PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
The new junior college transfer...what's his name? Somebody help me out here.
That dude is experienced and ready to play. Not going to say he's going to be Braxton's go-to guy, but I bet he is one of the top receivers.
You're thinking of 4-star WR and JuCo transfer Corey Smith, and you make a good point - not sure why he wasn't included in the poll, because he could definitely be an immediate impact.
We try to limit the poll to a max of 5 or 6 selections and with "other" taking a slot, I simply ran out of room. I contemplated putting Corey Smith in there instead of Evan Spencer and left off Michael Thomas completely. I guess I saw it as semantics at that point because in my own mind, the only three truly legit options were Philly, Hall and Devin Smith when you're talking about leading the team in receiving yards.
I could be dead wrong, obviously. I just don't see a Juco coming in and immediately being the #1 guy when Braxton has had a lot more time to develop chemistry with those guys, and others. In hindsight, he could've been on there instead of Marshall. I'd love nothing more than for Corey Smith to blow up though.
Great point, Chris, and I concur: Philly, Hall and Smith will be the big guns this season. Philly is that consistent "go-to guy" who will get a lot of touches, Devin is the homerun hitter who hopefully will overcome last season's occasional case of the dropsies, and Hall should flourish in his new role.
My hope for Corey Smith (God we have too many Coreys and Smiths in this lineup) is that his experience on the field at the collegiate level proves to be a major asset to a receiving corps that needs to step up every bit as the team's passer-in-chief.
I thought that was his name, but didn't want to look stupid. At 48, I forget a lot of stuff. Corey Smith.
I think he's going to make a HUGE impact. Thanks Andy. ;)
Corey Smith, maybe?
I wouldn't be surprised if he led the team. I picked "other" with him in mind.
I went with Philly Brown because he's more consistent at catching than Devin Smith and clearly has more experience than Jalin Marshall. Jordan Hall though is a big question mark.
Agreed. I picked Devin Smith, but if we're using last year as a measuring stick - your right. Unfortunately, for every pig play he had, he drop a simple pass. Philly on the other hand came on strong toward the end of the year. I would say Philly for the reasons you mention.
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I don't think Jordan Hall is going to have the benefit of a lot of down the field routes, I think he'll be more of a dump off or underneath curl-back option. He'll have to get his yards as YAC.
The Smiths, Spencer and Philly will be down the sideline options.
Jalin will needs to show me he will get playing time before I can choose him. Freshmen gonna fresh.
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I think Urban wants to get Jordan Hall the ball "in space" and the best way to do that is to throw him the ball. Good defenses may be able to stop Braxton's & Carlos's running game somewhat. They might also be able to keep the wide-outs from getting down field too. But I don't think they can do all that and prevent an elusive JH from catching short passes that turn into big gainers.
I think it's possible that Hall gets plenty of YAC (is it YAC or YACs, this is the same arguement as RBIs isn't it?), but I just think the deep threat edge guys will get more. I do want to say that I think Hall will get a lot of TD catches from inside the redzone. He'll be a good dump down in the flat as Braxton is rolling opposite field, turn around and dump it to Hall or Hyde out of the back field.
Devin Smith w/ the deep ball.
I voted for Philly b/c I think he is the most steady WR on the team and he'll probably lead the team in grabs again. Philly also show towards the end of the year, a little "wiggle' and the ability to get some YAC. He and Brax really seem to have a good feel for each other.
I wouldn't be surprised if Devin Smith lead the team in rec yds b/c of his big play ability. If he gets more consistent and makes the easy catches, I could see him easily leading the WRs in yards.
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That's why i voted for Philly. He's likely going to be our leading receiver in terms of total catches which gives him the greatest chance to lead in total yards as a result. Smith, Hall, and Marshall may have the chance to hit the home run in space, but Philly will just have more opportunities, imo.
Can I ask you why you didn't upvote him?
I'm not trying to pick on you, but I see this all the time where someone replies with something along the lines of "You said what I wanted to say" or "I agree" etc. which is the equivalent of what the upvote is supposed to mean, but there is no upvote. Granted sometimes it is because the replier doesn't have 100 stickers and can't vote, but not always.
I almost feel like getting a response should get the person a helmet sticker, like if they wrote something that sparked a reply, it probably deserves an upvote.
Not to jump into someone else's conversation, but for many of us, it seems, the helmet sticker upvote is much more than a "like" on Facebook. For me, at least (thought I suspect Unky has a similar paradigm), the upvote signifies that the comment was noteworthy, be that because it was funny, insightful, clever, rather well-written, etc.
Sometimes you agree with someone and want to add your voice or commentary to their thoughts, though what they said may or may not have risen to the level of being "noteworthy." If you said "Braxton Miller is an awesome quarterback," for example, I would definitely agree, but the comment would not be worthy of my upvote.
If, on the other hand, you offered a succinct analysis of some scintillating attribute of the Buckeyes' signal-caller that caused me to say "Wow, I didn't realize that," or "Man, he really is that good," upvotes away, my friend.
Hopefully that adds a certain something to the discussion (plus, don't be surprised if someone downvotes you for calling a poster out for not upvoting something - people get touchy about that sort of thing).
Well I understand that. I know not everyone is going to have to same philosophy on upvotes. I also know that "what you said is exactly what I wanted to say" or "I agree and want to add..." are two different things, but to me, the former is textbook deserves an upvote for everyone all the time (or it should be) and the latter probably deserves an upvote in most people's upvote policy. It was noteworthy enough to warrant a response, but not an upvote?
I know not everything should get an upvote, but it doesn't hurt. You don't have a limit on them. They shouldn't be so precious is all I'm saying. Also more upvotes is only going to cheapen downvotes, and hopefully limit the outrage every time someone gets one.
I'm one who definitely tends to err on the side of giving more of the upvote than of the downvote. See, I just did it again. Happy commenting, my friend.
Thanks for contributing to my tangent, I just always campaign for more upvoting/less stingyness with upvotes.
I see it all the time where someone gets a reply, and really positive or negative, to me, that means it should also get an upvote. If the comment riles you up enough to make the effort to reply, doesn't take much more to click the up arrow.
You are correct, Andy. We've had multiple conversations so you know where I'm probably coming from. I'll upvote things that can make me laugh instantly or if I think it's insanely clever. I'll also upvote for posts that deserve some congratulatory praise and an upvote is a great way to do that. As for other comments that aren't meant for humor or a congratulations, I'm looking for someone who provides information behind their post. Simply agreeing with a post, for me at least, doesn't warrant an upvote. As you said, any positive comment about OSU will be agreed with, but it doesn't mean that it's upvote worthy, in my opinion. Some people think differently and upvote more often, which is great for them, but I like substance and insight behind the post and I don't think that every post that I agree with deserves it solely for that reason.
As for my reply to the OP, he made multiple comments on several WR's and all I did was say that I voted for Philly for a similar reason. So I shared his view on 1 part of his comment. I guess you can say I agree with him; I say we just share a same viewpoint. It's semantics really, but just how I see it. No worries though.
And I'm not trying to attack you specially, I don't think you took it that way, but want to be sure. I see it a lot and I just finally decided to start pointing it out, bring some attention to it instead of stewing silently at my computer.
I know everyone sees upvotes differently, but it seems to me that a comment that makes people reply and join a conversation is upvote worthy. It is the exact kind of post that we should want to encourage around here if a) you actually read it and b) you felt compelled to reply. Like I said above, if it was noteworthy enough to make you think, "I have something to add to that" you should throw that person an upvote for commenting in a way that makes you feel that way. And not just positive, "I agree and would like to elaborate" replies. I think the same goes for "I respect your opinion but disagree because..." replies, almost more so deserve upvotes.
Oh, I didn't take that as an attack on me. Don't worry about that. I just wanted to comment back considering I was the original subject at hand and give insight, although Andy pretty much explained it.
It just basically comes down to all of us having our own view on what deserves upvotes and what doesn't. It's all opinion based and doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong for how they use their upvote privileges.
Glad you didn't take it as an attack and glad you indulged me with an open discussion about it. I respect everyone having their own thing with upvotes, I just wish people would open up a little more, be more liberal with them. They don't cost money or anything. I know there are too many people out there that get too hung up over downvotes, which aren't going away, but would be less important if there were more ups. I see no problems with too many upvotes. I don't think them becoming similar to Facebook likes as Andy mentioned above would necessarily be a bad thing. I just hate seeing some one line joke and a bunch of gifs being the only things that get upvoted. A comment, as normal and everyday as it is, like the one you replied to, is the kind of comment that keeps us coming back. If the place became only gifs and one liners, it wouldn't be very fun. And I don't think everything you simply agree with should get upvoted, just things that are more than just agreeing, things that reach the level of making you reply seems to me like it's worth of an up.
If I can convince just a few people to upvote a little more liberally because of this tangent that I'm sure very few people even noticed, than I'm happy.
Philly is the easy answer but I think Devin will be a more complete receiver this year and lead the pack.
It depends on Braxton's vision, I think. It seems like he got so comfortable with Smith and Brown last season that he would look for them at times when there were other guys open. At other times he made a concerted effort to look for Evan Spencer and the like, but as his reads progress, his vision of the field will as well, hopefully. If Corey Smith gets open like many think he has the tools to do immediately, and Miller gets him looks, I think he has as deep ball and YAC ability to lead the yards category. If Braxton starts to lock on his trusted few, I would say Philly Brown will lead.
michael thomas, although i was tempted to pick devin smith
I like football
Devin Smith- throw the ball deep take the top off the defense
I picked Philly, but I hope it is someone else. i figure if another player leads, we will be in great shape (assuming a group of healthy receivers).
I could see Philly getting more receptions, but Devin Smith will lead with yards due to his deep threat/ability to create separation.
I voted the way I did due to the chemistry Braxton has with Philly (and the fact that he'll catch just about anything thrown his direction). That's not saying that other WRs won't see a boost in production (I actually think there will be better distribution of the ball this year) but in a pinch, I still think Brown is still Miller's go-to guy.
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Nothing more than a hunch, but I went with Jordan Hall. I see him as the grizzled vet, thankful for another opportunity after the medical redshirt, ready to flourish in a new position and system.
i picked philly brown because he had been very consistent over the last season. however, i do see Jordan hall has the highest YAC.
I keep hoping for Tim's son to breakout
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