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Are you over the Michigan State loss?



rkylet83's picture

No, that one will sting for a while.  A win over Clemson will make it a bit better, but this game feels like 1996, 1998 and 2003 to me.  

Baroclinicity's picture

I don't know.  This can't come close to 1998 in my opinion.  I have never felt as strongly about an Ohio State team before or since from the preseason on.  There was not a better team in the country that year, and I don't think it was close.  It was ours to lose.
1996 and 2003, I agree with those.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

rkylet83's picture

1998 was by far the worst, because it was such a complete team.  Probably the worst regular season loss I can remember.
For me this game sucks, because I felt we really gave this one away.  We could do what we wanted, but couldn't get out of our own way.      

joel121270's picture

Yep, 98 is was terrible and I still say we 1. Shoulda have been in the nc but then it was Florida bias and 2. We were hands down the best team I'm the country. Agree as wel a more complete team.

rkylet83's picture

I've always wondered how much losing the FSU the previous years Sugar Bowl had to do with it.

bucknut3011's picture

Right on.  That '98 team was the best all-around OSU team I have ever seen.  I was at the MSU game that year -- we could have and should have won.  The difference were a handful of key mistakes.  That's just the way it went.
This year's team just does not have the championship defense.  One of the most prolific offenses, but defense wins the championships (ref 2002).  I'm over this year's loss because of that, and it showed in the B1G championship.
Frankly, I'm still not over the '98 loss.

4thandinches's picture

The 98 game was the day Saban sold his soul to satan.

I wasn't born a Buckeye but I became one as fast as I could. 

97Buckeye's picture

It doesn't still sting because I had felt for a while that we were living on borrowed time with the way our defense was playing. If we walk into the Clemson game and nothing has been corrected defensively, then I'll be more upset for this one.

Hovenaut's picture


Looking at the big picture, the positives.

This team, with that defense, ran off 24 straight wins. There is a very bright future ahead.

MSU was a better team that night, they have a team (and a head coach) I respect.

I've moved on.

We have filled the Braxton Miller position.

wpitt41's picture

Well said! This year we just weren't a complete team. But look on the bright side ^^^, plus the BRIGHT BRIGHT future.  You know you're a Buckeye when a 1 loss regular season is a let-down.  Boy it feels good to be a Buckeye despite the loss! Now, get the ball rolling again with a beat down on Clemson!


TMac's picture

Define over. I mean I'm able to get out of bed, take nourishment, have semi-intelligent it's not some devastating emotionally crippling loss, but it stings knowing how close we were to being able to play for the last BS National Championship (No that wasn't a typo) in a game I truly think we could have won. 

ONE Not Done!

InvertMyVeer's picture

I'll get over it on November 8th, 2014.

Football is complicated...

Bucksfan's picture

Yup.  This team wasn't a behemoth juggernaut in every facet of the game like the '98 and '06 teams.  Even with the special teams gaffes of the 2010 team, that loss to Wisconsin in Madison still stings.  The 2013 team's pass defense was atrocious.  Anyone thinking that it wouldn't come back to bite them in the ass were simply watching a different team all year.  I was pretty upset at first, but Florida State was built to torch the shit out of any defense, let alone the undisciplined defenses like Ohio State's and Clemson's.  Of all the teams in contention to go to the national title, I thought Florida State presented the worst matchup.
So, I'm over it.  I'm actually more annoyed we missed out on the Rose Bowl, but Ohio State losing to the wrong team at the wrong time is not new to me.  It seems to happen every year that the Buckeyes lose one game, and it knocks them out of both the national title and the Rose Bowl.

IBleedSandG's picture

Almost over it, but there is still some pain.


ScarletNGrey01's picture

A loss to our best opponent over the past two years, not winning the B1G Championship and losing out on a chance to play in the NC?  Hell yeah it still hurts and will years from now.  But I think the future of the program is bright, In Urban I Trust, and will support the buckeyes though thick and thin as always ... you gotta be true to your school.  As others have posted a win over Clemson will help the healing process.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

It ruined the streak, and a chance for a nc. I'll never get fully over it.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

airbuckeye's picture

I answered No because i was not upset over it to begin with. I was laughing all the way through it and enjoying the hell out watching them lose.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I'm really off my game. Is this sarcasm?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'm guessing he misread the poll question - thought it was asking if he was over TTUN's loss in the BWW Bowl. Otherwise, he's taking the masochistic fan experience to depths we've never seen before. 

airbuckeye's picture

Thats what i thought it was about them losing in the Bowl Game because i was was not even looking or did not notice the State after the word M my bad. But No im still not over that lose yet because it brings back the lose in 98.
And i had just had a triple bypass two weeks before that game so i had to set there and take it with out getting upset. But this time i was screaming at the tv and yelling at the coaches for not running Hyde.

BullCityBuckeye's picture

Yes, I am over it.  
However, here is another vote for the 1998 loss stinging a lot more.  I still wince a bit thinking about the outcome of that game for all the reasons presented above. 

Bucks43201's picture

Nope, and still not completely over the '98 Sparty loss.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

Bamabucknut's picture

Because the causes of the loss are still in place.

RedStorm45's picture

Blessing in disguise.  Now we can't get embarrassed in the natty.

Jack Fu's picture

So much this. FSU would have pulverized this defense.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Yeah. I'm so glad Ohio State lost. Because losing to FSU was automatic. :/

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Jack Fu's picture

I'm not saying I'm "glad" OSU lost, but this realization sure as shit helped me "get over" it.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Why do you act as if FSU winning was a given?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Jack Fu's picture

Nothing is a given. But the way our defense has been playing, the odds of a (THIRD) blowout loss in the national championship game were pretty goddamn high.

OSUBias's picture

You have to admit it is hard to see the bright side of our defense (the same defense that gave up 300+ passing yards to MSU, who averaged just over 200 for the season) going against the Heisman Trophy winning QB who is averaging over 320 yards per game.
The whole "with a month to prepare our staff with figure out how to gameplan for it" is overplayed for this defense. We have had 4 months of season to fix it and haven't found a way.
Our only chance against FSU would be in a shootout win. And while that isn't completely out of the question, our offense seems to stumble a bit down the stretch with balance while theirs just kept putting up huge numbers.
I also don't buy the underdog comparison to UM's UF team from '06. That team was always tough on defense, they just had a tough time getting consistent offensive output.
So no, it's not a given that FSU would have won. But they would have been huge favorites, and when was the last OSU team that won a non conf game as a large underdog? Rose Bowl '09 I think we were 3-4 point dogs, that's the closest point of comparison I can think of. Unlikely, given this team's shortcomings, that we would have pulled out a W.

Shitter's full

Youngbuck85's picture

Not anywhere close to being over it

Brandon26841's picture

During the game it was pretty upsetting of course since we all knew what was at stake, but I was surprisingly over it about an hour later. I swear I'm not just saying this, but I honestly just had a bad feeling about that game and was half expecting a loss anyway; there was just so much on the line for Ohio State and Michigan State had literally nothing to lose. But mainly, as others have said, the loss was coming sooner or later with the way the defense was playing and I felt that way all season long. Having seen them give up 1,465 yards in their last three games I was feeling pretty pessimistic. 
It also saved OSU from potentially getting blown out in the NGC. I didn't feel good about that matchup in the least bit. Florida State would have shredded the defense, and their defense isn't much worse than Michigan States. May have been a blessing in disguise.

Maestro's picture

I am certainly not over it, but there is also a part of me that is glad Winston cannot embarrass the Bucks secondary with the entire nation watching.

vacuuming sucks

OSUBias's picture

Yes and no.
Yes, because I don't actually think this version of the Buckeyes is one of the top 2 teams in the country, and FSU provided a very bad matchup for us (as others have noted).
No because in spite of the first paragraph, I despise losing. I hate when teams I root for lose. It stings more because we played arguably our worst game of the season in the most important game. I thought MSU played well, but didn't do anything extraordinary. The didn't stop our power run game, we went away from it. We let them get off to an amazing start with a few dumbs penalties and get their legs under them, and then once we got the lead in the 2nd half we went away from what was working on offense and the defense gave up a huge drive on a long run (very uncharacteristic for this year's defense, as bad as they were). It was like a bizarro version of the team that had won 12 straight this season. Without the uniforms, I would have thought I was watching Baylor or some other spread team;certainly not OSU.

Shitter's full

3cent's picture

I am still not over the MSU loss from 1998 let alone this season's loss.

MichaelJ721984's picture

I woke up the morning after and was over it. Which is VERY weird for me. I guess subconsciously I knew what Winston would do to the D (didn't want to admit it though!) I am however very excited for the seniors and underclassmen that are leaving to get the chance to go out with a W in a big game!

Michigan sucks.

yrro's picture

No, just because it's the first away loss I've been to. Was sick as a dog the whole time, too. Just a miserable trip all around.

RBuck's picture

Yes. Only because it's game week and we're in a BCS bowl.

Long live the southend.

SPreston2001's picture

Nope still not over it... We were the better team and just gave that game away. I firmly believe Hyde could have converted on that last crucial possession. I love Brax but hes no where near the physical runner Hyde is. I still cant believe they didnt call Hydes number. I think everybody watching the game thought Hyde was getting the ball on 4th and short....

Crumb's picture

I'm thankful for the good run we had of 24 straight, I'm glad it wasn't that team up north that snapped the winning streak, I respect Sparty and Coach Dantonio and wish them luck in the Rose Bowl, but that being said I feel like we beat ourselves in that game so I don't think I'm gonna be completely over it until we bounce back with a win.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

DannyBeane's picture

I'm 96% over it. Honestly I was only pissed for about a week. 

luckynutz's picture

No...because it brought back the awful images of that 98 loss. Still not really over that one. I know its been 15 years...but ill be damned if I can ever wash away the disappointment of one of the best buckeye teams I've personally seen go down like that. Just...ugh..and the fact that the coaching staff as a whole crapped the bed in the 4th quarter of this one makes it hard to ever really find closure. I don't for one second believe it was anything they did that won the game...aside from scoring more points.

CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

No.  I will never be "over it."  I appreciate the great things this team has done, but that one will sting forever, just like the NC losses and the 98 loss to Sparty. 
We have a very good team.  They still have a chance to do something great by winning the Orange Bowl! 
Go Bucks!  Bring it home!!

Brutus's picture

This loss, like a few of the more notable losses mentioned above, is like herpes.  You never really get over it. You can go for long stretches of time without thinking about it, but then without any warning you'll be reminded of it again and the pain starts anew. There's a medicine for herpes at least. The only effective method I've found for dealing with a heartbreaking loss is repeatedly stabbing my arm with a pen. But don't worry, I don't break skin.

Poison nuts's picture

I've moved on, but I'll never be "over" any OSU loss really. 
edit: lol to Brutus above. I didn't see your post when I made mine, but the notion that you're never fully over it is something we definitely agree on. Btw - you have herpes too? 

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

funky123's picture

Yes because the Bucks were beat on the field and on the sideline. So it wasn't too hard for me to move on. 

Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

I knew the loss was coming at some point. It was either the B1G title or national title game. Our secondary is too weak to continue the winning streak. Hopefully we have cleaned things up and we can beat Clemson. 

Brutus1972's picture

I'm over the loss, just not over the continuous lack of execution on the defensive side of the ball. How someone was not fired mid season is still a mystery to me.

Swayze's picture

H-E-Double Hockey sticks NO I'm not over it.

ScarletGray43157's picture

Yes.  Win or lose, you have to move on.  Learn from it, and improve, and move on.

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

Youngbuck85's picture

Good thing were not alabama fans, or else all the people that voted yes would have been shot...