PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Oregon is going to lose. They are not going to make it through Oregon State, Stanford, and the P12 title game undefeated.
i am calling their loss to Oregon State right here.
Unless they lose their QB or Barner, I don't see that happening. OrSU will relish in the chance to play spoiler, but I don't believe they have enough.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Even if they lose Mariota I think they will be fine. Bennett played very well last year.
At least now we can cut through the crap about Alabama being able to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars.
How is this Oregon offense any different from the one that we shut down three years ago in the Rose Bowl?
They're definitely better at QB, and TE. Not sure if Barner is that much better than James was. They just look overall bigger than they were in 09.
The offense isn't much different, but the playmakers are a lot better, especially at QB as mentioned above. Think OSU in a couple years versus this year.
Their defense is also worse. No NFL starters on that defense like TJ Ward or Casey Mathews.
The only team that would worry me is Oregon. But much like the last time they went up against Ohio State, they haven't faced any QB all like Braxton Miller(Pryor), or a coach as good as Meyer(Tressel). I don't think they'd be able to stop the Miller/Hyde/Smith attack for long.
I said this before and I will say this again Ohio State is the best team in college football.
Wow, 38 of you (as of the date & time of this writing) are insane, scarlet-colored-glasses-wearing homers.
I wear that label proudly.
I've never denied it and would love to see us play any of the other teams in the poll.
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Had to vote Bama. They are there by default as the best SEC team so they are the best in the world. Even if they don't win all of their games, their division, or their conference, they have to be considered the best. Isn't that what we learned last year?
No we didn't, because Alabama didn't play anyone other than LSU last year. LSU's offense was terrible last year. Look at what a good/decent QB did to that defense yesterday. Reality check. Weeden would have given LSU their biggest test last year. Yeah, they beat Oregon in the first game, but they didn't play anybody with a good passing attack. People need to deal with the reality that the SEC is not that good this year. They have lost to Sun Belt teams this year, and even the ones they beat they struggled against. Florida needed a last second punt block to beat Louisiana Lafayette yesterday. LSU lost to that same Florida team, and barely squeezed out a win against an Auburn team that is absolute garbage. LSU just happened to beat a South Carolina team that plays horribly on the road and for some reason that means they should be the number five team in the country.
I'm sorry, but saying a team is the best "by default" is the absolute worst thing about college football. Use a brain and some objective information, and that includes being able to change your mind when reality warrants it.
I think there may have been a hint of sarcasm in there.
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Don't forget to use sarcasm font (italics) or the sticker eating downvote monster might make an appearance!
LOL, my bad if I missed it, but I still don't think CALPOPPY was being sarcastic. I also don't know why his comment got a downvote.
Notre Dame 0% (0 votes)
Edit: Apparently we have ND trolls.
Not true. I voted ND. It comes down to wins and losses, and as far as I'm concerned, ND has beaten better teams than Oregon, K-State, Alabama, and Ohio State.
ND: Oklahoma, Stanford, ?
Kansas State: Oklahoma, Texas Tech, OK State
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hard to say one way or the other
Didn't you also say Florida was the 2nd best team.
Boy do they suck when Muschamp isn't worried about beating an SEC team this year... played BGSU too close in week 1 and deserved to lose yesterday. Hope Florida State pounds them to prove the point that the SEC can even lose to a Wheel Of Destin conf team for crying out loud.
Your not thinking clearly. Everyone knows that a loss in the Schools Encouraging Cheating is still a victory in any other conference. Technically, Alabama is still undefeated.
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches
You mean like how Les Miles was undefeated in 07 because he never lost in regulation. lol
Kansas St. vs Oregon in the MNC.
And apparently they were originally supposed to have played each other this year, but it fell through.
35 hours to Pasadena! Go Bucks!
The number 1 team in the country usually has at least one unit that can dominate the game. Right now, the most dominant unit in CFB is the Oregon offense. Of course there is still the question about whether the Ducks can dominate against a top defense, but after watching how TAMU came out against Bama yesterday, there's little reason to believe that Oregon couldn't put up similar or greater points. Last week the clear best team was Alabama, and then they went ahead and lost yesterday. Things could change again next weekend, but for now I gotta go with the Ducks.
Oregon. They're on pace to break the NCAA record for TDs in a season. This mantra that "Defense wins championships" is as outdated as a rotary phone. Example, look no further than the two teams that played in the Super Bowl last year, or Auburn 2010. Oregon has their best offense in school history, their best O-line, and an athletic defense that is serviceable. I mean Hell they held a Cal team that scored 28 on us to 17. One could certainly make the argument for Kansas State as well, they've played a good schedule and have throroughly dominated the teams on it. Notre Dame on the other hand is just a train wreck waiting to happen. They have no offense, and I see them losing at Southern Cal.
The NFL you can make an argument that you don't need a great defense to win championships. All you need is a great QB, weapons, and a pass rush basically. The Giants and Steelers have 4 superbowls in the last 6 years and they traditionally have great defenses.
College football on the other hand I disagree, just look at Alabama and LSU. Auburn won it with a great QB but also had the best D-lineman in the country. Oregons losses in BCS bowls as of late just show you that just having an explosive offense won't cut it..same for Oklahoma state, Baylor, etc.
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
The team that had the TD record before them was Oklahoma, who ran into Jesus in the MNC and the Holy Spirit AKA Florida's defense yielded only 10-14 points.
Oregon is no different than they have beem the last few years. Cal held them in check until about midway through the third they just didnt have the talent to hold on. Oregon can still be shut down like they were against us in 2009 and auburn in 2010. Focus on stopping the run. Their recievers are good but nothing special. Controll the pace of the game. And boom they loose their magic and they arent built to be a grind it out hard yards team.
"Cal held them in check".
By Oregon's standards, sure. But giving up 24 points(which would have been 28 had Oregon's QB not hurt his shoulder) in the first half isn't anything to brag about.
The "until" is key to your entire statement. The game is 60 minutes. That Cal held them to "only" 24 points through 2 1/2 quarters is not particularly impressive in itself, and when you consider that Oregon went on to close the game by scoring 35 straight points, the "until" becomes a particularly meaningless caveat.
Yes but that was Cal. If Cal can do it for 2 and a half quarters then I think K-State or Bama could do it for four.
I don't understand the fascination with Oregon, they do this every year in the pac-12, then get to their bowl game where they have to play a real defense and they lose.
You are right to raise this point, but it is currently an unanswerable objection. Answering it was one reason I was pulling for an Alabama/Oregon NCG. As far as who the best team in the country is, I will say what I said before which is that Bama lost yesterday because they had a hard time adjusting to TAMU's up-tempo offense. Doubt that the Oregon QB can pass like Manziel, but Oregon has plenty of weapons to worry Bama with. Give credit where it's due; Oregon looks to be the best in CFB at this point.
Oregons defense is average at best. I cant see them stopping a KSU or Bama offense at this point.
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They still haven't played Stanford, ORST, or UCLA, which I think are the top 2-4 teams in the Pac-12. They're getting in the meat of their schedule just now.
My money is still on Bama vs. the field on a nuetral field. However, theyre ou of the mnc game at this point
K State gets no respect. K State plays a very solid 3 phases of Football.
When are people going to learn....Oregon has 1 Rose Bowl win to show for their 5 years of "excellence".
Kansas State is in my opinion. Have won big in all big show case games. They are the most balanced team as far as offense and defense and have a great leader at QB. It helps to have a coach like they have as well.
Oregon will lose a game, TRUST ME. Notre Dame will probably lose to SC..even though I hope they win. I'm rooting for K-State to win out as well as Notre Dame so I don't have to witness another redneck title game or have to hear the obnoxious Duck and PAC-12 fans(Cowherd) brag how "elite" they are.
I'm a little surprised at this voting. Kansas State is winning the conference in which Texas A+M was middle of the road last year. What more do they have to do for some respect?
SEC fans: "But... but... but... but... but............................................................................................. wait a minute, I know this.... um.......................................................................................................................... THEY DIDN'T HAVE SEC SPEED OR JOHNNY FOOTBALL S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C!"
KSU...if they play Oregon, it should be an interesting game. That is if Oregon goes undefeated (Stanford, ORSt. and UCLA or USC again...I can see them losing one of those). So could it be ND and KSU? I think either would be an interesting NC game IMO.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
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C'mon guys/ladies! Seriously? How can any of us vote against tOSU? Obviously Roby knows better than any of us. I'm gonna have a little faith & ride the words of the best damn corner in the league. :D
Who was the first 10-0 team in CFB? Yeah screw all the haters. I dare anyone to tell me that Brax couldn't have replicated most of what Johnny Football did to Bama's VAUNTED D. And our defense is at least as good as A&Ms, if I'm not mistaken.
Oregon, Kansas St, and ND are all as flawed as we are and on any given day we can beat them just as easily as they might beat us. Even odds.
We're the best team in CFB.
Sadly I still think our LBs would prevent us from actually being the best team in the country right now. Depth and physicality is an issue. I think we would have a prett good shot against all the top 4 (I'd say we beat ND by a surprising margin actually) and an extremely good shot at beating anyone else.
Some of Johnny Football's passes yesterday were amazing. That kid is for real. XBrax's arm isn't quite there yet and nor is the relationships with the receivers. Brax gets flusters and throws a bad ball sometimes.... Manziel just makes stuff happen. We'll get there, though.
^ No we aren't...and Braxton WOULDN'T be able to do that to Bamas defense.
I challenge you to give me reasons Why he couldn't. Bama's defense has an achilles heel. It's a spread offense, hurry-up QB (preferably one who is dual-threat too). Look at their last notable losses (9-6 to LSU - yes it was a s*itfest but what little offense LSU mustered that day came from jordan jefferson not jarrett lee. The chokejob against Cam Newton. The 2009 Sugar bowl loss to spread-offense Utah and the 08 loss that year to Tim Tebow. ) A trend emerges. Johnny Football just added his name to that list. I very clearly think it's logical to say Braxton would have his way with that Bama D. Certain "types" of defenses are more suited to certain "types" of offenses. Look at our own team for reference. A pure speed based defense like LSU's absolutely slaugters these hurry up spread dual threat QBs. That's why Manziel threw 3 INTs against them. Bama is geared towards stopping the neolithic pro-style run-based offenses most SEC teams run. Since most (re: ALL) SEC teams outside of A&M have the QB equivalent of Mark Sanchez behind center Bama will stone the run and force them to pass their way back into the game, while their own offense slowly grinds out yards on the ground. That's Saban's formula. It works great against the offenses in the SEC. Anytime he's run into something vastly different (Urban's Tebow-era teams, Cam newton, Johnny Football, UTAH) they struggle. WE now have that "Type" of offense.
I'm just about done with this incessant hagiography of Bama as somehow clearly the "Best" team in CFB, both before this week and even now after their depantsing. People have just gotten it hammered into their skull that Bama is the "Best" because they somehow "look" the best and we all "just know".
come on Jason, even if there was only a 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000 chance that Braxton would, you'd have to be correct and say he COULD.
Did you think Craig Krenzel would do what he did to Miami's defense? It's sports man. who knows
Actually I'm pretty sure we could run on Bama at will for a half. Second half would depend on Brax to make some throws and the WRs to get open against Bama's seriously good corners. Our defense has pretty good matches with Bama's offense.
I'd rather face Bama than KState or Oregon. It's all about matchups.
somewhat ironically, this year we match up really well against the SEC teams.
I'd also take us over Notre Dame.
Not to mention our Defense this year would have a way easier time stopping Bama/ND as opposed to Kansas St or (shudder) Oregon.
Strip away all the SEC hype and SEC "Speed" and the awesome defensive lines that actualy win them all their ball games, what do you have left? A bunch of teams whose offenses are basically, Sparty's.
Bama's offense is basically Michigan State this year with more hype.
AJ McCarron is significantly better than Andrew Maxwell. It's not even comparable.
Fine, they're Michigan State last year.
Nicky Satan DID get his coaching chops from those parts IIRC
I'm actually worried about using the word "ironically". I feel like Sarah is gonna jump in and tell me I've missed the definition of irony entirely, then vivisect me in a footnote.
Why couldn't Brax play well against Bama's d? Every game I have watched him, he has made defenses look stupid. What are you basing that statement on? And until we are beat, we have an argument as to why we are the best team in CFB.
I can't believe 125 people still voted for Bama. I hate the SEC so badly right now. There were T Shirt vendors outside Bryant-Denney before the A&M game selling "The DRIVE" shirts. YES, that little pitch and catch which won them LSU last week was already being CANONIZED as "THE DRIVE". A win in a regular season conference game that you were favored to win in is apparently enough to be made into a T shirt the week after. They didn't even wait until they won the BCS. The arrogance is stunning. I cannot be more glad that a mediocre BIG XII team outplayed them for 4 quarters and left that stadium in stunned silence. THE DRIVE. AJ MCCARRON FOR HEISMAN. BETTER THAN AN NFL TEAM. UGHGHGHGHGHGHGHHG
we are currently listed as a 1.5 pt underdog at (unranked) Wisky... hope that gives our kids some added motivation.
its 2.5 now... and ive been sayin oregon is the best team for 5 weeks now
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Mark May would crap his pants that we all haven't voted for Bama. That guy is a lunatic.
I think Braxton would make some plays with his legs against Bama..but I don't think he could do it at will all game..which is basically what our bread and butter is. I don't see us being balanced enough to go 4 quarters with them. Just what I feel doesn't mean they couldn't beat them somehow. Bama is still head and shoulders above us as far as I'm concerned.
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