What, to watch him eat everything?!?
No intent to disrespect addiction at all... but addiction still starts with a choice not by chance.
Now initially I was all over Gordon saying how stupid he was to keep doing the same things, then I realized that is not a fair statement as there could be, probably is, addiction present causing this.
However, I will maintain my point that "unfortunate" is not the right word here as nothing to this point was due to luck or lack there of. "Sad" might be the right word, "sympathetic" possibly as I would feel sympathy for his issues. But at the end of the day he made his own choices, he made his own "luck". As mentioned I hope he gets better, I will not sympathize for the repercussion he has dealt himself, but I will sympathize for an illness or addiction he may have.
"Unfortunate" would entail bad things happening out of his control or by chance, although I don't think he is as terrible a person as some, he has controlled and made decisions on all the "bad fortune" he has received in his career. Don't feel bad for the guy, but hope he realizes his potential and matures before its too late.
Childhood dreams typically take a back seat to more practical decision making. I as well have been a Buckeye my whole life and question why anyone would play else where. However, if I try to pull myself away from that and think a bit more objectively if I were in a recruits spot, there are several items that would be important. Connection with coaches, playing scheme, depth chart, development, etc. Not to mention I have only known Ohio... if I got a paid trip to go see USC I might change my tune once you get to a different campus. The kids had to digest a lot, and for some who plan to use football as a career, this is really a career decision. I sure as hell wasn't ready for that when I was 18.
Wait... we just had a QB play only 3 games and he was considered to be a mid round draft pick this year.... yea I guess or system isn't good enough to mold NFL QB's...
I hope he continues to progress like he did this past year. Could be the most excited to watch WR I have seen since Terry Glenn, at least for me.
Further proving that the stupid star ratings really don't mean $hit. Make it happen on the field, who cares what some 40 year old creepers think of 17-18 year old young men.
We are only going to be as good as the people who WANT to be here, half hearted doesn't win Championships and this season was evidence of what happens when everyone buys in. Nothing against the kid, but glad he decided to go elsewhere that is best for him, rather than stick around second guessing his decision and not buying fully into what the Buckeyes are all about. Next man up!
That's the stupidity of it... he has know his entire career he is obligated to talk to media, and now its an issue?! Granted he is demanded more, but he knew what he signed up. Now, if he really does have a psychological issue with talking to media, then I would think he would have taken a different approach with the NFL and explained his situation and come to some understanding.... not just stomp your feet and throw a tantrum like a child leaving the room. From all I can tell he is just being an ass out of principle.
Valid point, but I hate going to meetings and talking to people for work, but that's what I signed up for. He is getting paid a sure hell of a lot more than me to do something that is within his job when he accepted it.
Then tell him to call Taylor Lewan and ask "How was your time at *ichigan, and what did you learn during your time there?" someone please que the pic... cant find it..
Not to say your source is not reliable... but everyone and there brother knew what was going to happen with the AD and Harbaugh, most even knew the timeline too. So if those are your only 2 supporting evidence I would say he isn't actually in the backroom getting all the down and dirty like you might think. Hope Weber sticks with Bucks, but will be a little anxious until that signed piece of paper comes in on the 4th.
Here is the trumping to card to anything, anyone ever says about questions OSU being undisputed National Champs...
We won our last 3 games, beat their asses, with our 3rd string QB. So..
Bama was a fluke? If they are so good, how do they lose to a 3rd sting Q?! Not to mention we actually played a pretty sloopy game, probably the worst of the final 3 and still won by a solid margin and should have been more.
this is worse than calling the recruit the wrong name.... apparently Hoke still prevalent in *ichigan.
Never use statistical information or logic when arguing a case against the SEC (especially its golden goose) or mark may's butt hurt alma mater.
Didn't he play in few enough games to apply for normal red-shirt? I thought he got injured early on, not sure the difference or advantage to applying for medical or regular red-shirt, but think he would have been eligible for normal red shirt.
I agree... however as sad as it is, I think this would have received a flag in the NFL. You literally cannot breath on a QB in the NFL... they are the golden goose. I however see no harm in this play, you cant stop 275Lbs at full sprint in a slit second.
Not sure I see too much value in bringing in a guy who didn't pan out in another premier team. more often than not these situation don't add too much value. Also we have good depth at RB, and the haul we are looking to take in 2016 looks pretty promising. Not saying we wouldn't take him, but not sure I see too much value in it.
"Inner 13 year old" and "Dicks" should never be in corresponding sentences... IMO.... but yea I laughed too.
I sure hope he is playing on Sundays... he has definitely earned it this year. Would love to see the Steelers pick him up in a later round as I think NFL teams might under value him. Look at what Ward was able to do his entire career, block and play solid. Spencer embodies that!
Yea this needs to stop.... otherwise I will be forced to do actual work at work... whoever heard of such a thing!
Now we are getting somewhere. I really enjoy having discussions like this because I am able to learn new perspectives outside my own so I can be enlightened. You finally understand what my point was!!
We were arguing two different points. I would have to agree with your statement that the cover up was terrible along with all the other wrong doings. Had this been a less serious offense I would more likely be ok with the NCAA stepping in to give the ignorant hypocritical 2 cents. However, you hit it on the head, the real issue.. the real problem is still based around the victims and those who harbored the criminal and his actions.
For the record it is not my intent to twist anything. I am just stating my opinion; you don’t have to agree with me, just like I don’t have to agree with you. Neither is right or wrong. As mentioned above I like to see others perspectives and always educate myself more. Could you send me your research paper? Would be interested in finding out more, might even help remold my perspective on this whole thing.
Absolutely understand what you are saying... it probably tend to agree with you. Had Paterno been investigated properly and give his day in court to be judged guilty, I would 100% agree. However, this didn't happen before he died. Wish he could have faced the situation to either explain it, or defend himself. To me there are still to many uncertainties to condemn a man completely based on "he said, she said". I am NOT saying he is innocent of this at all, just giving my confused 2 cents.
305, let me start by saying I def respect all the inside info you post on here in reference to prospects and recruits. Always find your info to be solid in filling the time between the staffs comments.
As for this situation, I feel you lack a lot of knowledge and I feel my points are being viewed differently than intended. I would like to start with a few questions, then we can continue in a good discussion:
Can you please tell me what Joe Paterno was told my McQ? I find it interesting to hear peoples opinions on this questions
Can you please tell me what Joe Paterno told the administration?
Can you please tell me what the investigation uncovered, whether the Free Report or private report?
As for my last paragraph, I feel you are missing what I was trying to state. The games are insignificant in this situation. Children were brutalized and you think anyone within this situation gives a fuck about the number of won football games?! PLease go ask the victims or their families whether they give a shit that the NCAA stepped in to take games away. Then ask them whether they are happy the appropriate people involved were removed and being persecuted. Also to compare this terrible situation to that of tattoos and Heisman trophies is insulting to the true victims. The fact that you and other try to compare the situation all together further shows you are arguing a different point then me.
You are absolutely correct that the offense and covering it up was absolutely atrocious. I have and never will argue that... I whole heartedly agree with what you are saying in that regard. I do have a slight issue with you attacking me as being "sick", additionally taking my words out of context was also not appreciated. I have never stated it was ok to cover anything up for an image.
If you take some time and actually read what was posted, comprehend the words and position, then you might understand the bigger picture and point I was attempting to get across. I apologize if my statement came across confusion or lacked clarity. However, and I apologize for the insult, your post are coming across very ignorant and ill-phrased, and frankly a completely different argument. The fact that you have posted the same thing 5 times further proves you have no interest in thinking past your own limited thoughts. Please try re-reading the post, actually enlighten yourself on the entire situation, and stop labeling people as "child abuse supporters" (my words, but your sediment) because you lack understanding of the post.