What exactly does a sub to 12W get you?
Not important at all, but instead of saying "darn" just say "damn". I'm sure most of the people on this site are 18+ but even those at even 12+ are accustomed to that word. I don't want to make it seem like a criticism, just an opinion.
People forget so quickly that Baylor and TCU only had one loss but no conference championship. Baylor's was to #3 TCU, might as well be the #1 team. It is a longshot, but it would require two of: a three loss PAC12 or SEC champ or a two loss ACC champ.
We should expect no less than for Hilliard to be an All American by the time he leaves OSU with that legacy
What's your opinion on Pryts, Birm?
I think you should analyze teams each year rather than just Ohio State. I haven't done any kind of research, but I would guess there is almost no correlation between All-American players at certain positions and national championship teams. Almost every position on a championship team is top 10 in the country, fluctuating from 1-10. A certain player on the national championship team could be one of the best QBs in the league's history (JT Barrett) but not be an All-American that year due to another school having one of the best QB's in CFB history.
"the other site" I could be wrong but I think that is the proper way to refer to another recruiting website on here.
I'm sure this comment won't be received kindly, but I'm sure I can't be the only one with this opinion, not willing to submit it due to probable down votes. I'm not really a fan of the Cupp offer, not because we're "full" on OL, but rather that we're in on so many talented skill guys to finish off the class on top of a DL. I trust Urban Meyer and I believe Cupp got the offer because he's an Ohio State caliber player, but I would've just rather seen the scholarship used for a different position.
Hopefully this just means that Urban is aware of more early entries and attrition than we are really thinking. Either way, I assume I'll be welcoming Cupp to the family soon and I hold nothing against him as a player.
I think Birm almost gave away that Lecounte is a silent commit...
For anyone who has questions he has a mailbag going in the forums.
Birm, regarding the article, you included Pryor in the title but failed the mention him in the article. Typo?
Edit: Looks like it was.
It comes down to whether the player is a "take" for the staff at the time. A non-commitable offer is basically telling the player they are really interested, but we need "more evaluation time" i.e. waiting for other, higher targets to make their decision. If Victor, Corley, and NCM (pipe dream at this point until he visits, IF he visits) all commit elsewhere, then they make a push for Mitchell. The offer never really officially becomes committable where they tell him that he can now commit, but once they make a push for him ("Are you ready to commit?") that's when he becomes a "take".
I'm no expert, and if you want you could ask Birm to explain this issue in depth, but from what I've read on numerous sites and figured out, this is basically how it goes. And for what it's worth, with the receivers available in 2017, I don't think Mitchell ever becomes a take.
I'm not trying to be a jerk at all either, I'm just pointing out that there are tons of discussions about Mitchell that go on everyday and I'm sure you could find your information somewhere in there. That being said, it's been speculated that he would've already committed to OSU if his offer was committable and that the staff is telling him they need further evaluation. How do you think he as a 17/18 year old feels having OSU as his #1 option and not being able to commit? If I were him, I'd list us too and keep holding off trying to get that offer.
Why is there a need to be snarky? He's asking an opinion based question and I decided to give my take on it. After all, that's what a board is for... discussion.
He poaches their recruits? So in that same view, programs such as OSU and Bama "poach" players that they flip from smaller P5 schools. The coach is allowed to offer anyone he wants. I didn't realize it was considered not having integrity to offer a player a chance to play at a better school if he feels he can play there.
Threads like these make me embarrassed to be a part of this online community. So many of you looking through your scarlet and gray glasses and rushing to conclusions about MSU and Dantonio. Everything I've heard from Sparty fans is that Cupp did not tell anyone he would be visiting OSU for FNL and Dantonio has a very strict policy about communication. He has nothing against commits making visits as long as they let the staff know.
Abdul Adams visited Alabama and got an offer, but he told Dantonio beforehand about the visit. I'm sure if one of our commits made a visit and didn't let the coaches know, that they'd probably get the "if you're looking, we're looking" speech. From what I've heard about Dantonio, he has a lot of integrity when it comes to recruiting. He doesn't even allow a player to commit without visiting first, and wants you to keep making visits and exploring your options before you commit to MSU.
I don't comment much but the circle jerk on this thread is out of hand.
Edit: This board is becoming more and more like Reddit. If you don't share the mainstream opinion, you'll get down voted. I don't care about online brownie points, but why do I get down voted for a well stated post with good grammar that has a reasonable claim?
This has been answered over 100 times on this website
I'd go with the DL considering two of the RB commits will be used more like Marshall and Wilson.
Where did you see this?
In 20 years who will be the most well known Jonathan Cooper? The coach or player in class of 16?
Clever cover up :)
That and Lee's freshmen numbers were almost identical to Scooby's, in some cases a little better or a little worse. There's no way in hell that Scooby would be as dominant on this defense.
Try to tell that to r/CFB. I got down voted to hell.
edit: don't even dare mention that Darron Lee is just as good or better than Scooby
I could've sworn Victor was visiting for FNL. I guess not
I was ejected for disorderly conduct and then they found alcohol when they brought me out but I wasn't arrested thank god