Next Commit?

By tdible2132 -02 March 2013
141 Comments
- Recruiting

Since things have been really slow on recruiting news lately (just that time of year), I thought I'd ask who people think the next commitment will be. I'm going to go with Dylan Thompson when he visits.

UrbzRenewal on 2 Mar 2013 - 1:31pm #

Kyle Berger this afternoon. Just taking a shot in the dark.

OhioBornMichiganBred on 3 Mar 2013 - 6:46pm #

Thought Berger was announcing in May after visiting BC, MSU and ND, as well as UM/OSU again?

tdible2132 on 3 Mar 2013 - 7:08pm #

Notice he said shot in the dark. Anything can happen in recruiting when a kid is visiting

tdible2132 on 2 Mar 2013 - 1:39pm #

Ha I like your style

HolyBuckeye1093 on 2 Mar 2013 - 2:02pm #

I believe Berger and Booker are both in Columbus this weekend.

oregonianbuckeye on 2 Mar 2013 - 6:30pm #

Hadn't heard Booker, is he really visiting this weekend?

Buckeye_TilIdie on 2 Mar 2013 - 2:08pm #

I'm going with Berger or Booker.

When someone shows you who they are believe them! In other words piss a good friend off and see what they really think about you.

syphon2677 on 2 Mar 2013 - 2:15pm #

Booker

tdible2132 on 2 Mar 2013 - 2:24pm #

Getting either of those guys soon would be spectacular. We could start putting more focus on McMillan and Garrett if we locked one of them up. Berger would be especially sweet considering he visited ScUM last weekend and they are all excited that there gonna get him and he'll be the next Jake Ryan

buckguyfan1 on 2 Mar 2013 - 2:55pm #

Per my wife.... I have no patience, but that is exactly what we need right now. Buckeye coaches are trying to figure out which lane they want much like at the Derby Races. I like many of you wish the BIG commits would sign right now, but we will have to wait as most of these premium recruits will take their time as they probably should to weigh all their options. Fear not my Buckeye Faithful... we will haul in our fare share and be very proud of another great recruiting class! Thompson is also my guess by the way. Go Bucks!

~Naples Buckeye - "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton, Jr.

Hayesedandconfused on 2 Mar 2013 - 3:14pm #

Booker

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 2 Mar 2013 - 3:33pm #

Booker or Berger

osubuck57 on 2 Mar 2013 - 4:08pm #

Hopefully Booker,Berger,and Thompson!!lol Hell, as sorry as Texas has played lately,they already have 8 locked up for 2014. Don't think they have the quality we have though.

SCOTTC.

GV9 on 3 Mar 2013 - 2:18am #

Not sure that "locked up" is the right wording for verbal commitments nowadays.

Maybe "trending" would be more accurate?

SouthernSailor on 3 Mar 2013 - 3:48pm #

In the eyes of the recruiting sites they have a very high quality class, I am not sure where you are getting this idea that they have quantity but low quality. Heck on ESPN I believe all them are watchlisters.

NO I am NOT saying dont have a quality group also.

northcampus on 2 Mar 2013 - 4:17pm #

Both of them? We could call them the "killer B's"?

SilverBulletNYC on 2 Mar 2013 - 6:15pm #

Dylan Thompson.

The 2012 National Champions.

tdible2132 on 2 Mar 2013 - 6:18pm #

Are you sure that Booker or Berger are in cbus holy buckeye? I haven't seen anyone say that anywhere so just wondering.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 2 Mar 2013 - 6:40pm #

I'm pretty sure Berger is. I saw him tweeting with Tommy Schutt about coming to his room when he's in town.

bbase22 on 2 Mar 2013 - 6:34pm #

Berger

tdible2132 on 2 Mar 2013 - 8:23pm #

This is a bit off topic but has anyone else heard about Drake Harris visiting Michigan again this weekend and possibly next? That would be 3 weekends in a row. I hope I'm wrong but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about him going to Michigan. We need to get him to OSU for a visit soon before its too late IMO.

hail2victors9 on 2 Mar 2013 - 9:21pm #

He is visiting tomorrow. Scheduled to be at the IU bball game, as well, but not sure if that was changed. Would be 3 weekends in a row. Him and Wilton Speight are getting pretty close and Harris' hs teammate Tommy Doles is rumored to be a Michigan lead. Not to mention, UM was runner up to MSU when Harris was planning on playing bball.

Long way to go, but I understand your concern.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

Poison nuts on 3 Mar 2013 - 1:15am #

Harris is both a M*ch kid & very much a prototypical UM recruit as far as WRs go...Tall, great hands & even has great speed. I'd love to see him as a Buckeye, but wouldn't be very surprised if he ends up with your boys.

The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.

GV9 on 3 Mar 2013 - 2:11am #

I would settle for Malik McDowell instead ;)

OhioBornMichiganBred on 3 Mar 2013 - 11:08am #

That's probably not gonna happen either. Most of the talking heads from the recruiting sites have Malik as between ND/UM.

tampa buckeye on 3 Mar 2013 - 12:40pm #

Down vote because of that M.

d1145fresh on 3 Mar 2013 - 12:59pm #

I thought Michigan didn't like to recruit kids with great speed?

tampa buckeye on 3 Mar 2013 - 6:33pm #

Michigan is trying to play old school football. Not going to work vs Ohio State. Ohio State is set to go on another 10 year run with Urban at the helm.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 3 Mar 2013 - 7:43pm #

I've been arguing with a guy I know that is a scUM fan for about 6 months now and I keep bringing up the same point. 3 yards and a cloud of dust isn't going to work anymore. brady joke isn't adapting to the new landscape of college football. Urban understands it takes speed, speed, and more speed to win against the SEC. joke has done a decent job of recruiting o-linemen and that's it. scUM ended up with Derrick Green because we stopped recruiting him. He can't play traditional, slow B1G football anymore and expect to compete for national titles. I believe brady joke will be fired in the next 2-4 years.

hail2victors9 on 3 Mar 2013 - 9:49pm #

Seemed to work pretty well for Bama. 2 consecutive, consensus OL hauls and all signs pointing to a top notch group this year.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

lljjgg on 3 Mar 2013 - 10:07pm #

Alabama's had the #1 recruiting class something like 4 out of the last 5 years. Doesn't really matter what style of offense you play when you've got 4 and 5 stars 2-deep at every position.

STRAWMAN on 3 Mar 2013 - 10:08pm #

Bama's OLINE recruiting actually hasn't been very good. They have DEVELOPED their OLINE very well. By far offensive lineman are the hardest to project in college.

I would be afraid if y'all were attracting top talent in excess that would beat us out elsewhere.

But the fact is you aren't.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 3 Mar 2013 - 10:24pm #

Bama also has top notch players at every other position on the field. Gardener isn't going to get the job done throwing the ball. You better hope Morris can live up to his hype.

tampa buckeye on 4 Mar 2013 - 12:06pm #

Morris is a poor mans chad henne. Haha

ohhiyo on 8 Apr 2013 - 4:36pm #

I feel that after Urban's tenure here, he's going to leave this program better than what any of us can imagine.

hail2victors9 on 3 Mar 2013 - 9:52pm #

http://instagram.com/p/Wajx1blfB1/

Urban will have his work cut out for him with Harris. Unfortunately, Urban is fully capable. Rumors floating around that Harris has UM #1 now.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

tdible2132 on 3 Mar 2013 - 10:17pm #

As much as I hate to agree, this one is trending to you guys and trending there fast... Luckily we have Urban so we just need to get him to visit ASAP. It sucks that he had to cancel the visit he had planned due to urban being at the cruise for cancer. Just unlucky timing with that one.

Hayze on 2 Mar 2013 - 9:29pm #

This will come down to OSU and Michigan.

Do you guys know when he's planning to commit?

Right now I'd like later rather than earlier although like we've seen in the past, number of visits doesn't mean everything. See Vonn Bell.

buckeye85 on 5 Mar 2013 - 11:14am #

I wouldn't be too concerned about this. There of plenty of WRs on the board that are as good or better and play against MUCH better competition. I would take Kief, Kitt, or Todd based on competition alone. The last high profile kid coming out of the same division in Grand Rapids, that I can recall, was Kevin Grady and we all remember how that worked out.

buckguyfan1 on 2 Mar 2013 - 8:46pm #

Booker me a Berger with Jabrill Peppers on top!... Like I said I lack patience!

~Naples Buckeye - "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton, Jr.

SpoonerBuck33 on 3 Mar 2013 - 2:14am #

+1.........well done sir :)

williamwhite37 on 3 Mar 2013 - 5:06am #

Booker had a h.s. tournament basketball game Friday — what an athlete and quite a set of shoulders on him. Parris Campbell was like the 14th on a 15-player roster to get in the game, then took the ball out by the elbow and swooped in for a layup like Batman

buckeyestu on 3 Mar 2013 - 5:28am #

Berger will be the next one.

kareemabduljacobb on 3 Mar 2013 - 12:26pm #

Castel from OZone reported Booker visiting w/ Berger this weekend.

I'd post the tweet, but every time I do it always gets messed up.

Heartofohio on 3 Mar 2013 - 12:57pm #

I know he's not as highly rated as some of the other LB recruits, but I want Dillon Bates. His dad was was my dad's favorite player (Cowboys fan SMH). But I like players that have professional athlete parents, minus D. Carter. Normally it shows them what it takes to be elite. Normally.

tdible2132 on 3 Mar 2013 - 2:17pm #

I think Bates is definitely a possibility for this class. I worry about Garrett and McMillan actually coming to OSU and I think he's a viable back up option. We'll just have to see how it plays out though. Things are going to change quite a bit before NSD.

tdible2132 on 3 Mar 2013 - 2:34pm #

Anyone know if Berger is still on campus today?

yankeescum on 3 Mar 2013 - 6:22pm #

I think that we will get Garrett in the end, but I think that McMillan has a chance to go somewhere else. If that happens, I think that we offer Tinashe Bere, he looks like a slightly smaller Clifton Garrett to me. But I think that Booker is our next commit.

Ronrico86 on 3 Mar 2013 - 8:03pm #

yes yall are getting speed but just don't make the mistake mich made when they went to speed. i don't see urban doing that because he is recruiting big spped while richrod recruited small speed. it's will be some head banging games in the near future.

buck-I.8 on 3 Mar 2013 - 8:04pm #

Excuse me?

Ronrico86 on 3 Mar 2013 - 8:05pm #

excuse me what?

buck-I.8 on 4 Mar 2013 - 10:42am #

I thought maybe OSUFORLIFE was back, carry on

buckeye76BHop on 3 Mar 2013 - 10:34pm #

I would go with Booker...seems to be the biggest lock of the 2014 class as of right now. The rest seem to have us in their top 2 or 3 or right at the top/tied. So we'll see...but that's my call. As for Berger...not any time soon from what I've heard about when he wants to announce.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
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crusher on 4 Mar 2013 - 6:11am #

At this point I think any recruit is still in play. If OSU makes another run at a National Championship and Braxton makes it to New York recruits everywhere will be looking to visit here. I really believe the real recruiting will start when kids see us blowing teams out, Braxton ripping it up, Hyde getting his 1k yds, a wr getting 1k and Roby/Shazier getting voted All-Americans Winning will change everything. I do hope UM continues to trend upwards too. Let's face it with the playoffs coming OSU and UM need each other to be good in order for the Bigten to be legit.

A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men

Woodshed on 4 Mar 2013 - 9:13am #

No offense, but really none of that happened last year and OSU still ended up with a consensus top 3 class.

Adam21 on 4 Mar 2013 - 10:20am #

So imagine what can happen if any of that happens? I don't think Saban is a better (or as good of) recruiter than Urban, I think the play of the teams he coaches is his main recruiting tool.

Ahh Saturday on 4 Mar 2013 - 10:33am #

Can anybody confirm if Berger visited this weekend? There were some rumors, but I haven't seen anything definitive.

hail2victors9 on 4 Mar 2013 - 11:25am #

It appeared to be his plan, per his Tweets on Saturday. He and Tommy Schutt had a little back and forth (which is a violation, isn't it?) about meeting up, but I didn't see anything referencing an actual visit. He told someone named Tori that he was going with friends, not his parents. Didn't want to embed 4 tweets; I think this is all readable.

Kyle Berger 39 ‏@K_Bergs
OSU is the move today

Mar 2 Tommy Schutt ‏@TommySchutt
@K_Bergs text me when you get here!

Mar 2 Kyle Berger 39 ‏@K_Bergs
@TommySchutt ok, I'm coming to your's and Blake's room anyways

Mar 2 Tommy Schutt ‏@TommySchutt
@K_Bergs oh alright, hah sounds good

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

buck-I.8 on 4 Mar 2013 - 1:40pm #

Kyle can say that he knew Schutt before he signed with OSU, it's not a violation. He could've met him during Blake's recruiting cycle, or any number of scenarios. Either way, that's a rule that's largely unenforceable.

DallasTheologian on 4 Mar 2013 - 11:40am #

Don't think this is a violation that would/could ever be enforced.

Ahh Saturday on 4 Mar 2013 - 11:32am #

Thanks for info. Still pretty unclear as to the nature of the visit, but hanging with Schutt and Blake can't hurt the cause.

oregonianbuckeye on 4 Mar 2013 - 11:49am #

Alex tweeted that the nature of the visit was to hangout with the players (Thomas and Tommy specifically). He also indicated that Berger didn't meet with the coaches, but didn't really expect to.

tdible2132 on 4 Mar 2013 - 11:34am #

If they've met before (which I guarantee they have since Schutt is roommates with his good friend Blake Thomas), then I don't believe it's a violation for them to talk. Not positive though

hail2victors9 on 4 Mar 2013 - 11:58am #

First, I should've elaborated that I wasn't implying any wrongdoing, but more pointing out the stupidity of the NCAA. Roy Roundtree earned a secondary recruiting violation for Michigan last year by tweeting "Congratulations" to fellow Trotwood-Madison alum, Mike McCray. OSU earned a similar honor a week or two before/after that, as well, for a very similar twitter mention.

Yesterday at the basketball game, Shane Morris apparently won a free pizza ("random" seat drawing) and then gave it to Gardner so that it could be shared with Drake Harris (sitting between DG and SM). I'm not really sure what the issue is, but maybe something along the lines of Shane isn't enrolled in Michigan yet and would act as a "booster" by giving a recruit free food, but if Gardner was an acting "host" that he could participate in a meal with a recruit?

I just realized that being a compliance advisor/director would be one of the worst jobs in the world.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

brandonbauer87 on 4 Mar 2013 - 5:40pm #

That does indeed sound like a mess. But really, what are you supposed to do? Throw the pizza away? No chance.

Buckeyevstheworld on 4 Mar 2013 - 12:40pm #

It'd be nice if it were Peppers, McMillan, Lattimore, Garrett, Hurd, Carter, and then Booker.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

syphon2677 on 4 Mar 2013 - 5:34pm #

Drake Harris?

buck4 on 5 Mar 2013 - 11:55am #

I don't think he reads this blog. It might be a while before he answers you...

tdible2132 on 7 Apr 2013 - 4:58pm #

Just realized that my prediction when I made this post of Dylan Thompson being the next commit turned out to be correct! I'll go ahead and predict who I think the next commit (7th in the class) will be. My prediction: Derek Kief and it will be either at or right around the time of the Spring Game. Anyone else have other predictions?

otrain2416 on 7 Apr 2013 - 5:12pm #

Berger or Kitt my best guess

otrain2416 on 8 Apr 2013 - 9:01pm #

called it ^ keep em rolling Urban!

tdible2132 on 7 Apr 2013 - 5:18pm #

I definitely don't see Kitt committing anytime soon to a school. Hes just fishing for attention on twitter IMO so that explains his comment today of wanting to commit now. Could be wrong though. Berger is deciding sometime in May buy something tells me we will see a commitment before May. Booker was the other name besides Kief I thought of. We shall see how it plays out.

Buckeyevstheworld on 7 Apr 2013 - 5:29pm #

Booker. Followed by Raekwon and Kitt.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

buckeyeguy0615 on 7 Apr 2013 - 7:24pm #

I would agree with you but Raekwon had said he's not committing until December or the UA game. I would cry my eyes out if we were only getting our 8th commitment in December haha

Buckeyevstheworld on 7 Apr 2013 - 9:09pm #

Isn't he visiting Ohio State in the Summer? He might change his mind then.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Bucknut52 on 7 Apr 2013 - 6:58pm #

I'm going say it will be booker or a elite lineman

9Route on 7 Apr 2013 - 7:04pm #

Dante Booker

I'm just happy to be here

otrain2416 on 7 Apr 2013 - 9:36pm #

I would have guessed that too until last week Dante's dad came out and said his son won't be committing soon if he takes my advice

Buckeyevstheworld on 8 Apr 2013 - 12:15am #

I thought Dante's dad said Dante wouldn't be committing this weekend if he followed his advice.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

buckeyestu on 7 Apr 2013 - 11:03pm #

I will guess berger or kief.

buckeyeguy0615 on 8 Apr 2013 - 12:24am #

Anybody else wonder why McMillan and Berger talk all the time? But McMillan and Booker don't talk? So odd to me

Buckeyevstheworld on 8 Apr 2013 - 2:14am #

Why is it odd?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

buckeyeguy0615 on 8 Apr 2013 - 8:41am #

......... isn't Booker the higher ranked linebacker? They're both from Ohio. Usually good talent wants to talk to other good talent about coming together. Not saying Berger isn't good

Buckeyevstheworld on 8 Apr 2013 - 9:22am #

Yeah, but that doesn't mean they're going to hit it off right away. They can be bff when they dawn that S&G.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

buckeyeguy0615 on 8 Apr 2013 - 5:08pm #

You missed the point, nevermind. Seems like linebackers who want to play together seem to talk. I didn't say they were or they weren't hitting it off. I just wonder why Booker always seems left out. Seems like the only player he ever talks to is Parris Campbell. Not insinuating that there's something going on. Odd to ME. Like I said

UrbzRenewal on 8 Apr 2013 - 9:25am #

I think I'll go with Kief at the spring game.

Buckeyevstheworld on 8 Apr 2013 - 9:31am #

For some reason I feel like Kief's recruitment is going to be drawn out.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

UrbzRenewal on 8 Apr 2013 - 9:35am #

His strategy is very unique. Playing everything out via his website (run by his uncle). I think he may be a silent commit for a while, but I think he'll be a Buckeye regardless.

tdible2132 on 8 Apr 2013 - 9:31am #

Anyone else notice that with all the talk last year about Urban being too national in his recruiting that he's letting the border be breached is turning out to be completely false? We already have 4 commits out of 6 from Ohio and when you think about it we could realistically get commitments from Kief, Booker, Lattimore, Berger, Smith, and possibly a few other guys that are currently under the radar. My guess is we will end up with at least 9 commitments from in state out of our 20 or so total commitments. I'd say that's the definition of plucking the best of the best from Ohio and a good job of keeping others out of the state.

danbrown7665 on 8 Apr 2013 - 10:14am #

Probably Berger, but it certainly could be Kief.

"limitations, like fears are often just illusions"
-Michael Jordan, the greatest athlete of all time

Buckeyes125 on 8 Apr 2013 - 10:26am #

Hopefully, but I don't think it will be this weekend. You going to spring game?

danbrown7665 on 8 Apr 2013 - 5:04pm #

probably. What day is it on?

"limitations, like fears are often just illusions"
-Michael Jordan, the greatest athlete of all time

Squirrel Master on 8 Apr 2013 - 5:09pm #

Dan, you got it right! Berger was next commit!

Who's next? USE YOUR POWER FOR GOOD!!

danbrown7665 on 8 Apr 2013 - 5:29pm #

haha ill say kief

"limitations, like fears are often just illusions"
-Michael Jordan, the greatest athlete of all time

Braxton2Devin on 8 Apr 2013 - 4:22pm #

Now comes Kief

ohhiyo on 13 Apr 2013 - 11:15pm #

my name is slim shady

Buckeyevstheworld on 8 Apr 2013 - 7:45pm #

Found this on VolNation in a Kitt thread:

"Ohio State and Tennessee are my top two," he explained. "Ohio State is in front."

"Everything, the campus, the education, the wide receiver depth, and the coaches," he said. "It's the same stuff with Tennessee (that has allowed them to climb to the No. 2 spot."

"I almost committed up there," he said. "I don't know when I'll make a decision yet but it may be sooner than expected."

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-recruiting/158093-14-ga-wr...

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

buckeyeguy0615 on 8 Apr 2013 - 7:47pm #

Sooner than expected. I like it. I hope he can get here again the summer

Buckeyes125 on 8 Apr 2013 - 9:03pm #

I'm going with Kief because I can't see anyone else committing right now.

Braxton2Devin on 13 Apr 2013 - 10:36pm #

Are we on commit watch? I'm thinkin Kief.

tdible2132 on 13 Apr 2013 - 11:28pm #

Alex said today that we are most likely not on commit watch and while he doesn't see it happening, Kief is the only potential player to watch. He still highly doubt a commitment happens from Kief or anyone else this weekend. Just thought I'd pass that along to everyone.

Braxton2Devin on 14 Apr 2013 - 12:35am #

Thanks

tdible2132 on 21 Apr 2013 - 10:32am #

Who's next? I think it could be Booker for some reason. His dad said he should take his time and make sure he's completely sold on a school, and I'm wondering if his Notre Dame visit this weekend is to see if he has serious interest in them or if OSU is for sure where his heart is. I get the feeling he's down to us and ND and a commitment could be coming soon. The other Im thinking is Jamarco Jones since he's supposed to decide in May potentially. Still not 100% confident in us getting him though.

SpoonerBuck33 on 21 Apr 2013 - 11:15am #

Chase Winovich

otrain2416 on 21 Apr 2013 - 11:17am #

Kief or Kitt

tdible2132 on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:11pm #

I just can't see Winovich in this class so soon. If we still need a LB late in the cycle then I'd expect he might be the guy but I can't see it happening this soon. I could be wrong though.

Poison nuts on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:16pm #

Booker or Kief. I think another Ohio kid is up next.

The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.

Bj Mullens over... on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:22pm #

Booker, Kief or Winovich..... I think Winovich could commit now if he wanted, don't see the staff offering him all of a sudden unless they would accept that commitment.

Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens

GeneStarwind Mod on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:24pm #

Chase Winovich is next up, he should be committing within the next couple of weeks between Ohio State & Michigan, vibes are Ohio State though with all the analysts.

Derek Kief & Dante Booker may be awhile in their commitment, ultimately I think they end up Buckeyes unless something happens.

tdible2132 on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:31pm #

So I'm assuming the staff definitely sees Booker at DE then?

GeneStarwind Mod on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:34pm #

He's a good candidate for the LEO position

Bj Mullens over... on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:34pm #

Also, Austin Roberts is one to look at too.... It seems like he grew a lot and is taller than 6'3" now so staff may see him as our TE in this class. I think he wanted to decide sometime soon and I think a lot of analyst have him high on osu.

Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens

GeneStarwind Mod on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:35pm #

Roberts wants to decide in May, late May. He even said he may return for a visit to Ohio State before his decision. All the analysts like him to Ohio State as well. He'll be after Chase, assuming everything goes as planned.

Bucks43201 on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:41pm #

I'll go with OT Jamarco Jones

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

tdible2132 on 21 Apr 2013 - 12:48pm #

I guess with Winovich I'm just not that impressed with his tape, offer sheet, or ranking on any of the sites. I definitely trust the staffs evaluation over mine though. I think it's safe to say that this years class just isn't quite going to live up to the hype, though it will be a very solid class. Many thought it would end up top 3 in the nation and likely top last years class but it's pretty clear that probably wont happen now. Not that not being better than last years class (arguably the best class ever at OSU) is a bad thing though. It doesn't help either that it's a down year for prospects in Ohio. This class is going to provide solid depth for the future though and should be a really good class when we look back on it in a few years. It's still so early and with the way Urban closes we may end up closing with only top notch guys after laying the groundwork. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Hayze on 21 Apr 2013 - 2:01pm #

I always chuckle when reading these type of posts.

I'm not saying our class will be top 3 when its all said in done, but you cannot say "it's safe to say it won't live up to the expectations".

You can say the guys we thought we would get we won't get if you want, but as far as quality of class goes, we'll only know in February. Many things change, from interest of players not necessarily on our radar, no rankings and perceptions of players already committed.

Damon Webb is lighting it up. Rivals has even talked about making him a five star. Sam Hubbard could see a major boost once recruiting sites actually focus on him.

Who thought we would land Trey Johnson or James Clark at this point last year? Just wait an see, but I have no doubt our class this year will be exceptional.

lippertini on 22 Apr 2013 - 12:46pm #

Agree with everything you say, and I'll add that we REALLY won't know how good this class was until 5-6 years down the road. I hope we all know by now the list of the all-time-great OSU three star recruits:

AJ Hawk, Troy Smith, Chekwa, Sanzenbacher, Robiskie, Hartline, Gamble, Laurinaitis, Malcolm Jenkins, Santonio Holmes. Even Hankins, Roby & Simon were three stars at least at one point.

So my point is, there's something to be said for trusting the staff's internal evals over online rankings. Now if we strike out on all our big targets, including the late bloomers we inevitably don't even know about yet, because they're going to blow up this coming fall, then we can be a little disappointed in the recruiting haul. But until then, I'm still optimistic for another banner class.

Plus, I'd rather have Urban Meyer and this staff coaching up the 7th best class than just about anyone else coaching the top class.

tdible2132 on 21 Apr 2013 - 2:29pm #

I think you're just misinterpreting my post because in no way am I being negative there. I know the type of posts you're talking about and that isn't the type. I never said it won't happen, but that it's not looking as likely this year for it to be a ridiculous class rankings wise. I'm not the least bit disappointed, but rather acknowledging that Ohio prospects aren't as highly regarded this year as they usually are and that with limited space in this class a top 3 class looks unlikely. Certainly not totally out of question though. I'm just being a realist. After last years class I really don't care what this years class ends up "ranked" because I'm so hyped about the future regardless and I know that this years class is going to Fill needs and be exactly what we need going forward regardless of rankings. Am I busting through walls about Winovich? Certainly not. He certainly has the upside though but is going to be a bit of a project. I think we'd be kidding ourselves if we thought it was going to end up the unreal class that was possible as far as getting a bunch of 5 stars type guys. I'm certainly not complaining or upset by this start, I'm actually quite happy with it and as I pointed out there is still a long way to go so I'm interested to see how it all plays out. Just because we are likely going to have more 3 stars in this class than the last definitely doesn't mean they won't end up being just as good college players or that this class is going to be a disappointment. I'm just making observations and bringing them up to start conversation. So hopefully that will clear up your assessment on my previous post.

lljjgg on 21 Apr 2013 - 2:51pm #

Tom Luginbill commented on this in an ESPN Recruiting chat the other day.

He said that it's obvious to him that Meyer isn't quite as concerned with skill talent this year, but that instead there's a blue-collar workman-like quality that Meyer is giving a higher premium this year. What that equates to is less highly-ranked recruits, but a core type of player that Meyer is looking bolster the roster with. Dylan Thompson is a good example of this: as blue-collar as it gets, very hard-worker, not flashy but has a lot of John Simon in him. Even perhaps an AJ Hawk type who's going to come in without a lot of pub, but who'll outwork almost everyone else on the roster. Thompson said in an interview awhile ago that he went to ND's camp a couple of years ago, and he was stick thin, did terribly. Since then he added around 100 lbs, it solid muscle, and ND, Michigan, etc. were drooling over him before OSU got the commitment. He fits the "type" Luginbill says that Meyer is looking for in this class.

So as always, Luginbill believes there's a method to Meyer's "madness." We just have to believe in the path haha.

Bucks43201 on 21 Apr 2013 - 2:55pm #

I'm not big on ESPN's recruiting, overall; but I have a lot of respect for Luginbill. I think he does a pretty solid job.

"You win with people." - Woody Hayes

corveyer on 21 Apr 2013 - 4:14pm #

I agree on both points. I think that this years ESPN 150 (at least so far) is pretty poor. I didn't even recognize some of the names on the list and I waste a lot more time than I should looking through the lists on the other ranking sites, so I am generally pretty familiar with most guys. I think the real problem is Recruiting Nation is pretty small when compared to the other big sites, 247 in particular. I think the smaller staff effects the quality of the rankings, just too many prospects too little time to fully evaluate them all.

I actually mentioned to a friend who also follows recruiting that it would be a good idea for ESPN to partner with one of the other sites, or even buy an existing one (its not like ESPN (owned by Disney) doesn't have the cash).

tdible2132 on 21 Apr 2013 - 4:22pm #

With Winovich apparently visiting this weekend, I'm definitely going to go with Chase Winovich as the next commitment.

Hayesedandconfused on 22 Apr 2013 - 12:22pm #

Mr. Knox come on down

buckeyestu on 22 Apr 2013 - 12:58pm #

demetrius knox.

tdible2132 on 5 May 2013 - 1:24pm #

I am so ready for a Gray Box! It's been a rough stretch lately, and I'm ready for things to get rolling again over the summer. I can't imagine we go much longer without a commitment, and I'm guessing we'll see Chase Winovich commit here in the next couple of weeks.

Buckabroad on 5 May 2013 - 4:43pm #

Winovich is set to visit TTUN on May 10. If he does not commit to them shortly thereafter, I think he will be the next commit for the good guys, probably in the 2nd half of May.

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

buckguyfan1 on 5 May 2013 - 5:03pm #

Anticipation...

~Naples Buckeye - "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton, Jr.

tdible2132 on 5 May 2013 - 5:03pm #

Yeah agreed. I think Kyron Watson will end up at Michigan, and Winovich will end up at OSU. Watson is the higher rated guy, but it seems as if the Michigan coaches would prefer Winovich. Just goes to show rankings aren't all that. Heck ESPN has Watson in their 150. A bunch of morons at ESPN recruiting I swear. It's a clown show! They pick guys out of a hat and decide ok that's where we'll rank this guy.

buck-I.8 on 5 May 2013 - 5:34pm #

That's a strong statement when we have no idea how good any of these guys will be yet. Ends up just sounding like sour grapes because they didn't rank our guys as high as some think they should be ranked.

brandonbauer87 on 5 May 2013 - 5:36pm #

Very well said. It's best to take all ratings with a grain of salt and get behind our guys.

tdible2132 on 5 May 2013 - 7:10pm #

My point was just that ESPN is pretty pathetic as they have Watson rated much higher than Winovich and our staff as well as Michigans staff would like to have Winovich above Watson. Just my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. Winovich isn't even our guy yet so it has nothing to do with sour grapes. Just ESPN's lack of use of their vast resources, and to me there is really no excuse for it.

buck-I.8 on 5 May 2013 - 7:14pm #

By all means, use your crystal ball to tell us how every recruit will end up at the next level. Maybe Winovich is better than Watson, maybe not. Maybe Raekwon McMillian never touches the field, why disparage the people that know more about scouting than you or me before any proof even exists?

Transitively, since Dylan Thompson is rated the highest on ESPN, does that mean he isn't actually worth of a 4th star, just because only ESPN gave it to him? Let's put things in perspective.

MN Buckeye on 5 May 2013 - 8:08pm #

+1 for using 'transitively'

tdible2132 on 5 May 2013 - 8:09pm #

No point in reasoning with the unreasonable, but your missing my point. It doesn't matter though, as this is a silly thing to bicker about and I'm not about to waste my time. Your just on a different page and that's fine but let's just move on.

buck-I.8 on 5 May 2013 - 9:16pm #

you're* x 2

tdible2132 on 5 May 2013 - 9:30pm #

This isn't exactly an english paper my man. I write enough papers, no need to worry about that kind of stuff on here.

SonOfBuckeye on 5 May 2013 - 9:14pm #

why disparage the people that know more about scouting than you

I read tdible to be saying that OSU and Michigan coaching staffs presumptively have more expertise than the folks passing out stars at ESPN. He doesn't claim to possess any special scouting insight. If the pros and the infotainers disagree about Winovich vs. Watson, it's probably safe to bet on the pros.

"It's a clown show! They pick guys out of a hat," is comically overstated, but allowances should be made for grey box withdrawal anxiety disorder.

I clicked on it... I regretted it immediately...

tdible2132 on 5 May 2013 - 9:25pm #

Thank you! Lol exactly. I was just having a little bit of fun with the clown show part, but I trust who coaching staffs want more way over ESPN rankings. The difference in rankings between recruits by ESPN is like choosing from a hat. The staffs on the other hand zero in on guys and are far more accurate IMO.

BuckeyeInBadgerLand on 5 May 2013 - 6:50pm #

Anybody else feel a sense of pride in having a coaching staff not only able to spot underrated talent, but also maximize it? As an example, Boise State has had great success with mostly two and three-star guys while Florida state and, recently, Texas just cannot seem to capitalize on plenty of four and five-star guys. I think it says a lot about UFM that he can find and harness talent. Ratings be damned. If UFM gives you an offer, that should be all the rating you need.