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Where does Beanie rank among Ohio State's all-time best running backs?

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 8:22am #

Archie, Byers, George, Beanie?

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BoFuquel on 16 Aug 2012 - 8:56am #

Harley is still #1. GO BUCKSS!

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Tim on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:06am #

Archie, Byars, George, Cassady, Harley, then maybe Pete Johnson, Beanie, Spencer...  I'd say top 10 for Beanie, maybe top 6.

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faux_maestro on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:06am #

There are too many to say top 3, especially without a Heisman for Beanie.

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Steve Earle Bru... on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:07am #

Yeah, it's hard to put him in the top 3. Perhaps if he had stayed his senior season. 

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harp35 on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:07am #

Did he win a heisman? No so there goes top 5, then I would bring up Byers, Clarett, Smith,Spencer, Harris. Beanie was forever pulling himself out of the game after every run. Other
then Lsu run my main memory is him standing up after a run and motioning to sideline and going off field.

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:11am #

I don't care how good Clarrett was the guy played ONE season!!! He's not in the top 10!

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harp35 on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:16am #

Does OSU have a nat championship without him..... No, so I put him in mine. Count Oden in basketball.

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:20am #

We're talking top RB's overall..what they did through their CAREERS. Not one season. Natty title or not I don't think he should be there but if you think so good for you.

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William on 16 Aug 2012 - 11:12am #

Archie, Eddie, Harley, Byars, Johnson, Cassady, and Wells are my top seven.

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Ahh Saturday on 16 Aug 2012 - 12:23pm #

Rushing Yards – Career Att. ..... Av/Att ..Gm ...Av/Gm ...TD ...... Year
1. 5,589 Archie Griffi n 924 ............6.0 ....46 ......121.5 ....26 . 1972-75
2. 3,768 Eddie George 683 ............5.5 ....48 ........78.5 ....44 . 1992-95
3. 3,553 Tim Spencer 644 ............5.5 ....47 ........75.6 ....36 . 1979-82
4. 3,382 Chris Wells 585 ............5.8 ....36 ........93.9 ....30 . 2006-08
5. 3,200 Keith Byars 619 ............5.2 ....37 ........86.5 ....46 . 1982-85
6. 3,076 Pepe Pearson 659 ............4.7 ....49 ........62.8 ....32 . 1994-97
7. 2,999 Carlos Snow 610 ............4.9 ....42 ........71.4 ....30 . 1987-89, ’91
8. 2,951 Michael Wiley 509 ............5.8 ....47 ........62.8 ....27 . 1996-99
9. 2,945 Antonio Pittman 557 ............5.3 ....35 ........84.1 ....22 . 2004-06
10. 2,649 Raymont Harris 574 ............4.6 ....43 ........61.6 ....27 . 1990-93

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Bucksfan on 16 Aug 2012 - 1:30pm #

Not fair.  Beanie played more games, and more games against weaker competition, than guys in previous eras.  As you can see by your top-10, names like Horvath, Cassady, and Harley aren't on your list mostly for that very reason.

That said, I do think Wells is probably top-6, but at the very back end.  Griffin, George, Harley, Cassady, Horvath, then Beanie.  

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OSUBias on 16 Aug 2012 - 1:38pm #

Wells played in 36 games, the least amount of games on that list. So his totals aren't skewed.

He has the second highest YPC and the second highest YPG, which can't be skewed by totals anyway since it's an average.

When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."

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Bucksfan on 16 Aug 2012 - 1:51pm #

No, that wasn't my point.  My point was that 1/5 of those games were against Northern Illinois, Bowling Green, Cincinnati, Youngstown State (twice), Akron, and Kent State.  What are his stats when those games are removed?  Plus, you have to remove a Big Ten game or two while you're at it, since now everyone plays one more of those compared with the 1950s and earlier.

All I meant was that stats today are substantially inflated because of expanded schedules (and the play clock, while we're at it...games are effectively longer now because of more plays and stopped clocks).

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OSUBias on 16 Aug 2012 - 2:22pm #

I'll give you the play clock and expanded schedule thing. But teams also pass a lot more now than they did in 1920, meaning less opportunity for runners in todays world.

And you can't discount Wells stats for bad competition. Harley played Ohio Wesleyan and Oberlin (128-0 victory) and Case (before it was even Case Western!). Not exactly murderers row. Horvath played a game against Great Lakes Navy in the one year I looked up quickly. Cassady had a tougher lineup, at least in 1954, but it's not like Beanie was the only guy with some cupcakes .

When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."

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jenks on 16 Aug 2012 - 2:58pm #

love to see the case props here!

Case didn't become CWRU until 1967 though so really there are still far more years as CIT than CWRU.

And don't discount Case, we've had a dominating football team for the last few years!

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Bucksfan on 16 Aug 2012 - 4:23pm #

Touche, OSUbias!

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sir rickithda3rd on 16 Aug 2012 - 2:42pm #

ypc is about the best comparison there is imo

mark may wins douchebag of the year... again

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buckeye76BHop on 16 Aug 2012 - 4:11pm #

Beanie was in my top 6...I agree with you on Clarrett Jason.  He was important for that one year...but that was it.

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"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
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jestertcf on 16 Aug 2012 - 5:47pm #

If Pepe Pearson is number six on the list, I discount it immediatly.

Beanie would have been higher on my list if he would have played through some injuries. I put most of the blame on him for the USC losses as he watched from the sideline.

~Because we couldn't go for three~

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 7:40pm #

USC losses? He wasn't here for the loss in 2009. It's really hard to blame a guy if hes injured no? I mean Tressel is the one who kept him out.

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YTOWNBUCKI on 16 Aug 2012 - 1:53pm #

No love for Pepe?

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BuckeyeSki on 16 Aug 2012 - 3:16pm #

Does Mo Clarrett even make the top 50?

If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin'  like Whoopi Goldberg

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 5:23pm #

For talent alone he's top 5-10..and maybe top 5 best seasons..but that's about it.

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BuckeyeSki on 16 Aug 2012 - 5:51pm #

I def. meant Mo Wells not Mo Clarrett

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If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin'  like Whoopi Goldberg

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BrewstersMillions on 16 Aug 2012 - 3:29pm #

Eddie, Archie, Beanie would be my RB Depth Chart-in that order-if I'm making an all time team. For what its worth, since OSU Football spans SO many eras of college football, you guys can have your small dudes from the early era of football. I'll go with big (Eddie) fast (Archie) and Big and Fast (Beanie) if I'm putting together an all time.

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

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johnblairgobucks on 16 Aug 2012 - 6:11pm #

FWIW- I loved me some Mike Wiley.  Coop didn't give him the ball enough his junior and senior year.  Coop let Joe Germaine call too many audibles into pass plays, instead of running the ball. Wiley was explosive. 

Wiley would have filled that elusive P*** Harv** Role (if we must reference this role in the future, can we simply call it the PHR?)in Urban Meyer's offense  better than any RB OSU has had in the past 25 years.

To the poll- Griffin, Byars, George, Harley, Clarett and Wiley.    I'd rank  Beannie #7.

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Alex Root on 16 Aug 2012 - 7:22pm #

I voted top 10 but he is close to top 6, like someone else said I wish he played throgh some injuries becuase he lost some valuable time. If he didn't miss sometime he could easily be top 5. But he might already be in there as it is. Also like some said its hard to compare against guys from the 40's and 50's because football was totally different then.

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David Sokol on 16 Aug 2012 - 10:18pm #

Ironic that there are 28 comments..now 29

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Squirrel Master on 16 Aug 2012 - 10:55pm #

Top 10 but I can't seem to get him in the top 6. Archie, George, Cassidy, Byers, Harley and Robert Smith. He wasn't around long but he was awesome. 


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M Man on 16 Aug 2012 - 11:37pm #

I remember being at the OSU game in Michigan Stadium with an old college friend, who worked in New York City with somebody from Ohio.  He gets a text message from the guy who was watching on tv:  "U can't stop Beanie."  Sadly, he was right.

Beanie rates really, really high with me.  For the games I saw, I think Beanie was scarier to face than Eddie George.  Maybe Beanie was part of a better-balanced offense.

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