I don't know if it can be done, but due to recent developments within the football forum I think it's time to ask whether 11w is capable of limiting the amount of threads that individuals can create, either: a) based on helmet stickers; or b) one thread created per day. Anything of that sort? Other ideas are welcomed but I can't be the only one who has seen this issue in the last few days
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My idea might be a bit complicated but, I think you should start out with a certain number you're allowed per week after you get to a certain amount of helmet stickers, say three blog posts/forums after you get to 100 stickers.
From here there can be a voting system for said blog post/forum topics but these votes dont effect your helmet stickers....call them gold pants. If you earn a certain number of gold pants you get more blog post/forum topic creating privelages. If you create sucky blog posts/forum topics you could have your creating privelages, and dare I say fan card, revoked. I would down vote the crap out of blog post/forum topics that are duplicates of information elsewhere on the site.
If something like this were to happen, I would be okay with it if GSW automatically received privelages to create at least 7 blog post/forum topics per week.
I dunno, just a thought during halftime of this dookie beatdown. Go Bucks!
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I love it, and I think the staff should take a serious look at it
I was wondering that same thing..granted I am still just a newbie on here so I haven't seen everything ever posted. But there just seems like alot of postings that are put on here that come off as "matter-of-fact" when really they are just rumors that have no basis. I think it ok to ask a hypothetical-question or simply state what your desire would be in regards to the subject matter, however in doing so it should be rather obvious thats what it is and not something that is being portrayed as " Breaking News."
That being said, I for one would not have a problem if there were limits to the number of daily threads or if the producer of those threads was to be identified before hand so that we as readers can decide in our own minds whether or not to read them before even clicking the mouse. Thereby saving us the trouble of deciphering the aacc level of broken-english and sentence fragments that make one want to put a boot through our monitors.
“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.”
What has happened to necessitate this? I've been absent the last couple days...
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
Check out OSUFORLIFE. Terrible threads and started like 10 in one day with no relevant information.
I scope this site out 3+ times a day. I'm not a big commentor but I think it is perfectly reasonable to ignore threads you are not interested in. Maybe a more helpful possibility would be for people who have enough helmet stickers (when did these start, I might just be dumb but I've been here since pre-Urban and I never noticed) to combine common threads.
Side note- It would be nice to be able to apply an auto delete function to posts that violate the paywall protocol.
I don't actually go to the forums, just check out the active in the forum on the side of the page. When doing so I am unable to tell who created the forum topic. I do this because the AFB network is slow and the extra page loads take considerable time. Unfortunately all time saving maneuvers are thusly wasted on garbage threads created for the sole reason of generating helmet stickers.
What he is referring to is not the content of the articles, but certain nameless individuals have put up 12 blog posts in fewer than 36 hours. Some are ok others not so much and it just clogs up the boards.
I don't see the big deal at this point. I am on the site numerous times daily and haven't had an issue. The forum posts that people aren't interested in fall off the main page quite quickly.
Maybe I'm one the ones you're referring to, but I personally like seeing more and more threads being created here. I probably only open about 35% of them (those that get my attention) but I like having a lot of them to scan thru. It's easy once you realize you're not a fan of certain posters to see their name at the top on the thread and immediately move on. Maybe they should identify the creator of the thread in the headline so you don't even open it to begin with?
D. Anthony
That's one way to look at it, but you can't always screen the creators, and since I (and many like myself) really only like to discuss topics related to certain subjects and avoid the fluff, it would be nice to not have to sort through dozens of vaguely titled duds to find the gems
You're not one who I'm referring to, it is OSUFORLIFE as the poster above mentioned. I'm trying not to make a big deal, I haven't flamed the guy in his threads or asked him to stop. I just wanted to post this for possible solutions. Obviously I can ignore the threads, but needless clutter makes it harder to find more substantive threads which could have been pushed to page two.
I like the idea posted above, but I'm not sure if its possible.
I wasn't implying that you were referring to me, I average like, a thread per week most of the time haha.
Im just saying, it's hard to screen unless it's one bad poster, like in this case, but you still have sort through garbage
I know Buck, you're one of the good ones. I was answering D.Anthony's question
Woah, just had one of those finals week "I havent slept since Monday" hallucinations I think, haha. Carry on
You should be able to upvote/down vote the original forum post. Could help with people creating useless threads.
I totally agree with this. In fact, someone had a forum post requesting this just a couple of weeks ago.
I like this idea.
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I also think no helmet stickers should be awarded to duplicate threads. We have had multiple threads of the same topic recently and I feel it is either a sticker grab, or laziness in not reading the threads already started.
Personally, I think helmet stickers should be removed entirely. Failed experiment.
OSU is gonna win the national championship in 2013. It's all good.
How about we eliminate redundant threads, for example: Timmons threads, fire Fickell threads, Who's the next commit threads, Why OSU is the best team in the country etc etc.
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
I'm ok with your examples except the Why OSU is the Best. I can NEVER get enough of those.
But that's just me.
Sure...but HOW do you do that? Thinking from a software/logic perspective, how does the "site" know a thread is redundant? For example, once a "Timmons" thread is created, you can't necessarily block all fuutre threads with "Timmons" in the title, because maybe the first Timmons thread was about an injury he had, but maybe the next one is about his recruitment and how he has now named OSU as his top choice.
I'm not dogging your idea, I'm more just proposing "HOW?" something like that would be implemented.
I personally agree that redundant threads are confusing or annoying. But someone could even create a redundant thread with out knowing it or intending to.
I was thinking this same thing while I was reading this thread. You can't really put a finite limit on threads about a certain topic. Would they pay a couple people to monitor the boards to ensure that no topics are identical? Highly unlikely. I think it's unfeasible to limit similar topics from being started.
I see where they're coming from, though. There are a lot of threads that don't need to be started or threads that can be bunched together instead of spread out into 10 different threads that pertain to similar things. If there needs to be a system, a rating system might be the best way to do this in all honesty. I know some people hate it, but it's really the only thing that allows us to police ourselves (to a point). Not having a rating system won't curb excessive thread counts from some guys either. People will still start threads regardless.
The one thing I fear with a rating system for threads is that sometimes it is unintentional. I started a thread once that was discussed inside of another thread. I obviously didn't know this but it was brought up on my thread that it was already being discussed. Providing a rating system for threads may allow for some people to be unfairly scrutinized. It may curb a few thread-starters, but we all know how people can be on these boards when given the chance to give unlimited downvotes to something. None of us really want that. I'm not sure there will really be a happy medium for everyone.
Maybe a feature that allows users to hide threads? Sounds simpler than some of the other ideas
I know on Yahoo if a comment gets enough downvotes it automatically gets hidden with a message that says "Comment hidden due to low community rating". Maybe a function that does the same for threads on here. These silly threads are nothing more than trolling or posting from an over-eager 10-year old (or both).
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
That happens with enough downvotes now I believe.
It does, but there's no way to rate the actual forum topics right now. I agree that the ability to bounce undesirable topics out of view would be pretty sweet.
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Why don't we just allow voting on thread topics? Say, if a topic gets, like, an aggregate voting score of -5 or lower, it gets hidden from the "Active in the Forum" sidebar, and the thread is flagged for the staff/mods to delete if it's flamebait or redundant. If the staff/mods choose not to delete it, it can still be accessed by manually accessing the forums--perhaps carrying an icon (like a big "X", for example) signifying its status?
The ablity to upvote/ downvote the poster in the thread they started may help in alleviating the current issue as well.
Nothing like dancing on the field in 02...
Or you could just take the hit in points for however many downvotes your forum post receives. You get the 5 points for creating it, and say you get 10 downvotes--you've still lost a net of 5 points.
Maybe we shouldn't up/downvoting on forum posts, just a "flag" button if you think that it is worthless and/or redundant. However many "flags" your forum post receives is subtracted from your aggregate helmet stickers. This would be a relatively simple fix, and could go a long way towards curbing forum clogging.
Yeah, any of those would work, because everytime you post a new forum topic you get helmet stickers..so basically if someone is getting close to that -50 mark for whatever reason...they can just go crazy making new forum topics and get there number back up to stay on the site. thus allowing them to continue to troll...
You can't post content if you're under zero Helmet Stickers, I do believe.
ah, was not aware of that little point. well then, my comment is only part true-ish
I tend to look at the forums quite a bit, and I'm one that if I think it's a horrible thread, I just click onto the next one. I'm not telling everyone else how to think, because I agree it's annoying, but it's also annoying reading 30 posts where people are blasting the person. I'm not talking all criticism either, there are just blatant "jerk" comments made.
I'm not sure how to rein it in really, unless there were a way they could get held for approval or something like that. I like the idea of having the forums and blog posts and the helmet stickers for that matter. I don't like setting a limit to 100 stickers before people contribute though, because what if these people have something valid to say or some nice content they could post?
Perhaps setting it at 100 would clean up the forums a bit and encourage people to put a lot of thought into a post and creat a blog entry instead. I'm not sure how to police it, but I'm not crazy about things that exclude some of the community just because they happen to be new.
this was always my fear. people spamming the forums for helmet stickers. I agree there needs to be some sort of restriction on the amount you can make in say, 24-48 hours
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I was just going to post this:
"FOOTBALL...COOL AIN'T IT"
Thanks to all the Debra Downers out there, now I'm not going to do it !
POO
I agree with the idea of being able to vote up or down threads. I also like the idea of having some forum/blog creating privilages and then "unlocking" more/new ones as people either upvote your content or you gain more helmet stickers.
How about you only get stickers for the number of comments a post generates? Say, one sticker for every 10 comments. Then you don't get rewarded for creating a topic no one cares about.
Way to think outside the box a little there, Earle. That never even crossed my mind. I think so many of us have been myopic towards just voting on the thread itself that no one else thought of this. Kudos, for sure.
To play devil's advocate, though (I guess this is the inner artist in me), what about threads that start and go off topic (which happens rather easily) or threads that continue on subject but more about how this doesn't need to be posted. It's essentially rewarding a thread-starter for off-topic comments or rants from other posters. You might be able to set the limit higher than 10 but it may not counteract all of that. Just curious as to what you think on that.
Cuts both ways, I guess. I thought about the troll posts that get hammered by the commentariat actually being rewarded by a bunch of negative comments. Not sure 10 is the right number, just something I threw out.
Maybe cap the max stickers you can get for posting a thread at whatever the current award is for starting a post.
Yeah, about the only flaw that I can think of in your method is that it doesn't actually discourage redundant or moronic blogposts. If you hit someone in the helmet stickers, they may be less likely to post the actual topic (either by way of dropping below 0 stickers, or by the sheer threat of it).
You're right. The basic flaw in the current system is that it rewards quantity rather than quality. I like the idea of it costing stickers to create a forum topic or blog post (whoever had it). You build equity (stickers) by making good comments. You get enough, you can "buy" a forum topic like buying a vowel on Wheel of Fortune. If it is a good topic, you earn back your cost with comments. If no one cares/comments, those stickers are lost forever, and even if you get a ton of comments for an idiotic post, your upside is capped.
Boom!! #herron'd
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How about you up the number of stickers needed to vote and up the number needed to make a post. MgoBlog does a good job of this to weedout post!
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I'm just spit balling here, and I do hope no one else mentioned this. I've read this all but I've been in and out of stuff at my office so excuse me if I inadvertently skipped over it. But what if there was a "cost" to starting topics and blogs? It could be helmet stickers or a "gold pants" system that someone mentioned earlier and so many gold pants or stickers allow you to vote on these topics as well. Say it costs 10 helmet stickers or gold pants and you can earn these back with a certain amount of comments (as Earle mentioned) or with a voting system. If you do a gold pants system, you could limit the voting to those who have similar thread access with gold pants. I don't know, again, just spit balling ideas at this point.
normally i don't like banning people frankly i am against it.
but OSUFORLIFE has added nothing to the community.
we could IPban him or restrict his profile down to basically read only.
English is not his first lanuage, also that's a little haughty of you to decide who and when we should issue IP bans don't you think?
This is a wonderful place for all OSU fans. Just skim the topics and read the ones you want to.
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For me its kind of a hard issue. Those who are active in the forum are now obviously familiar now with OSUFORLIFE. On one end of the spectrum, I would feel it to be a little mean and jerk-ishif we told him to stop posting. But on the other end, yeah he's a foreigner and a big Ohio State fan, but is his Englsih really the issue here? The honest answer for me is no, the issue has been the content (or lack-there-of) in his posts and the frequency of them. With all of this being said, banning him would be unfair and a shame.
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I'm just going to say it, and I know it's wrong of me. But how do we know he is foreign...just because that is what he told us? He could just be bad at grammar...
i mean isnt this whole thread basically a message to say stop posting.
@JESTERTCF i agree with you. but i didnt say bring out the banhammer. i was just saying if it continues it might be the only way.
I believe I read he is in the Middle East somewhere (Israel?), and what is perceived as annoying comments/threads may just be the result of someone who is far removed from Buckeye Country despite the internet. I was in Hawaii for a week and felt the same way. Just a theory, but I think we need to cut OSUFORLIFE some slack.
How about we expand the Blog Posts and Forum posts to include the author with the title. If you don't like the poster, don't read the article.
doesn't sound like he is in Israel to me...
Ok, maybe from Israel as he states in this thread...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/football/2012/11/michael-bennett
Okay, to call him a liar is a tad ridiculous. I believe him and want him to continue posting, just perhaps he could learn posting etiquette a little better and how it generally works and this "problem" would be solved.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
A flood limit would be an excellent idea.
I'm all for giving gold pants for any post getting 10+ up votes and if you get 10+ down votes you get an Illibuck or a Paul Bunyon axe :)
D. Anthony
Just a heads up. In case I do some really crazy forum thread creation in the next couple days I will have an excuse. I will be all jacked up on morphine as I am getting a complete shoulder replacement Friday morning. I will be hospitalized for 2-3 days so just so you know, please cut me some slack as I will continue to need my 11W fix daily as the drugs will not suffice. I will have full access to a laptop and wifi at all times so be warned, look out! Thanks.
Morphine? I think you mean "jacked down." Anyway, best of luck with the surgery.
Thanks William. Yeah you are right about the down thing. Just know I will be "off". Lets use that term.
I imagine your next few days are going to be very mellow. Again, best of luck.
This will be my third surgery, of course the first two were repairing what was there. If this one involves the pain the other two did, it will be a miracle if it can be even a little mellow. I do expect this one to be the most painful yet. So rather than sit and whine, maybe I can get away from things here. Certainly hope to be able to at least kick up some dust.
Best of luck Lou. Here's hoping for a quick recovery...or at least a bunch of pain meds
Thought they might be working on your toes, Lou. Good luck to you, sir and godspeed on your recovery.
theDuke
Good luck with your surgery. Also, I strongly encourage morphine induced posting. It sounds like it could be very entertaining for us all.
I couldn't agree with the OP more. You would think if you were going to start forum topic that you would make the post coherent, with proper spelling and grammar. Sometimes the content of the post is good and worth discussing, but I usually want to ignore anything that is poorly written.
I appreciate it, but this wasn't really about his grammar, punctuation, or anything like that. I think that everyone should be able to make a thread regardless of how poorly written it is. This thread was really about the sheer volume of threads that were being created by the same individual within a short period of time with absolutely zero substance to them at all..
Or I can grant myself powers to merge threads since we have multiple threads and delete some old ones... idk I actually have time on my hands to do stuff like that.
Oh well! Carry on fellow warriors!
Ooh look! The downvote troll has struck almost everyone here! Time to toss out some free upvotes to counter the asshattery!
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
Maybe threads should be approved by staff members?
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I remember a time when 11W didn't necessitate threads such as this one.
(sighs)
(embraces for downvotes)
(doesn't really care)
Would it be out of line for a Mod or staff member to just contact the person in question and advise him to limit his posting to OSU related topics rather than have everyone berate him for his forum etiquette?
I used to stick with just the main page stuff but I love the forum conversations. Mostly I just pass through those that make no sense and act like nothing is there.
but then again, I think most of us are like me in that I must be a gluton for punishment and have to see what stupidity can arise.
Voting on blog posts and forum topics has now been enabled. Hopefully this helps.
Please let me know if you run into any problems.
Thank you!
Great idea. Thanks for listening