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Who wins in the circle drill?

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TMac's picture

Epic battle, Neither would quit, or give an inch.... the winners would be the witnesses. 

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mobboss1984's picture

I want to go with Chris, but Andy was a freakish monstrous man.

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BKshepherd's picture

Not the size of the dog in the fight......I can't see Spielman being denied by anyone.

 

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Hovenaut's picture

Ditto. Katz athletically superior, but Spielman wins with head and heart.

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Agreed.  You would have to kill Spiels as the only way to get him to stop coming at you.

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vetcopDr's picture

I heard a radio interview by Eddie George (I think it was Eddie) talking about how strong The Big Kat was. Eddie said he was at the WHAC and the Big Kat grabbed him, picked him up, and rotated him upside down. Eddie said the kid was scary strong and powerful. I wish I could remember more about that interview. Did anyone else ever hear the interview where Eddie was talking about talking about what a beast The Big Kat was? The context had something to do with how well some the past great OSU linebackers would do defending the current college offenses. Eddie talked about how todays linebackers have a much more difficult job and have to be able to play in space. Great interview if you can find it… Maybe it was on Mark Packers show.

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Buckeyeneer's picture

My heart says Katzenmoyer, but my brain says Spielman. That is based on me not being an avid bucknut during the Spielman days and just seeing his NFL career. If not for the neck injuries, Kat at the beginning of his career and Spielman toward the end, who knows what their NFL careers would have looked like.

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RBuck's picture

Low man wins...Spiels.

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VintonCountyBuck's picture

Spiels had his own Wheaties Box in high-school... Game over

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CGroverL's picture

Yeah...well so did Mary Lou Retton. On top of that this drill is all about power and leverage...and Kat was bigger and stronger than Spielman....yeah....Game Over!  Spielman would last longer against Kat than Mary Lou would have, but not by much. This drill is not about tackling, Spielman should be the underdog. I can't believe that the majority (as of now) is picking Spielman. Katzenmoyer would eat Mary Lou Retton and Chris Spielman before taking both of their Wheaties boxes..........

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VintonCountyBuck's picture

Please..  Katzenmoyer couldn't stop Curtis Enis.  He has no chance against Mary Lou.  Lol

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CGroverL's picture

Kat could beat Spielman 7 out of 10 tries in my opinion. Now, if this was Kat vs. Spielman in open field tackling, I'd surely take Spielman. Thanks for trying to have some fun, anyway.....it is so friggin long before we see Buckeye football again. When I read "Wheaties" I had to mention Mary Lou. God help me.

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CGroverL's picture

Kat could beat Spielman 7 out of 10 tries in my opinion. Now, if this was Kat vs. Spielman in open field tackling, I'd surely take Spielman. Thanks for trying to have some fun, anyway.....it is so friggin long before we see Buckeye football again. When I read "Wheaties" I had to mention Mary Lou. God help me.

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VintonCountyBuck's picture

Yes..  It is a long offseason.  And I am just trying to have fun.  

I think inherently the "circle-drill" favors the offensive player, simply due to the fact that it's more about leverage and technique than it is about strength.  Your right..it is not a tackling drill.  And, yes, I know neither of these men were offensive players.

Desire also plays a large part in it as well.  Hence, the reason I picked Speils.

In my lifetime as a Buckeye fan, I have seen very very few players have the desire and determination that Speilman had each and every time out.  But of course, just my opinion.  +2 for the double posts..  Haha

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TossTrap's picture

I love Spiels, but The Big Kat was the best I ever saw.

It would be insanely fun if someone created a sophisticated computer graphics program to would let us see these circle drill match-ups.

First and goal at the five and Arch is getting the ball.

Osurrt's picture

Two of my all-time favorite Buckeyes. I have to go with the Big Kat though. He was massive in size and strength and that wins out in this drill. Spiels had the heart of a warrior that made him special. Big Kat by a nose.

aphill89's picture

The Big Kat is just so physically superior, but you gotta think Spiels would be far more relentless and just not back down.

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CGroverL's picture

If this was more of an "open field tackling" drill, my vote would have gone to Spielman...but this is a circle drill where the object is to go straight ahead, low and as hard as you can. Katzemoyer has the edge.

Yeah...my vote goes to Katzenmoyer.

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lamplighter's picture

Spielman - no contest

SilverBullet-98's picture

Both where great, both where very physical but in this drill I think Katzenmoyer is better suited to win.

Just on this drill. Andy's tackling technique should be taught in video to youths across the country.

Both where gifted athletes, Chris was more cerebral, durable, high motor. Andy could scare the opposing team and change the momentum of a game with 1 powerful hit, i.e.vs Mizzou 97.

 

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BKshepherd's picture

Silverbullet98,

As impressive as that hit was, kids should not be taught to lead with the helmet as Big Kat did in that play.  Today, he might even get called for targeting on that hit.  In fact, kids are taught to keep the head up and tackle through the runner.  Kat did tackle through, but he shouldn't have led with the crown of his helmet.