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Well, It Was the Height of Disco

The Quad has a fascinating interview with Michael Rosenberg, author of the new book War as They Knew It, a look at Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler in the turbulent years of Woody's final decade on the sidelines.

While most books on this topic focus solely on the football rivalry between the two, Rosenberg gathers "quite a bit of social history" in the book as well. Woody's friendship with Nixon is explored as are his visits to Vietnam in support of the war. On Woody's use of war metaphors*:

Woody did make that comparison almost every day of his coaching career. These days, whenever somebody compares football to war, the media erupts –- the basic assumption is that the athlete or coach does not appreciate the gravity of real warfare. But Woody certainly appreciated it. He was a Navy captain and military history buff. He never made the comparison lightly, but he did make it constantly.

The rest of the interview is pretty meaty and definitely worth a read. As for the book -- I haven't read it yet, but will be doing so with a quickness after this tantalizing passage:

Q: If you could have interviewed Woody Hayes, what would you have asked him about?

A: My questions would probably be pretty specific: How much did Nixon’s resignation influence his view on quitting his own job? Did he have any idea one of his quarterbacks was doing cocaine in the huddle? How much did his diabetes influence his temper? Then we would just see where the conversation took us.

Believe me, I wish I had the chance to talk to Woody Hayes. As a sportswriter, I’ve had a chance to cover some unusual people, but Woody Hayes is the most fascinating person I have ever covered, and I never even got to talk to him.

I have a pretty good guess who it might have been blowing down in the huddle, but I'm withholding judgement until I find out myself or someone that has read the book or knows of this story fills us in.

* I've often felt nervous putting out the war photoshops on game day because of this potential for criticism, but vets or current members of the military, please know that we don't in any way think the game of football is anywhere near as serious as something like combat. Oh, and many thanks for your service.

Don't Look Now, but Buckeye Hoops Start Tonight

Thad embarks on coaching another young team.

While visions of revenge on the Illini dance in your head, the Buckeye hoopsters start their season tonight with a exhibition tilt against NAIA Division II Walsh University, who has already played three games.

The Cavaliers lost an exhibition game to Akron 83-81, but have won two regular season games by an average of 43 points. Thad Matta doesn't have a senior on his team, so this could be an interesting contest. Perhaps that is why the BTN execs decided to spare us, airing the game only on webcast.

I personally think this Buckeye team can make it back to the dance, if they gel earlier than last year and a couple of go-to players emerge, starting with tonight. It may be tough to watch on your computer screen, but here are a few things to look for if you are able to catch the game.

1. Improvement from last year: There is no doubt Evan Turner and Dallas Lauderdale are going to play key roles in any Buckeye success. Turner showed flashes of brilliance throughout his freshman season and was the only Buckeye picked for preseason honors this year. However, he had a bad habit of turning the ball over and with an expected increase in touches, Tuner has to take better care of the rock if OSU is to have success.

I think Dallas Lauderdale could be the key to Ohio State's season. The sophomore banged against Kosta Koufos in practice last year and dominated BJ Mullins in the early going of camp this year. He won't see the floor tonight due to injury, but he is on the verge of returning and will be ready to go in the opener next week, just in time to be the breakout player in the Big Ten, hopefully.

2. Point Guard Competition: For the first time in three years, Ohio State has a question mark at point guard. I appreciate P.J. Hill's effort, but OSU is in deep trouble if they have to rely on him to lead this team. The competition should be between JUCO transfer Jeremie Simmons and freshman Anthony, don't call me Noopy, Crater.

Chris was impressed with both of them during the open practice, enjoying their contrasting styles and competitive nature. Simmons will look for his shot when available, but Crater is more of a distributor.

3. Will Mullens follow Diebler's footsteps: Jon Diebler's shooting struggles from last year are well known and he came from a Division II school. BJ Mullins played in the same division and is rated by Rivals as the top player in the country. If Mullens can give Ohio State a legit inside presence and show the toughness it takes in the Big Ten, the driving lanes for Lighty and Turner should open up, creating an exciting team to watch.

4. Man defense vs. Match up zone: Thad had to implement the deadly match up zone just three days before the regular season last year, due to the inability of the bigs to recover after a screen. This move forced OSU to mostly play a 3/4 court match up zone, which gave teams absolute fits and the Bucks finished in the top 10 in FG defense. I'm sure we will see man defense against Walsh, but tonight's performance could determine which route Matta has to take.

5. Freshmen Impact: Besides BJ Mullens and Crater, Thad brought in William Buford and Walter Offut, two wing players who will add depth to the Bucks rotation. Buford is a slashing scorer who should instantly help the offense, while Offut looks to be fully recovered from his knee injury last year, it just may take some time for him to get back on track.

Further previews can be found at The Ozone and Bucknuts, with rosters at the Dispatch.

11W Weekend Update: Sponsored by Minute Maid

Pondering his greatness

I'm subbing for Corey this week and as luck would have it, I get to talk about perhaps the least exciting weekend of this college football season. Seriously, not one compelling matchup nationally or in the Big Ten. Thankfully the Buckeyes kickoff early this week, because it's shaping up as a Saturday to actually get something done after things close in Champaign.

I suppose the OBC's return to Florida is worthwhile because it does pit two ranked teams, but is there anyone that doesn't think Tebow of Nazareth will guide the Gators to a 30+ point victory?

So now that I have you totally stoked, here's what's on deck tonight and this weekend.

National Games

Virginia Tech @ Miami, Thurs. 7:30PM ET - ESPN
Both the Hokies and Hurricanes are tied with North Carolina at 3-2 atop the ACC Coastal division and this game is the first of many over the next three weeks that will help whittle the six to eight teams left in contention down to the two that will meet in the conference championship game. The Canes are riding a four-game winning streak, but will be without the services of starting left tackle Jason Fox. That should make my sworn lifetime mission statement of rooting against Miami all the easier.

#22 Cincinnati @ Louisville, Fri. 8:00PM ET - ESPN2
Chances are you know a Bearcat fan pretty well. You may even have one in the family. Always the little brother in the state, they now have something to crow about after a thriller in Morgantown last weekend. With that win, Cincinnati avenged one of their three losses last season. They'll get a chance to avenge their loss to Louisville this weekend will have a chance at the third team to beat them last season, Pittsburgh, next week. If Kelly takes this team to a BCS Bowl, he'll likely be somewhere else soon -- just in case any of you are starting to get antsy about a potential Buckeye state recruiting nuisance.

#13 Georgia @ Auburn, Sat. 12:30PM ET - ESPN360
After entering the season ranked #1, it's been a rough ride for Mark Richt's Dawgs. The thumpings at the hands of Alabama and Florida have Georgia battling for 2nd place in the SEC East and an invitation to a 2nd tier bowl (don't scoff -- your beloved Buckeyes might end up playing them). Auburn has been nothing short of terribly mediocre this season, staring down a 5-5 record after also entering with high hopes. They won't get the relief they're seeking this week as Georgia will probably be in the mood to take out some frustrations.

#24 South Carolina @ #4 Florida, Sat. 3:30PM ET
Florida has looked as good as anybody lately and on paper, this game shouldn't be close. But Gator fans are finding reasons to be nervous and Spurrier usually has something special cooked up for games like these. With a win, Florida would then just need to finish off Citadel and Florida State before their epic showdown in Atlanta with Alabama on December 6th.

Troy @ #21 LSU, Sat. 8:00PM ET - ESPN360
No, this game should not be a good one. And no, you can't project hypothetical matchups based on how teams play against a common foe, but I'm going to tune in anyway to see what maybe, might, kinda happen if the Buckeyes and Tigers were to play again this season.

Big Ten Games

Northwestern @ Michigan, Sat. 12:00PM ET - ESPN2
How low has your program fallen? Low enough to not even rate a full preview from the WWL -- just the stats, thank you. Northwestern has a history of giving the Wolverines fits in years they shouldn't and this year, they're about as evenly matched as they ever will be. The game is in Ann Arbor and the Wildcats are still banged-up, but Sheridan the Great will be at the helm, so all bets are off.

Purdue @ Iowa, Sat. 12:00PM ET - BTN
The Hawkeyes will be attempting to build on that big win against Penn State last weekend and should have no problems with Purdon't. The only questions are whether future Silver Football winner Shonn Greene will top a hundie again (he will) and whether the fine Boilermaker blogs in the Big Ten will completely shift to basketball coverage without saying another word on the 2008 football season.

Minnesota @ Wisconsin, Sat. 3:30PM ET - ABC
The coaches don't like each other. The players don't like each other. And a sharp object is up for grabs this weekend in Madison. The Gophers will be without Eric Decker and might be playing with a little bit of a hangover after dropping a tough one to Michigan last week while the Badgers should be coming in on a high after racking up 55 on Indiana. Sure, it's Indiana, but 55 in a Big Ten game is worth noticing.

Ghost Stories

The Big Ten's first star

Every college football program can look back to its litany of great players – even this one – but there are a few players who served as the virtual foundation of a program’s destiny. Ohio State has Chic Harley, Army has Doc Blanchard and USC has Frank Gifford.

Illinois has Red Grange. Red Grange put Illinois and what became the Big Ten Conference on the map, and then did the same for the pros.

Red Grange was born in Pennsylvania but attended high school in Wheaton, Illinois, where his father became a police chief. Grange earned 16 varsity letters by playing football, basketball baseball and running track. To earn extra money for his family, he took a job as an ice-carrier (back in the days when ice was hauled to your house by truck) and earned the local nickname “Ice Man" (and you thought he had it first).

Putting the Midwest on the Map

Grange came to Illinois determined to run track and perhaps play basketball, but was persuaded by friends and connections back home to try out for football. Grange scored three touchdowns in his first game, a whipping of Nebraska. Illinois rode Grange to an undefeated season and a 1923 national title. In the days when college football fans tended to pay attention to teams on both coasts, Red Grange made Midwest football a factor.

In 1924, Illinois hosted heavily-favored Michigan for the dedication of Memorial Stadium. Grange returned the opening kickoff 95 yards for a touchdown, then scored three additional touchdown runs of 56, 44 and 67 yards in the game’s first twelve minutes; Michigan had not given up more than four touchdowns in 1922 or 1923 combined. A winded Grange sat out the second quarter, then ran for a fifth touchdown and passed for a sixth. Michigan’s 20-game winning streak was over, and Red Grange vaulted to national prominence. He played offense, defense and special teams during the 1924 season, showing elusiveness and a burst in the open field that defied description. Chicago sportswriter Warren Brown dubbed Grange “The Galloping Ghost.”

Grange’s career numbers don’t seem overly impressive today – a 5.3 yards-per-carry average and 31 touchdowns scored. But he was a magnificent all-around player, and his exploits were wired across the country – he even appeared on the cover of an October issue of Time Magazine. And – yes – he beat Ohio State three straight times and twice in Columbus. The Buckeyes did a good job of containing Grange, though, and lost the three games by scores of 9-0, 7-0 and 14-9. Illinois coach Bob Zuppke said "I will never have another Grange, but neither will anyone else. They can argue all they like about the greatest football player who ever lived, but I was satisfied I had him when I had Red Grange."

On to the Pros

George Halas signed Grange to a Bears contract the day after he played Ohio State in the season finale, then sent him on a 67-day barnstorming tour, from which Grange would get $3000 and a cut of the gate. Red’s decision to go pro was enormously unpopular with college administrators. “I’d have been more popular with the colleges if I had joined Capone’s mob in Chicago rather than the Bears,” Grange said.

Grange was just as smooth off the field

In an era when most professional football players earned about $85-$100 per game, Grange finished the tour with a cool $100,000 in his pocket. Though television would help make professional football the juggernaut it is today, Grange’s presence on the Bears legitimized the “mercenary” NFL at a time when college football was far more popular with the public. He appeared before a crowd of 65,000 in New York, and the proceeds from that game saved the Giants franchise from bankruptcy.

In 1927, the 5’11”, 175-pounder suffered a serious knee injury that permanently limited the speed and “hip-wiggle” that made him such a dangerous player. Grange was no longer the greatest player that ever lived; now he was just an exceptional one. He missed the 1928 season as a result of the knee injury, and finished his career in 1934. In the unofficial 1932 championship game, it was Grange who caught the winning touchdown pass from Bronco Nagurski; in 1933, his tackle at the goal line preserved another title for the Bears. Chicago won two championships thanks to the heroics of a man who was a shadow of his former self.

Life After Football

Grange was Frank Gifford before there was a Frank Gifford. He was the first professional football player to be widely showered with lucrative endorsement deals, and even starred in two movies and a 12-part cinematic serial – “The Galloping Ghost.” Grange had a career in speaking and radio, and lived quietly with his wife of fifty years. The Galloping Ghost developed Parkinson’s in the last year of his life, and died in 1991.

Legacy

It’s easy to make the argument that it was Red Grange who put Midwestern football on the map. A few programs had established themselves - Michigan, Ohio State and Nebraska, for example – but it was Grange who became the face of Midwestern football. He was not just a great player – he was a media star.

ESPN named Grange one of the top 25 college players of all time, and he was the only unanimous choice of the Football Writers Association of America in 1969 when it named its all-century team. Let’s hope Ohio State kicks the crap out of Illinois this weekend - while remembering how instrumental Red Grange was in making Big Ten football what it is today. Remember Red Grange when you watch the NFL on Sunday. Grange laid the bedrock for modern football.

Presser Notes: Illinois Week

JT Money flows like GZA (via Tressel's World)

In yesterday's presser, Coach Tressel didn't spend any time reflecting on the pasting of Northwestern in his opening statement instead jumping right into Saturday's tilt in Champaign while touching on a Veteran's Day field trip to the Statehouse.

You know, we spend so much time focusing only on W's, L's, X's and O's, it's easy to overlook the things Tressel does to positively impact his players and expose them to real life outside of the program.

When asked about the field trip, Tressel expanded on why they went to the Statehouse and on the program's relationship/connection with family and members of Lima Company, a Columbus based part of the Third Battalion, 25th Marines, Fourth Marine Division:

We went down to the Statehouse, and being Veteran's Day, today was the last day that that display was up in the rotunda of the Lima Company, and it just so happened that we didn't plan it or know it, but the artist who did all the portraits was there because it was the last day and they were packing it up and moving it to the next city and it was really special for our guys because a lot of the Lima Company have come through here over the last few years and some of their families of the lost have come into practice, so we've had a little connection with that over the years. Remember A.J. Hawk carried their flag on senior day and carried it with him in the Michigan game, carried it with him in the bowl game. So we have a connection with that, so we thought it was -- since we didn't have school today that we'd go to the Statehouse and it was neat. The artist was there. There was one of the Company there that, again, we didn't plan that and it was pretty neat for our guys.
Good stuff, right there...

Of course, Tressel's efforts to teach his players about what real life is truly about in an effort to mold them into upstanding citizens doesn't always pan out as evidenced by the laundry list of felony charges facing former crazed lineman, T.J. Downing. As Tressel notes, transitioning to real life can be a hard chore after years in the Buckeye limelight:

Those things hurt, you know, and I haven't had a chance to talk with him and I don't know, I'm not judge and jury, I don't know what allegedly is the case or not the case, but anytime you hear of something as disappointing, even if it's alleged, that puts a knot in your stomach and it just reminds you that it's a difficult transition. Look at all these cameras and all this stuff and then two years later, there aren't all this cameras and all this stuff and that's not an easy transition and it's just a reminder that we've got to keep working hard to -- I don't want to get on the pulpit, but there's a bigger difference between what you do and who you are. Sometimes, I hate to say it, because of all this and because of aunts and uncles and everyone else telling us we're out of this world, we start thinking that what we do is what gives us our value and we've just got to keep working on helping ourselves understand that it's who we are that really is important, but it hurts. I guess a shorter answer to a tough question, it hurts.
For all the double-talk usually coming from Tressel, particularly in his presser's, you gotta love the comment "there's a bigger difference between what you do and who you are."

Okay, with all the serious and non-football stuff covered, Tressel talked about Illinois, particularly the dymanic duo of Juice Williams and Arrelious Benn:

Juice Williams is coming along such that when I thought early in the year when I first saw him again that he was throwing the ball with a lot more velocity, a lot more assurance. He's had a couple balls bounce off hands into the other folks and those things that happen when you throw it a little bit more. But obviously he runs the ball extremely well and you better keep it away from Number 9 because if you let Number 9 have it, whether it's in the pass game, the run game, don't punt to him, don't kick off to him, because he can make it happen, so we've got a great challenge ahead of us in terms of when they're trying to move the football.
After watching Illy run out the clock last year with The Drive That Grayed My Hair, solving Juice is clearly the key Saturday.

Tressel downplayed any revenge factor after the Illini punched OSU in the mouth then flicked their sack by dancing on the O, but you gotta think the players haven't forgotten:

I haven't heard it brought up. I remember being out in the middle of the field. My take on it was that they were excited that that was a heck of a win against a good team because I thought we were a good team. I didn't take it as if it was any demonstration of -- now, the league did, obviously, because the league looked at it and said that neither team, in their opinion, handled the post game as well as it could be handled, but it was in and out and we were on to the next game. It wasn't talked about for even 24 hours here.
Considering the Buckeyes haven't lost a conference road game in nearly three and a half years, I hope they brought their dancin' shoes. I'm not a fan of showing a lack of class, but I'll be glad to excuse it against Zook.

One last thing slighty related to Illinois. When asked about the Big Ten Network's running documentary on the Illini program and whether or not he'd ever approve that at Ohio State, the answer you knew was coming, well, came:

Anything that could distract what we're trying to do, I don't think helps. So most of the time I try to keep things we do toward how can it help us and I don't know as I analyze, maybe longterm something like that could help us because more exposure and all that, but I think about what's going on here now and what's the best thing for us today so I probably wouldn't, but I'm old-fashioned, everyone knows that.
That's probably for the best. I don't think most of could handle watching locker room shots of Rehring and Bollman partaking in a gravy chugging contest with Saine repeatedly, unwittingly, walking directly into various defensive players milling about in the background.

Back to serious topics, Tressel had some nice things to say about Pryor after his strong showing in windy Evanston. As we noted in the recaps, Pryor threw the ball with more confidence and velocity which Tressel largely attributed to improved footwork:

Well, his feet were much improved, which that was our goal, and if your feet are with you, it doesn't matter what sport it is, if your feet are right, you have a chance to do the best you can do and I thought his feet were much better. Now, when you have good protection, it's a lot easier to have good feet. The one that he threw early to Brian Hartline down the field, great job by Mike Brewster coming back and cutting that guy after he delivered to the right guard, another guy, but that guy was tumbling through the air and landing at Terrelle's feet and Terrelle's feet were still good, which I thought was a great sign because some people, when bodies are flying, all of a sudden their feet start getting nervous and so I think his feet was the biggest thing.
I think all of us are interested in seeing two of the most dynamic QB's in the conference (I know, big whoop) square off.

On the injury front, a flurry of updates were given:

REPORTER: Do you have an injury update, Denlinger, Hines? COACH TRESSEL: Denlinger worked today. Jermale didn't work much today, but you never know couple days after. I'll be more worried if he doesn't work tomorrow. Mo Wells didn't work today. I'm trying to think who else. REPORTER: Gibson? COACH TRESSEL: Thaddeus worked a lot more today than he did last Tuesday, yeah, that was good to see. REPORTER: Ben Person? COACH TRESSEL: Ben Person, we think, can get back for the bowl game, which a week or so ago, we weren't sure, but he seems to be doing better than some thought he might. REPORTER: Did he have his surgical procedure? COACH TRESSEL: Yeah, he did.

As expected, Tressel noted OSU will be without the services of Ray Small but other than that, he would only say Small has a chance to work himself back in. After last week's media smack down, the reporters opted not to ask any other questions on the topic.

Real quick before I finish up, I liked Tressel's explanation as to why OSU likes to take the ball if they win the toss:

We didn't start doing that until last year and that was because kicking from the 30, we thought that you have a chance even with an average return to be out to the 25. When the ball was being kicked from the 35 and so many balls were going as touchbacks, we didn't necessarily think that that's an advantage starting on the 20, so we thought, well, let's begin the game with some field position. We've won the toss a lot this year. It's amazing.
Makes sense to me. Of course, it would make more sense if guys like Flash were in there all season instead of watching Saine seek tacklers or Rasta chest bump kickoffs out of bounds.

Anyway, that's the big chunks except a subtle yet funny exchange in which Tressel appears to not understand the word "ostensibly " as used in reporter's question, only to then use the term in his responses throughout the rest of the presser. You know he was telling Ellen about it later. I love it.

Buckeye NFLer of the Week: 10

Gamble even enjoys tackling these days.

I must admit, I didn't get to watch as much NFL as I normally would for this week. The unfortunate part of traveling to Chicago is the trip back on Sunday and the inability to form complete sentences until Monday night.

However, after looking at the important games that included former Buckeyes and getting some help from Flip, it wasn't that hard of a decision for this week's award.

The duo of Michael Jenkins and Ted Ginn continued their improvement of late with strong performances in their team's win. Jenkins had his fourth straight 50+ yard game, with 6 catches for 72 yards in Atlanta's 34-20 win over New Orleans. The six catches were a season high for MJ, as the Falcons stayed one game out of first in the NFC South.

Teddy started Miami's scoring with a 39 yard TD catch, capping off an 11 play, 90 yard drive to open the game. On the day, Ginn lead the team with 4 catches for 67 yards and returned 3 kick-offs for an average of 29 yards in Miami's 21-19 win over Seattle. The Dolphins have now won three straight and sit just one game back in the AFC East.

Antonio Pittman got the start again for St. Louis, but struggled on the ground, gaining only 28 yards on 13 carries in the Rams 47-3 loss to the Jets. Surprisingly Pitt lead the Rams in receiving yards with 38 on two catches and now has 14+ touches in each of the last three games.

On the defensive side of things, our man Antoine Winfield and Mike Vrabel helped their teams pull off much needed victories to pull even with their respective division leaders.

Winfield recorded 6 tackles and helped hold the Packers to 184 total yards, as no Green Bay wideout went for more than 46 yards in Minnesota's come from behind 28-27 victory. Meanwhile, Vrabel had 5 stops, including one for a loss, in New England's 20-10 home victory over the Donte Whitner-less Bills.

For the second time in four weeks though, Chris Gamble takes home the Buckeye NFLer of the week for his performance in Carolina's ugly 17-6 win at Oakland. It pains me to give this to someone playing against the Raiders, but Gamble's interception early in the fourth at the Carolina 39 helped seal the win.

Gamble's stats also included 5 tackles, one for a loss and 2 passes broken up, as the Panthers have won 5 of their last 6 and hold a one game lead in the NFC South. The Raider wide receivers were held to 2 catches for 27 yards, while the entire passing game misfired to the tune of 147 total yards and 3 turnovers.

I said it last time he won, if the Panther's defense continues their dominance, Gamble has to get some consideration for All-Pro. He has already set a career high in passes defended with 15 (4th highest in the league) and is on pace to break his career high of 75 tackles. They play the Lions this weekend, so another win is on the horizon.

Bowlin'... Bowlin'... Bowlin'

With just two games remaining in this bittersweet season, it's time to start thinking winter travel plans. You're all well-versed on the current situation, but just in case you found out about the Buckeyes today, here's where we're at:

  • Michigan State sits atop the Big Ten standings with a 6-1 record. The Spartans have a bye before traveling to Happy Valley to close the regular season.
  • Penn State and Ohio State are both tied with 5-1 conference marks. The Buckeyes head to Illinois before finishing with Michigan at home. The Fightin' JoePas welcome Indiana and Michigan State to town in their final two games.
  • As far as the Rose Bowl is concerened, Ohio State owns the head-to-head tie-breaker over Michigan State, while Penn State holds that same mark over the Buckeyes.
Miami is nice

So, let's get this out of the way first: there will not be a three-way tie for the championship. Indiana will not be beating this Penn State team anytime soon. The finale in State College between the Spartans and Nittany Lions is the Big Ten championship.

The Buckeyes can earn a share of that as well. It's not a gimme -- trips to Champaign still scare the holy crap out of me -- but Ohio State should be able to win out. (And I know that anything can happen in The Game... rivalry and all, but let's be serious about that one.)

So, you have three teams that all control their own destiny: win out and receive at least a share of the Big Ten title. For the Buckeyes, that means four straight and though this senior class fell a bit short of some bigger goals, winning four straight conference championships does not suck.

But how will it shake out?

As much as I'll be pulling for Sparty in two weeks, I think Penn State wins that game. That will put Penn State in the Rose Bowl against either USC or the same Oregon State team they blitzed earlier in the season. If it is USC, then Nittany Lion fans will find out first-hand just how potent that Trojan team is.

If Ohio State wins out, they're 10-2 and probably somewhere in the top 7 or so in the final BCS rankings. Almost a lock for a 6th BCS bowl appearance in the last seven years -- which despite all of the heartbreak lately is quite amazing.

Orange Bowl officials were on hand to take in the Northwestern game and the speculation is that they'd love to have Ohio State. Miami is a tempting January destination for those looking to escape winter and it's intriguing for both the team and fans because the Buckeyes have played in exactly one Orange Bowl -- and that was 32 years ago.

The ACC champ, which could be one of four or so mediocre teams, is the most likely opponent in the Orange Bowl, but another interesting option has the Buckeyes going as an at-large to the Sugar Bowl to take on the loser of the SEC championship, while other projections have Ohio State meeting Texas in the Fiesta Bowl.

I know there are grave concerns about the offensive line, but I'd relish the chance to face-off with that SEC runner-up or Texas. The 50+ days off are going to be a benefit this season because Pryor will be playing like a sophomore by the time that game rolls around. Beanie should also be pretty darn healthy and the defense is closing in a manner that reflects all of the talent on that side of the ball. Respectful, but not afraid.

Bama would probably be the friendliest of those possible elite foes. Sure, they have great trench play, but they don't exactly strike fear into my heart. Ditto with Texas. McCoy is having a fantastic season, but Schnellenberger was on to something earlier this season (though in the end, his team didn't have the talent to prove him right). This stems from my belief that Texas, Georgia and Ohio State are all very similar in terms of intestinal fortitude these days.

I know it's been discussed a ton as of late, but where do you want to see the team play? Who is the best team you'd like to see the Buckeyes take on? Any takers on USC? Tebow?

Former Buckeyes: The Line is a Mess

Better days for Boeckman

We didn't get to this before the game, but the Dispatch's Rob Oller spent some time talking to former Buckeyes about a variety of topics some of which included the play of the line, Bollman and the handling of the quarterback situation.

On the subject of the offensive line, the vets are seeing the same thing we are all seeing:

The verdict seems to be split between a lack of talent and lack of proper teaching. One thing all the former players agreed upon -- and there were several who played on the O-line way back when -- is that this year's line has shown little ability to fire off the ball and knock the defense backward.

And this disheartening nugget:

More than once I heard "They don't even use the blocking sled in practice anymore."

Awesome. They must still be doing that cross-training they mentioned doing in the offseason. Perhaps the line has been busy learning how to look defensive backs off before making a throw. Or about which hand to carry the ball with when you're ripping down the right sideline.

It was also interesting to note the chorus of players coming down on the decision to bench Boeckman. Dustin Fox does not appear to be a fan of how it was handled:

"You don't bench a sixth-year senior who led you to the national championship game after one bad game. I think I'd play Todd Boeckman. Those seniors came back and now you're putting the season in the hands of a freshman? That would be difficult to swallow."

I get that it must be tough for the seniors to see their final season turned over to a freshman quarterback who will be learning on the job, but those same seniors probably realize that if the line had come out and played like we all envisioned it would, Todd Boeckman would still be the starting quarterback and Pryor would be dazzling us in mop-up time.

To be fair, the article came out a day before Pryor torched the Wildcats, but the switch at quarterback was the right move. Further, the choice to forgo the platoon system has also been the correct one.

Pryor has the skill to succeed at this level and now he's collecting that other vital component, experience. He's almost fully assembled and then it's over.

Blogpoll: Week 11

With Texas Tech in the middle of potentially surviving a scheduling gauntlet coupled with Bama's mediocre showing against LSU, we've moved Tech into the top spot.

Admittedly, our heads are still beyond cloudy after getting together in Chicago over the weekend so consider this an even rougher first draft than usual.

What's your take on Penn State? We put 'em 7th, aka the last of the one loss squads, because we just don't think Boise or Utah deserve a spot ahead of the Lions. What say you?

1 Texas Tech What can we say other than we are believers. The offense is sick and they appear to be the only team in the Big 12 with a defense. Is Harrell your Heisman front runner? 40/50, 426 yards and 6 TD. Now that is a stat line. Next up: @ Oklahoma. UP2
2 Alabama We dropped 'Bama to #2 and frankly, while they're deserving of the spot based on record, we don't think they are currently the second best team in the country. To their credit, they did pull out the W in an OT nailbiter but their own poor play kept it close. JPW completed less than 50% of his passes (15/31) with a pick and LSU actually outgained Bama. Their saving grace was the fact LSU's Jarrett Lee is the worst QB in the conference. Sure, Bama can try and take some of the credit, but Lee produces similarly ugly stat lines on a weekly basis (13/34, 4 INT). We'll eat crow if it comes to it but we see Florida delivering a pimp hand to Saban's boys in the SEC title game. --
3 Florida The Gators slaughtered Vandy 42-14 to secure a bid in the SEC title game. Tebow tried to keep pace with Harrell accounting for 5 TD (3 pass, 2 rush). Next up: South Carolina. UP1
4 Southern Cal The Trojan offense sputtered a little but the D was again dominant in USC's 17-3 win over Cal. The defense has now held six opponents to less than 10 points this season and they've given up just 13 total points in the last five games. USC is 25-0 in November games under Pete Carroll. UP1
5 Texas Colt McCoy threw 5 TD passes as the Longhorns bashed Baylor 45-21 in Austin. Our favorite white receiver, Jordan Shipley, scored a TD for the 10th straight game. First downs: Texas 30, Baylor 9. UP1
6 Oklahoma The Sooner offense blew up again with 653 total yards with Sam Bradford again doing most of the heavy lifting. The QB went 22/33 for 320 yards and 4 TD with the RB tandem of DeMarco Murray (123 yds) and Chris Brown (117 yds, 3 TD) adding another 240 yards. OU has yet to score less than 35 in any game. Next up: Texas Tech. UP1
7 Penn State Well, so much for Joe Pa going out on top. In the end, maybe it shouldn't be so surprising that the Lions lost 24-23 to Iowa on a last second FG considering they have now lost the last 3 to Iowa coming off a bye ('03, '04). Viva La Ferentz. Man, did Darryll Clark stink it up: 9/23 for 86 yards and a pick. DOWN6
8 Boise State Boise State beat up on another janky opponent. This time it was Utah State, 49-14. Four different Broncos threw a TD pass and the D forced 6 turnovers. UP1
9 Utah Utah scored 13 unanswered points to sneak past TCU 13-10 and move to 10-0. Brian Johnson led the Utes on an 80yd drive capped with a 9yd TD pass to Freddie Brown with :48 left on the clock. Total yards: TCU 416, Utah 275. UP1
10 Ohio State Andre Ware needs to cork it. Of all people, why is he trying to call out Tressel for supposedly running up the score in OSU's 45-10 road win at Northwestern? If anything, you'd think he'd be a fan of such strategy considering it's all his Houston teams did back in the day. Hell, all the running up the score they did allowed him to win a Heisman. Unbelievable. Of course, if you don't want ESPN's z-team calling your games, win more of them. UP1
11 Oklahoma State The Cowboys had no answer for Texas Tech's offense surrendering 38 first downs and 629 total yards in the 56-20 loss. WR Dez Bryant also learned a lesson after spouting off this week saying he deserved as much hype as Tech's Michael Crabtree. Bryant: 4/86, 0 TD. Crabtree: 8/89, 3 TD. Case closed. DOWN3
12 Missouri Jeremy Maclin put up 278 all-purpose yards and 3 TD in Mizzou's 41-24 win over Kansas State. Missouri now sits atop the Big 12 North. --
13 Georgia Georgia almost lost another one but Matt Stafford's TD pass to A.J. Green with 1:54 left allowed the Dawgs to escape with a 42-38 victory in Lexington. Stafford: 17/27, 376 yards, 3 TD. Moreno: 22/123, 3 TD. UP1
14 Brigham Young Max Hall played a near flawless game going 25/30 for 317 yards and 3 TD in BYU's 41-12 win over San Diego State. UP2
15 Ball State Ball State improved to 9-0 beating Northern Illinois 45-14. Nate Davis led the charge throwing for 300 and 4 TD. UP2
16 Michigan State Sparty improved to 9-2 with a 21-7 win over Purdue. Ringer was Ringer going for 121 and 2 TD but Hoyer struggled going 10/22 with 154 yards and 2 picks. MSU held Purdue to 191 total yards and 3/16 on 3rd down. UP2
17 North Carolina The Tar Heels beat Georgia Tech 28-7 to secure their first winning season in seven years. Yikes. Can you imagine? This one only 7-0 heading to the 4th quarter but UNC got 3 TD's in the final 14 minutes. Yards rushing: GT 326, NC 186. UP2
18 TCU The Horned Frogs jumped out to a 10-0 lead but couldn't make it stand up in a 13-10 loss at Utah. TCU outgained the Utes 416 to 275 but allowed an 80 yard TD drive in the final minutes. DOWN5
19 LSU LSU tried to pull the upset but Tiger QB Jarrett Lee refused to let that happen tossing 4 INT, including the game sealer in a 27-21 OT loss to Alabama. DOWN4
20 Florida State Bowden turned 79 years young as his Seminoles beat Clemson 41-27 in Tallahassee. The FSU crowd sang Happy Birthday to the old man with 380 career W's. The Seminole D held Clemson to 2/15 3rd down conversions. NR
21 Pittsburgh Wannestache's boys took advantage of 5 turnovers to romp past Louisville 41-7 in Pittsburgh. Next up: @ UC. NR
22 Cincinnati The Bearcats improved to 7-2 with a 26-23 upset win over the Mountaineers in Morgantown. UC is now 5-2 against ranked teams with Brian Kelly as head coach. Before Kelly, UC won just four times in 62 tries against ranked opponents. NR
23 South Carolina The OBC moved to 7-3 with a 34-21 win over lowly Arkansas. Of course, the Cocks will almost certainly meet the same fate as all the other teams we slot in 20-25 spots that seemingly lose the week after they crack our ranking...Next up: @ Florida. NR
24 Tulsa Bye week. Next up: @ Houston NR
25 Oregon State Beaver freshman RB Jacquizz Rodgers rushed for 144 yards and a score in Oregon State's 34-6 destruction of UCLA. Rodgers now has the most ever rushing yards by a Pac-10 freshman (1,089) with three regular season games still remaining. NR

DROPPED OUT: Georgia Tech (#20), West Virginia (#21), Northwestern (#22), Maryland (#23), California (#24), Kansas (#25).

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