I would like to see Ohio State score between 50-70 and the Defense get a couple TD's in that total. I am excited about this new culture and angry pissed off attitude that has not been seen in over a decade.
I am excited about the new culture as well, but are you saying during that magical 10 years under Tressel we didn't have one angry or pissed off team? You don't think the 2007 team was pissed off from getting clown stomped against the Gators..and the 2008 team full of seniors that lost the title game to LSU? I think not!
Let's find out if Laurinaitis and Malcolm Jenkins were never played pissed off during their 4 year careers. We weren't pissed off and angry for the 2006 Michigan game? Come on! It's one thing to be excited for the new coaching styles and culture etc...but to just act like we were a shitty unmotivated football team for 10 years, well that's just plain ignorant.
I didn't mean to imply former players were never pissed off before a game, but I certainly don't recall Coach Tress ever saying publicly that he wanted an angry, pissed off football team. Plus, I'd rather see a team who is angry and ready to destroy Miami on Saturday rather than a team who comes out flat and ends up playing a close game against an inferior opponent.
I want a pumped up team that doesn't come out and play flat either..I think we all want that. I just think the whole "playing angry" thing is overrated. You could be angry all you want..but once you get hit in the mouth it all comes down to talent, execution, and who's better conditioned.
Just my opinion here..... I never remember Tress allowing his team to be angry and show intense emotion, as a matter of fact, Tress never showed emotion.
Never? I have seen Tressel pissed off on the sidelines and seen his teams show emotion whether it be anger or elation. I love watching the last few minutes of the Rose Bowl when the players were jacked up and he was yelling "It's not over!"
No he did not, however the point is that showing emotion or not has no bearing on how good a coach is. Brian Kelly is embarassing. Even when JT was pissed, he never turned purple and dropped F bombs. Tressel kept his emotions in check and was a very good coach. Kelly is a lunatic and hasn't shown anyone he is that great of a coach.
Personally, I was never a huge Tressel fan, either. But maybe that's because I wasn't really an OSU fan until I decided to go to school here.
Tressel definitely had some great qualities, but if you're comparing his levels of motivation to those of Urban Meyer, you really have no idea. Just look at that Florida/OSU national championship game. That Florida team was SO fired up coming into that game, and as much as everyone here hates to admit it, Tressel's teams have always been, IMO, very undercoached. Not ENTIRELY Tressel's fault, but the fact that he was so loyal to bad coordinators (i.e. Walrus) and had an incredibly rigid gameplan and reserved demeanor is VERY different from the hypercompetitive style of Urban Meyer.
The Tressel-era teams were bailed out because of individually great athletes. Troy Smith, Ted Ginn, Beanie Wells, Terrelle Pryor, etc.... but the line play has been awful, the conditioning hasn't been up to par with SEC teams, the quarterback coaching has been VERY poor for years now (which explains why Smith and Pryor never really developed that well as passers), and that's why his teams routinely lost to great teams like USC, Texas, Florida and LSU. All of those teams had some combination of 1) a great QB, 2) a great D-Line, and 3) Innovative playcalling.
The coaching should take a large portion of the blame for the Tressel-era teams. Is he a great guy? Yes. Did he run a good program? Yes. Is it on the same level as the program that Urban ran at Florida? I really don't think so.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
What's the record for most touchdowns scored by the Buckeyes in The Shoe? Total, not just offense, but special teams and defense all combined. Whatever that number is, is what I'm thinking they shoot for. Why not try to light it up right outta the gate? Everyone knows what is said about first impressions.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
The first team offense better score everytime they have the ball. Special teams should get a return for a td. Defense should give them a short field to work with. 6+ td's very attainable.
Bottom line is nothing can be worse than the previous coaching staff. 63-0 The Ohio State Buckeyes.
Waffle, I see you.... We don't wanna run the score up on people.
Ohio State's band SLAUGHTERED Michigan's band. If this were a football game, it would have been Florida State vs. Savannah State. - SB Nation following OSU vs. UM 2012
Here are some quotes (posted by Brandon Castel on Twitter) from Coach Warinner I think are very fitting here.
We're going to try to be the aggressor on offense, not just try to ease our way into it and see what the defense does. It's a new philosophy, an aggressive approach in all phases - run, pass game, attacking people, saying, "we're coming after you." I think that there needs to be a transformation (here) from previous to new style, a new way of doing business. We're not going to ease into games where we're going to come out and just pound a few up the middle and be real conservative.
16th out of 119 isn't good? Also let's not act like the B1G was filled with dynamic offenses. I'm not saying the SEC is/was filled with dynamic offenses either, but they were on average probably more potent than most B1G offenses.
I think 48-10 type of score. I see it as 300 on ground and 200 in the air. I also think a couple of turn overs keeps tOSU under 50 points. I expect some growing pains.
Hrewell (Miami WR) vs. Roby will be interesting.
Maybe tomorrow, when today will be yesterday things will be clearer.
Miami of Ohio will give up at least 6 scores...this isn't your 42-0 Akron team from last year (we all remember where they finished). They'll have back ups in by end of 3rd bc it will be over 42 points...take it to the bank!
Thank you Bucksfan...I love seeing proof right in front of my eyes (that way ppl won't open their silly mouths about how UFM won't score over 40 points). Oh it will happen...and in bunches as you proved above.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
If history is any indication, he is at least going to TRY to score a lot of points. Even if he "takes his foot off the gas" in the 3rd quarter by removing the starters, he probably expects Kenny Guiton to march down the field and score a TD with the backups. And he's not going to just give him DAVE to do it. I can't wait to applaud the creativity and the effort in blowouts. Meyer is the kind of guy, from what I have seen so far, that will score on you if he can. He's got national championships on the brain, not how Mark Dantonio or Pat Fitzgerald feel about how many points by which they lost. There are countless other ways to demonstrate good sportsmanship that don't involve fucking with the scoreboard. National championships in this sport are a popularity contest. And it's going to be that way even when the playoff hits....you will still need to convince people you're one of the top-5 or 6 teams in the country.
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I'll guess Braxton runs for one. Throws two- one to Stoney and one to Devin Smith. Hyde rushes for one. The defense gets one on a turnover.
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Urban is going to put up 70 if he can, the days of holding back after going up by 10 are gone.
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Whats with 70 as a fixed number? I doubt they get to 50.
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I did not realize I said they would..... I simply said "IF".
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It just seems like everyone is saying they are going to drop 70 on Saturday.
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I would like to see Ohio State score between 50-70 and the Defense get a couple TD's in that total. I am excited about this new culture and angry pissed off attitude that has not been seen in over a decade.
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I am excited about the new culture as well, but are you saying during that magical 10 years under Tressel we didn't have one angry or pissed off team? You don't think the 2007 team was pissed off from getting clown stomped against the Gators..and the 2008 team full of seniors that lost the title game to LSU? I think not!
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I was never a fan of Tress, just Ohio State Football. I will keep my opinion about Tress to myself so as not to cause a bad exchange.
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You probably should have followed you own advice.
It's different to be pissed off after a game than before it.
Let's find out if Laurinaitis and Malcolm Jenkins were never played pissed off during their 4 year careers. We weren't pissed off and angry for the 2006 Michigan game? Come on! It's one thing to be excited for the new coaching styles and culture etc...but to just act like we were a shitty unmotivated football team for 10 years, well that's just plain ignorant.
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I didn't mean to imply former players were never pissed off before a game, but I certainly don't recall Coach Tress ever saying publicly that he wanted an angry, pissed off football team. Plus, I'd rather see a team who is angry and ready to destroy Miami on Saturday rather than a team who comes out flat and ends up playing a close game against an inferior opponent.
I want a pumped up team that doesn't come out and play flat either..I think we all want that. I just think the whole "playing angry" thing is overrated. You could be angry all you want..but once you get hit in the mouth it all comes down to talent, execution, and who's better conditioned.
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Just my opinion here..... I never remember Tress allowing his team to be angry and show intense emotion, as a matter of fact, Tress never showed emotion.
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NEVER? You must have missed some games then. I get it, you don't like Tressel.
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Never? I have seen Tressel pissed off on the sidelines and seen his teams show emotion whether it be anger or elation. I love watching the last few minutes of the Rose Bowl when the players were jacked up and he was yelling "It's not over!"
^^^thankyou
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^^^ cute
show me one of Brian Kelly and let me know if Hes a better coach then Tressel..k thanks.
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Brian Kelly never coached the Ohio State Buckeyes.
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Just give up dude..you just come off as a little hater.
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Because I have an opinion I am a hater? I guess I will take that instead of sounding delusional and ignorant.
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Ok, your opinion is that Tressel "NEvEr" showed any emotion..which is obviously false. That makes your "opinion" sound delusional and ignorant.
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Hey, 4Dorr and BuckeyeJason, you know who's awesome?
Me.
:-D
I agree Bassplayer, thanks for ending it on that note.
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Just for saying that..you are soooooo not awesome! lol
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No he did not, however the point is that showing emotion or not has no bearing on how good a coach is. Brian Kelly is embarassing. Even when JT was pissed, he never turned purple and dropped F bombs. Tressel kept his emotions in check and was a very good coach. Kelly is a lunatic and hasn't shown anyone he is that great of a coach.
^^ thank you again!
waiting for his next Tressel comment....
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Personally, I was never a huge Tressel fan, either. But maybe that's because I wasn't really an OSU fan until I decided to go to school here.
Tressel definitely had some great qualities, but if you're comparing his levels of motivation to those of Urban Meyer, you really have no idea. Just look at that Florida/OSU national championship game. That Florida team was SO fired up coming into that game, and as much as everyone here hates to admit it, Tressel's teams have always been, IMO, very undercoached. Not ENTIRELY Tressel's fault, but the fact that he was so loyal to bad coordinators (i.e. Walrus) and had an incredibly rigid gameplan and reserved demeanor is VERY different from the hypercompetitive style of Urban Meyer.
The Tressel-era teams were bailed out because of individually great athletes. Troy Smith, Ted Ginn, Beanie Wells, Terrelle Pryor, etc.... but the line play has been awful, the conditioning hasn't been up to par with SEC teams, the quarterback coaching has been VERY poor for years now (which explains why Smith and Pryor never really developed that well as passers), and that's why his teams routinely lost to great teams like USC, Texas, Florida and LSU. All of those teams had some combination of 1) a great QB, 2) a great D-Line, and 3) Innovative playcalling.
The coaching should take a large portion of the blame for the Tressel-era teams. Is he a great guy? Yes. Did he run a good program? Yes. Is it on the same level as the program that Urban ran at Florida? I really don't think so.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
4dorr is a noob, Tressel is god
<3 waffles.... :)
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On offense or defense?!?!
What's the record for most touchdowns scored by the Buckeyes in The Shoe? Total, not just offense, but special teams and defense all combined. Whatever that number is, is what I'm thinking they shoot for. Why not try to light it up right outta the gate? Everyone knows what is said about first impressions.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
I'd be a bit worried if we were held to 35 points by this weak Miami defense.
/Duff'd It
Jim Tressel would have a good half, then go into rain man mode and hope it is good enough to win.
Where is the like button?
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The first team offense better score everytime they have the ball. Special teams should get a return for a td. Defense should give them a short field to work with. 6+ td's very attainable.
Bottom line is nothing can be worse than the previous coaching staff. 63-0 The Ohio State Buckeyes.
I wish my Buckeyes were as good as Wisconsin
Waffle, I see you.... We don't wanna run the score up on people.
Ohio State's band SLAUGHTERED Michigan's band. If this were a football game, it would have been Florida State vs. Savannah State. - SB Nation following OSU vs. UM 2012
Here are some quotes (posted by Brandon Castel on Twitter) from Coach Warinner I think are very fitting here.
jason, bro, u come off very condescending. Not trying to start a fight with anyone but your comments can get ppl defensive fast
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Yeah Jason, this Wisconsin lover is right, you come off as a meanie head
Why thank you kind sir. Maybe thats my plan?
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Emitting tone over the internet is the bigger story. Jason, you sir have won the internet.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
I WON THE INTERWEBZ!?!? Sweeeeet!!!
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lol thats how u feel huh waffles?
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I hate to get involved with this here, but it's no secret that Jim Tressel's teams could be infuriating to watch at times.
Tressel's 40+ point game totals...
2001: 0
2002: 4
2003: 1
2004: 0
2005: 4 (didn't start until November)
2006: 4 (didn't start until late October...and this was his best offense)
2007: 1
2008: 4 (one was an accident against Northwestern, Tressel was visibly upset by the last minute score)
2009: 1
2010: 5 (career high, with a team that had 4 offensive starters that he knowingly played ineligibly).
Urban Meyer while at Florida never had less than 3 games where his team scored 40+ points in a given season.
2005: 3
2006: 3
2007: 8
2008: 8 (including a run of 7 straight)
2009: 6
2010: 3
So, get out your calculators, boys and girls. We're about to get spoiled by points.
Urban needed those points since his Defense wasnt as good as the Silver Bullets
What? Meyer had very good defenses at UF, just ask Troy Smith or Sam Bradford...
How good you ask? Why here you go!
2005-16th best
2006-7th best
2007-33rd (Down year)
2008-5th best
2009-3rd best
2010-35th best-the notorious burn out year.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
So he had 3 good defenses in 6 years...that's no Heacock-Fickell defenses lol.
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16th out of 119 isn't good? Also let's not act like the B1G was filled with dynamic offenses. I'm not saying the SEC is/was filled with dynamic offenses either, but they were on average probably more potent than most B1G offenses.
I consider top 15 good. They just missed the cut.
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Um....each year he had a good defense. 35th was his worst? In a year his body failed him and mind was fried? I'll take it.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
I know I was just being sarcastic..forgot to put the sarcasm font on.
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Ahhh. Mah bad.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
He did have about a million defensive players drafted from his Florida teams too.
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Waffles is a troll
I disagree. I love waffles! Anyone else wanna walk over to the new Waffle House on campus with me?
Nice stats! I am excited to listen to all the scoring on the radio while sitting at my daughters soccer match.
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D.....V......R!!!!
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Just bought a new calculator :))
I think 48-10 type of score. I see it as 300 on ground and 200 in the air. I also think a couple of turn overs keeps tOSU under 50 points. I expect some growing pains.
Hrewell (Miami WR) vs. Roby will be interesting.
Maybe tomorrow, when today will be yesterday things will be clearer.
GO BUCKS !!
Tressels Reign:
Most BCS appearances.
Tied for most BCS wins.
1 NC - 3 appearances.
9-1 against UM.
Tressel was plenty good at coaching.
It's a new era though & I think we are all excited for whatever is going to happen next...I am anyway...we will see over 40 points this Saturday.
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
We scored six tds in last years opener with bauserman starting. Just sayin.
Bauserman was aiming for C deck and missed, he hit the WR by mistake. :)
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He wasn't fully warmed up yet.
/Duff'd It
Good work Bucksfan.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Miami of Ohio will give up at least 6 scores...this isn't your 42-0 Akron team from last year (we all remember where they finished). They'll have back ups in by end of 3rd bc it will be over 42 points...take it to the bank!
Thank you Bucksfan...I love seeing proof right in front of my eyes (that way ppl won't open their silly mouths about how UFM won't score over 40 points). Oh it will happen...and in bunches as you proved above.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
If history is any indication, he is at least going to TRY to score a lot of points. Even if he "takes his foot off the gas" in the 3rd quarter by removing the starters, he probably expects Kenny Guiton to march down the field and score a TD with the backups. And he's not going to just give him DAVE to do it. I can't wait to applaud the creativity and the effort in blowouts. Meyer is the kind of guy, from what I have seen so far, that will score on you if he can. He's got national championships on the brain, not how Mark Dantonio or Pat Fitzgerald feel about how many points by which they lost. There are countless other ways to demonstrate good sportsmanship that don't involve fucking with the scoreboard. National championships in this sport are a popularity contest. And it's going to be that way even when the playoff hits....you will still need to convince people you're one of the top-5 or 6 teams in the country.