PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Where's the Rich Rod option?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
That was a nice diversion but I'd rather thrash them when they are competitive!
Meh. Every time M*chigan loses/almost loses, the fans still try to blame Rich Rod. That or it's Borges. It's never blamed on Hoke.
What's the difference?
I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
Les Miles has won a national championship.
He's also won a conference title.
Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of God.
He's far better if comedy is your thing and he prefers greens over doughnuts. As in grass.
And hoke is classier.
I like respect in the rivalry and I couldn't respect Miles. I think is making them a good team and I like to beat good Michigan teams. They need a taste of the cooper years in reverse.
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
It depends on what you're looking for. The coach who will be easier to beat long term? I think Miles. The coach who would respect the rivalry better? Hoke. Miles would not compete as well without the southern recruiting base. No way he would pull kids the way Hoke currently is to Michigan. Also, he's not an elite game-planner or X&O guy. Every time I watch LSU win, I think he's no different a coach now than he was at Okie State. He just has better athletes now. And he inherited a good set up from Saban.
Ask me this question in four years. I picked Hoke, but only because he's relatively unproven. The dude seems to be as good of a recruiter as Miles (and Urban, as well, which blows me away) but without his trademark "Riverboat Gambler" mentality (props to BTalbert, whose analogy I stole). As of now, I think the difference lies in immediate impact: Miles would've been a rock star, while Hoke's entrance was more low-key (though he certainly made an immediate impact on recruiting).
If Michigan had hired Miles, he'd have won a Big Ten title by now; but I don't think they'd be anywhere near as set up for the long term as Hoke's making them. His job in the recruiting field cannot be understated.
The dude seems to be as good of a recruiter as Miles (and Urban, as well, which blows me away)
I think M*chigan's success recruiting has more to do with Mattison than Hoke.
Entirely plausible. But nonetheless, it's Hoke who hired Mattison, and Hoke who's responsible for the culture which attracts those recruits.
That whole "family atmosphere" that stole Winovich and other recruits away from us? That's all Hoke. And while he might not be the micro-managing mastermind that guys like Urban and Saban are, he's developed a pretty formidable niche market for top-tier recruits.
If/when he puts it all together, it'll make for some very interesting times in the Big Ten.
I watched Hoke at Ball State at a distance and at San Diego State up close, and he's legit, not only at recruiting but also at staff management/delegation. When the UM job opened up, his star was just really starting to climb here in SD, and I figured they'd go after him. At that time I was really torn - Jim Harbaugh (low probability because of his image on campus), Hoke (worried me and will continue to) or someone else (young stud, Miles, or someone else - crap shoot)?
"You might outsmart me, but you'll never outwork me"
Wayne Woodrow Hayes
I lived in Muncie, IN for a while so i paid attention to Hoke while he was at Ball State. I believe that they went 11-0 in 2007 before he left to go to San Diego State. After he left, they lost to Buffalo in the MAC Championship and lost their bowl game. He is a fantastic coach and will be good for the rivalry.
I think Miles's success with recruiting has more to do with the state of Louisiana.
Teamvote guys... Donuts or corndogs.
In all seriousness I prefer the fighting Hokesters to the fighting Miles'. Not only does it sounds cooler but Hoke seems to have a better piece of noggin on his shoulders. He actually suspends players as needed, embraces the rivalry, and offers us a punching bag. Miles, well I just dont have respect for the guy, but that could fall back on the culture of the league he plays in.
Nothing like dancing on the field in 02...
What kind of donuts?
This morning its a mixed box from Busken.
I'd rather have their frosted sugar cookies.
Les Miles easily. He made a great UM squad that couldn't beat Tressel.
Either will do.
I vote for Gary Moeller.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Anyone but Harbaugh
^ What TEDDYBALLGAME said...
Flounder (Hoke) for sure. But only because he is more unproven. I don't see a huge gap in coaching ability between the two. But only time will tell that for sure.
Downvote me for this all you want, but I kind of like Hoke as a person. He seems like is probably a pretty cool guy to know. Since he's the HC of TTUN, I hate his guts of course. But as a person, he seems like he'd be way nicer than Miles or even Rodriguez or Carr.
I love this question. Its gotta be beefo Brady Hoke, purely from an entertainment standpoint. It is simply way too much fun to make fun of him. Miles is just a scUMbag.
Not even close.
Jim Harbaugh would make for some awesome battles with Meyer.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
Voted for Hoke... he is easy to make jokes at because of the girth but I think he's a solid coach.
Also, I can't see where Hoke would recruit a sex offender then when said sex offender broke a rule leave it up to the team whether or not to kick him of the team or not.
Voted for Hoke.
Knowing Miles is known for his major luck overcoming his coaching ability, this in combination with the dozens of jump balls scUM throws per game would scare me.
Voted for miles on the grounds I would feel even more justified for taking them to the woodshed. He's somehow despicable in a way you can't quite put a finger on (unless the team votes on it) so methinks the rivalry would get even more heated.
Hoke I dislike with his 'Ohio' attempt at disdain but can't really hate the guy. Perhaps it is just my love for donuts or all those years of syndicated Gillian's Island...
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