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Broadcaster and sales professional at Feedstuffs, the weekly newspaper for agribusiness; writer and professional speaker.

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Comment 24 Apr 2015

Good points, 0710, and I'm right there with you. If you go back and read the history of Coach Hayes' tenure, there are more than a few games where one could safely assume a slightly more "modern" approach to the game would have bagged a victory (and probably more titles), but it's important to remember that the game is more often than not evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

Paul Brown proved that Ohio State could win at the highest level. Woody established Ohio State as a perennial football powerhouse who belonged in the same conversation as giants like Alabama, and made The Rivalry truly a rivalry instead of just a longstanding grudge. John Cooper turned Ohio State into a national entity rather than just a regional concern in terms of recruiting, and Jim Tressel restored the balance in The Force that was lacking during Coopers reign of futility in The Game.

Each of those frontmen had an identity that was wholly their own, and each was, in their own way, the right man at the right time for the program. Ohio State sorely needed Jim Tressel to call his own shot in The Rivalry, and deliver on that promise, as he did in spades. Ohio State needed Jim Tressel to prove that we were not a national also-ran in the national title conversation, and that we could win big games consistently. Ohio State needed Jim Tressel to build a wall around the state and make sure that our homegrown talent stayed home more often than not. He was both the coach we needed, and the coach we deserved.

And in fairness to the previous poster's comment, Urban Meyer was the guy we needed when his number came up. Tressel's offensive playbook was more Woody Hayes than was Cooper's, and the game has clearly evolved into this spread-to-run Urban Meyer/Chip Kelley style offensive mindset. Defense still wins championships, and Meyer is the guy who knows how not only to create the most consistently effective and explosive offense in the game, he also knows how to defend against it with equal effectiveness (hi there, Oregon, nice to see you).

Jim Tressel will forever be one of my favorite Buckeyes. Without Jim Tressel, we may not have been in position to bag Urban Meyer when we did, and we may still only be a 6-natty program instead of the reigning, defending, undisputed, 8-time world heavyweight champions of the world.

Comment 23 Apr 2015

Glad you're okay Buck. Good to hear from you.

Comment 23 Apr 2015

Hope he takes lots of photo's to share

Takes lots of photo's whats? Photo's toys? Photo's candy? Photo's wacky tobaccy?

Comment 23 Apr 2015

I have been having speed issues with U-Verse, I am always disappointed when I run speed test.

I'm just the opposite - I LOVE my U-Verse service. I just ran the speed test, over WiFi using their supplied WiFi router and got 18.5 downstream and 1.75 upstream - I'm on the Max Plus package, which promises 18 mbps downstream and 1.5 upstream, so they're delivering as promised here.

Comment 23 Apr 2015

If I grew up in LA I'd be an even more insufferable bag of douche than I am now.

...or be dead or in prison. Either way, Warren G. Harding would be proud. (But, would you still be a bloodrider for the aforementioned Commander In Chief... There's a philosophical conundrum for you.)

Comment 23 Apr 2015

And how did you know that...?

Google Image Search is a powerful skill to master.

Comment 23 Apr 2015

My guess is that because Mom and Dad are both West Pointers, they had a chat with their son about respect and the Commander In Chief, and the apology came shortly thereafter.

I agree with everyone else that an apology wasn't necessary, but if my kid did it, I'd probably have his ass, too.

Comment 22 Apr 2015
In addition to his favoring Texas for the '69 title, President Nixon and Woody were good friends...believe Nixon attended Woody's funeral when he passed in 1987.

This is correct. Woody was also friends with President Gerald R. Ford, willfully overlooking Ford's affiliation with That Team Up North. One of my favorite Woody stories was that Ford, when speaking at the 1974 Ohio State Commencement, was accompanied from the airport by University President Harold Enarson and one Wayne Woodrow Hayes. An excerpt from President Ford's remarks:

Obviously, it is a very great honor for me to be at Ohio State University, sometimes known as the Land of the Free and the Home of Woody Hayes. I met Woody at the airport. We just had our picture taken together and when the picture appears in today's Dispatch, I am pretty sure what the caption will say: "Woody Hayes, and Friend."

As many of you know, I have had a great interest in football for a good many years. I played center for the University of Michigan and I still remember my senior year back in 1934. The Wolverines played Ohio in Columbus, and we lost 34 to nothing. And to make it even worse, we lost seven out of our eight ball games, but what really hurt was that my teammates, after the end of the season, voted me the most valuable player. (Laughter) I didn't know whether to smile or sue. (Laughter)

Comment 21 Apr 2015

Lots of good stuff here, and we're all pretty much on the same page. Athletics is an important, but not the most important part of a university president's portfolio.

Dr. Drake was tapped specifically because he's a medical guy, and the med center is pretty much the biggest agenda item on Ohio State's plate at the moment. This makes sense, as presidents are generally hired with a specific mission in mind - Gee was hired as the anti-Holbrook, and the revitalize the fiscal well-being of the university, both tasks which he took to like a fish to water.

The jury is out on Drake's success as president, but like others I'm not thrilled withe the handling of the Waters situation, though that may well have been decided before he was actually pulling the strings given the timeline of his hiring and first official day on the job.

Comment 21 Apr 2015

I may just be spoiled

Yes, that's it. Well, I'm sort of kidding, but I think current students are spoiled to have the access to a living legend that they do, and it's likely that the current student body is taking it for granted. In the same way, students who only ever knew Gordon Gee as their president (as opposed to those of us who lived through Karen Holbrook) probably took for granted that he was the greatest university president in the history of man.

All in all, commencement speakers are a crapshoot. For those who don't graduate in the Spring commencement (at least back in the days when they did four commencements per year), you're almost guaranteed to get a faculty member or trustee or politician who you will have forgotten by the time you toss your cap. So while I can understand your disappointment/frustration/whatever, take comfort in the fact that literally tens of thousands of your fellow alumni have suffered through far worse speakers than Archie Griffin.

Comment 25 Mar 2015

Good point, but ideally when people do point to him making so many final fours each team essentially does have to beat the same "average" team to get there.

Actually, I think I'd argue that point. Kentucky has a much easier road to the Final Four as a 1-seed than Sparty has as a 7-seed. Consider UK's road: Hampton, UC, WVU, Notre Dame/Wichita State, Wisconsin or Arizona. Pretty tough at the Elite 8 and Final Four, sure, but the first two rounds are cupcakes, and I give WVU no better than a puncher's chance to topple the Wildcats.

Contrast that with Sparty, where Izzo's squad topped a solid Georgia, and very good Virginia, and will have a surging Oklahoma before facing Louisville in the Elite Eight, and most likely Duke in the Final Four. That's a tough row to hoe, for sure. So while UK's first two rounds are almost gimmies, MSU's were legitimate contests.

Is it far an away different? Eh, maybe not, but Unky is right - being underseeded consistently means that Izzo's teams consistently have to play tougher tournament schedules than their more highly-seeded counterparts.

Comment 25 Mar 2015

That being said, I won't disagree that Izzo appears to out punch his weight in March, but couldn't one reverse the data and say he ends up doing just what he is suppose to do, and underwhelms in the regular season?

It does appear to be a "knock" on Izzo, but I think your next sentence outlines my position - Izzo schedules tougher out-of-conference games, so it's natural that he'll drop a few. Also, if we assume that he starts with 3-star talent, so to speak, but coaches them to 4- and 5-star results, then it also makes sense that early season games won't feature as polished a Spartan squad as we see in March.

Matta making it to the sweet sixteen when he has the best team in the country is given less weight than Michigan State as a 7 seed even though they both made it to the same stage of the tournament. This is a reasonable argument, and does make one question the validity of the study when it doesn't have Thad Matta in the top 30 of the country.

I think you've read the premise correctly - Izzo is the best in the country at playing far above his seed, and Matta's teams either play as expected for their seeding, or perhaps underplays their seeding (we don't know, because we don't know where Matta falls on the grid since we only see the top 30). The challenge to your argument, however, is that Rick Pitino and John Calipari are #2 and #3 on the list, respectively... How many times have those guys coached teams with a 1, 2, 3 or 4 seed? Almost every year, more or less, so how much can a coach overplay those seeds? In the case of Pitino, he's only a few percentage points behind Izzo, so apparently he does okay at coaching above his seeding.

And yes, your final observation is fair - one "study" by an internet blog, even one as well-respected as FiveThirtyEight (Nate Silver is a bloody genius), does not an irrefutable fact make. Be that as it may, the data here is pretty compelling, or at least very, very interesting.

Comment 25 Mar 2015

I'll grant that East Lansing isn't quite as "sexy" to a recruit as Columbus, but I think it's a push with Madison. Madison itself is smaller, for sure, but it's a very progressive metropolitan town, and the city is - as you mentioned - every bit as passionate about their university as we are about ours. I'm not sure what you mean by "Ryan and Izzo both ended up in similar if not better situations than Matta when they started," but I think the rest of your comment is more important.

Ryan definitely has a style that he coaches and recruits, and that works for him. By contrast, Matta's shortcoming, I have heard it posited (and I don't know if I agree or not), is that he has a style that he coaches, but fails to adjust that style to the players he has. Compare this with Urban Meyer who makes whatever adjustments are necessary to accommodate his personnel in any given year. It may well be that this theoretical failure to adjust - compounded by a very Tressel-like loyalty to seniors, regardless of their talent or deficiencies - is the reason we've seen such relatively lackluster seasons of late.

Izzo, on the other hand, seems to adjust fairly well to his personnel, as evidenced by his nearly incomparable consistency in tournament play.

Comment 25 Mar 2015

The one thing I'll say in Matta's defense, or in critique of Izzo is that some of this comes down to recruiting... Matta has always been considered one of the best in the game, and Izzo has always been lauded for turning 3-star talent into 4- and 5-star results. Recruiting, like it or not, is a huge part of the equation, so perhaps it's fair to ask why Izzo doesn't bring more blue chippers to East Lansing than he does, considering that he's clearly one of the top three or five coaches in the game today, if not one of the top 5 or 10 all time.

Comment 25 Mar 2015

I know that it's popular to hate Duke in general and Coach K in specific, but I can't find anything to dislike about Coach K other than winning. Is has, statistically, done more with his resources than Coach K, but Coach K has all those rings, so he's hard to knock.

One thing that I do like about Duke, in general, is that you don't hear much BS out of K's players, and I recently saw some very interesting (in a good way) Tweets on Duke athletic culture from one of their assistant football coaches:

Comment 25 Mar 2015

I'm with 09 on this one - I'd much rather list to Coach Knight talk basketball, and I love the fact that he calls it as he sees it. I'd much rather listen to his straight talk than Dickey V's platitudes.