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Love Doss, but Hawk is perfect for what ails this defense. Or Laurinitis. Or Homan.
We have a couple 5* at linebacker, yet I think having AJ Hawk would help this D the most. Go figure the recruiting agencies.
We need linebackers to show up badly! Laurinaitis or Hawk
Any middle linebacker that can go sideline to sideline and actually wrap up!
A.J. Damn Hawk!
Agree with Laurinaitis here against Bell and not sure how he doesn't make the list....Chris must have beef!
Ha! No beef. I was just trying to keep the list from being too long but should've had him on there. I guess in my mind, I think Hawk was the far superior LB whereas I think on the DL Smith/Heyward is kind of a stalemate for me just like Gamble/Jenkins at corner.
Its not just his talent on the field, its his charisma. Just his presence made the team better. He was the heart and soul of the silver bullets
I'd have to say Hawk or Laurinaitis, we need a MLB who is in on every tackle.
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Does everyone remember what Cam Heyward did to Arkansas? That was one of the most dominating performances by an Ohio State DE I have ever seen. Arkansas had him doubled and tripled while chop blocking him the entire game... And he was on a bum leg. My vote went to Cam.
And an arm that needed Tommy John surgery after.
Cam was a beast, he was just too slow to defend spread quarterbacks. Rushing someone like Mallett was the perfect situation for him.
Remember his performances against Darryl Clark/PSU and Jeremiah Masoli/Oregon? I'd say he can defend spread quarterbacks. It was just a matter of it he was consistently getting double-teamed or not.
I still watch the youtube videos of his performance in that game occasionally. And that of the cheapshot by Wade Grayson.
Hey I heard AJ Hawk can tackle. Is it true because if so, we need him back.
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I would love to see Hawk flying around in the Scarlet & Gray again.
I voted Gamble cause he can pull double duty - offense and defense.
Hmmm. Toughest question yet. Went w Doss. Prolly need a lb more but there can never be another one of him. He would make every single person on our d play to their full potential and more.
We need a DB who isn't going to be missing tackles.
It's gotta be Gamble. Yeah he doesn't help necessarily against Bell and MSU's running game, but he can play WR and provide us with that weapon on offense this team is so deserately missing at the wide out position.
Linebackers by a landslide.
Because we couldn't go for three.
Hawk followed by Doss.
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I agree, Hawk then Doss. What do both of them have in common? They can tackle! That is what this team is missing the most, pure open field tacklers! Hawk is needed at MLB for sure but it is a close second to have Doss creeping towards the LOS and putting his two cents on Bell.
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I went with AJ since there's no spot for JL. I'm still hoping that this is Grant's coming out party though. Until he has to play against an offense that comes at him instead of around the middle, I'm not sold on the opinion that he's a lost cause. I guess we will see what happens 3:30 tomorrow.
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Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
An All American LB would make this D a top 20 unit at least. I love the way Hawk played/plays, but I have to give the nod to Lil' Animal. Big slight that he didn't make the poll.
May not be as talented or have the ridiculous stats compared to others, but MLB is the piece this D is missing. Against Sparty, he's the All-American I pick given the team we already have on the field.
I'm generally partial to front seven, but give me Doss!
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Other: The best linebacker OSU has had this past decade, James Laurinaitis.
That's debateable, but what is certain is that AJ Hawk, Bobby Carpenter, and Anthony Schlegel comprised the best linebacking trio this university's ever seen.
Definitely a top notch group but that would be an interesting post in and of itself.
A few others to consider:
1985: Spielman, Pepper Johnson and Larry Kolic
1998: Katenmoyer, Diggs, Rudzinski
2002: Grant, Wilhelm, Reynolds
'04/05: Carpenter, Hawk, Schlegel
2007: Larry Grant, Laurinaitis, Freeman
I'm with you, I think Hawk, Carpenter and Schlegel is tough to beat but there are some other solid groups. Who you got next? I'll take the '85 group. Pepper Johnson should get more run than he does. He was an animal. I might even say '85 edges out '04/'05 on my list. Would have to take a deeper dive into the numbers.
Steve Tovar ! #58 --- another blast from the past
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Tovar was a beast. I didn't list any of his years though because the teams were bad and his fellow LB's weren't anything special. Names like Judah Herman, John Kacherski, Tom Lease...Herman could lay a big hit but that's about it. Craig Powell was the best LB that Tovar was ever paired with ('92) but as a trio, none of the corps he led were fantastic. As an individual player, no question he was a force. He reminded me of Pepper.
Alas, '85 was before my time--not to mention the fact that I was still pretty young when I was watching that fabled '98 squad--so it would be a disservice for me to rate them. I would say that the '04/'05 trio was easily the best of the last decade (I mean, look at a guy like Schlegel--easily the worst of the three, but he'd be starring on our current squad), and--based on my childhood memories of watching Diggs and Katenmoyer devour souls--I'd put that '98 squad up next.
Marek and Kat, edit: oops, this was from Coach Tress era.
WILLIAM ON 28 SEPTEMBER 2012 - 10:36AM #
Other: The best linebacker OSU has had this past decade, James Laurinaitis.
Have to go with Hawk with JL a close second. Hawk was more athletic and made more plays..especially in the backfield. JL was just a tackling machine who was excellent in coverage.
I picked Will Smith (Cam Heyward would have been my second choice from the list) but would love to see Brian Rolle out there. Rolle would have been my choice.
Hawk, Wilhelm, Laurinaitis
Nice try, Matt Wilhelm
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Big Kat, Lil Animal, Crazy Hawk
(if we're allowed to go back to the past 15 years)
Li'l Animal was by far the best.GO BUCKS!
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upon further inspection of the title.....
I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.
With a GREAT mlb we would not have any problems on this defense!!!
We definitely need a star LB ASAP
On THIS team it's Hawk all the way.
Im going to go with Laurinaitis too. He was just a beast among men on the field and was a general.
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Any former great at linebacker is the answer. I'd take present-day Chris Spielman if it were an option too.
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What?! Did everyone forget to drink their morning coffee? Ohio State's defense is getting crushed on the edge. Opposing WR's are finding massive holes in the zones and blown coverages. On outside screens, our DBs are getting blocked 10, 15, and 20 yards up the field.
Malcolm Jenkins is the only choice here as far as I'm concerned. I'm shocked he's last. I know we're a little thin at LB, and pressuring the QB hasn't exactly come together yet, but stopping the run hasn't been the issue. The pass coverage is some of the worst in the nation.
Read Ross's Defensive breakdown from earlier this week and you'll understand why we need linebackers to step up.
I would go:
1. AJ Hawk and/ or James Laurinaitis
2. Chris Gamble and/or Malcolm Jenkins.
3. Mike Doss (or even Kurt Coleman)
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Where does Donte Whitner fall? That guy can hit!
The pass coverage is only bad because everybody is forced to play in different positions to cover for the weak linebacker play. With good linebackers, we'd be playing more press from the corners and put an end to all that short passing!
Well, identifying how one position weakness affects another position is a chicken-or-the-egg type of discussion. Ross's analysis very clearly illustrates that there are substantial problems with both positions, and he spends a lot of time discussing the confusion in the coverages. I don't really know if AJ Hawk by himself would be good enough to make up for the deficiency. Maybe so. Remember that he played alongside Bobby Carpenter, who is also still playing in the NFL. It is painfully obvious that there is no NFL-calibur cornerback on the edge...which is unacceptable at Ohio State.
I can understand Hawk getting a majority of the votes. I just don't understand why an All-American shut-down cornerback gets the least # of votes. I think Ohio State linebackers get a lot of credit because they make the highlight reel. A shut-down corner gets forgotten.
@ BUCKSFAN anyone else remember watching the ESPNU special, when Combs was explaining playing the Out route, and our DB's all kind of looked at each other like.... is this guy serious.... just let them catch the ball and tackle them??
Anyone who can consistently make a tackle, which really makes Malcolm, Doss, Hawk, and Laurinaitis very viable candidates. Of course, I'd love to see Will Smith back on the field. You know, a defensive end who actually impacts the games in which he is playing as opposed to just being hyped up to be really really good. And tough. And Fiery. And Scrappy....
Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would more obvious.
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chose doss, but second thoughts here, make me think a.j.hawk.
I'm shocked that Dustin Fox didn't make the list. I get not having Donnie Nickey, he would be out of his element.
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Because you can toss him on msu's best receiver, stay in the base 4-3 and know that not only is Malcom going to shut down his receiver, he is also going to seal the edge and keep running plays inside so our underperforming LBs can stick to the gaps and make tackles.
In the event that (when) Bell would slip a tackle,...Malcom would already be in pursuit and stop it from becoming a huge play.
Finally,...after making said plays, Malcom would provide energy and leadership this defense needs to keep them pumped and playing at a high level. Also helps get the crowd into it.
GIVE ME MALCOM!!!!
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Hawk & Laurinaitis
Hawk. On a team with linebackers that somehow lack both playmaking ability and assignment discipline, it'd be nice to have a player that had both in spades.
Plus he has one of the all-time great names for a linebacker. That has to count for something.
All of the above
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Hawk for sure. No wait, Laurinaitis.Yeah, that's it. I said Hawk, didn't I?
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Hawk easily. He would help shut down Sparty's one dimensional run game/offense going sideline to sideline.