This isn't a bug- it's a question. If at -50 helmet stickers you can no longer comment, create blogs, or create forum topics, then there is no way for that person to ever move up from -50 helmet stickers.
Is that intentional?
I'm not planning any bad comment assaults or attackes, so I don't plan on being negative, but am just curious.
Just realized that we have the ability to vote for ourselves, I'm thinking that--in the spirit of one of the oldest lessons in all of recorded history--such absolute power will surely corrupt us, absolutely.
Question: How did you determine my join date? Because I have the stickers from this thread, which was in 2008. So I know I have been here longer than 2010!
I don't think comments are supposed to move "up" when voted. I think they remain in chronological order. At least I hope so. It's tough as heck to tell a conversation if you move just the upvotes higher on the page.
And @DallastheLogian the forum topics move up and down based on activity. If you want to see them on the side bar you have to comment. The posts with the most recent comments are at the top.
Hey jason, is there a chart of what privileges you get when you reach certain number of stickers above the 50 that is needed to vote? I am curious what other privileges could we get.
Like if we reach 250 stickers, we get a special font or color during live chats! That way those trolls can't come on and use our username.
This isn't a bug- it's a question. If at -50 helmet stickers you can no longer comment, create blogs, or create forum topics, then there is no way for that person to ever move up from -50 helmet stickers.
Is that intentional?
Yes. We don't know if -50 is the perfect number, but we think it's a good start. I'm hoping that it's kind of hard for people to get to that point and it's only used to deal with obvious trolls, jerks, etc.
Question: How did you determine my join date? Because I have the stickers from this thread, which was in 2008. So I know I have been here longer than 2010!
Unfortunately, we could only go back to when we moved to our new platform on 8/22/2010. It's not perfect, but it's what we had to work with.
Hey jason, is there a chart of what privileges you get when you reach certain number of stickers above the 50 that is needed to vote? I am curious what other privileges could we get.
Yes, we are working to put something together. If you have any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
Can't vote for ourselves? Damn. I was planning on testing Hodge's reminder about absolute power and becoming completely corrupt (instead of just casually corrupt, morally bankrupt, & ethically challenged).
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
Missed one day on the site and have no idea what these "helmet stickers" are. Anyone able to fill me in? Does it have anything to do with the /\ and \/ next to the poster's name in the comments section? If so, please don't go all \/ on me for asking a silly question.
My bad on blowing the whistle for self-voting corruption, clearly I lack the requisite faith in eleven-dub's code. (Full disclosure, I felt kinda bad testing my theorem--it just seemed like I could do it)
Hopefully, the mods and staff here don't find this lack of faith disturbing enough to choke me via the force...
I seem to be able to vote on some threads and not others. I can go back on old ones and vote, but I can't vote in this one or the Tuesday Skully specifically so far.
Never mind, now I can. Do you have to comment on the thread before you can vote?
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
BucksFanXC - I just upvoted you prior to leaving this comment as a test to see if you have to comment on a thread to be able to vote. You can vote without leaving a comment.
Ok, so I click upvote on some threads and it doesn't do anything. I leave the thread and come back and it has a green up arrow where it recorded my upvote but didn't show up until I refreshed. I'm using IE (stupid work).
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
Not a bug (I don't believe); however, I am unable to see the level of votes that have been given to comments at this time. I understand that the minimum number of stickers to make a vote is 50 and I'm not quite there, but I want to make sure that if you don't have 50 stickers it is intended that you don't see the vote status.
In short, I cannot vote yet but also cannot see what votes have been made. Working as intended?
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
I deliberately gave M Man a buckeye sticker! lol I want him to get more buckeye stickers than he can handle, and then he converts because his fellow UMs found out that he has the most buckeye stickers from his probuckeye comments on a buckeye fan website!
Similar to what ALHAN asked... Is it possible to "See" the votes without actually having the ability to vote?
Would be unfortunate to those that lose stickers, but then are unable to see which post cost them the sticker. The inverse is also true... If I post something that brings in the stickers, I would have a better grasp on what the community would like to see more of.
I had seen the script errors before, but I haven't in a while. I just assumed it was because you guys fixed it, but it did start occurring when I got voting privileges.
Is there a way or can there be a way for voting on the original forum post. I haven't seen it and when someone starts a really good forum post I think they should get votes out of it. Only see voting in the replies.
I think voting would be more meaningful if we only got one vote per day. If you could only upvote or downvote once per day, getting a vote on your comment would mean a lot more. And it would reduce the phenomenon of people ganging up on people expressing unpopular opinions. If you only have one vote to spend per day, you're probably not going to spend it on a downvote unless the comment is really egregious. And I believe that was the original intention, right? (Unfortunately, at present, people seem to just be downvoting anything they don't agree with.)
Anyway, just a suggestion... Thanks for all your work making this site a fun and friendly internet destination!
The only problem with that is that the Helmet Stickers serve to allow the 11W commentariat to police themselves, and only being able to spend one vote a day means that we lose the ability to effectively gang up on trolls.
I do agree with your stance on "people ganging up on opinions", though; Houston, we have groupthink.
This isn't a helment sticker bug but I was wondering if there was a Skull Session that talked about the helmet sticker for forum topics and how that effected your overall helmet sticker count. If there was no announcement of this in a skull session or likewise, please ignore this.
Ohio State's band SLAUGHTERED Michigan's band. If this were a football game, it would have been Florida State vs. Savannah State. - SB Nation following OSU vs. UM 2012
I, too get error messages when trying to vote. It seems to happen if my first few attempts at voting don't record. Once I get the error message, within several seconds, I'll see my vote recorded. If I don't see my updated vote, when I try to vote again, it tells me I have already voted.
I have a problem...not a bug...please start HAMMERING ppl who violate the voting process. Really getting tired of stalkers/haters just absolutely FLAMING me or others for this below (especially what's in bold). Otherwise I wish you guys at 11W would just get rid of it personally. Liked it better without it...
•Upvote anything that's well-articulated. Even if it's contrarian and inspires you to write up a 1500-word response, give opposing viewpoints the same love you'd give something you agree with 100%.
•Upvote anything witty that makes you laugh (or most anything Denny posts).
•Funny pictures? Upvote.
•Use the upvote to cancel out needless downvotes. Not everyone plays by the same rules, and a lot of quality comments get downvoted into oblivion because someone (A) doesn't like the poster, (B) doesn't like their arguement, or (C) doesn't like the team they root for.
•Use your downvotes sparingly, for things that are obviously over-the-line. If you're violating the policy (i.e. "being a jerk"), let the downvotes rain.
•If it's borderline, play it safe.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
There are going to be a handful of idiots that downvote some stuff they shouldn't downvote. We need to make sure there are more than just a handful of non-idiots that vote. So vote up more often. The idiots that downvote will matter less and less.
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
This isn't a bug- it's a question. If at -50 helmet stickers you can no longer comment, create blogs, or create forum topics, then there is no way for that person to ever move up from -50 helmet stickers.
Is that intentional?
I'm not planning any bad comment assaults or attackes, so I don't plan on being negative, but am just curious.
Is there a way to up or downvote forum topics or is that completely controlled by the moderators?
Just realized that we have the ability to vote for ourselves, I'm thinking that--in the spirit of one of the oldest lessons in all of recorded history--such absolute power will surely corrupt us, absolutely.
Question: How did you determine my join date? Because I have the stickers from this thread, which was in 2008. So I know I have been here longer than 2010!
seems to me comments arent really moving "up" when voted, am I misunderstanding the concept?
I don't think comments are supposed to move "up" when voted. I think they remain in chronological order. At least I hope so. It's tough as heck to tell a conversation if you move just the upvotes higher on the page.
The comments don't move you just see the votes.
And @DallastheLogian the forum topics move up and down based on activity. If you want to see them on the side bar you have to comment. The posts with the most recent comments are at the top.
Hey jason, is there a chart of what privileges you get when you reach certain number of stickers above the 50 that is needed to vote? I am curious what other privileges could we get.
Like if we reach 250 stickers, we get a special font or color during live chats! That way those trolls can't come on and use our username.
Yes. We don't know if -50 is the perfect number, but we think it's a good start. I'm hoping that it's kind of hard for people to get to that point and it's only used to deal with obvious trolls, jerks, etc.
Right now, voting is only enabled on comments. Forum topics rise/fall with activity.
Are you sure you can vote for yourself? You shouldn't be able to do so.
Unfortunately, we could only go back to when we moved to our new platform on 8/22/2010. It's not perfect, but it's what we had to work with.
Yes, we are working to put something together. If you have any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
@Jason, I saw the post, and I just checked, we aren't able to vote for ourselves.
Thanks, William.
Will we get stickers for Moderating live blog events?
Can't vote for ourselves? Damn. I was planning on testing Hodge's reminder about absolute power and becoming completely corrupt (instead of just casually corrupt, morally bankrupt, & ethically challenged).
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
Missed one day on the site and have no idea what these "helmet stickers" are. Anyone able to fill me in? Does it have anything to do with the /\ and \/ next to the poster's name in the comments section? If so, please don't go all \/ on me for asking a silly question.
John read mondays skull session
Thank you +^ ........... informative.
My bad on blowing the whistle for self-voting corruption, clearly I lack the requisite faith in eleven-dub's code. (Full disclosure, I felt kinda bad testing my theorem--it just seemed like I could do it)
Hopefully, the mods and staff here don't find this lack of faith disturbing enough to choke me via the force...
Awesome! I missed the announcement, so how does it all work?
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
I seem to be able to vote on some threads and not others. I can go back on old ones and vote, but I can't vote in this one or the Tuesday Skully specifically so far.
Never mind, now I can. Do you have to comment on the thread before you can vote?
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
This is a particularly interesting development for somebody like me, who exists here only by the good graces of the thoughtful 11W community.
But what a great week for me on Eleven Warriors -- a bye week for Michigan, and the Buckeyes go against Michigan State.
GO BUCKS! BEAT LITTLE BROTHER!
BucksFanXC - I just upvoted you prior to leaving this comment as a test to see if you have to comment on a thread to be able to vote. You can vote without leaving a comment.
BucksfanXC- I just upvoted on here without commenting, so I would say no.
edit- TENN is faster
Ok, so I click upvote on some threads and it doesn't do anything. I leave the thread and come back and it has a green up arrow where it recorded my upvote but didn't show up until I refreshed. I'm using IE (stupid work).
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
Don't know if this is a bug or not related to the helmet-stickers, I started getting browser script errors shortly after giving a few votes.
Only after I went back to the main homepage and refreshed did the script errors go away.
I'm using IE 8.0.7600.16385
@ M Man: You will be turned sooner or later.
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
Not a bug (I don't believe); however, I am unable to see the level of votes that have been given to comments at this time. I understand that the minimum number of stickers to make a vote is 50 and I'm not quite there, but I want to make sure that if you don't have 50 stickers it is intended that you don't see the vote status.
In short, I cannot vote yet but also cannot see what votes have been made. Working as intended?
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
I deliberately gave M Man a buckeye sticker! lol I want him to get more buckeye stickers than he can handle, and then he converts because his fellow UMs found out that he has the most buckeye stickers from his
probuckeye comments on a buckeye fan website!Similar to what ALHAN asked... Is it possible to "See" the votes without actually having the ability to vote?
Would be unfortunate to those that lose stickers, but then are unable to see which post cost them the sticker. The inverse is also true... If I post something that brings in the stickers, I would have a better grasp on what the community would like to see more of.
Is anyone else seeing this?
I had seen the script errors before, but I haven't in a while. I just assumed it was because you guys fixed it, but it did start occurring when I got voting privileges.
I am Jason, but only on 1 particular laptop...
Displaying the count (to everyone) is on our short-term to-do list.
We now have a leaderboard...
Hey MMan, since yous guys have a bye week, I thought you'd just be watching the Lingerie League this weekend?
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
BTW MMan, if you change your avatar to something less offensive, I'll give you 10 of my helmet stickers.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
I ran into it once yesterday but I did not see it again and I don't know how to recreate without a lot of running around and upvoting.
Firefox 15.0.1
I will keep an eye out and report details if it happens again.
EDIT: OK, just happened! Will email the details/screenshots.
I also get this from time to time and believe my Java/ flash is up to dated.
Nothing like dancing on the field in 02...
Is there a way or can there be a way for voting on the original forum post. I haven't seen it and when someone starts a really good forum post I think they should get votes out of it. Only see voting in the replies.
I think voting would be more meaningful if we only got one vote per day. If you could only upvote or downvote once per day, getting a vote on your comment would mean a lot more. And it would reduce the phenomenon of people ganging up on people expressing unpopular opinions. If you only have one vote to spend per day, you're probably not going to spend it on a downvote unless the comment is really egregious. And I believe that was the original intention, right? (Unfortunately, at present, people seem to just be downvoting anything they don't agree with.)
Anyway, just a suggestion... Thanks for all your work making this site a fun and friendly internet destination!
Real fans stay for Carmen.
The only problem with that is that the Helmet Stickers serve to allow the 11W commentariat to police themselves, and only being able to spend one vote a day means that we lose the ability to effectively gang up on trolls.
I do agree with your stance on "people ganging up on opinions", though; Houston, we have groupthink.
I disagree with this. I say let the helmet stickers fly!
This isn't a helment sticker bug but I was wondering if there was a Skull Session that talked about the helmet sticker for forum topics and how that effected your overall helmet sticker count. If there was no announcement of this in a skull session or likewise, please ignore this.
Ohio State's band SLAUGHTERED Michigan's band. If this were a football game, it would have been Florida State vs. Savannah State. - SB Nation following OSU vs. UM 2012
I, too get error messages when trying to vote. It seems to happen if my first few attempts at voting don't record. Once I get the error message, within several seconds, I'll see my vote recorded. If I don't see my updated vote, when I try to vote again, it tells me I have already voted.
I have a problem...not a bug...please start HAMMERING ppl who violate the voting process. Really getting tired of stalkers/haters just absolutely FLAMING me or others for this below (especially what's in bold). Otherwise I wish you guys at 11W would just get rid of it personally. Liked it better without it...
•Upvote anything that's well-articulated. Even if it's contrarian and inspires you to write up a 1500-word response, give opposing viewpoints the same love you'd give something you agree with 100%.
•Upvote anything witty that makes you laugh (or most anything Denny posts).
•Funny pictures? Upvote.
•Use the upvote to cancel out needless downvotes. Not everyone plays by the same rules, and a lot of quality comments get downvoted into oblivion because someone (A) doesn't like the poster, (B) doesn't like their arguement, or (C) doesn't like the team they root for.
•Use your downvotes sparingly, for things that are obviously over-the-line. If you're violating the policy (i.e. "being a jerk"), let the downvotes rain.
•If it's borderline, play it safe.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
There are going to be a handful of idiots that downvote some stuff they shouldn't downvote. We need to make sure there are more than just a handful of non-idiots that vote. So vote up more often. The idiots that downvote will matter less and less.
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
I've been able to upvote in the past, but now seem to be unable to? I have 75 helmet stickers according to my profile.
Any ideas?
EDIT: Just saw the BUCKSHOT. For those that are going to come here asking the same question, in order to upvote, the number has been changed to 100.