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How do you grade Ohio State's performance?

A
8% (86 votes)
B+
51% (582 votes)
B-
35% (405 votes)
C+
4% (50 votes)
C-
2% (19 votes)
Total Votes: 1142

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703Buckeye's picture

B+
If the pass defense were better, I would have given an A.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

Buckeyes125's picture

How are people giving B-?? So disrespectful

William's picture

Scores 56 points in first game. People rate the game as a C+.All of my whats...

Matthew's picture

Can't give an A after that first quarter, but it was good.

Class of 2010

Buckeyejason's picture

B. 
It wasn't a perfect game..far from it. A lot of good moments but looked like a bad football team during some of the game as well. 

BUCKEYES BABY!

rdubs's picture

I would have gone straight B, but it wasn't an option....so B+.  If you take out the first quarter I would have to go with at least A- though.

Buckeyes125's picture

I thought it was a A-, but I voted A

Crimson's picture

I went B-, but a solid B would have been good.  They had some great plays: see Miller to Smith.  Braxton had some good throws and some great runs (oh, that studder step!), but he had some bad ones as well.  Roby caught my eye all game, and it's hard for me to say anyone was better than him today.  He ran a guy down from behind, and he crushed a RB in the backfield.  Simon was always almost there, and he would have had a few sacks except for Dysert getting rid of it so quickly.  Hyde has some great runs as well.
However, there were a lot of bad points as well.  Howard had a couple of picks, but he couldn't cover or wrap up on several occasions.  I think the safeties had a couple of missed tackles too.  Then look at all of the dropped passes.  I think every player who had a catch had a drop to go along with it.  First quarter was also painful to watch.
Overall, I'm really not surprised by anything (except how good Dysert was to avoid the pressure).  I knew they would have to work on their offense especially, because they have so many new coaches and a new system.  That being said, I was going with 48-10, so their offense ended up clicking a little better than I thought they would.
Also, I don't think putting up 56 points on a MAC team is any reason to go easy on their rating or criticize others for giving a low rating.  It's their first game with a lot to learn, but that's not an excuse to give an A.  (I don't really care if you give an A, but if you're going to moan about people who don't . . . )

cplunk's picture

You people are easy graders. Take into account the competition. The D-line got almost no push all game. If Miami's WRs could catch that what have been a much uglier game. The first quarter was a disaster. The team got going in the second half and looked much better, but I don't see anyway you can rate this higher than a C. Don't ge caught up in the score, judge the performance.

Buckeyes125's picture

Just wait until we get Hall back.

schooey's picture

That's right, take into account the competition. I say B-/C+ at best. 

schooey's picture

As far as getting Hall back: Hall has had his moments, but not always. Tressel would give Hall the ball often when he returns. I hope that Meyer will look at the situation in terms of talent and not class age. If Hyde and company are tearing it up at the time then I say stick with the known. 

Crimson's picture

Hall earned a spot before he hurt his foot.  He'll get his carries in a way that Hyde really can't, and they'll adjust based on how effective each player is.  I can't see any possible way (barring injury) that Hyde and Hall do not get a lot of touches each game.

William's picture

Folks, we faced a Top 15 passing offense with two guys who will be playing in the NFL in Dysert and Harwell. Dysert is going to break Roethlisberger's record at Miami, the dude is a baller. Sure we definitely have things to improve on but we just dropped 56 points in our first game operating a new offense. By rating this below a B, what were you guys expecting them to score, 70 points?

Crimson's picture

I was expecting 48, and I've been giving a lot of praise to Dysert (Harwell deserves it too).  However, they had a lot of mistakes and have a lot of work to do.  When Urban grades them, they certainly aren't going to get an A (except maybe Roby and a few others).

Buckeyejason's picture

Do you not remember half the people on here saying Urbz is going to drop 70 last week? 
 

BUCKEYES BABY!

William's picture

My point exactly. It's crazy to expect anyone implementing a new offense to drop 70 points in their first game. My first guess was 56-10 and then I switched to 49-3. The point is, we dropped 56 points in our first game, that's pretty good if you ask me.

Buckeyejason's picture

If you just go by the score, then yes it looks like we dominated every aspect of the game. If you Judge each aspect of the team(offense, defense, special teams, passing, rushing, coverage, pass rush etc) then its easy to understand that it wasnt a perfect performance.

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William's picture

We did dominate every aspect of the game, with the exception of total passing yards, which is going to happen when your opponent throws the ball ~52 times. 

cplunk's picture

We did not dominate every aspect of the game. Specifically, we failed to dominate on the D-line, which is supposedly a strength. This was a mid-level MAC offensive line and we failed to pressure the QB with any regularity. That failure, combined with a good QB, made our secondary look worse than it is.
If we get that little pressure on UCF, we lose to UCF. The talent gap is nowhere near as large as between us and Miami. Bad D-Line play will bite you in the ass, and often. Meyer has talked about the importance of the D-line many times.
throughout the game, their O-line consistently won the battle in the trenches.
The only possible mitigating factor is that we appeared to rush three all game. It is possible there was a conscious decision to rush fewer and keep more in the secondary because their QB is so good. I hope so.
I still have this team penciled in for a championship next year, but for this game I give them a C plus. An average OSU team from the last ten years would have scored in the upper thirties or low forties. We exceeded that and saw some glimmers of what a machine this offense is about to become. The first quarter and some bad passes by Braxton have me giving the offense a B; better than average, not great.
The D-line play and some of the horrid coverage breakdowns have me giving the defense a C-. I averaged that out to an overall Cplus.
it has nothing to do with expecting 70, which I did not, or being negative, it has to do with honestly evaluating performance on the field. We need to improve some things or we can be in danger against a good UCF team.

William's picture

That's the concept of a quick passing game, it negates the pass rush. I was at the game, we got consistent pressure, but that doesn't matter if the team is running 7 yard slants and out routes.. Also Miami had what -1 yards rushing? Explain to me how that isn't a dominating performance. 

Buckeyejason's picture

They ran the ball what, 3-4 times? 
Also, we knew they were going to throw the ball yet gave up catch after catch after catch..they were one dimensional.

BUCKEYES BABY!

William's picture

Because rushing the ball 20 times in a game equates 3-4 times. We also had two picks. 

Buckeyejason's picture

Dont bother..some fans will ignore the flaws of a team and think everything is perfect as long as they blow out a Mac team. Go back and watch the tape and tell me that was a perfect "A" performance.

BUCKEYES BABY!

cplunk's picture

Exactly. I promise you the letters B and A are not escaping Urban's mouth when he evaluates this game.

William's picture

Dont bother..some fans will ignore the flaws of a team and think everything is perfect as long as they blow out a Mac team. Go back and watch the tape and tell me that was a perfect "A" performance.

Where have I said this in any of my analysis? I said that our secondary was questionable at times, and that the offense was inconsistent. Sorry that I'm calling people out on things that they clearly didn't notice.

Codeezy's picture

To CPLUNK. 
 
I think its been said but the quick passing game is to negate the "consistent" rush. Thats why our coaches were sending three and two at times even. Send 5 or 6 against that offense everytime and I garauntee we pressure them "consistently", but I garauntee we give up more points also. Just my opinion. UCF is a different offense and we will scheme and adjust as necessary. No worries! We are in great hands with this staff. Go Bucks!

Chise47's picture

And here I thought I was being harsh w/ a B- grade. I see some of our brethren are VERY harsh!!
CPLUNK put it quite adequately though, ..."The D-Line got almost no push all day...."; I was seriously expecting Dysert to have to run for his life like the guy in the meat vest in the Degree deodorant commercial.
Talent gap between the 2 teams was too vast for Miami to throw that effective. However, we did get some very good minutes for 2nd string, who kept up the onslaught, and they are the one's who carried the performance to a B-.
I will watch the replay at least twice, sober!!!

Buckeyejason's picture

I could see a struggle with UCF and Cal.

BUCKEYES BABY!

rdubs's picture

Cal lost to Nevada, at home, we better not struggle there...

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Given it was Miami, and we couldn't seem to get the run game going steady. I say B-. If this were against Cal def an A.  People underrate Dysert, If he plays at any other FBS school, he'd be a household name.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

penult's picture

I voted the B range for performance, think it was low B range. 
However, my enjoyment watching them play that game was A++ (after they made me forget the first quarter).

Bucksfan's picture

Winning 56-10 gets an A in my book any day of the week.  Yeah, at times they weren't very good.  At other times, they were spectacular.  But, after a decade of watching this team struggle against MAC teams virtually every single year, this was incredibly cathartic.  A.  And I would have given them an A+ if it was an option.  Wildly entertaining game.

William's picture

Someone that gets it.

Phoenix824's picture

Finally score was better than I thought it would be however three things make it a B- performance.    1st - No solid B grade otherwise I would have called it a B.     2nd - No sacks by the defense.     Close a bunch of times but I wanted more presure.    3rd and most important - two words    First Quarter.  

rdubs's picture

We had at least 2 sacks (both by true freshmen, Spence and Adolphus)

jmoody's picture

drop a letter for the first quarter. Should have been 21-0 Miami after the first. We were lucky they can't catch. Final 3 quarters were great. I was glad to see the adjustments made. Meyer himself said first quarter was an embarrassment. Can't give an A when your coach describes an entire quarter as an embarrassment. I give a B.

"Did you push yourself to be great today? If you didn't do it you lost a day. We ain't got many days to lose. We're going to push your a$$ like its never been pushed because what you've got in you were going to find out" UFM

Bucksfan's picture

I guess I'm confused by this criticism of the D-line play.  The D-line had no chance at getting to the Dysert because Miami's scheme is a 3-step drop quick pass out of the shotgun.  It was very quick precision passing, throwing to a spot before a receiver makes a break.  When they did get their shots at him, he was able to evade the pressure with his size and speed.  That kid Dysert is a 1st round draft pick.  He's the real deal.  I don't know if it's fair to criticize our D-line.  Simon got a sack, and there were 2 picks.
They also held Miami to -1 yards rushing...lulz.

William's picture

Just said this myself. People don't get that it doesn't matter how dominant your D-line is, if the offense is throwing a 7 yard slant/out-route. Also Dysert is going to break Roethlisberger's record. He'll be the best Qb we face ALL year.

jmoody's picture

I don't agree that he is a first round pick. I don't even know if he will go pro. You are correct about the quick pass. I agree. the D line was fine. I think our recruiting success on the D line has given some people unrealistic expectations.

"Did you push yourself to be great today? If you didn't do it you lost a day. We ain't got many days to lose. We're going to push your a$$ like its never been pushed because what you've got in you were going to find out" UFM

William's picture

Meyer's said the guy will be a pro, I think he knows QBs. Also Tressel offered Dysert..

Crimson's picture

I didn't think Simon actually got a sack.  He does deserve credit for the 2nd(?) pick that Howard got though.

buckeyechad's picture

Theres hundreds of people voting and some of you can't understand that some will end up voting for all the options? almost 95% of people voted B or better... no use in whining about people that didn't

Buckeyejason's picture

It's hard to gauge the pass rush..because yes, they did get rid of it in a hurry. I think people are criticizing it because there wasn't one last year and they didn't see much today.

BUCKEYES BABY!

Buckeyejason's picture

He's def going to play pro ball. I'd take him on the team over Brax right now lol jk..kinda

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William's picture

For our offense no, but he's a damn good QB. He'd be a stud at MSU, Wisky, PSU or Iowa,

jmoody's picture

Everyone thought Troy Smith was going to light up the NFL as well. He is a good QB. One of the 32 best in the world? I don't think even close. If we hadn't just played him most of us wouldn't know his name. I'm not saying he sucks. I thought he played really well. let's not make him a first rounder though.

"Did you push yourself to be great today? If you didn't do it you lost a day. We ain't got many days to lose. We're going to push your a$$ like its never been pushed because what you've got in you were going to find out" UFM

Buckeyejason's picture

No one thought Troy would light up the nfl. That's why he was a 6th rd pick or whatever he was.

BUCKEYES BABY!

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

B+ seems fair because they did look good most of the way.  A few issues here and there to work on - Braxton looked shaky early but got his shit together.  Not sure what to make of the defense because of Miami's offensive gameplan of throwing 95% of downs.  I felt it could've been better (too many missed tackles for my taste), but at the same time, I realize against that kind of offense, you're going to give up some yards at some point.  I like overall where they're at so far.

Class of 2010.

Codeezy's picture

Did anyone see Curtis Grant today? I dont remember him even being on the screen.

Crimson's picture

I didn't really notice the linebackers at all.  I saw Sabino a few times, nothing specific, until he had a nice blitz.

M tots's picture

Played Nickel most of the day... In order to get Corey ("Pittsburgh") Brown in at the STAR spot, Curtis Grant had to leave the field (Leaving Sabino and Shazier at LB). 

DetroitBuckeye's picture

I know it's early but good teams blow out bad teams, this looked like tressel's buckeyes.  Maybe not defensively at first but the laying 55 on a mac school sure did.

 
William's picture

Umm Tressel's squads put up more than 50 points on a MAC school only twice during his entire tenure. Meyer's already equaled half of that in one game...
2002: OSU-KSU 51-17
2010: OSU-EMU: 73-20

DetroitBuckeye's picture

Maybe not the exact points but tressel's buckeyes regularly scored 40 or so points against the mac.  Plus plays like the blocked punts and other tds were basically handed to us.  I didn't mean exact points just the way that the team dominated.

 
tampa buckeye's picture

I gave it C- that first quarter was an f. We couldn't beat bama today and that is how we should approach every game like its a national title game. Play like champions.

That said good win lots to work on. Roby is. a beast. Spence and Washington are going to destroy the big ten.

BrewstersMillions's picture

8 TD's were scored. EIGHT. All 8 came with ease once the offense started rolling. The first quarter can be chalked up to any number of things-nerves, jitters, not really being able to run scout team against an offense so predicated on the quick pass, whatever. Fact is, OSU hit pay dirt 8 times and while Brax looked shaky at times you saw real progression in his throws and reads. Plus he runs really really well. And this offense with a legit power back is terrifying. Room for improvement? Absolutley. Every week there is but this offense OSU faced is designed to neutralized talent gaps through scheme and it did just that for a while. Miami was going to get its chunks of yards. What matters most is what Miami did in the red zone. Dropped passes plagued them but they still couldn't get in the endzone once they crossed the 20.
 
56 points people. That's an A.

Do I come off as arrogant? Shame on me, I was hoping it would be more obvious.

nickma71's picture

The d line got great push. The one that said otherwise must have been watching the same game as Mark May. Their QB played very well. The line was in his face, and he still made passes. He had a split second to dump it, and did. So I also went with the B+ because the linebackers didn't cover the 5-7 yard pass good enough. That could have been formations...