his career. But, Braxton, much like JT isn't really respected as a passer. Teams stack the box with Braxton because they question his ability to throw. And, something that is another question mark with Braxton is how he can keep teams at bay without Devin Smith. He also lacks the size of Cardale and the vision of JT. But they all lack the athleticism of Brax
You guys are taking things too literally. I am pretty sure the OP was joking and/or being sarcastic.
I think this is a bit of a push. Cardale is a great quarterback, so is Braxton and JT, but we have to look at his body of work. He has had a great 3 games and a couple of athletic highlights throughout the season, but there isn't enough film to evaluate him. Unlike Matt Cassell at USC, Cardale isn't sitting behind any Heisman winners or high NFL draft picks. Actually, OSU isn't the pro factory that USC was back in the day. Now, when you look at what Cardale did this year, it is very similar to what Trevor Knight did last year to Bama's defense. Also, unlike Cassell, Cardale doesn't play in a pro-style offense and hasn't played under center since his days at Glenville (maybe Fork Union). The trend in draft pro quarterbacks have been moving away from those who were running the spread in college, especially a spread like the one we run here. Now, this is no knock against Cardale because he is, in fact, the best pro prospect we have at the position. But, there are several factors working against him if he leaves early at this point
Hahah 3 years...
Without a doubt, this is a home run. Having a strong recruiting class is not always an indicator for success, ask Ron Zook, Brady Hoke, Mack Brown (his last couple of years), Muschamp, etc. If anything, to win in college, you need a coach who can develop players to fit their scheme. Jim Harbaugh does just that. He took Andrew Luck, a 4-star prospect, and Gerhart, a low rated 3-star and put them in a pro scheme. When Harbaugh was at Stanford, he was asked to transform a team that is primarily know for only their academics info a good program. At Michigan, he is asked to transform a team full of talented players into a real championship contender. They already have the talent, but lacked coaches who could develop the players. They have 3 running backs who can be used to pound the ball and Shane Morris who is decent enough to make a few passes a game. They have an offensive line full of 4 and 5 star recruits who just need an Ed Warriner type to coach them up. If Harbaugh was able to turn Stanford into a nationally recognized brand with mid-level recruits, imagine what he can do at Michigan with highly ranked recruits.
Who is Tressell?
It is amazing how people can find beauty in other's trash
Yes definitely, but there was a stigma in America towards the music of African Americans so their music was often outsourced to other places and England was one of the places that was infatuated with it
Idk how you can compare the two. If you are asking for overall recording, you have to give it to America. We are way more diverse and innovative considering blues, jazz, soul and r&b, rock, and rap/hip-hop wede developed in America. The reason why England is highly regarded is because America had its head so far up Jim Crowe's ass to recognize that true musical excellence was created through harmony rather than segregation. In England, they didn't care about color (colour) or race, but talent and creativity.