If you go back and really watch all of the games - he had some bad periods as well.
That seems pretty amazing for Weber to be back in pads already.
Agree Jack. I've watched the entire season several times now and all of the big games many times. JT is a good QB but he put up stats against some weaker competition, with MSU being the exception. Cardale is better than JT right now - or at the end of last year. We may have beaten WI with JT but I don't think we beat AL or OR with him.
Sounds like JT has improved arm strength and whoever wins the job, the other will be waiting in the wings if needed.
Couldn't agree more. I've rewatched every game more than once, and the PSU, MSU, um, Wisc., AL OR games a bunch. JT racked up some stats and played very well for the most part, but against the toughest D's we played all year, Cardale was lights out. Cardale has abilities that we haven't seen at OSU in a long time - maybe ever - I've been watching since the 60's. He has the best arm I can remember, and has a pocket presence that is really uncanny. How many times in those last three games did he "feel" where the rush was coming from and escape, or step up in to the pocket and make a throw with a defender about to hit him?... or just throw it away because of coverage? I like him because he runs when he has to and is very effective. Save the running plays for the running backs. Cardale, in my opinion, is the best QB we have.
Realist and BuckFan, you are both right. Watching replays of the games several times, he was close to breaking several kickoff returns for long gains and looked like he got stopped by an arm tackle or just ran past his blocker.
I think the QB from last year returns and 4 of 5 OLinemen return. Heard that somewhere this morning.
Having rewatched most of the games from the entire season (more than once), and comparing JT's last few games to Cardale's 3 games, I think Cardale clearly was the better of the two. You can make an argument that JT is better at the read option, or a better runner, but Cardale clearly has a set of skills, that when combined with this offense, were lethal. I was really amazed at his pocket awareness and how many times he knew where pressure was coming from and avoided the rush, only to make a nice play. Or was able to unleash a 50 yard pass with pressure in his face.
Zeke made the yards because he is one of the top 5 running backs in OSU history. The offensive line improved drastically and that certainly helped. Ed Warriner is a great coach. Cardale and the deep ball certainly helped. But if you look back over history, no matter the blocking or the QB, only a handful of guys gain those kind of yards - Archie, Eddie, Beanie, Maurice, Robert, and I am sure I am missing one or two.
Like the list, Zeke almost never misses the hole. When there is no hole, he still gets positive yards. When he does have a hole - look out. I remember watching the season in 2002. Clarett was hurt a lot, and every time they substituted, same play, same blocking, you just did not get the kind of production out of the running back as you did with Clarett. Enjoy Zeke while he is here and hope the next Zeke is already on thee team or in an upcoming recruiting class. Many of those huge holes that Zeke ran through, I guarantee you that many of the lesser backs miss the hole entirely.
Here's to Zeke having a season where his averages are 12 carries per game for 160 yards - because we are so far ahead that 2 or 3 other backs are getting carries and we are resting Zeke for the playoffs. Go Bucks!
I would like nothing better than to get to face (not Baylor) but TCU in the playoffs. ...and to beat TTUN.
DJ You hit the key to next year...our D is going to be very good. At the start of last year, it looked like it was going to be improved over the previous year, but still more of the same. It was frustrating watching VT complete 3rd down after 3rd down and we were unable to stop them. We got better throughout the year. It seemed like it finally all gelled against WI. I still have a hard time believing that game. AL would have been at least a 2 TD win except for two mistakes at the end of the game - really bad clock management and then our safety jumping the route and letting AL get that long completion. The D gave up 14 points in that game. I blame the rest on turnovers and that end-of-game-score. Same with OR. Our D pounded them until they wanted no more. They got 20 points but but our D kept them out of the end zone all night. If that effort carries over in to this year, this will be a truly special team.
After OSU/VT, the one I am most interested in is MN/TCU. I hope MN beats them just to shut up TCU for the rest of the year. I'm tired of hearing about how they should have been in the playoff (after a super weak schedule, and losing to Baylor, and not really even winning their own conference). I think MSU beats OR and I think AL crushes WI. So I think we are at least 2-2 and maybe 3-1. OSU/VT is not going to be a walk-in-the-park either - but I think in the end, we win by more than one score.
I think that is Bollman, not Warriner.
Well said James!
I am sick and tired of hearing about TCU. By any stretch of the imagination, they didn't even win the conference title! I said before the final rankings came out - if Baylor is chosen ahead of us, so be it, but they beat TCU in a head-to-head and TCU, if everyone wins out, should be ranked 6th. If OSU beats WI 28-24, Baylor was going to the playoff anyway, not TCU. I hope TCU does get into the playoff next year and we curb stomp them 70-3.
That might top the list! ...and especially to pull it off in the shit
Best I've ever heard it put!
Been an OSU fan since 1965 or 66 and I didn't really start following 11W or other recruiting and college football news sites until the recruitment of TPryor - and then not all that much. The last year that JT was here, I started following things more closely. I vividly remember all the arrogant um comments after the hokesters first year. They were trashing OSU at every opportunity and I remember them predicting quite a bit - a BCS Championship Bowl appearance. They started the year vs. Alabama in Dallas and the comments were no way we lose to it is going to be close. We remember the score and I remember I was very happy. They have continued to fall but it appears that the arrogance is little changed. They are ranked as the most delusional fanbase in sport for a good reason.
With all of that being said, they play out-of-their minds against us and jh will have them crazy. That will be a tough game for us - in fact, I think our toughest game of the season. We will more than likely be undefeated and they would like nothing more than a repeat of 1969.
Personally, I hope they struggle to finish .500 but with that schedule, they could win 10 games or more, meaning an upset somewhere. I love to go on their sites and just read the misery and delusion. I can't stand them and I hope we hang 70 on them with the last play of the game being a 70 yard H Back pass from BM to JT or Cardale.
Many similarities to 1969. Buckeyes and the super soph class coming off a dominating 1968 national championship run.
Cruise through the 69 season until they run into the skunk weasels who were like 8-3 entering the game. They played out of their minds that day and made us look bad. We also did not have the type of system at that time that could come back from being down. 2015 - New first year coach in aa, game in aa, have some confidence going in that even with hoke, they kept the games close - even last year, we were only up one score with 4 minutes left. They will be ready and they will play out of their minds. We will need to play our best game of the year.
I feel bad that someone is going to sit - after last year. Unless he has regressed, I think it is Cardale's to lose.
Thanks for the espy update. I started watching at the beginning and made it all of 5 minutes into it before switching and watching reruns of the office and then the NC game replay (for at least the 20th time.)
Agree - when Thomas leaves OSU, he will be remembered as one of the all-time greats - and I know we have had some great ones. He's big, he's fast, and he catches everything thrown at him.
Right on. Without the VT defeat, no way we win the NC. Things changed after that game - especially the play calling.
Exactly right. I was surprised when I saw our D against Wisc in the B1G championship game and I attributed our being able to stop them to them being one dimensional. Then came the Sugar Bowl. We were faster, stronger and better prepared than AL. If not for turnovers, and bad clock management at the end, AL probably only scores 14 points. Against OR we just beat the snot out of them. You could tell by the 4th qtr, they wanted no more of the Bucks D.
I think this year you are going to see some pretty great defensive efforts.
Lets give credit where credit is due - that was a good block. He will fit right in on the um offensive line. One good block every 4 or 5 plays. Will probably start as a freshman with these skills.
We need great receivers!
Best Assistant in college football. Hope he stays a long time.