The only good thing that could come from paying our Buckeyes is that Ohio would finally have a successful PRO football team!
This does raise a curious point, how would the NCAA level the playing between schools related to unions? If the ultimate outcome is pay for play it would obviously give the paying schools (see $EC) an advantage over those who don't. I suspect a stipend will be the end game for the P5 schools. Call it a salary or cost of living stipend, same result.
DJ…why not put some meat around your general comments that “Hell, a lot of these kids could pay their own way through school (if they chose) if they were compensated like the ADULTS they would be compensated as in any other industry.” Where in this adult world is a true (uneducated) freshman aged (18-19) individual get a salary of 40, 60, 80K per year (the real value of a D1 football scholly)??? Does not happen!!!
In reality, a person’s salary has little to do with the profitability of the company for which they work. A lot of people make good salaries who work for struggling companies, much like most athletic departments. So let that part of your argument go as it only proves much of your position is driven by jealousy of another’s salary. Salary does however reflect the value/potential an employee brings to that company. Your argument might be better served if you could prove the current “4.3s or bench press 450 lbs” athlete is absolutely essential to the survival of the sport than say a “4.6s” guy.
I do agree that change is coming and that the NCAA may be taking its final breaths. I also agree that the scholarship athlete should receive some sort of stipend that covers the actual cost of living while on scholarship. However a union is not the answer, as that will only drive up costs for us the consumer.
Hope Winston is expelled from the University as it sounds like FSU has grounds to do so. In reality, I would be very, very surprised if that happened. So on to wishful thinking plan B, I hope that POS has every ligament in both knees shredded during his next athletic outing!!! While I really do not like to wish ill on others I have no sympathy for assholes like these three, F'em.
Good points Squirrel +1. I fully agree that this shoulda, coulda been handled better as it just makes everyone involved look foolish and/or selfesh somewhere along the line. While I don't disagree she should have publically stood behind her kid, for sake of appearance, I fully support her disdain of the reported/rumored happeninings at MSU during the visit. That same thing would have really set me off as a parent, possibly even to the extent of not supporting my kids decision in this situation. It would absolutely make me not "allow" my child to go to that school as a "paying" parent.
At Theo..Is it not the parents responsibility to instruct the child when the child is making a possible, bad decision? Your simplistic view that this is his decision to screw up is not how a responsible parent is going to view it. And sure as hell not going to support it! What's this abuse of power crap? She has no power over him (else he would sign elsewhere) and am quite sure both know he will eventually go to the school of his choice, but will do so without her consent.
Squirrel...your logic is weak and parental guidance may be lacking. How is it acceptable for him to make the decision on which school to attend and not acceptable for his mother to make the decisin to disagree with his choice? I would also argue it is her parental duty/obligation to object to what she considers his "mistake" to whatever degree that she can. In this case by not signing the LOI. While we all know this should have been handled more privately it is what it is at this point and she has every right to not sign up to his "mistake". It will be very interesting over the next few years to see how he handles himself in situations of little oversight, I only hope his mother is wrong about his laziness.
Eric..please give us examples where unions and business co-exist and are co-profitable. Unions typically drive up the cost of every product in which they have influence (autos, fuel, education) and drive down quality (autos, education, etc). Point being, the consumer pays more for less when unions are involved.
Aside from the DC politicians, you are spot on! +1 good sir.
Good info Sock. I might try that and then cancel my reservations @$250 per night at the Hampton Inn.
I am "almost" positive OSU are the visitors. While I cannot duplicate on my old IPad if you can get to the interactive stadium map to purchase tickets and click on the OSU vs Navy pull down below the stadium image it should reflect which side OSU is sitting. That, along with the fact that OSU schedule reflects this to ba an away game says Navy is the home team.
Wow, thanks for that (bit) of info DC and look forward to your future write up. Definitely looking at the Inner Harbor area for all the reasons mentioned (walking distance to food and drinks, safe environment, etc) and will look into the Hampton Inn. BTW it seems as if these hotels are filling up for that weekend, so anyone else thinking about this trip may want to make reservations soon. Was thinking of doing DC on another trip just to give all the sites sufficient time, but that BBQ and BEER fest you mentioned is intriguing!
Any opinions from anyone on which hotels to absolutely stay away from (say the Pier 5 for instance)? Going to nail down the hotel today, if possible.
Agree, gonna try to get some Chap's while in town. As I recall that's the place on the Triple D show and it looked damn good. Beer and BBQ, can't go wrong!
Thank you, will definitely get the aquarium tickets in advance. Agree with all the comments that the Inner Harbor looks like the best option for the casual visitor. Seems like plenty to keep busy with for a few hours after game and lots of food options. Glad you mentioned the Orioles games as we may want to consider dinner reservations. Thanks again.
lol, I've heard about that Hove guy. Maybe I should pass this time tho
Great input CPLUNK, much appreciated.
Nice, real nice Clark!!!
I suspect tomorrow brings even bigger B1G awards; Shazier gets DPOY, Miller gets OPOY, and Meyer gets COY.
False statement. The talking heads would be saying that AU should jump tOSU even if we curb stopped scUM. It is their job to stir the shit for ratings purpose. If SOS was the end all we would be ranked above FSU
Don't you mean #1? Just who in the hell has FSU played? That's right no one, conclusion you do NOT know what you speak of. Therefore STFU and go away!
Given all you know today, and all you suspect Hoke may or may not bring to the program in the future, would you and/or the fan base up North be willing to trade Hoke and his staff for say a John Harbaugh or say a Les Miles level coach and his new staff. Meaning would you forfeit the headway (not fully proven by most accounts) Hoke has achieved for the potential a proven winner could bring to TTUN? Thanks in advance.
I would love to see the Wildcats again. Giving them a ton of credit as they played lights out against us, IMO, they also unloaded their arsenal on the Bucks. The Buckeyes on the other hand have a lot more in the bank we did not reveal in this game. Imagine a Braxton that is more secure in the run game, a healthy Hall, speedy end arounds with Wilson, Hyde being Hyde, and some better hands with our WR/TE corps, throw in a little diamond formation, etc. IMO, on a neutral field, I think the Bucks have the ability to beat this team by a considerable amount and while I think NU "can" beat the Bucks, me thinks NU may have thrown their very best at the Bucks and could not get it done at home.
Wow, feel better? Herbie deserves much of his criticism as he seems to ride the tOSU hate train when it benefits him. And yes, as Norwalk mentioned, he ranked us below lesser teams, one of which we had just beaten in a bowl game, splain that Lucy. Now I do agree we can get a little too harsh with the guy, but he will get over it, just about the time he cashes his big fat pay checks.
Still love me some Jim Tressel It is obvious that he really cared about the kids he recruited and was put in a no win situation. Good luck to Tress at Akron U.