NFL Personnel Executive Believes Ohio State's Defensive Line is Overrated

By DJ Byrnes on September 4, 2014 at 2:21p
Ohio State's defensive line v. Michigan, 2013 [Walt Keys, ElevenWarriors.com]
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Ohio State's defensive line has a chance to go down as one of the greatest in not only Ohio State history, but college football history as well. Entering the season, Urban Meyer raved about the potential of the group.

And why not? Noah Spence and Michael Bennett will more-than-likely be taken in the first round of the 2015 NFL draft. Joey Bosa could be the next J.J. Watt, and Adolphus Washington and Tommy Schutt are two five-star recruits mixing it up on the inside. 

And that's just scraping the surface.

But at least one (anonymous, natch) "NFL personnel executive" believes Ohio State's defensive line is "overrated," according to an NFL.com article.  While he admits it's "a solid group," he contends it features "no elite talent."

Granted, Ohio State gave up 370 rushing yards to Navy... but that was pretty much the entirety of their offense. The Midshipmen, as you may have heard, also run that danged triple-option.

Then there's the fact the defensive line isn't 100% responsible for stopping the run.

If you believe Ohio State's defensive line is "overrated," fine. That's an ambiguous term with no real meaning. But to say there's no elite talent? That's a stretch I'm not sure the Grand Canyon could accommodate. 

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

offensive or defensive line is overrated?

brband64's picture

The fact that someone thinks the defensive line is overrated is offensive....?

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CC's picture

DJ - The O line or D line?

DJ Byrnes's picture

hell i about had a heart attack.

The scoop: An NFL personnel executive believes Ohio State's highly touted defensive front is "overrated." It's a solid group, he says, but there's no elite talent in the mix. 

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CGroverL's picture

I take a lot of crap here...mostly because of the length of my Johnson, or my comments is what I meant, oops...

I need to know why 2 different people asked you if you were speaking of the offensive or defensive line. It is only 110% obvious that the issue was the defensive line. You mentioned player's names that we all know are on the DL and I'm having trouble figuring out why someone would be confused about it especially when your comment back mentioned you almost having a heart attack. Was there a misprint or error in the original write-up or are there really Buckeye fans out there that know you by name but have no idea the names of the starting 4 on the defensive line?

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Buckeye419er's picture

You don't recognize sarcasm well. I believe that is the true reason you "take a lot of crap here". Haha.

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CC's picture

How could it have 2 (maybe 3) first round type players yet have no "elite talent".  There isn't a Suh on this team but there are some great lineman.

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d5k's picture

Not so fast about the Suh comment.  He didn't break out until his junior year and I think any of the guys DJ mentioned could explode like that.

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CC's picture

The only one that has the potential is Bosa IMO.  IMO as a senior he is was Dan Wilkinson ish.   He was that dominant.  I hope Bosa gets there but it's a really high bar.  Under that bar  are guys like Cam Heyward, not bad company.

Patriot4098's picture

Very true. 1 Senior, 2 juniors, and a soph entering the season. I can understand the overrated comment. There is no Suh. There is no Clowney. There are, however, 4 or 5 that COULD be. Truthfully, this is probably the season we find out.

Well, maybe not Clowney. That guy almost deserved a 6th star coming out of highschool. Once a decade, freakishly mature athlete.

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d5k's picture

Right, there isn't a Clowney but you have a lot of guys who are already good and have top half of 1st round potential.  Adolphus looked really good vs. Navy and has all the talent and Height/weight/speed combo.

mobboss1984's picture

While I respect your opinion Noah Spence would be the other elite lineman. Spence and bosa are insane

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Patriot4098's picture

Yep. It is opinion. Just like the guy who was quoted by the OP. I'd have to argue that by the end of the season at least one of our D-Linemen will emerge as elite. Possibly more than one, especially next season when Bosa is a junior and if Diesel or Spence choose to stay.

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CGroverL's picture

Loved and +1'ed your first comment....but I still see Washington as the best on the DL. So far, stats agree with me, too as Washington had a decent first game by the numbers. I'm not saying that Bosa had a bad game because Navy's way of blocking makes the D-lineman go into the backfield (where he is trying to get) but keeps pushing him in the direction he was going, thus taking him out of the play. This happened to both Bosa and Bennett against Navy. When it comes to the DL in game one only Washington had a good game as Bosa had just one solo tackle (for a 3 yard loss) and 2 assists. Bennett had just 1 solo tackle (for a 3 yard loss) and just 1 assist.

Navy's way of blocking a DL is to let the defender get a step or two and then push the defender in that same direction. It takes them completely out of the play. Everyone thinks that Bosa and Bennett had great games because of constantly getting past their opponent...but that is exactly what Navy wants them to do because it takes them completely out of the play and then their rushers move on to the LB's and secondary as the DL are behind the ball carrier. That is why everyone thought Bosa and Bennett had great games, but they had just 2 tackles and 3 assists together for the game. Washington didn't have a great game, but he figured out his opponent as the game went on. Washington finished the game with just 4 tackles and 1 assist but he added a sack for a huge loss. Altogether, the Navy OL played near perfectly in a way that the Bucks DL is not used to seeing. If you are an O-lineman and you let your opponent get into the backfield, and then push him in the same direction he was headed as the ball is taken from under center, the D-lineman takes himself out of the play while the ball has already passed the LOS. That is exactly why the Ohio State DL seemed totally ineffective.

Pushing Vonn Bell up into the old "Star" position of before may have provided help against the strange 12 play only Navy offense. However, that is something you don't want to do with a younger guy in the first game of the season. In Heacock's defense, Bell would have looked like a 4th LB, which may have been able to effectively take out the QB leaving just the FB and pitch-man for the LB's to worry about. Also in Heacock's old defense, Miller often would have taken a few steps back before just rushing the passer (they only tried four passes in the entire game) and recognized the run, being able to add support. For some reason though, the Buckeye defense no longer uses the Star (Bell) or the Leo, Viper, or 7-technique as in the past. That is exactly why the Silver Bullets are no more and the defense has all of this talent but something just seems strange about it.

Meyer came in and the defense has been different. I'm not throwing blame, but it is probably true that the game would have gone much better if Ohio State would have had Navy in game #3, with a couple of weeks of film to study. Altogether the defense did not play so badly. If the defense can hold every opponent to 17 points, we are looking at an undefeated season.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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CGroverL's picture

In addition to your superb comment, I'd like to add that Adolphus Washington, not Bennett or Spence, is the player that I think is the best D-lineman on the team and would be the hardest to replace if an injury happened to him. Also, I love Michael Bennett as he is technically sound as the leader of the DL, but he is undersized, especially when it comes to the DT position when it comes to the NFL, I think there will be bigger players available and don't see Bennett as a 1st rounder. I can see both Washington and Spence as 1st rounders, though. With the depth that Ohio State has on the DL even players like senior, Steve Miller, a prototypical pass rusher from the edge is getting playing time only in Spence's absence and 5 star DT Tommy Schutt is sharing but getting very few game reps. If time was spread out differently, this Ohio State team could have had possibly 10 3rd rounders or better going into the NFL draft as there is very little drop-off from starter to 2nd stringer.

Too many D-linemen and too few LB's, maybe? But to say that the DL is overrated is absurd especially after the stats they put up last year which came because double teaming an Ohio State D-lineman spells doom for QB's as an opposing OL's then 3 on 3 match-up against the other 3 DL is a fight the offense will lose more than most of the time. This NFL exec is just another Buckeye hater...my guess is that this same exec loves more than a few DL's out of the SEC.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

mrspray's picture

Then there's the fact the defensive line isn't 100% responsible for stopping the run.

Especially with the triple-option - what percentage of their plays swung way out to the outside, and how many plays up the middle did any damage?

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rdubs's picture

Actually the counter play up the middle is the only play we had no answer for.  They only ran it 3-4 times, but every time we were gouged for 20+ yards it seemed.  Again though, that isn't just on the dline, but the linebackers not to over pursue.

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Sightlygrain6's picture

Has he ever watched an Ohio State game?

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vitaminB's picture

The good news is the "executive" in question is Jerry Jones who wouldn't know NFL talent unless Jimmy Johnson pointed it out to him.

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BrooklynBuckeye's picture

...or unless it was taking his pants off.

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RubixTube's picture

you just got banned from the Ring of Honor for life.  Hope it was worth it..  +1

2 most important rules of successful businessmen:
1. Never share everything you know....

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gobucks96's picture

Which ring of honor????

CGroverL's picture

Is there really a "Ring of Honor"? I want in if there is, but the length of my......comments may keep me out because of dissention among the Buckeye family. +1 for a giggle and making me wonder if I am worthy.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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ColdBuckeye's picture

You're already in your own "Ring of Honor", CoverGirl. 

Texasbucksfan's picture

Damn, you beat me to this comment.  :)  I did UV though.  Well said

Denny's picture

If you project OSU's one (1) game defensive statistics over the entire season, OSU's D-Line is slated to literally give up infinity yards. Don't get mad at me– that's just mathematics.

Taquitos.

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

...and we'd have the greatest passing defense in the modern era.

How Firm Thy Friendship

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Denny's picture

AIN'T MEAN NOTHIN IF THEY JUST GONNA RUN ALL OVER US, PAWWWWLLL

Taquitos.

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BUCKfutter's picture

the majority of the damage done on the ground saturday was the pitch man, which is almost never the responsibility of a d lineman. not sure how having 3/4 of the starting line projected as first rounders makes it overrated. this sounds like a troll job

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CGroverL's picture

I had a troll job once. It was much better than I thought it would be.

Close your eyes, and if you are alone do it left handed so you feel that someone else is doing it.......If you are left handed then just reverse those directions and don't use shampoo. Oops this is 11W, not "Busty Asian Beauties"...I forgot. The Busty Asian Beauties was just a reference for all of you "Supernatural" fans out their. It has to be Dean's favorite book.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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BUCKfutter's picture

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

What....in the actual fuck? I'm a fan of Supernatural, but I feel like I just got mentally molested reading your posts.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

Run_Fido_Run's picture

The entire concept behind the "anonymous NFL executive" making these types of comments at nfl.com makes no sense to me. If this source really is an active personnel executive, why would he publicly air his insider "expert" takes on various players? If he thinks Ohio State's DLmen are overrated, then he doesn't have to draft them. Meanwhile, though, wouldn't he want these supposedly overrated players to be held in high esteem by everyone else? That way, anonymous might be able to draft a player that rival Exec-X otherwise might have drafted if rival Exec-X had not overrated a Buckeye DLman.

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CC's picture

There you go again - thinking for yourself.

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daytonbuckeye's picture

Maybe he wants them and is trying a Jedi mind trick. "These are not the DLinemen you are looking for". 

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

I thought about that, but if anonymous turns around and drafts one of these "overrated" Buckeye DLmen, then the bloggers at nfl.com probably wouldn't rely on him as a source, anymore. 

Nairion's picture

Why do you assume "source" refers to a person and not the author's imaginary friend?

"My source told me that Urban Meyer plays with my little ponies"...makes for good clickbait

CGroverL's picture

Did you ever see Eddie Murphy's Delirious and Raw from way back? I loved the Jedi mind trick pulled on Mr. T.

"I heard you been tellin' some jokes about me"......."No, you didn't"........"Maybe I didn't"....I'm gonna go beat up the fool that told me them lies"......

Great way to bring Star Wars into this. You deserve more than just a +1......

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

CGroverL's picture

That was deep. You almost had me confused. Very good point and points....+1

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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The Rill Dill's picture

Exactly.  This type of foolish talk, is normally spouted off by 'anonymous'.  

FROMTHE18's picture

Bennett could play himself into being a 1st round pick, Spence has the potential to be a 1st rounder, if Bosa can stay healthy he is a 1st rounder, Washington needs to dominate but should be a 2nd rounder when its all said and done. I don't know how high this dude was when he analysed the line but he's a complete idiot if he was sober. We will see if he is right starting Saturday night but on paper those guys are all 1st-2nd round potential picks. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I was gonna scout some game video until I got high
I was gonna lament not drafting Gio but then I got high
my team is still messed up and I know why (why man?) yea heyy,
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]

(La da da da da da da da da)

I was gonna go to the combine before I got high
I coulda pretended that I got those 40 times but I got high
(La da da da da da da da da)

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The Rill Dill's picture

Thanks, man.  Stuck in my head for a few days now.

nikolajz1's picture

Bennett is already projected to go around 15-16. 

CGroverL's picture

I hear ya...but Washington has built himself into a dominating inside force when he came to Ohio State as a 9-technique. He could play either inside or outside in the NFL and has the size and strength to do either. I STILL INSIST he is the best D-lineman on the squad but no one agrees with me. Bennett will have to do a lot as he is about 20 pounds underweight for a 1st round DT and doesn't fit the few 3-4 teams out there. Bennett may be the best player on the defense but he still is a little small and his 1 tackle and 1 assist against Navy didn't help. Washington is the best and no one agrees with me. He can fit, switch DL positions, and has all of the intangibles. Why am I the only one that sees this? Washington is the only one that I believe is a 1st rounder FOR SURE. Oh...and Washington is dominating...and has the best stats of all of the DL after game one. I know that game one didn't count, but he had more tackles than the other 3 starters combined and added a sack that was an 11 yard loss (I believe).

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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OSUpawn's picture

You know that one guy at work that is kinda out there.  Just seems off, or is that guy you don't get along with..... We found that guy!

I believe the SEC players put their pants on one leg at a time like we do.

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camodog's picture

When did Mark May become an "NFL personnel executive" ?

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LealmanBuckeye's picture

I'm sick of this "anonymous" crap. If you want to say something like that, grow a pair and put your name to it.

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ExpressiveBuckeye's picture

Must be a Bears coach. No concept of d line talent. 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

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gosolow2000's picture

As a long time Bears fan that hurts. Not saying you're wrong, lol, just that it hurts.

ExpressiveBuckeye's picture

No worries. My brother is a huge bears fan. I really have no room to talk as a bandwagon browns fan (which means I really have no team and I'm from ohio), but it's true. 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

JohnnyKozmo's picture

Millen doesn't evaluate any position other than WR, and he doesn't do that well.

johnjy78's picture

Wow, this guy must really be hurting for attention. He's for sure gonna get it. Or maybe Urban asked him to say that for motivational purposes...

johnjy78

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Earle's picture

George Kokinis?

Italics are for emphasis.

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DannyBeane's picture

Name me one team in college football that wouldn't cream their pants to have Bosa, Washington or Spence on their D-line...

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Squirrel Master's picture

uh, Michael Bennett too. Don't forget the highest rated and preseason AA.

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CGroverL's picture

I get your comment completely...but to me, because Bennett is a senior, he is #4 of the 4. Washington, Spence, Bosa, then the undersized Bennett. I know they list him at 288 just like Washington is listed at 288. Washington is quicker, stronger, and much more of a force and the odds on favorite to get double teamed. Plus, when they stand next to each other, you can tell that Bennett is smaller than Washington just like Dontre Wilson does not weigh 190 pounds. The problem is that you won't believe me until Adolphus Washington's senior year, which won't happen.

Bennett is the leader and has the experience while Washington got big enough to move inside but both still are keeping the bigger Schutt from playing. Too loaded on the DL and not enough LB's but Washington still gets my votes as the best. The DL NEEDS to rotate. When that can happen, these Buckeyes could hit 50 sacks.

You seem to always be "on the ball". Trust me when I say that I am, too. So you know what ratings really mean, right? He's the senior, he gets the notoriety...Washington is harder to replace though. Good luck to ya.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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b_pbucksfans's picture

We all get it man. Are you related to AW or just stalker status?

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Montana silver bullet's picture

Anyone unwilling to stand behind their comment shouldn't be taken as credible.  We know better, most of us watch every game multiple times. 

Montana Silver Bullet

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BTBuckeye's picture
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JFKBuckeye's picture

My response: LOL!!!

Unky Buck's picture

Put the bottle down, dude...

...

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Bobo Buckeye's picture

And here I thought the NFL prided themselves for not commenting on the college game.

AndyVance's picture

...and you Browns and Bengals fans wonder why you have so few Buckeyes on your squads. It's because you have front offices stacked with "anonymous NFL personnel execs."

Meanwhile in the Steel City, The Venerable Dick LeBeau is licking his chops to draft guys like Bosa and Bennett.

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camodog's picture

Could you imagine adding Joey to RDS? Steel Curtain

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

RDS is going to wreak complete havoc in LeBeau's defense and I'm not a Steelers fan.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

I absolutely despise the fact that I kind of agree with you. 

How Firm Thy Friendship

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smith288's picture

Big Daddy says hi.... But that was a while ago. :)

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CGroverL's picture

Hate the Steelers, but Dick LeBeau is the man and has been for quite a while. I hate the NFL (when comparing it to the college game) but still keep close tabs, especially on the Buckeyes....Do you really think that Bennett and Bosa are better than Washington and Spence? I'm thinking the exact opposite.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

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AndyVance's picture

Do you really think that Bennett and Bosa are better than Washington and Spence? I'm thinking the exact opposite.

Oh, I could be convinced either way, but I like alliteration. Also, Nick Bosa.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Was there any chance that particular NFL exec was a TSUN graduate?

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

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1MechEng's picture

Keep in mind that we've only played one game and haven't even seen Noah Spence yet this year!

Ask this same executive this question in about 10 weeks and see if he gives the same answer ...

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Fatpants's picture

May I propose a new headline:

"50+ year old man takes potshot, via the media, at a group of 18-22 year olds without having the balls to put his name to his words"

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Brutus1972's picture

Anonymous NFL Exec most assuredly to be fired in the near future due to insanely idiotic draft day decisions. Anonymous means that I stop listening.

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OSUBias's picture

Good. Hope they read it and show us Saturday night how not overrated they are by dominating the game.

Shitter's full

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OSUBias's picture
Obligatory:

Shitter's full

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

Upholding my oath to UV any Big Lebowski reference.

How Firm Thy Friendship

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OSUBias's picture

tThe Dude abides.

Shitter's full

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D-Day0043's picture

In my humble opinion, a "shut the f**k up Donnie" would be appropriate as well.

I am D-Day0043 and I approve this message.

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dubjayfootball90's picture

Haters gonna hate, and idiots gonna idiot

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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TobyMagic's picture

Must be a Browns exec..

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Bucksfan70's picture

lol! that's what i think. hahahaha!

“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” - Jerry Rice

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CSAR Buckeye's picture

Normally I'd think that too, but D-Line is the one position of strength on the Browns.

Bleeding-Scarlet-Grey's picture

That is why you stay anonymous with stupid opinions like that! If you really mean something grow some balls and put a face behind those asinine comments you coward!!!!

Without lies there would be no truth!

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droessl's picture

Matt Millen, is that you? 

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tosubuckeye's picture

What an inept and inaccurate statement for an NFL exec to say about our D-line pro potential, On record to say that 1st rd grades for Bennett, Bosa, and Spence; and 2nd rd grades for Schutt and Washington (and I'm only looking at upperclassmen (realize that Bosa is a 2nd yr player who may have the best upside of the group).  I don't think I'm exaggerating  in the least. In fact, another year in the system and Washington may be the best odds of sliding into the 1st rd. I call this line extremely talented and soon to be extremely and filthy rich. GO BUCKS!!!!

tosubuckeye
 

gobucks96's picture

I think we'll see this on the wall within eyesight of every member on the line..

zeversole's picture

Was it Rod Marinelli?

Bucksfan70's picture

the nfl executive who says the ohio state d-linemen are overrated is the same guy that believed trent richardson and brandon weeden were actually legitimate 1st round picks. he also thought ryan shazier wasn't big enough and carlos hyde was too slow

smh at cleveland browns exec, what an embarrassment it is to be a browns fan.. #can'tevaluatetalent

“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” - Jerry Rice

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Seabass1974's picture

Well, I'm not worried about the Va. Tech game anymore. Those guys are screwed.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

JoeAndSo's picture

The NFL should start drug testing the executives then.

Mercy is for the weak.

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DC-town's picture

Look out, Jim Irsays off the wagon again ...he gets down with whiskey Wednesday and Thirsty Thursdays

Don't let an 'unnamed nfl exec' troll you.  Spence hasn't been unleashed yet and I'm pretty sure 'da dolphus' is going to punk some hokie linemen up...Bennett, Bosa...i mean, come on

'Piss excellence' -RB

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BAR43's picture

Lets get this straight... no "elite talent"?!?! I am fairly certain Bosa had a comparable if no better year to the high all might Clowney as a freshman. Now every NFL jerkoff has been drooling over clowney, so by association how is Bosa not elite? Also I would take Bosa over Clowney in a heart beat. As mentioned by someone above, Bosa could be the next Watt, and Watt is 10x better than Clowney will ever be. Just ignant...

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cdub4's picture

I hate the JJ Watt comparisons because I dont think he is natural. More likely that Clowney is. Hard to compare Clowney and Bosa for me at this stage.

BuckeyeCrusdader's picture

It's hard to believe any NFL or NBA player is natural. I think the MLB finally has good testing, at least a lot better than other pro sports

luckynutz's picture

He grew up on Wisconsin cheese and beer brats. Thats as natural as youll find. But seriously...if you want to see unnatural. Just look behind watt at a certain ex USC LB. Who cant stay healthy for any amount of time. Has been busted for PEDs. And rhere are linka between PED use and injuries. Watt...aside from the huge nose gash last year, has remained healthy. If there is on Texan you should call out its Cushing.

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tosubuckeye's picture

The position pecking order for prospective NFL players are 1) projected franchise QB, 2) projected dominant LT, and 3) D-Linemen that are agile, hostile, mobile, and can pressure the pocket. I believe that we have #3 in abundance. GO BUCKS!!!!

tosubuckeye
 

SpielmanForPres's picture

The whole thought is ambiguous. 

Seattle Linga's picture

I am as big of a die-hard Browns fan as there is but didn't the "NFL Executives" help run the Brown's down hill a few years ago? George I think was his name and apparently they are not all genius' that work there.

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Wondering why Matt Millen didnt want his name attached to the statement.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Too funny GH - you mean the same Matt Millen that helped keep the Lions out of the playoffs all those years with all that talent? 

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

Individually there are several players on that D-line who might have damn good NFL careers, regardless of whether there is an elite talent or not. And the final chapter is not written yet on that, as several may end up as elite before all is said and done.

He must have been comparing them to the "Fearsome Foursome" of the LA Rams.

But, collectively, at the college level, I believe this is an elite D-line already. And will only get better.

Here's to YOU, Mr.unidentified NFL executive:

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.”

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steveoz49's picture

Please excuse my language, but when you attack one of the players... I take it personal.

Dear Mr NFL Exec,

    FUCK YOU!!!!

Signed,

Oz

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TUNBUCK89's picture

Probably a Virginia Tech alum trying rattle our D-line ahead of the game. They'll prove him wrong.

BucksHave7's picture

Anonymous = Coward

BucksHave7

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CTBuckeye's picture

I hope he reveals himself when draft time comes around for this "overrated" D-line...put some money where his mouth is.

Given the state of some NFL teams though, this type of dumb comment shouldn't be too surprising.

"Because we couldn't go for three"

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bigbadbuck's picture

To Mr  Anonymous.....way to put your ass out there buddy....................Nothing like risking nothing to say nothing............

Spider1944's picture

My take. If it is anonymous why even put it out there in the first place. Did you here that an anonymous Michigan coach said:?" Put whatever you like here.....

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

UpIrons's picture

It amazes me how many of these so called "experts" like to pretend that they can know everything from one game. Just one more idiot that we can prove wrong IMO.

ceegeelawrence's picture

To Whom it may Concern,

sb97's picture

So, we have heard multiple times that this line could be the best in the country.  In that sense, the line might be overrated because we haven't shown that on the field yet.  I think the potential is there but need to see it.  I would be interested to see what that exec has to say after Spence and Sprinkle are back in the mix and we are fully loaded.

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buckeyepastor's picture

This line has been touted as one that can dominate and take over.   They haven't done that yet.   I believe the potential is there, but I don't blame someone pointing out (truthfully) that it's not really been shown on the field yet.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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northernchild's picture

"they play in the big 10, right? they're overrated."

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FunZone's picture

"NFL Personnel Executive" is George Costanza speak for "Towel Boy"

I asked Braxton how his knee was before halftime at Berkeley and he said, "What up, man."

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BeatTTUN's picture

that guy can kiss both sides of my arse

Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan

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ScarletGray43157's picture

It is easy (and cowardly) to make any anonymous statement.  If the Anonymous Executive had the cojones to put his name behind his words then he would have the respect deserved to his opinion.  As it stands, he has no respect because he deserves none.

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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Larryp713's picture

I needed to talk my brother off the cliff after the Navy game. When you play Navy, or GTech, or any other triple option threat, you just need to win. Don't try to glean anything else from it. Their style is so unique it does not translate into what we Buckeye fans consider success... that is to win the B1G and play well in the playoff/bowl game. Survive the test and move on. It is why Coach Meyer said the defense didn't even review the tape - it is not relevant. 

Having said all that, one thing did come from the Navy game. Darron Lee can be a superstar for the Buckeyes. We have been looking for Grant and Kwon to be destroyers, but I would not be surprised to see Lee and Perry (Zen master) become huge contributors for this defense. Just a feeling, but watch for Lee and Perry this week. I think they will make things happen.

I think our defense is going to feast on some Hoke-que! A couple months earlier than the feast against TTUn. Go Bucks!!!

Respectfully,

Larryp713

Toilrt Paper's picture

NFL Drafts will hold the final chapter.

BrewstersMillions's picture

In an era of ever changing shapes and sizes of defensive linemen, its hard to pin one guy to a position save for your traditional 330 pound nose tackle-a position that will always have a need in the NFL. In my strictly amateur, and slightly biased\inebriated opinion, I can break down OSU's four best defensive linemen as best as I can.

Noah Spence-Probably ends up as a tweener. Too small to be an every down end (right now) not quite a linebacker. He really does have the look of a future 3-4 edge rusher with the way he uses his hands and gets to the edge of the line. If he can show a consistent inside move, he can be a real pass rushing nightmare.

Michael Bennet-fits snugly in the NFL as an explosive 3 technique. Right weight at about 300 lbs and can get up field quick. Change of direction is pretty good but his pad level sets him apart, he always seems to be the low man. That goes a long way.

Adolphus Washtington-versatile, versatile, versatile. Slow (ish) for an end, freakishly quick for a tackle. If he can play at 280 with consistent explosiveness, he is a great fit in a team that moves its players all around.

Joey Bosa-the easy comparison is going to be JJ Watt because most fans like comparing white guys to white guys but Bosa is the real deal. I don't know how anyone can watch this kid as an 19 year old man handle college juniors and seniors and not see elite level talent. This guy is in my humble opinion the surest first rounder on this entire roster when his time comes. Big, Strong, Quick, and long. Long arms, long strides-very difficult to block because of his long arms and big hands (comes off as a romance novel). Seriously though, this "NFL Executive" has to be Jerry Jones if he ignores an obvious talent like Bosa.

Just my .02

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

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Deano's picture

Most of the damage from Navy was on the perimeter (not the D-line's job)

On the few times they got burned through the middle, it was usually because they were lining up too wide (on purpose) to try to help on the perimeter.

Jabba1977's picture

And Fools Shine On!!

SECHATER77

cw823's picture

It was probably Jerry Jones, and it's pretty clear he has no clue on evaluating talent.

BSTP DeCon's picture

Just one more persons opinion I give literally no f***s about.

J.Mo's picture

Wonder if this guy was giving a unbiased opinion or not. And if he was one of those guys who let Tom Brady go to the 6th round or took Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden/Tim Tebow/etc in the first round.

PasadenaBuckeye626's picture
This was essentially my reaction

Go Bucks!

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CuseGirl's picture

Bosa is the only one so far that has really flashed and since he's done it as a freshman, he gets kudos from me.

Spence was the #10 overall recruit in the country. He'll be a third yr starter now. At this point, he really should be considered one of tOSU's top 3 players but he isn't. So when this exec says "overrated", I don't think he's saying "they all suck", he just saying they leave something to be desired. By the way, in the two games Spence played against ranked opponents, he had no sacks.

Washington has improved. Physically he was always ready but I'm curious to see if he can maintain smart play. Earlier in his career he would make a lot of dumb penalties or be caught out of position. Last Saturday there was much less of that. I doubt he's better than a third rounder though.

I haven't watched Bennett as closely as the others so I can't make any proclamation on him.

bottom line is, they will prove themselves against Va-Tech, MSU, Michigan and their bowl opponent. Simple as that. The one player who needs to produce more is Spence. That would put this overrated talk to rest.

And you know THIS....man!

mfoster's picture

Quite frankly, Mr. "unknown executive", we Buckeye fans don't give a damn about what you have to say......

*Buckeye 4 ever*

Buckeyejohn's picture

What is this executives definition of elite?? Do you have to be 6'6'' 275 lbs, run a 4.4 forty, and jump 42 inches? If Joey Bosa isn't an elite talent than either are 95% of the D-linemen taken in the NFL draft the last few years. Furthermore, Vernon Gholston had all the "elite talent" in the world, but could never put it together. Spence/Bosa/Bennett/Washington may not have elite talent, but they will put up elite numbers and be drafted in rounds 1-2. I would love for this exec to show us another college team that can say the same. 

Rudy's picture

Who cares what they think. Go Bucks!