#2 goes to Rolle. He was on the small side, but played larger than his size. Kind of like Speilman.
Ross Homan was an animal in the middle. Not the fastest player in the world, but he was a sure tackler and brought the wood. Very underated and reminded me a lot of Anthony Schlegel
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Also voted Homan. Incredibly underrated. We in fact need more like he and Schlegel.
Wasn't Homan injured in that game against Wisconsin in 2010?
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I believe so. Sweat filled in for him, I think, and had a pick.
Very much agreed. Loved ross homan. Dude just always seemed to be in the right spot at the right time. May not have been flashy, but was solid. Shazier is exciting, and will probably be the best of this bunch by the time he leaves. But homans body of work overall is better at this point in time.
This is a debate between RDS and Rolle (no offense to the other guys; Homan and Freeman were definitely good). Even with Rolle's sideline-to-sideline speed and ability, I have to give the nod to Shazier. He has had an impact at LB like we haven't seen since Laurenitus.
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If this question were asked next year this time, I think it's undoubtedly going to be Shazier - but right now I'm giving the nod to Rolle.
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Agree with this 100%. I think you ask this question end of the season it is Shazier easily, but Rolle was the man for two seasons on two of the best defenses we've had here.
I wouldn't call Rolle "THE man" in those defenses. Homan had more tackles, sacks, int's and forced fumbles while he was nominated a team captain. Rolle just made some plays that stand out in people's minds.
Tough choice, and it almost seams like I based my answer for Shazier on the potential for his career.
I don't think it's a crazy thought to put him at the top right now, just hope he hasn't reached his peak and he's still getting better.
RDS....... and it's not even close. Rolle got destroyed against Wisky.
The entire defense was shredded during that game. Hard to pin it on Rolle.
Rolle also completely stifled one of the best offenses in the country against Oregon.
You both make good points..... but I think Shazier is miles better than anyone else on that list, and he's not even done yet.
Based off potential Shazier is better but no way his resume is better than Rolles at this point.
Shazier got destroyed by Cal....
RDS....... and it's not even close. Rolle got destroyed against Wisky.
If you think "it's not even close"..you are either a new fan or clueless(or both).
Well, you swung and whiffed on both guesses. Nice try though.
I admit I'm making my claim with a nod towards "potential," but i'm also saying it on pure ability. Shazier is the only one out of the group above that has the ability to make game-changing plays on a consistent basis, and dominate a game by himself.
I'm not knocking the other guys at all..... I just think Shazier's that much better.
I voted Homan although I think Shazier will end up being better.
RDS is just a screaming ball of angry and is so much fun to watch.
RDS will be it next year, but as of right now it is so Rolle. Here is a reminder for those of you who don't remember,
and its not like that was his only highlight during his whole career, just the difference maker IMO!
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On a serious level:
most productive/best stats- Ross Homan
Biggest/strongest- Marcus Freeman
Best talent/best pro potential- Ryan Shazier
Best leader- Brian Rolle
Smartest- Andrew Sweat
Best physique- Ross Homan
Hardest Hitter- Ryan Shazier
Most recruited/ coveted- Marcus Freeman
Smallest - Brian Rolle
That should about cover it...
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Wow, I've got to say I'm surprised at these results. I think Shazier ends up at the top of that list, but we've really only seen a half-season of high-level play out of him. I would put several of the guys on the list ahead of him at this point.
I voted for Rolle.
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Rolle right now - but it'll will be Shazier by a mile after this season. I voted Shazier based on potential, but truth is, as of now - he has only one legit season under his belt. Rolle had a good career & came up big a number of times when it counted.
Rolle allday. But like others I think Shazier will take the top spot by seasons end. When I think of Marcus Freeman all I can remember is him getting cooked on a wheel route vs USC when they blew us out...
Can the 7 people that voted for Sweat please share some of what they're smoking?
I have a few correction. FREEMAN was the most productive. Had 268 tackles, 21.5 tfl 6 sacks 15 pass breakups, 2 FF, 1 FR.
Homan had 253 tackles, 17 tfl 7 Int's( yes 7!) 2 FF's.
Rolle- 202 tackles, 20 tfl, 4 int's.
Those that say Rolle is head and shoulders above Homan and Freeman aren't very informed or just like the guy more. He was definitly the most "exciting" of the 3 but I wouldn't say "best".
You can't always judge players, esp defensive players, off of their stat line. First off, Rolle was a 2 year starter while Homan and Freeman were 3 year starters, thus the reason they have "better" stats. Second, what make some defensive players special is their leadership or how they step up and make big plays at key situations ala Brian Rolle. Third, Rolle is the only one of the three to have any sort of pro career.
All that being said, Freeman was my personal favorite but I have to go with Rolle as the best/most important to the team's success.
I understand what you're saying..but who is a better pro really doesn't equal who was the better Buckeye LB. I mean look at Troy Smith and Maurice Clarett..or Brian Robiskie compared to Brian Hartline etc.
Stats do mean alot when you're talking about LB's..Nose Guard or something like that I could see it not mattering obviously. Homan also had better stats because he played more and BEAT out Rolle for a starting spot in 2008..that says something.
Either way they were a heck of a tandom during 2009-2010.
Freeman isn't the most popular choice, but I always felt that he was a solid LB and seems to have the best career stats out of the group (Homan had more tackles, but spread over 5 years, I believe).
Obviously, RSD should surpass all of those and be the best, but it's tough to award him that after just 1 full season.
EDIT - BuckeyeJason - I think you covered basically what I was just going for as well. Not sure I'm remembering everything quite the same as some others. I liked Rolle a lot, but Freeman should be a heckuva lot more than a 5% vote in my opinion.
Ryan Shazier is the best at getting to the ball quick. However, even though I voted for him, I can see great qualities in these other LBs that he lacks. For instance...wrapping when he brings the wood would be nice. However...the hit on Monte Ball was a perfectly timed hit. Probably won the game for OSU.
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Still trying to figure out how Christian Bryant didn't take that to the house.
Because the center (#72) was blown up by Mr. Garrett Goebel & company. Had Goebel not done such a great job of stuffing the line then it probably goes for 6.
Wisconsin's line is also really good at holding jerseys
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I was always partial to Freeman myself. I think before its all said and done, Shazier will go down in the OSU pantheon of great linebackers. Not in the Carpenter, Rolle, Homan sort of way. He can be in the Spiels, Hawk, Laurinitis history book. That only happens if the brain matches the body. Not that he isn't a smart player he just needs to play a little more in control. What's scary about Shazier is that he doesn't really look like he knows what he's doing. I can't shake the comparison to Brian Urlacher early in his career with the Bears. Urlacher had no idea what he was doing in the middle for the Bears his first 2 years and basically just out 'athleted' everyone. Once 'Lach put it together and combined great physical tools with an understanding of his defense, he became truly great. Shazier has that in him as well. He is already a phenomenal athlete who is out athleting people. Only towards the end of the year was he playing linebacker, not athlete. I really look forward to the next step in his progression next year-which is probably his last in CBus.
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Couldn't agree more Brew
Ross was a blue collar linebacker in every sense of the word, and my favorite out of those listed. Nothing real flashy, just a guy that went to work every game that he played in. Shazier has my hopes up about as high as they've been for a long time. I think that he's really a special player and has a chance to make "the list" when his time at tOSU is over.
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