Buckeyes without a doubt. They lose a, should have been, Heisman candidate QB and win 3 toughest games in deciding fashion. not only win but also stopped the top 3 Heisman finalists in consecutive weeks. It was the best collective team win I can remember in sports to be honest. Cavs were impressive in its own right, but was really Lebron and Kyrie. Cavs don't have a chance without either of those stars.
IMO, OSU did not change the offer because they "might" get another RB. I think they expected TS to progress more than he has to this point. You don't pass on a solid player for the potential of getting a better player. Also I would think they feel Dobbins is a better fit for them. I just can't imagine why else they would move away from a player who is 100% committed for these others guys that are 50/50 chance, unless they just don't feel he is the caliber they were hoping for when originally offered.
Did you think that maybe OSU is helping him by pushing him in another direction? If the coaches don't feel he could play an impactful role at OSU, why would they recruit him and bring him in to sit behind others and never show his ability, thus never getting to the next level?! At least this way he had plenty of time to find a better fit for him and his aspirations of playing at the next level. Yea it sucks, but I don't feel OSU is hanging him out to dry or don't care about the kid at all.
You officially won the day!
Your definition of "right thing" and mine are clearly different. I am not saying I like coaches changing their minds about athletes, but I can understand and appreciate the fact the staff is being upfront with the situation. Lets say high school football player received an offer and decided I don't want play football and never played another game after receiving an offer... would the university still be obligated to give him a scholarship? Things change throughout the recruiting process for both sides, granted it is usually the athlete changing his mind, everyone is getting their panties in a twist because every now and then its the "establishment" that changes it's mine and because of that they are "exploiting" innocent teens.
And once again I ask how you know this to be fact?! You are being rather closed minded to think Tressel or any other coach in big time college football has never done this at some point in one manner or another. Tressel is one of my all time favorite coaches but even he gave into winning games for a price.
As mentioned I think he is a good player and hope he ends up with OSU. But clearly the coaching staff are having second thoughts about where he fits within the system relative to all other prospects. The actual stars and rankings are meaningless, this observation is direct from the coaching staff. FYI, verbal offers are not committable... the only offer that is technically committable is the written one on national signing day. People often lose sight of this way to easily. That being said the staff has the obligation to communicate everything to the recruit throughout the process, but these kids know, and if they don't they should, an early offer isn't a guarantee. Kids learning this now will only serve them better in the work force and even more so if they have aspiration to play pro sports. The staff was within their rights and ethics to approach the situation as they have until the process is fully overhauled, which will never happen.
I wasn't aware you knew all of Tressel's recruits, his tactics, and whether he ever asked someone to grey shirt. Seems like a rather ignorant statement IMO. Love Tressel to death, but let's not act like Tressel is as Holy as the Pope, he had his own pit falls. Not to mention recruiting is so much more media streamline now than it was even 5-6 years ago, we don't know exactly how things were done back then compared to now, and how much the same they are too.
So just because they push his scholarship back 6 months, they are shitting where they eat? They didn't pull his scholarship offer all together, and they are being up front with him months ahead of LOI day. What would you like them to do? Sugarcoat how great he is and how he will be a star, just to let him sit on the bench for the next 4 years until he is a 5th year senior and let him transfer to a MAC school so he can finally get one last chance on the field to play football?! FWIW I hope the kid can get things back on track with OSU but I can respect OSU honesty with him. Once again recruiting is like dating, you like each other and are committed until you find someone better, its not a marriage until LOI.
There is no such thing as a "legit commitment" until signing day. That is why everything is phrased as verbal... I am not saying the system isn't broken, which I think it is. The fact remains there is a reason there are verbal offers and commitments, and then there are written scholarship offers and written letters of intent. Everything on both sides is simply lip service until signing day. I agree with others on here that scholarships shouldn't be offered until senior year, too many things change over 1 year let alone a kid getting an offer as a freshmen or sophomore. But lets keep in mind that the fact remains all this verbal talk is not official for a reason. It is the media, and us as fans, that put all this stake in verbal agreements in recruiting.
There in lies the many issues with the youth of today. I am not saying teenagers cant make mistake and their limited life experience gives them some leeway. However, to fully negate commitment or standing by ones word simply because they are young is ridiculous. I knew right from wrong when I was teenager, and you best believe my parents taught me accountability and commitment too at a uoung age. Why do people view these things as a luxury trait restricted to elders? These kids aren't babies so why treat them as such?!
This whole adult vs teenage argument doesn't make much sense to me. Either both sides need to be held accountable and expected to stick by their word, or both understand the whole "verbal" part of recruiting is nothing more than that, verbal agreement that they like each.
There is nothing 100% about recruiting with anyone involved. Let's try to stay realistic here.
I tend to agree with you here. It is an ugly part of recruiting and this is why I really hate how early schools are able to offer scholarships with these long "verbal commitment" time periods. People often forget that a verbal offer is nothing more than a verbal commitment.
Verbal offer = we are pretty sure you are going to be good enough to play here by the end of your high school career
Verbal commitment = I am pretty sure I want to go here for school, you one of my favorites schools
Neither side is contractually bound to the other and that is why we have an official signing day. The kids change their mind all the time, I don't see why it is such a big deal for schools to do the same, provided its done in a professional manor.
Something about his running style slightly reminds me of Beanie Wells. I think its how he cuts, runs a bit high, and keeps his legs going.
Wait he beat the same USC teams that pretty much lose to ASU or Arizona each year?! Really tough feat there. Then he coached a 49ers team to a NFC championship... when is the last time anyone gave a damn about a conference championship in the NFL. Lastly, doubling their wins... great they went from a crappy team to a decent team, yet still losing to the 2 actually decent teams they played. Not to mentioned getting destroyed by OSU. As mentioned he is a decent coach, will do well, but he has yet to show he can win the games necessary to get a national championship. Then again, *ichigan has always been happy just being relevant. OSU has a bit higher standards.
Glad you at least added to the conversation in a productive manner... typical *ichigan fan willing to argue but without and support and logic behind their own delusion.
Hairball - 0, Meyer - 3.... that is why OSU fans have a love affair with Urbz, he has earned it. Tell me again what Hairball has done for people to think he is an elite coach?! Took an average Stanford team to good, and complete dismantled a talented 49ers team that should have won a SB.
I find the picture for this article to be quite revolting, specifically the flag in the picture... anyway we can fix this?!
I understand. I am not sure whether I am for or against B1G going outside ESPN. But neither OSU or the B1G is going to lose any money or fan attraction if they don't sign with ESPN. Actually the move away from ESPN might be just the thing to sway a huge change in sports media.
You are missing the point by not reading the entire article. The first half is simple showing how idiotic it is to continue to have those same "This Again" articles. The second half, from my understanding, was showing where the focus and effort should be, the victims and nothing less. His points had very little to do with who was right, wrong, or indifferent. Read the second half or you will likely be stuck in the same cyclical mind washing from the "This Again" articles in mainstream media.
Understood and very well put.
Not sure if you misunderstood the article or you are trying to be the definition of "This Again"