World Cup 2014: Portugal Open Thread

By 11W Staff on June 22, 2014 at 5:41p
151 Comments

Win and we're in.

But it won't be easy. Portugal is wounded and Ronaldo can take over a game like few before him.

Start (ET) Group Matchup TV Internet Odds
6:00 p.m. G #13 United States vs. #4 Portugal ESPN WatchESPN, RTP 1 USA +350, Portugal -117, Draw +285

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Knarcisi's picture

Not much of a soccer fan, but I've gotten into this World Cup, and am a fan today. 

USA, USA, USA !

+3 HS
Jason Priestas's picture

I'm a casual fan – don't watch MLS, tune into EPL when I can – but damn if it isn't great to crush the hopes of another nation (without bloodshed).

Knarcisi's picture

My wife is from Costa Rica. Been a good Cup so far. 

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Earle's picture

A little blood is OK, no?

Just say no to italics abuse.

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Brutus's picture

I believe that we will win.

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Jason Priestas's picture

It's what makes us so damn exceptional.

chicagobuckeye's picture

Dempsey looks like he might murder someone. Not that that's any different than usual

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Seattle Linga's picture

I love the deuce - Let's go men 

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Chief B1G Dump's picture
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Hovenaut's picture

Let's go, boys!

Hate Week runneth over

GingaNinja614's picture

USA USA! I was never too interested in soccer but this cup has sparked my interest and I'm going to start watching more.

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Hovenaut's picture

That sucks...that really sucks.

Hate Week runneth over

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brunstar's picture

Terrible attempt to clear the ball.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Hurried and awful start - we are better than that!!!!!!!!!!!

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OSUStu's picture

Pretty lousy defensive effort thus far. Hope they improve.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

jeremytwoface's picture

Looking better...

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Can't play scared - need to stay aggressive just like the last few minutes

Knarcisi's picture

Pressuring well now. 

Jason Priestas's picture

Clint came to play. I like that.

chicagobuckeye's picture

Broken nose doesn't look like the nose is affecting him

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Jason Priestas's picture

Not at all. Could use about five more of him.

Knarcisi's picture

Terrible pass. 

chicagobuckeye's picture

Also Bradley came to play. I like how now they say he didn't look good. Last game you would have thought he played lights out with how they were talking. 

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Seattle Linga's picture

Bradley is playing much better than against Ghana - although he really had no where else to go but up. He is such a play maker and I know he clicks well with Dempsey. 

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Knarcisi's picture

We're really controlling now. 

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Seattle Linga's picture

Kinda get the sense if it stays this way that it's just a matter of time

JollyFatMan's picture

KEEP attacking. Don't Tresselball it. Portugal is giving TOO many chances to slow down. 

How firm thy friendship..

Kid Gloves's picture

I don't think that will be a concern especially because we're playing from behind

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jeremytwoface's picture

Aside from that defensive gaff, the US is playing great.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

jeremytwoface's picture

Fabian Johnson is playing a great game... Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a goal/assist here soon.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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nm_buck's picture

gotta put some hair on some of those shots

jeremytwoface's picture

Huh.... A water break.

I've never seen this before.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Jason Priestas's picture

Qatar in eight years!

chicagobuckeye's picture

So dumb they should move it to the us

jeremytwoface's picture

Well if someone gave me $5 million I would vote for it to be in Antarctica....

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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chicagobuckeye's picture

Let's not do Antarctica let's pick a random country no one has ever heard of that is too hot to safely host a World Cup... Oh wait

jeremytwoface's picture

Do I still get $5 million??? Then yes....

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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brunstar's picture

120 and 90% humidity in July, I look forward to never going back there again.....ever.

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Knarcisi's picture

Atta boy Ronaldo.  

Jason Priestas's picture

Nice kick, Christiano.

Knarcisi's picture

Was it the Z in his head or the manicured eyebrows that threw him off?

Seattle Linga's picture

Tim Howard = One of the best in the world

+1 HS
nm_buck's picture

he'll need to be, today

chicagobuckeye's picture

Good half. Shitty score

Knarcisi's picture

Hope we can hold this pace in the humidity. 

Deadly Nuts's picture

Ronaldo is absolutely shit... Against Germany he had a free kick and hit a one man wall. Today he was aiming for the moon. 

LEBRON

Knarcisi's picture

Yeah, I was a little underwhelmed after hearing how great he was at it. 

chicagobuckeye's picture

If you haven't actually seen him take some. Go to YouTube. You won't be let down there. 

+1 HS
chicagobuckeye's picture

The announcers compared he Germany free kick to tiger woods slicing a drive 20 yards off the tee box. 

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The Butler's picture

"hit a one man wall" made me LOL so hard, I spit out my peanut M&Ms!

Now I have to find a rag and clean my monitor...

I've trained Canaries in the sport of falconry.

 

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sbentz4's picture

Have to get better chances here.  We had a lot of ok chances, need better work in the box in the 2nd half.

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Seattle Linga's picture

We need to turn it up with our aggressiveness. Take chances when they are available.

+1 HS
sbentz4's picture

johnson was so open

sbentz4's picture

wow bradley wow.

chicagobuckeye's picture
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Seattle Linga's picture

I love the CHANCE we had

HouseHarleyBuilt's picture

Ronaldo does not have a top lip. I wonder how his boyfriend feels about that...

+2 HS
sbentz4's picture
+1 HS
Seattle Linga's picture

THAT GOALIE WAS MYSTIFIED

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Jason Priestas's picture

That. Was. Filthy.

jeremytwoface's picture

HOLY SHIT!!! EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE!!!!

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

+2 HS
sbentz4's picture

This game is opening up, at least one more goal left for either team.

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nm_buck's picture

That was like a Zito duece.

Seattle Linga's picture

Portugal is turning up the heat and they are going for broke. THEY CANNOT TIE the USA

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sbentz4's picture

we can't park the bus!

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nm_buck's picture

Someone mentioned earlier... no tresselball.  gotta stay aggressive

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KingsRite's picture

I'm pretty sure Ronaldo is wearing eyeliner.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

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KingsRite's picture

The groins are getting abused in this game.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

The Butler's picture

 

I've trained Canaries in the sport of falconry.

 

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Seattle Linga's picture

Finger nails getting smaller by each minute !!

sbentz4's picture

pins and needles

Seattle Linga's picture

THE DEUCE IS LOOSE

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KingsRite's picture

BAM!

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

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jeremytwoface's picture

AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!1

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Seattle Linga's picture

I will be completely honest - I have played soccer my entire life and never have seen a chest/belly-button goal

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jeremytwoface's picture

Keep it together guys....

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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hobochops987's picture

Nice save. Whew

Trust in UFM

Seattle Linga's picture

Portugal had 5 guys offsides - nice job

+1 HS
Knarcisi's picture

Our D in the box has been shaky. 

sbentz4's picture

bring in Omar to close this out!

+1 HS
hobochops987's picture

U are f***ing kidding me.

Trust in UFM

sbentz4's picture

Geoff Cameron, great game except the two plays that mattered.

+2 HS
Knarcisi's picture

That fucking sucks. 

+1 HS
Seattle Linga's picture

GREAT GAME ALL AROUND - We got the point we needed.

Seabass1974's picture

Played not to lose at the end.

The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender. - Woody Hayes

Deadly Nuts's picture

Five minutes of added time.... fucking bullshit.

LEBRON

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BROSEPH's picture

Why was that BS?

Deadly Nuts's picture

They had a fucking water break in the first half and only gave two minutes. I'm fucking tired of all this bullshit extra time bias just to get a little more action in. I've never seen more 4+ minutes added in games until this World Cup.

LEBRON

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nm_buck's picture

the prevent defense works just as good in soccer as it does in football

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thowen79's picture

This had nothing to do with "prevent" defense. It had to do with one player not doing his job and finding his man.

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Deadly Nuts's picture

reply to wrong comment

LEBRON

teddyballgame's picture

Fukking Bradley.

Missed a tap in, gave the ball away on breakaway, too lazy to go after ball rolling infront of him, holds ball instead of clearing it...

+1 HS
clogan1032's picture

Bradley never should have gave that ball up. Great cross and great finish. Going to be an interesting finish to see who comes out

Sabaneatspuppies's picture

 

"My idea of a good hit is when the guy wakes up on the sidelines with train whistles blowing in his head"

+5 HS
sbentz4's picture

I think we have a better chance of a Ghana - Portugal tie than a US - Germany tie.

+2 HS
thowen79's picture

How do you NOT know when there is a player behind you?!? Why worry about the guy with the ball when he's 20 yds away? Two stupid mistakes result in 2 goals for Portugal!

+1 HS
Brutus's picture

Wow, that was a kick to the nuts.

Phoenix824's picture

The soccer fan in me admired the beautiful cross and header. The USA fan in me is crying like a baby.

+3 HS
Poison nuts's picture

Yes, as a fan of the game - the play was truly beautiful. Perfection even. Gotta give credit where due. 

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

Poison nuts's picture

Double post...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

Poison nuts's picture

Bummer. Thought they had it. 5 mins seemed like a lot...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

brunstar's picture

Can Germany just agree to tie us or is that frowned upon?

+2 HS
Knarcisi's picture

They're still pissed about WWII. 

+4 HS
clogan1032's picture

Sadly enough they are know for doing just tha with teams if a mutual result is possible and here it is. I personally think that is terrible but it has happened in the past. 

jamesrbrown322's picture

Well, gotta hope for Ghana-Port draw, or win/draw v. Germany.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

+1 HS
Knarcisi's picture

How is Ghana in over us if they win and we lose?  Assumed goal differential higher?

jeremytwoface's picture

Yes.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Knarcisi's picture

We lose by 1 and they win by 1 it's even. Assume we would go in that case with a head to head win?

jeremytwoface's picture

I actually think the next tie break is total goals scored.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Knarcisi's picture

Looking at the numbers, that would be a tie in the case of us losing 2-1 and them winning 2-1. 

Knarcisi's picture

Looking at the numbers, that would be a tie in the case of us losing 2-1 and them winning 2-1. 

jeremytwoface's picture

Yep.. Chances of us going through go up a lot of Portugal win. They have a lot more to make up in goal difference. 

That being said, a win or a draw would be better than anything else.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

sbentz4's picture

we will most likely be through with a portugal win, unless its a blowout.

Deadly Nuts's picture

Or a Portugal win by less than three. It can only go wrong if Ghana wins.

LEBRON

+1 HS
DJ Byrnes's picture

im furious

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

livinginthegrey's picture

Head to head is not used for World Cup group play. Wish that was different. 

+1 HS
jeremytwoface's picture

It is if the goal differencial and goals scored is the same...

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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jamesrbrown322's picture

I just wonder when Bradley is going to show up for this WC...?

Honestly, let's also remember that most ppl didn't think the US stood a chance in this group. Allegedly they were going to be embarrassed. And this draw evens out that Ghana game which they probably didn't deserve to win, so hey 4 points through 2 games is pretty good. Most ppl were saying US would only have 1 or 0 points by now. All they need is to draw Germany or have Portugal and Ghana tie, or not get blown out by Germany and not have Portugal blow out Ghana.

If Ghana wins, look out. Games are played simultaneously on Thursday...scoreboard watching?

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

+2 HS
Knarcisi's picture

We play at noon on Thurs. 

+1 HS
jeremytwoface's picture

Bradley played very good this game. Just one small mistake that ended up being huge. He played much better overall for this game than last game.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

+2 HS
jamesrbrown322's picture

He was definitely better tonight, but still has been somewhat disappointing. But, as I said, we all would have taken 4 points at this stage in the game. Maybe they pull a shocker v. Germany, who knows? I'd love to see them win, a draw would be just fine. Also, I'd prefer a Port-Ghana tie, just so the U.S. finishes in a clear 2nd position.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

ponder10's picture

I thought Bradley played reasonably well. He missed the pass in stoppage but his momentum seemed to be taking him in the opposite direction.

The goat of the game was Cameron. He played amazing after the botched clear allowing the first goal all the way up until that cross by Ronaldo. Cameron was just jogging through the box and not looking to see if anyone was around him. Dude from Portugal just flew by him for an easy header.

That was painful!

“In the end we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what we understand. We will understand only what we are taught.” ~ Baba Dioum

OldColumbusTown's picture

To me, the responsibility of that last goal falls on, if anyone, Fabian Johnson.  It was his man - Cameron was crashing down centrally to nullify the runner over his right shoulder (I think it was Bruno Alves).  Cameron even glanced off to his right just before Ronaldo's cross to ensure his man was not dangerous.  He had zero idea that Varela was over his left shoulder.  If FJ cannot get there in time to head off the cross to Varela, then he has to make Cameron aware of the runner.  Either he did not do it loud enough or he did not do it at all, because you could tell after the fact that Cameron was stunned.

Now don't get me wrong - Cameron has to be thinking that no chances can be taken in that instance and game situation, but if he knows a runner is there he can dive for a header away.  Instead, he tried to clear with his foot.  But with all that said, nothing comes of any of this if CR7 doesn't hit a perfectly weighted and placed ball and Varela doesn't finish it.  Although everyone wants to have a scapegoat sometimes you must tip your cap for a brilliant play.

ponder10's picture

If it was on Fabian Johnson then that really sucks because he and Jermaine Jones have been the best players for the US over the first two games. Jones has a motor like I've never seen.

“In the end we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what we understand. We will understand only what we are taught.” ~ Baba Dioum

kevdale86's picture

Both games are noon Thursday

Go1Bucks's picture

The US, historically, absolutely sucks in stoppage time.

Go Bucks!

+1 HS
RedStorm45's picture

And in the opening minutes.

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RedStorm45's picture

And in the opening minutes.

Dweinz's picture
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Knarcisi's picture

Hell, give Ronaldo a free kick and we'll go to the next round as it bounces off the stands. 

+3 HS
Deadly Nuts's picture

Or he'll do this:

 

LEBRON

luckynutz's picture

As soon as ronaldo touched that ball, it was curtains. Did a fairly admirable job of hemming him up for most of the game. Aside from when he just outright went rick vaughn on several choice looks at the goal.

RedStorm45's picture

Michael Bradley has been horrendous.

 

We should be rooting for Portugal on Thursday.  We're up on them by 5 in the goal differential.  So even if they beat Ghana by 2 and we lose to Germany by 2, we're still in.  Obviously a draw or win gets us through - unlikely.  So we just have to hope once Germany takes their inevitable lead, they just sit on +1.  And then we have to hope Ghana/Portugal draw or Portgual wins by a small-ish margin.

OldColumbusTown's picture

You are definitely entitled to your opinion, but I don't get the outrage for Michael Bradley's play.  Admittedly, his play against Ghana was easily subpar, but he also was playing an attacking midfielder role without the ball.  He chases box to box, has significant defensive responsibilities, and is also tasked with basically starting and creating the US attack.

He was not good against Ghana with the ball, but hardly had it.  Against Portugal, he did well defensively, tracking back numerous times to slow Portugal's threat.  He always made himself available to the backs when possession was won, and his passing was clinical at times (I believe I read he completed 60 of 69 passes, with 7 of the misses occurring in the US's attacking third).  He presented himself well on his scoring chances, albeit unluckily missing the sitter in front of goal.  He hits that shot 3 inches in any direction of where he did, and it is an easy goal.

He made one "BIG" mistake (losing possession of the ball in the 95th minute 65 yards away from goal with 5 defenders behind him) and he gets lambasted as if he is the cause for the result.  I don't get it...

Go1Bucks's picture

Besides Bradley's missed play on the ball, Johnson should of tackled Ronaldo to prevent that feed.  Even had it resulted in a free kick, we would have been set, but he just stood there.  stupid.

Go Bucks!

OldColumbusTown's picture

Yeah I believe it was Beasley, but you could tell he thought for a second about going all-out to dive in there and tackle the ball as it arrived to Ronaldo, but the ball was placed just well enough Beas wasn't sure he could get there in time.  That's a spot where you take zero chances to gift a breakaway, and if you aren't sure you can get there before Ronaldo you just can't do it.

The crazy thing is for any player in the world, minus one (CR7), you expect them to take that ball and have a cross just as Ronaldo did.  Yet, the one guy you expect to try to beat you himself did not do that in this instance.  Beasley was playing for Ronaldo to have a go at him, and I think the cross took him by surprise.