Without a doubt he is a 1st Round talent. Still bummed my Steelers didn't pick him up....
fair point... however skill wise Zwick and Danny are much more comparable and so are Martell and Smith. I don't always buy into the star and rankings myself, but film on both shows a bit of disparity in talent in my opinion. Zwick never impressed me and not to be negative, but neither has Clark. Jury still out on Martell for me, but I do see similarities in Clark and Zwick from a hype and then flame out stand point, IMO.
Does he?! I recall Martell being hyped about being PART of the No 1 class, but I don't recall seeing anywhere that he said he was the reason for the No 1 class.
If we are being honest here the people to blame are OSU and Clark... not the fans. OSU shouldn't have offered so early until they were able to see how he developed, and Clark hasn't done much to live up the hype that was set upon him. Even though expectations are usually unfair, they are a part of recruiting and high profile college football. It has been over a year that people have questioned the skill level of Clark for OSU, it wasn't just Martell coming in that put Clark at the end of the bench so to speak. Similar to Sibley, you hate to see this part of recruiting but its a two way relationship at the end of the day, the coaches need to be smart in how they pursue kids and the kids have to perform to the level expected if they want to remain at the top.
Grant over Apple... not so much over Roby, IMO.
And to think Noah Spence should have been in the running too...
Agreed and well said. Grant was a much less herald recruit and player, but was an absolute beast his last 2 years. He didn't make many sexy plays, but he was a shut down corner, more so than Apple IMO. I'm pretty excited for Conley this upcoming year, I think he could surpass both if he progresses as expected.
I understand your point but I think you are minimizing what Elliott accomplished and just how good he was. I have all the faith in Weber being Elliott level, at some point, but to think there won't be a drop off is a bit crazy to me. We are spoiled with talent at OSU, but Elliotts talent is not a common and I am not sure it is realistic to expect as such. I would prefer to expect the drop in production and be pleasantly surprised rather than other way around IMO.
I know Dobbins said he would likely look around if we got another RB (Akers), but as mentioned in articles the other programs he refers to have RB committed as well. Not to mention or RB rooster is really not that loaded up with bodies since both Ball and Dunn are gone. We currently have 2 true RBs, both being very young. Tons of opportunity for 2 more young stud RB to join.
I desperately miss it as well. Stuck playing '14 with a garbage cover, and I am in season like 2024. This game needs to return. Damn those college players demanding to be paid, I don't think any of the ones that filed the suit were any good to begin with.
I definitely see that as well, and think I stated as such in another thread. He is a back that always breaks at least one tackle and always seems to fall forward. No slight on Dunn, but he just lacked a tenacity we have come to expect at the RB position, just my opinion. Without a doubt there will be a drop off from Elliott to Weber, but I like what I have seen, and hearing he is a willing blocker as well is just as important for his development and showing he has the right mentality for the RB job.
Maybe a little, but IMO Weber was going to overtake Dunn after the first couple games. Don't mean to be negative on Dunn, but I think Weber is going to be a Hyde type beast.
I did the same thing with a pre-paid card, but had issues using it. I eventually used regular credit card and had no issues, and haven't seen anything since either.
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Would love to hear how Cris defends his asshat son here. As talented as he was/is I am glad he is not truly a buckeye. He was a talent that passed through columbus momentarily.
Buckeyes without a doubt. They lose a, should have been, Heisman candidate QB and win 3 toughest games in deciding fashion. not only win but also stopped the top 3 Heisman finalists in consecutive weeks. It was the best collective team win I can remember in sports to be honest. Cavs were impressive in its own right, but was really Lebron and Kyrie. Cavs don't have a chance without either of those stars.
IMO, OSU did not change the offer because they "might" get another RB. I think they expected TS to progress more than he has to this point. You don't pass on a solid player for the potential of getting a better player. Also I would think they feel Dobbins is a better fit for them. I just can't imagine why else they would move away from a player who is 100% committed for these others guys that are 50/50 chance, unless they just don't feel he is the caliber they were hoping for when originally offered.
Did you think that maybe OSU is helping him by pushing him in another direction? If the coaches don't feel he could play an impactful role at OSU, why would they recruit him and bring him in to sit behind others and never show his ability, thus never getting to the next level?! At least this way he had plenty of time to find a better fit for him and his aspirations of playing at the next level. Yea it sucks, but I don't feel OSU is hanging him out to dry or don't care about the kid at all.
You officially won the day!
Your definition of "right thing" and mine are clearly different. I am not saying I like coaches changing their minds about athletes, but I can understand and appreciate the fact the staff is being upfront with the situation. Lets say high school football player received an offer and decided I don't want play football and never played another game after receiving an offer... would the university still be obligated to give him a scholarship? Things change throughout the recruiting process for both sides, granted it is usually the athlete changing his mind, everyone is getting their panties in a twist because every now and then its the "establishment" that changes it's mine and because of that they are "exploiting" innocent teens.
And once again I ask how you know this to be fact?! You are being rather closed minded to think Tressel or any other coach in big time college football has never done this at some point in one manner or another. Tressel is one of my all time favorite coaches but even he gave into winning games for a price.
As mentioned I think he is a good player and hope he ends up with OSU. But clearly the coaching staff are having second thoughts about where he fits within the system relative to all other prospects. The actual stars and rankings are meaningless, this observation is direct from the coaching staff. FYI, verbal offers are not committable... the only offer that is technically committable is the written one on national signing day. People often lose sight of this way to easily. That being said the staff has the obligation to communicate everything to the recruit throughout the process, but these kids know, and if they don't they should, an early offer isn't a guarantee. Kids learning this now will only serve them better in the work force and even more so if they have aspiration to play pro sports. The staff was within their rights and ethics to approach the situation as they have until the process is fully overhauled, which will never happen.
I wasn't aware you knew all of Tressel's recruits, his tactics, and whether he ever asked someone to grey shirt. Seems like a rather ignorant statement IMO. Love Tressel to death, but let's not act like Tressel is as Holy as the Pope, he had his own pit falls. Not to mention recruiting is so much more media streamline now than it was even 5-6 years ago, we don't know exactly how things were done back then compared to now, and how much the same they are too.
So just because they push his scholarship back 6 months, they are shitting where they eat? They didn't pull his scholarship offer all together, and they are being up front with him months ahead of LOI day. What would you like them to do? Sugarcoat how great he is and how he will be a star, just to let him sit on the bench for the next 4 years until he is a 5th year senior and let him transfer to a MAC school so he can finally get one last chance on the field to play football?! FWIW I hope the kid can get things back on track with OSU but I can respect OSU honesty with him. Once again recruiting is like dating, you like each other and are committed until you find someone better, its not a marriage until LOI.