PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
I think they should spend a day at the ER, and anybody that walks through the door with a broken pinkie finger, they can help set his/her pinkie finger with two popsicle sticks and tape.
Yellow shirts in the weight room.
Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.
because we already got in trouble for lavender?
Because it's the color of urine
i was going with "its what michigan fans wear to games" but yeah, thats close enough
My guess is Coach Meyer is going to unleash Coach Mariotti. He'll make them pay in pain and suffering in the weight room and in training. Then there is also making the team do extra work because of their stupidity. It's hard when you have to watch your friends/teammates suffer for your mistakes. I don't think they'll be suspended, but will be reprimanded for the embarassment they brought to themselves and the team.
I really think they should be suspended the first two games. Let's not make this a theme. Lay down the law and punish two of your leaders; make them an example. Even if the charges are dropped, they shouldn't have been in a position to make even more bad press for the team. The punishment must be harsh and publically known.
This is a joke right? Two games for pissing on the side of the building and then doing what any natural human being does when an unidentified bright light is shined on them at 2:30 in the morning? Have them run the stairs, do some community work, but a suspension? Give me a break, it's not like they drove a car inebriated or shot a BB gun at folks (Dom Clarke) or beat up their baby momma(s) (Derjuan Gambrell).
No, it's not a joke. When two of your leaders mess up, you have to make an example. You don't run from police, period. They admitted they ran because they didn't want to get in trouble. Yes, it's harsh. But with all the shit that's gone on around the program, you have to have a zero tolerance policy. As much as I hate Greg Doyel of CBS, he had a point with that Urban didn't enforce too harshly at Florida; if you're going along with his track record thus far with Berry, Clarke, and Gambrell, a suspension should be in order, although I don't think that it'll happen. It might be good for the program to have two of your leaders suspended, to say "if you mess up, I don't care how old or how much experience you are, don't put our program in any more bad light".
May I remind you that Clarke and Gambrell are both not on the team, so that's not quite the perfect example lol. I'm just looking at it objectively.
I apologize, the poll asked for my opinion. I'm tired of this stupid shit that all of the players are doing, aren't you?
If the charges are dropped, what does it matter? Seriously, the folks on here that want suspensions are some serious holier-than-thous.
Edit: Honestly I could care less if they get caught pissing on a building, or smoking a doobie, etc. If they aren't doing anything that endangers another person, who cares? They're college students, just like myself, and I'm not going to hold them to any higher standards than I hold myself, otherwise that would be rather hypocritical of me. The same goes for anyone else that has had a night with the fellas/gals and they have had to pop a squat and use the wonderful outdoors. Also don't give the "They're the face of the program, or they're leaders" garbage. The same goes for the "The program has been through so much", guess what, two guys pulling their peters out and drizzling on the side of the building isn't going to affect our standing with the NCAA or affect their *leadership abilities*. I could care less about what the media says at this point. They didn't harm or endanger anyone, in any manner.
Whatever you say. I just am looking it objectively, and it does not look good.
The power of bad press is overwhelming. Stupidity must be punished; Meyer can't just sweep it under the rug.
They admitted they ran because they didn't want to get in trouble.
They admitted they ran because they didn't want to get in trouble.
You never run from police. Period.
they also didnt know they were running from the police
They didn't harm or endanger anyone, in any manner.
Wrong, when they decided to run from Johnny Law they turned a harmless situation into a potentially dangerous one. What if the Donut Eater in Chief had suffered a serious injury. Can you imagine what the ramifications would have been for OSU football. They should have known better and they should be made an example of. And yes, leaders on the football team should absolutely be held to a higher standard than the average student. Duh
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It's not holier than thou. It is setting a performance expectation and counting on your leaders to set the example. When I was a child, I thought the discipline and rules my parents held me accountable for were overkill. As I grew older, I figured out that there were reasons for these rules to be in place. You handle the small stuff and the big stuff will take care of itself. It is a common leadership technique taught at many leadership seminars. Give it time. You will understand one day.
Even if it is dropped, I think that some sort of community service needs to be administered. The punishment need not be severe. I don't know about you but most people run because they are guilty of something or the proverbial "I was scared". What did these two have to be scared about? The coach finding out? If I am Meyer, I am more mad that they ran than I am the urination.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
Agreed. If that's all there truly is to the story, then it seems logical their suspensions will be lifted as soon as the cases are resolved. I would think Coach Meyer may make the whole team do extra conditioning for this.
If I were built like either Jake or Jack, I would not run from a light. I can't think of too many things that I would be afraid of. But if it comes to more than a whiz, UFM is really, really going to be pissed.
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I think you should apply for a job with ESPiN, Mr. URBZRENEWAL. You would fit in well there.
I'm not saying it's what they deserve, but I do think they will miss a game. If all charges are dropped then I think they may not lose any playing time by they will be hurting somehow for this.
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
everyone remember this? sat out 1 half for trying to gouge a players eyes out. im pretty sure pissing on a building is a lesser offense haha.
Charges dropped - other. If charges are dropped, reinstate them.
Charges not dropped - stairs. Let's not lose track that all they did was pee on a building. Yes they got arrested, but they peed on a building
I heard from another poster that they also ran from the police. Rumors!
If peeing on a building is cool, then consider me....wait, thats not right
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
My prediction: charges will be dropped in a few more days.
The suspensions will be immediately dropped and the internally meted out punishment(s) will commence. Phase One: Both get busted down to "blue" level in UFM's system of dolling out priviliges - and they will have to work their asses off to earn their way back into "red" and "gold" status (assuming they were "gold" already).
Lastly, Stoney will not be a captain.
That's ironic, I figured this would make them golden status...
I seriously need to stop reading the comments on this site on the internet.
Really? We're discussing suspensions for a couple of guys who relieved themselves on the side of a building and got spooked when they got caught. Really? You mean some college kids were being college kid-like? How dare they! I'm sorry, but I'm having a real hard time being outraged at this incident. I can't believe that we're to a state of the program/college sports where we are discussing punishment for a couple of guys' bodily functions after having a few beers.
It sucks that we live in a world where people make mistakes. Yes, I'm sorry a 21 year old kid who I don't personally know, but playes for a team I like, had a lapse in judgement. But lets save the outrage for something that deserves it, please?
As an avid COPS watcher (yeah I know thats a rednecky confession, but seriously the show can be pretty entertaining) if there's one thing I've learned, you should never run from the police.
No matter what you think you did or didn't do, running will get you a second charge. And never tell a cop "I pay your salary"
Also, don't ask a cop, "What seems to be the problem, officer?"
I think the guys should be made to drink all the water they can hold and then hold it for a few hours.
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Unless I've missed something (and that's certainly possible), isn't their story that they ran from the light UNTIL they realized it was the police, at which point they stopped? If that's true, then I can't really fault them for that. I would assume that they thought they were running from the business owner (was it a restaurant? don't remember) or some random motorist or something. The fact that they stopped when they realized it was the cops is a plus in my book.
This is probably the nonnest of non-stories I've heard in a loooooooong time.
I agree with the 2 game suspension. We've had a ridiculous amount of bad press and this just sends the flames higher! They are supposed to be leaders and BREAKING THE LAW is not leading in a fashion I would require from them. They broke the law people! Are you suggesting it is okay for our players to break some laws but not others?
"Lets beat the shit out of Michigan".... Urban. Frank. Meyer.
With that logic any player getting a speeding or a parking ticket should get a 2 game suspension. They broke the law!!!!!! Geez they pissed on a wall.
I get your point but if they are going 80 mph in a 35 mph zone that endangers lives. Yes they should be suspended. "Geez they pissed on a wall."? Sounds like you're condoning lewd and disrespectful behavior. Believe me I absolutely hate that this happened to these guys but enough is enough. I'm to the point where I don't want to read the headlines for fear of seeing another idiot "fan" taunting a high school kid or one of our guys getting in trouble.
I was just pointing out that breaking the law is not alway breaking the law and these things can not be measures in the vacuum of just breaking the law. You obviously agree since you bring a certain speed and zone into the discussion. I hate that these things happen and a punishment is certainly justified and warranted but a 2 game suspension is too much in my book.
Peeing on a wall could injure someone! I mean, if it splashes and gets in his eye or someone standing next to him, he could go blind!
Peeing on a wall is NOT to be taken lightly in this day and age! I think there should be a law that anybody that goes to a saloon or bar should be forced to wear Depends. That way if they have to go pee really bad, And they can't get to the restroom for whatever reason, they just go in their drawers.
"I mean, if it splashes and gets in his eye or someone standing next to him, he could go blind"
Your mother never got you a red ryder BB gun for x-mas did she?
OMG LITTERING?? 2 game suspension. Jaywalking? 2 game suspension. DUI? 2 game suspension.
Irricor certainly agrees...
Those are violations not criminal conduct. I don't remember their charge but wasn't it of the criminal nature, albeit of the petty variety?
I am not saying throw the book at them but some type of internal punishment needs top be administered. Police the small stuff folks...
Agreed they need some sort of punishment but not a two game suspension. Get em up at 4 or 5am for a couple of weeks and give them to Marioti. Better yet have them meet him at 12 midnight until 4am four weekends in a row. Teach them that nothing good ever happens if you are out after midnight.
That is the best "punishment" I've heard yet!
I think its a slippery slope to set someone's punishment according to how you think the public/media will react. Their appetite is insatiable; nothing that you do will will ever be enough. Heck, I wouldnt be surprised if some people were calling for him to be kicked off the team for this.
The punishment should fit the "crime". In my mind, suspending them for 2 games punishes them for being OSU football players. I dont see how it teaches you to not pee outside or runaway from a flashlight thats being pointed at you. A public apology, some extra conditioning, some community service, or something of the like seems much more reasonable.
This is TOSU! where we call for the heads of other teams players when they screw up. But when our guys do it's, oh well, they are KIDS who hasn't done that. BLAME THE POLICE!! Personally I don't really care what happens...it's up to Urbs. But considering the jail house he ran at Florida, it will take atleast 5 or 6 more arrests for any kind of suspension.
"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes
Umm no. I could care less about the recently revealed SEC stance on drug testing or the Michigan guy that tried to go all Starsky and Hutch. If guys want to smoke bud, who gives a shit. If a player does something that doesn't endanger anyone, BFD. As for other teams, the only team/player I've ever criticized over their reaction to players breaking the law is Notre Dame and Michael Floyd's acts. Those endangered people and he should've been more heavily punished...
"Time to pee, bitch."
Interesting... reading this story and then I look over to the right and theres an ad displaying the following message: "Check Online Arrest Records."
From Twitter: @craig_krenzel 9:01 PM - 4 Jun 12
any thoughts about OSU's recent problems? 3 games is the word i've been told
And to think Craig James killed 5 hookers and never missed a game because of it..........
You have all heard of two girls and a cup (if not please Google it immediately), how about two boys and a porta pottie?
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