Coaches Summit Held in Columbus

By Kyle Rowland on March 8, 2014 at 9:40p
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If ever there was a time to be a fly on the wall, it was last week at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center. That's when the offensive staffs from three of the top eight offenses – Ohio State, Clemson and Texas A&M – broke bread and shared concepts, according to CBS Sports' Bruce Feldman

The gathering included heavy hitters such as Tom Herman, Chad Morris and Jake Spavital. 

"You're not trying to change the style of offense, you're just looking for a couple of little things where you can tweak your offense," Spavital told Feldman.

The Ohio State staff was able to get a better handle on Clemson's ability to use misdirection, and A&M's screen game and the myriad of ways the Aggies block it all up. The Buckeyes' guests gained insight into how Ohio State led the nation in rushing yards per carry with their command of the Power and the Counter.

For the Aggies, it was especially helpful to pick the brain of Morris and his Clemson staff for ways they can exploit the talents of agile 6-6, 274-pound Cam Clear. The Tigers, the A&M staff had observed from previous film study, had been adept at utilizing some of their big wideouts/tight end/H-back kind of weapons in a variety of ways from different formations.

"You're talking about timing issues (within the play) about what the path of the offensive linemen are; how the quarterback's footwork should be," Spavital said. "There is a lot to be discussed and you kind of just chip away it.

"I know we got a lot of little things that made us better."

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Urban Ohio's picture

Nobody invited Bert?

Newcomerstown Trojans between Woody and Beaver.

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Kingbuck12's picture

Wow can't believe we do this. I guess this is ok? I would rather sit down with Michigan state's D-coordinator and fix our defense .    

Kingbuck12

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rufio's picture

It is pretty common for coaches to do, and considering they are out of conference I don't think it is a huge disadvantage for us. Most teams know what we're doing anyway, and we've only played Clemson once since Hayes' day. I agree that the defense needs more work, but we have new coaches there and an intra-conference exchange is a lot less common.

In coaching you either adapt, or you die. It is good to see us meeting with some of the brightest minds in college ball, IMO.

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Kyle Rowland's picture

This is extremely common. Staffs get together all the time during the offseason. Ohio State and Clemson actually met a few years ago. Buckeyes were also in Gainesville when Urban was head coach. 

faux_maestro's picture

And I believe Tressel and staff did this in 2001 with Miami. Yes, the Miami that we went on to beat the next season for all the Tostitos.

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2002osubuck's picture

 Getting Ash and Johnson brought in a ton of new insight and that's why the coaches aren't saying anything about the D specifically. They say it's gonna be an aggressive style and the players say its simpler to play faster, but that's it, so gotta believe they've got the D they want. I think Ash's simpler but detail oriented scheme will excel with the best athletes he's ever worked with. The spring games gonna be interesting.

SilverBullet33's picture

These offseason meeting between staffs always have me fascinated. These guys are all competitors and often wonder how the dynamics work out.  This appears to be fairly common these days. I mean there are nuances these guys don't share, right?

rufio's picture

I'm obviously not a coach at the level of OSU's staff, but from what I've seen you usually share everything you have time for. There are about 8 hours of footage out there of the legendary Alex Gibbs (his system made 1000 yard rushers and stars out of afterthoughts such as Terrelle Davis, Arian Foster, Alfred Morris, etc) sharing with Urban Meyer at Florida. They discuss every little detail.

You're not going to have time to cover every play in the book, but you likely share all the details about a few specific plays.

EDIT: That video can be found here.

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bdegroff's picture

Bert no do offense does he?? Its to fast says he!!

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Kingbuck12's picture

I hope we keep some things private. But i bet these guys love picking each other's brains. 

Kingbuck12

Chief B1G Dump's picture

Im sure the all kept an ace up their sleeves and/or only shared a piece of their pie.

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

I dig it.
Power luncheon to share trade secrets.

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betiobuckeye's picture

That's awesome! It's sounds like something that is good for the sport in general.

teddyballgame's picture

I kind of like Texas A&M a little bit.  Sumlin is a good HC and I like how they've come into the SEC and shaken it up.

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rufio's picture

With all the speed at receiver and "the Percy Position" we have coming in...I would love to see us get the ball to guys like Wilson, Campbell, Samuel in the same way that Clemson used Watkins.

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buckskin's picture

Herman looks like a reporter just asked him if he was getting replaced by Chad Morris.

Go1Bucks's picture

The fact that our press box coaches were unable to pick up the mis direction used by _ichigan, _ichigan State and Clemson - when most arm chair fans could from the tv still defies logic.  Hope this meeting woke them up.

Go Bucks!

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PittBuckeye's picture

I think everyone knew what they were doing I'd assume Luke watches the game with at least 1 eye open, the problem was stopping it. They had so many problems last year that every time they plugged up one leak another bigger one sprung open. 

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sivaDavis's picture

I would love for you to control the Ohio State defense for one game against Chad Morris and Clemson and see if he doesn't hang half a hundred on your head. The coaches actually did the best they could with how leaky the defense was. People forget that it ended a 5 point loss. Ohio State's offense had 4 turnovers, Clemson out gained us in both passing and rushing yards as well. The defense could've done better, a lot better, but I think surprisingly the defense was why we were in this game until the end. People saw the big plays yes, but they didn't see the stops as well.

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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rock flag and eagle's picture

but I think surprisingly the defense was why we were in this game until the end

OSU was in it until the end, but I have a tough time giving the defense credit for that.  When you let your opponents complete more than 77% of their passes, and rush for more than 5 yards/carry, you're not keeping your team in the game.  I'd be more likely to cite Clemson's self-inflicted wounds (15 penalties for 144 yards).  At times, the referees and Clemson boneheadedness did more to slow Clemson down and shift field position than the OSU defense.

People saw the big plays yes, but they didn't see the stops as well.

The average OSU opponent converted 35.6% of third downs.  Clemson converted 53.8%.  Yeah, the defense forced some stops, but they did so at a worse rated than usual.  If they had performed at their average level, OSU wins.  The defense performed even worse than usual.  OSU lost.

northwoods buckeye's picture

Completing 77% of your passes is easier when there are a large percentage of screen passes. Defending the screen has been a glaring issue for the last few years. Hopefully, getting some input on how those offenses are run will translate into better preparation for the defense. 

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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

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sivaDavis's picture

So what if OSU's offense doesn't turn it over 4 times? And yeah Boyd threw about 15 screen passes to Watkins and Co so it's not hard to complete 77% of your passes when they are just giving it to you, Chad Morris saw that and took advantage. And all the if's are just stupid. If they had done this, if they had done that. You can say alot of if's. If Tajh Boyd would have committed to Ohio State and not Clemson they might have won the Orange Bowl. If Sammy Watkins turned pro last year they would have won the Orange Bowl... Fact is, if you watch the game, OSU's offense was alright, you talk about the defense stats against Clemson, look at the offensive stats. If they don't turn it over 4 times and reach their season average for rushing yards then they might win the game..

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

Kingbuck12's picture

We need to do whatever Clemson did to us. And find our inner Watkins. That was bad. 

Kingbuck12

buckskin's picture

6'6", 274 and agile?  I thought Orlando Pace was sending all his kids to OSU??? 

#Conspiracy

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PittBuckeye's picture

So Clemson's staff turned on Madden and introduced everyone to the vaunted WR screen, many oooh's, as well as several ahhh's followed.

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BeijingBucks's picture

Sammy Watkins reminds me of one of the comments from an opposing db comparing David Boston to a full grown man beside boys

 

 

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seafus26's picture

Did they ask how they made their starting QBs accurate and give their receivers a chance to catch in stride? I can't stand Manzeil but he was doing that first year of getting starter reps? We're still waiting

Go Bucks and michigan STILL SUCKS!

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45has2's picture

The QB that could do that just matriculated.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

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allinosu's picture

+1 Rufio for that link. It's amazing how much play calling could change with just one replacement on the O line because of different talents on reaching or speed to the corner or being able to adjust quickly enough. An OC must know the strengths and weaknesses of every offensive player on the team and who is in the game at all times and the knowledge to adjust his play calling. It's amazing how much of the play book condenses with one replacement. All the while keeping tract on whose is in on defense and their talents. Enlightened

FROMTHE18's picture

good idea. Put ego aside and work towards improving yourself. Kind of ironic that we are teaching them who to run the ball better, yet we refused to give Hyde the ball down the stretch of both of our losses. 

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hetuck's picture

I remember when Bollman visited RichRod at WVU in 2005. You saw the result in 2006. It is common to consort with teams not on your schedule, but you don't bare all. IIRC, Beckman used to host a summit on how to defend the spread. 

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rdubs's picture

This has to help a young guy like Zach Smith the most.  An easy way to get exposure to a bunch of offensive geniuses.

ChazBuckeye's picture

It's always good for coaches to collaborate with other coaches, especially when they're Tom Herman, Chad Morris and  Jake Spavital.  This will only help all three football teams to adjust some aspects here and there.  I really hope to see OSU utilizing more misdirection as well as more screens with Marshall, EzE, Wilson and possibly Samuel.  I would think it's pretty difficult to tackle those guys in space.  

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Ashtabula's picture

This is extremely common.  Most coaches make it a priority to travel to somebody's facility at least once an offseason, not to mention hosting numerous other coaches (NFL, DI, DII, DIII and high school) simply to talk football.  Plus, these meetings become important for the assistants as they network themselves for future job opportunities.

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Knarcisi's picture

I hope Herman took some notes on the WR screen back to Fickell.