Saw that the Defensive coach might be goin pro for Bama...didnt know if any one had anything for his recruitment!
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I know he'll be announcing Feb 6th at 9am.
I'm drunk and I really just want Vonn to just show up at my door and give me a hug. I'm seriously going to be bummed out if we don't get him. He's really good, you guys.
Is that you, Mr. Waugh?
I've been looking all day for something but can't find diddly
And Mr Waugh can't find anyone to diddle...
He and his brother where at Basketball game earlier and on Bama football field later on.
Seats werent that good at the game fwiw.
Porbably at Alabama looking for a sweet college party to attend.
Need updates! If I don't hear some Tweets from his brother or someone else, I won't what WHAT to woryr about or misinterpret!
In all seriousness, I am curious too how his Bama visit is going. I'm sure it's going fine and we'll just have to wait for his decision.
Per footballscoop.com, Kirby Smart is STAYING at Alabama. Vonn Bell is all Alabama guys time to give it up.
im glad urban doesn't give up as quickly as some of our fans
It's funny you say this....have you happen to notice the slew of new offers? Do you think that's just because Gibson chose WVU or also bc the staff are already preparing for Bell to stay south???? I'll let you decide what you think Urban and Co. are doing...;-) I'm like everyone I'd assume and would love to see Bell in this class. I'm just not so sure that's what is going to happen IMHO.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
all he was saying is that Urban is still recruiting Bell until the end. Instead of just saying "oh well, looks like he is leaning towards Alabama...guess we should just move on". I agree he is throwing all these new offers out because he must get a not so confident feeling, but that certainly doesn't mean he is no longer recruiting Bell as hard as he can.
It's a matter of have some manner of control over the situation.
Fans: Recruit you really want may be leaning towards another school, since you have no influence what so ever in his decision you protect yourself from dissapointment by lowering your expectations.
Urban: Recruit you really want may be leaning towards another school, since you are one of the primary factors in his decision you work your butt off to try and pull him in the other direction knowing you did all that you could.
Our honor defend we will fight to the end for Ohio..
He is at Sabans house now per brother
Apparently checking out Mrs. Saban's Mercedes (also per brother). So on this visit he:
1) Attended a Bama / A&M basketball game
2) Walked on the field at Bryant-Denny stadium
3) Saw a Bama championship parade
4) Tried on a Bama uniform
5) Went over to Coach Saban's house for lunch
That's a masterwork of excellent timing + recruiting, you have to give it to Saban. That's the sort of experience you pay $100k for in a charity auction.
I can see 2-5 as good recruiting tools but not a Bama/aTm basketball game.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
That was my initial reaction as well, but I included it because even terrible games often have a fun atmosphere. Also a good chance to meet and interact with regular students.
Good points.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
I scored a copy of the lunch menu, which included Deer Antler Spray for dessert.
Really odd that Vonn's big brother was a bit "high roadish" on his tweets about the Alabama visit. Not sure what to make of it, but the Alabama visit tweets were vastly different in tone (more bland) than the OSU visit tweets.
Anyone else notice that? I wonder if he was told to tone it down or if there was another reason. The differences just seemed to stand out to me but I don't know why.
I agree, there were much fewer tweets to begin with and just more matter of fact. Until he just said talking to Saban in his office made him want to suit up. Ah who the hell can tell anymore?
Yes. Matter of fact is a good phrase to decribe the tone. But the matter of fact tone seemed to be on purpose which makes me wonder...lol.
I couldn't help but notice one thing on Twitter
Von Bell in Bama gear: 1 retweet, 3 favorites.
Von Bell in OSU gear: 70 retweets, 42 favorites.
Easy to see where he's more wanted. Maybe that should be a factor
It's 5 o'clock somewhere, & Michigan still sucks
Gotta love twiter. keeps the mind nimble...lol.
Or easy to see the proliferation of technology with Buckeye fans vs Bama fans?
If they don't have access to technology, then we beat Alabama in the academics department for sure. lol
It's 5 o'clock somewhere, & Michigan still sucks
To be fair, most Bama fans probably don't have electricity yet.
I LOL'd....
Haha, that made me think of this...the correlations are spot on...
http://www.noob.us/humor/family-guy-thomas-edison/
I am preparing myself for a Bama committment... Really want the kid but not holding my breath...
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I'm with u Katz. Trying to prep myself to not be too upset, but would be stoked if he joins come NLOID!!!
If we don't land Bell, I hope we flip the Robinson twins. It would fill 2 roles. Could land a WR and S if we got those kids.
I hope Twitter has something to do with it....then we may land him???
Wow...anyhow...if he chooses OSU...he chooses us. I'm still going with Bama....bc of 2-5 of LLJJGG was spot on besides the BBall game. It's going to be a tough row to hoe to win Vonn's services...I knew this was going to happen. Saban's just as good if not better than Urban for now bc of what he's built at Bama in the last 8 years. Hate him and DV me...but truth is truth. I'm about 70% bama 30% us. We'll see I hope he comes to the good guys....but I'm not feeling too good about it.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
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I agree with you, and like you I'm trying not to be pessimistic. But I've felt he was all Bama since 1) he took multiple unofficial visits to Bama during the season and 2) came back from his OSU visit uncommitted. It's not that he HAD to commit on his visit or would have been all that willing to, but the fact that Bama was thought to lead all along and he was returning from his OSU visit to an in-house with Saban and a visit to Bama that weekend? To me that's game, set, match.
I would LOVE to be wrong, but I just don't see the smoke to think there's any fire and he's going to shock us by choosing OSU. I felt the same way about Stefon Diggs last year--there was really no reason to think he was leaning OSU at the end, but I just kind of bought in because I wanted to believe it lol. At the end of the day, it seemed like his list was 1) Maryland 2) UF 3) OSU. I think Bell's is 1) Bama 2) OSU 3) Tenn and has been for a long time. Just my 2 cents.
I think he's all Bama. I hope I'm wrong but I just think with as many visits as he had to Bama throughout the season (yeah, I know it's closer to his home) that he's just sold there. He even said in an interview (before he OVs were scheduled): "...and he's (saban) going to coach me..."
I very much hope I am wrong.
I was looking at Alabama's 247 site today and they mention 5* Safety Tony Conner visited a week ago. It says Ole Miss is the leader for him right now but I wonder how his recruitment might affect Bell. I know Alabama has no problem signing both of them but I would be interested to see if Alabama could get Conner if it would hurt their chances with Bell.
I think Vonn Bell will be a Buckeye. I have no facts or information to back this up. Just my guess.
right now we can not compete with Bama for a 5* recruite, maybe after a national championship in 2014 we can...but not this year....
Come on dude. There are several OSU commits with Bama offers.
Mr. Bosa was quoted a couple months ago saying Bama was still calling him.
After a quick look:
Bosa
Hill
Apple
Burrows
Lisle
Johnson
all have Bama offers.
^^^^This is true and the reason why if we miss on Bell...it's really not that big of a deal. Many (even myself) have said it would be a big deal for OSU to land Bell. However, Burrows, Apple, Lee, Thompson, with possibly Worley and Conley or Jacobs could all play DB. Some may play WR or see offense in some way shape or form (or another position on defense). Either way...we'll be ok.
Personally...I'm saying Bell goes to Bama that way if he comes...then it will be icing on an already stellar DB/possible LB or WR recruiting cake...IMO of course.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
The question is how many bama recruits have OSU offers...
I hope Bell realizes he is just another prospect to bama and is not currently 'the guy' like he is at OSU.
I may be misinterpreting, but your comment makes it seem like Alabama is light years ahead of us on the recruiting front. I'd stack Urban and his staff up against anyone in the country. Our classes over the past 5 - 10 years have been just as highly touted as Alabama's. We just came off of an undefeated season and are only a couple seasons removed from being 12-1 Sugar Bowl Champions (Had it not been for that fateful night in Madison, we'd have been playing bama in the MNC game).
I'd say Terrelle Pryor or Beanie Wells were 'The Guy' during their recruitment. This kids a really really good highschool safety and would be an awesome get to piece together a great class but I think we're putting to much stock in him. In this year's class alone, I'd put Bosa, Jalin, and Mike Mitchell at equal to or greater value than this kid.
Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.
In case you didn't notice, I inserted the word 'currently' to mean 'at this time'. I didn't mean to infer the whole year. They are recruiting two other 5*s and other 4*s. Up until today, Bell was a 4* and is the no. 1 priority on our list.
Gotcha... that makes more sense to me now. The biggest challenge is getting him out of the south.
Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.
^^^^
Nailed it!
QuadrupleZ
To me, this would be the most important selling point.
Bell isn't even Alabama's #1 target at safety
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"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
I like your optimism.
Looking at the alabama depth chart I don't think he will see the field....with that being said if he looks at OSU depth he will see it is calling his name...vonn will be a buckeye..
Kizzle
Does anyone know if Urban has already made an in-home visit with Bell, or does he have one left? I know Everett Withers does, but if there's one guy I want as a closer, it's Urban.
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They mention it below but I figured I'd at least answer your question in case you didn't see it...Urban used him home visit when he went down and watched Vonn's game and met up with him afterwards. But we do have Wither's visit remaining so that will be key at this point if all things are even as he indicates they are.
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Not sure about that but mark givler of rivals said Vonn told him this morning that he still has no leader, everyone is even at this point. So that last in home visit could be huge! Get em boys!
https://twitter.com/marcgivlerbg/status/293743249879867392
I don't believe the staff has an in-home left
I think Withers has an in home left. Urban already used his.
If it truly was "dead-even", then you gotta think that favors TENNESSEE, since the Vols have been his dream team from the get go. I still think he ends up at 'Bama tho :-/
+1, was thinking the same. I also am concerned he ends up at Alabama unfortunately.
Saw on Twitter that Meyer will be contacting Vonn's brother today. It is great to see coach exhausting all possible angles to land this kid. He certainly believes that the Buckeyes still have a chance to land Bell's services.
The great thing about Urban and recruiting is he is relentless. He never lets up and never quits. Whereas many of us have already been resigned to the "Bell is going to Bama" (myself included), Urban doesn't see it that way. He will push until Bell says not to push any longer, that he's made a decision.
What an awesome coach to have! With recruiting and the game itself, you will win some and lose some. If Bell goes to Bama, so be it, it's not because Urban didn't give it his all and I'd rather have "his all" than any other coaches' in the country. That's a FACT. There will be many more recruiting battles to be won rest assured.
I'm sticking with Bell to Bama but I won't count OSU/Urban out until NSD and Bell announces/signs for the Tide.
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i just don't get why everone believes Alabama is leading. He didn't commit on his visit so it seems like everyone lost hope. I like Urbans chances on getting this kid.
Anything goes and I will still add that with Urban, never out of the game until the end. Urban is known for the late additions and pull-ins. He ripped Sharriff Floyd from OSU a few years ago, last year pulled a couple late gets with Dodson and Reeves.
and if he doesn't come, I won't say we don't need him, but not like the cupboard is empty either. Jayme Thompson, Lee and Burrows can be the future at Safety while Barnett, Bryant and Pitt Brown are the present. Still have Tyvis Powell who I am still very high on. The kid is a lanky 6'3'' Safety who can fly. He was getting some good experience early last year till a slight injury set him back and then OSU was in the middle of its conference schedule, so of course he didn't get any play. but there is some solid talent that Bell can add to.
Plus the way Urban recruits athletes that can fill a variety of roles, I think Bell would just be a cherry on top more than a savior of need!
Matters what you are going after. Do you want to win 10-11 games, sure he is not necessary or the savior. Do you want to compete for a national title? Bell still not the savior, but rather we need several kids of his caliber to committ.
I think Bell not committing to Alabama after his visit there says two things...
1. Not committing to us after our visit means NOTHING and
2. He may not be as big a Bama lean as alot of people think.
+1 Exactly
I hope you're right. I think he is waiting until NLOI day. He may be a silent verbal to someone too but who knows lol
Vonn bell,Dontre Wilson ,James Clark,Olineman,
Kizzle
I'm on the same boat in terms of who I hope commits, but 26 is getting pretty tight in terms of space. It may only be 3 of those 4.
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Recruiting the family too, always a smart move.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
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Damn Meyer moves fast and covers all the bases. You don't just recruit the player, you recruit the family.
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I know! Right? You have to wonder how this happens....when a family shows up on campus for the official does Urban demand everyone's cell phone number/e-mail address/twitter handle and make them accept his friend request on facebook before they're allowed to proceed with the OV? Haha!
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
Maybe I don't know much about recruiting, but seeing this kid play, I'd be totally fine if he was the only recruit we pulled in from here on out this year. Obviously wouldn't hurt to get some others but either way, I'm excited for feb 6. Make the right choice Vonn. Go bucks.
Some upvotes would be much appreciated. gotta get to 50 so i can upvote everyone else.
A word of advice for you sir. Don't ask for upvotes, it usually ends badly! Welcome to 11W!
thank you for the advice good sir. I actually thought about that but im a dummy sooo...
A second word of advice, you need to get to 100 to start upvoting
Comments from his visit this weekend:
“It was a good weekend in Knoxville,” Bell said. “Opened a lot of eyes and [made] more discussion points … Just being around Coach [Butch] Jones and all the coaching staff you feel positive energy. Walking in [Thompson-Boling] arena you feel the fan love and the excitement there looking forward to the next season and see what Coach Jones brings.”
Note: Hyperlink is giving me some difficulties, but here's the addy for the full write-up:
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/28/vonn-bell-enjoys-his-visit-ut/
Short of saying Tennessee is the worst place he has ever been this comment seems encouraging to me.
I don't think it will happen but if Bell and Johnson both go to UT instead of OSU, I will be stunned! Bell I can see but Johnson would just be ridiculous to lose out to them.
Just really surprises me that these kids wouldn't want to play for Urban and OSU when the positions really could use them. I would understand if they went somewhere else because OSU has locked up starters for a couple years, but they are both needed alot.
I was actually looking into the Poggi visit to Bama and I came across this...
http://alabama.247sports.com/Board/116/-BOL-Recruiting-Nuggets-16235708/1
I don't have a subscription so I can't see all the story or comments but the ones I do see are "sucks on Bell" and "Yeah really wanted Bell. May still get him but this speaks volumes about how our staff feels about Eddie Jackson."
So things may be trending up towards OSU or Tenn. If anyone has some more insight about this, do share with BuckeyeNation!
Supposedly Andrew Bone (recruiting analyst for Tidesports.com, Bama writer for Rivals) said yesterday that he doesn't predict Bell to be in Bama's class any longer, and that he believes TENN will win out. I haven't seen his post/article on it specifically, but it is a rumor that has a lot of legs. Bell keeps saying that they're all even, so there IS an actual possibility that no one leads and he's still making his decision (despite many of us thinking it was Bama for quite awhile). If that's the case, I like our chances with Withers still having an in-home visit!
I agree... I believe Withers could seal the deal for Bell with that final in-home. I think after this weekend it is going to be down to OSU and UT. I think we are about even, but Butch Jones and his staff have picked up some momentum on the recruiting trail. He is bringing in a lot of alums and really selling the tradition of UT football. Plus, the brand new $42 million dollar facility doesn't hurt.
Does UT or BAMA have any in-home visit left after Withers, or does he have the final crack at Vonn? Be nice if we were the last ones to get in his ear before signing day.
I'm not sure... I hope we are the last team to visit tho.
I heard somewhere that Butch Jones of TENN still has a visit left, can't speak to the validity of that. Nick Saban's used his in-home with Vonn already (day after Vonn's OSU official visit), Urban Meyer's used his, not sure whether any other members of Bama's staff have a visit left.
I think he visited Bell right after the Bama OV
This recruiting stuff is getting out of hand. People need to just have patience until the recruits actually make their decisions.
I agree... I'm just ready for NSD so I can't sit in front of a TV and watch the fax machine at OSU. ESPN is planting a reporter at OSU to watch the papers come in this year. Will be 12 reporters across the country doing the same thing.
This is an instant gratification world, my friend; like it or not.
Yes but there isn't any gratification. It's all just rampant, endless speculation derived from the tiniest shreds of evidence.
Being "in the know" is gratification for some, whether it's BS or not.
Perfectly fair point. I'm not really an NFL fan these days, so following recruiting during the last few weeks of January gives me my last real taste of anything football-related until around August! That's where most of my recruiting interest comes from, anyway (I don't follow it much until January each year, but this month is fun for me).
So there's this. I always had the Vols pegged as a longshot. I'm gonna guess this anonymous coach is none other than Brady Hoke.
12-OH
im not going to trust a guy who can't even spell sorbet right
btw...mmmm...sorbet
I'd take this with a grain of salt. He's in Vols country. We'll see come NSD. However, if Bell wants to play for 4th in a conference division instead of NCs...then so be it. I'd rather him go to Tenn then Bama.
This kind of stuff, many times, seems to go the opposite direction of the no-name insider info. Vonn can go to the Vols and be a star on his own in the defensive backfield or come to OSU and work with multiple playmakers in the OSU backfield while chasing national championships. Hope he can identify the difference. And if his heart says he wants to be a Vol then so be it, good luck to him.
This guy is a Tennessee recruiting insider. His bias shows.
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I seem to recall another ones these guys and his was another coach not in it with Quick says he's all Buckeyes or something to that effect.
I really want Vonn Bell to be a Buckeye, but I'm kind of over his recruitment... Not a negative thing, not a positive thing. Just ready for NSD.
"According to Skeeter, Vonn Bell has informed UT coaches he will be a Vol." Not sure exactly how to post a tweet, but this is a tweet from a Vols recruiting writer. Skeeter is a member who works in the UT athletic department. I live in TN and twitter is blowing up around here with all kinds of rumors swirling from Knoxville. Not sure exactly of how credible the source is but just thought I would pass it along. Have been to watch Vonn play a couple of times this year, and really hope this is wrong.
If Bell goes to UT I hope we use his scholly for another WR.
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I'm not into moral victories, but if it's true that he's TENN, I'm just pleased he's not going to Bama. Bama we could very well play in a Nat'l Championship game, and they have enough depth already as it is. TENN on the other hand we'll likely never see in a BCS game.
I would rather lose him to UT than Bama.
On another note, is Kirby Smart just waiting for Saban to leave? That guy could have just about any open job.
There is really a guy named Skeeter? That sounds like a joke but it is the south. Quick, someone find Bubba and see if he has the same inside info.
Good job stereotyping... My name is Kyle and I live in the south. I wear tennis shoes, have all my teeth, and have an advanced degree.
Back to the topic tho... When is Everett Withes in-home visit? There is a lot of buzz here in TN about Bell going to UT... Of course there was a lot of buzz around Jon Gruden and that turned out to be false too. Anybody have the date on that visit? It will be our last shot to seal the deal on Bell.
My point wasn't to stereotype. The guy's name is Skeeter. That seems unbelievable, like something made up because it is the south.
Also, Bubba and Skeeter are nicknames associated with the South - FACT. That is to say nothing about the education level of the people there or their dental hygene. Just like a guy named Colt, or Tex is probably from Texas and a girl named Lennay is probably from an imagination.
You sold me when you got to Lennay, hahaha
I think all of this Withers in home talk is false. Withers was with Urb at Von's state title game.
I don't see how that doesn't count as his visit.
unless he went in the house its not an in home visit.... If all he did was watch a game that means nothing by the rules... i believe usualyy in these instances the coach will make it a point to say hi and congrats on teh game etc... but thats it... lets teh kid know he was there as it were.
"Statistics always remind me of a fellow who drowned in a river where the average depth was only three feet." - Coach Woody Hayes
If that is the case, urb hasn't had an in home either.....
Isn't she dating Tiger now? Sorry, wrong Vonn.
FWIW (and please take it with a...giant...grain of salt), Mike Farrell believes Vonn will be a Buckeye come NSD. Direct quote from a Rivals recruiting articles dated 1/30 (today): "...but Vonn Bell is the toughest one to figure. I said it would be Alabama then but now it appears to be a battle between Ohio State and Tennessee. There is a lot of smoke about a silent Tennessee commitment and I know Bell's parents loved Knoxville, but a reliable source told me that the Buckeyes still have the edge despite the excellent visit to the Vols. I'm going to say Ohio State, but not with a ton of confidence."
Link: http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1466101
In the same article he also says he thinks Wilson will stick with Oregon.
NSD can't get here soon enough...
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Looks like Withers will visit tomorrow. Shouldn't urb be able to go then too? Lol
I think Urban has already used his in-home visit with Bell... Withers will be fine to seal the deal. Bell's parents love Withers and really got attached to him on Vonn's OV to Columbus. I like the fact that we will be the last program in his livingroom before NSD.
I think that's about as fair of an assessment that anyone could come up with... Good job ChromeDomeBuck
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Well we will know soon enough what a day the Sixth will be not only is it NSD it is also the day i get my yearly bonus from work, probably have to buy some 11w gear to treat myself. Vonn i hope committs but if he doesnt just have to roll with what we got and get it done on the practice field and film room. No matter the star behind your recruiting just work hard and bust ass.
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I sometimes wonder if players like James Quick and Vonn Bell even take a look to see what kind of recruits teams like Louiville and UT have committed. On most recruiting networks both teams are nowhere near the top 25.
Tony Parker did that when deciding UCLA over Ohio State, look how that turned out.
Ya, I'm sure neither of them have any idea what they are getting into and just blindly decided to go to those schools with zero thought.
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/pages/video?videoid=580124c3-9dd7-4c5a-b12...
A link that has an interview with Vonn from this week basically tells us what we already know. But I know how we all are looking for something on this recruit.
I like him, very articulate, most kids would not perform that well with a camera in their face for an interview... very poised and good eye contact without stumbling or ummming his way through it.
As Tony Stark said... want em... gotta have em!
While I think the reporters put OSU's mention 3rd in the questioning, I think his best comments were for OSU, and I think it will be a huge get on NSD over Bama... and will really help us recruit in the South (Even more than we already are) and be a factor for major recruits.
Love the fact we are last to see him!
"Statistics always remind me of a fellow who drowned in a river where the average depth was only three feet." - Coach Woody Hayes
Have to agree with this. I like his poise and communication skills in front of the camera. Speaks to a maturity level most kids this age don't have. Like him more than ever.
I think it's a good sign that he and his family love Coach Withers and that one of the most important things to him is the relationship aspect. Along with that he is gonna sit down with his family and weigh the pros and cons. OSU has a lot of positives, IMO, for him and I hope he picks OSU, obviously. Don't wanna get my hopes up but I think he picks us.
When asked what will separate the 3 power programs, Bell said: "the people" and "how I fit into the program"
.....
I like these comments and I think it helps tOSU. He's got a great relationship with Meyer & co. Tennessee is late to the party in terms of established coaching staff. Saban could flirt with the NFL at anytime...Meyer looks to have the most stability. Also, he would fit great into tOSU with regards to early playing time and Withers' defensive schemes. Come up to C-bus, Vonn! You'll be a fan favorite from Day 1. @ 'Bama you'll be just another guy. @ Tennessee - yes, you'll be a huge get, but let's be honest -- they're at least a few years away from competing for a conference division title, let alone anything more. Ohio State and Von Bell seem like the perfect fit for each other.
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I agree with your thoughts, but you make OSU sound like they are inferior to Alabama when you say he will just be another guy, we have a top five recruiting class too, we expect nothing less than a national championship every year, he'll have to work his ass off here too if he wants to play with the best, or "he'll just be another guy"! Don't sell us short, go Bucks!
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This was interesting...
Some info:
"Ohio State co-defensive coordinator Everett Withers was at Ridgeland on Thursday morning and left campus to meet with Bell’s father, Vincent, at his job.
Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart and new defensive backs coach Greg Brown were expected on campus to meet with Bell on Thursday afternoon."
And are we really going in this direction...
"Be the first to know where Vonn Bell signs. Text 'news' to 423-706 to get an urgent alert when the news breaks."
Source: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/31/college-coaches-make-final-push-vonn-bell/
So when does Withers actually get to sit down "in home" exactly? This just says he went to see Vonn's father at his job...
I guess I don't truly comprehend how "in-home" visits actually work
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That last part is really disturbing. Like insanely scary and equally as sad.
It has been a long time since the Chattanooga/North Ga area has had a recruit this highly touted. They're prob going to tag that text alert to advertisements. Yes it is stupid, but there's money to be made somehow.
Alabama telling him he wasn't physical enough to play Safety sounds strange. Slap in the face almost.
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Especially when he was showing he could kill it at the All-Star game.
yeah...I remember him with some big hits in that All-Star game
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Funny coming out of HS people told Mike Doss he was too small and not smart enough to play strong safety......that turned out to be a huge mistake as well
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46958
^ESPN chat with Jared Shanker today, some interesting stuff regarding OSU recruiting if you skim through it. He seems sold that we're not getting Vonn Bell, Dontre Wilson or James Clark.
It'd be nice to land Bell and that way I can tell all these "ya-hoo" recruiting analysts that have said everybody in Vonn's top choices are the favorite to land him at some point or another, OTHER THAN the Buckeyes, to go and shove it up their asses....
Can Signing Day just get here already??? Damn...
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A good friend of mine lives in Knoxville (grew up in NE ohio, transferred for work) and his son attends UT and is in the athletic training program. He said the folks down there are supremely confident that Bell is committing to UT. He said all they talk about is Vonn becoming the next Eric Berry and that the staff sold him hard on being the face of the program and the face of the programs turnaround. He also said that folks are looking at it as a 2 way fight with UT and Alabama and nobody is really concerned with tOSU. I really cannot wait until NSD and i hope that we can pull in Mr Bell and shut all those SEC fans up! I never thought i would say this, but i CANNOT wait until next week!!!
And for the record, yes my buddy is still a die hard Buckeye fan and he said that awful SEC chant is even worse when you have to hear it all weekend long during football season.
I second that.
Something interesting I noticed...Tenn will have 17 returning DBs. While OSU will have 12 with 4 2012 SRs gone and Jamie Wood calling it quits in October (there's some on the 2013 commit list but lets face it...Burrows, Apple and Bell has a nice sound to it doesn't it? As much as I like Lee and possibly Worley at Safety...Bell's pretty damn good). I'm not a math wize but that seems pretty glaringly obvious where he'll get more playing time and possibly right away. I wasn't feeling great about this with Bell but now that I know Bama wants him as a CB and then Tenn pulled a Maryland for Diggs from last year around this very same time. Hopefully Withers was pointing that roster size out one last time to the family to sway his commitment. I just hope these Vol fans/recruiting ppl are wrong with this he's been all Tenn the whole time....
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I agree with what you are saying, but OSU has one of the best DB classes in the country already committed. I am 100% sure that bell knows that as well.
I saw twitter that he's possibly taking another Tenn visit I don't have a link but if anyone does please post it.
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Just got a text saying that Vonn Bell will be back in Knox as an unofficial visitor this weekend. Obviously, would be huge if it happens.
According to the VolNation forums (Tennessee Volunteer fans) that twitter account is unreliable at best, they don't even think it's happening (and they have orange-colored glasses on at all times). So I wouldn't take the twitter account too seriously.
EDIT: Apparently 247's TENN site asked Bell's father and his father said he's not there on an unofficial as far as he's aware of.
Yeah, that place is insane.
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Thanks to everyone for supplying the tweets.
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If you look on UT forums discussing Bell it is like walking through a mine field. Of course they want him badly. They have absolutely no idea what's going on. Many say he will be a Buckeye, while some say he is all UT. They have one wild paranoia filled idea after another about what did, will or might happen. So, Vonn hasn't silent verballed to anyone IMO. OSU has as good a shot as anyone and in fact I think it would be very difficult for him to say no to Urban and what awaits him in Columbus.
"Of course they want him badly. They have absolutely no idea what's going on. Many say he will be a Buckeye, while some say he is all UT. They have one wild paranoia filled idea after another about what did, will or might happen."
I sure am relieved that we don't get that in Buckeye country!!
I actually saw more paranoia with the UT fans than I do with OSU fans, believe it or not! The scenarios they were coming up with were epic and funny. People get fairly strange this time of year.
Haha they are hilarious.
This is one guy from VolNation's list of who TENN will have sign on NSD:
Vonn Bell
EJ Levenberry
Miller
Trey Johnson
Carl Lawson
Jabo Lee
Malik Brown
Shelton Gibson
Tyler Boyd
Josh Dobbs
Little optomistic? Hahah.
@LouGroza: lol no kidding. I read a post on VolNation a bit ago where they called Urban Meyer and Nick Saban "selfish, self-serving a-holes" who are, and I quote, "convincing Vonn not to follow his heart and his lifelong dream."
The extreme element of fandom I do not understand haha. If someone doesn't play in their home state they've been tainted by evil? I doubt even the players themselves take this stuff that seriously!
I said it once, and I'll say it again, Meyer would have looked him right in the eyes and said "Von, we currently sit on the brink of one of the greatest DB classes in recent memory with Apple, Burrows, Conley, and Thompson. I'm looking at you, and I'm seeing the guy who would be the glue holding it all together. You would be the out right leader and captaian of that crew, as you go, they go."
Can you imagine how his chest must have puffed up if Meyer took that approach? How could you say no?
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I heard Bell responded, "That sounds great coach, but you spelled my name wrong."
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I believe Bell is meeting with his family and coaches today to make a decision. Hopefully Urban gets a good phone call this afternoon.
Looks like Vonn will be in Knox again this weekend as a unofficial visitor according to GoVols247
If true then he is all but committed to UT
Agreed. I think he is Tenn Bound.
I think the staff knew this and that's probably why they offered the JUCO OL Nebraska commit. Hopefully we can land Clark and Wilson/Timmons on Wednesday.
Although i do think we sit pretty with wilson and clark, i also think we strike out on both. We are no longer considering timmons. ....That's ok if we strike out though, as long as we can keep current class together (Zeke, johnson especially).
Not true per his dad. They are at home
This
sure seems a lot of stuff coming out of tennessee supporter twitters is just not accurate. the whole corey smith still visiting, multiple accounts of vonn bell being a lock and visiting again. just seems like a very unreliable source
A lot of rumors flying around. I believe he is supposed to inform the coaches today of his decision. It would be contradictory for him to visit UT again when he has said his recruitment ended on Thursday.
He is not there. The UT coaches went to visit Bells coach because they knew they weren't going to get to see him again after Withers visited. He isn't at UT and he is not going to see their coaches in person again before he commits.
The UT fans are just in a panic because they see their program becoming irrelevant. If they can't get a commitment from a talent like Bell who has been a life long Vol fan, then what do they have to look forward too.
Even though Coach Meyer and crew have missed on some targets its amazing to see how many national top level talents have seriously considered tOSU. Their relentless approach to not only finding the best Ohio talent but the best talent from across the country can only pay dividends in the future.
Vonn is that piece of the puzzle just in reach that seems to drive Meyer and hopefully he and his parents will see that winning attitude as the best place for him.
Mike Farrell changes his prediction from Buckeyes to Vols on Vonn Bell.
I just saw that. Hopefully he's wrong. I'd hate for Bell to go to UT and play for a mediocre program for 4 years.
I agree. Just seems like too much smoke to me. Recruiting "insiders" are often wrong, but seems like they're all hearing something that's making them trend Vols lately.
I no longer respect anything Mike Farrell says, until he says Bell is a Buckeye lean again. You here that Mike?!
I'm hearing now that the Vols have a pretty good lead on Ohio State now and that pretty much everyone is on board for Tennessee in his family.
Sources from all three schools as well as others now feel he is Tennessee's to lose. Tennessee did a great job with the mom especially and this appears to be all Vols barring a change of mind at last minute.
The key point here is that the other schools involved, especially Ohio State, are almost conceding he will be a Vol as I have good sources everywhere as you may or may not know.
^Quotes from Mike Farrell/Rivals
I have a hard time believing what you're saying at this point because you said Bama and OSU "are almost conceding he is a Vol". I think we all know Urban doesn't concede anything until the ink hits the paper.
Think you understood, but just in case: I forgot to put the quotation marks in (it won't let me edit it now). All of those comments were from Mike Farrell.
Maybe Von's just doing what Quick did. Make it seem like one team is leading so that when he actually decides he can shock everyone.
Realisitically though, it'd be a shame to lose him to Tennessee. No matter what their fans think, they're a long way away from being relevant again.
No one knows if Quick was just playing with people, if fact all signs point to the fact that he changed his mind at the last minute. You are making accusation of misdeeds that are not fair or backed up by facts.
Probably going to strike out on him. I don't believe, though, that we won't get any other recruits on signing day. Don't much care about Wilson but maybe Clark jumps on board. We'll see I guess.
Stefon Diggs all over again smh... Poor Vonn, Poor Vonn.
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I don't know, I mean Farrel saying his buckeyes was his best guess didn't exactly make me all that confident that Vonn was coming here. I don't think Ohio State ever really led for his services.
U just would think that he'd look at the DBs in our class and want to play with other top tier players like himself. I guess Home is just where his heart is. Sux for him, sux for us.
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this is exactly howit seems to me. I hate to say it because I want him the most right now, but if he goes to UT it may be the biggest mistake he could make.
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Think it is time to accept that osu will not get anyone left on the board. Happy with what we got..disappointed they couldn't pull one of the final three.
Silver lining is they get some wiggle room for 2014
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Where's the optimism? I still have faith
I still think we have a 50/50 shot on James Clark (seems to be trending OSU or FLA, not hearing anything on Clemson). And a 1/3 shot at Dontre Wilson. There's also a shot that Vonn Bell surprises people and picks OSU.
It's never over till they sign the paperwork. Also, not to be an annoyingly glass half full kind of guy, but in my mind if Zeke Elliott signs with OSU on NSD, that's a victory as well.
was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Where's the spirit? Where's the guts?
Germans? Forget it he's rolling
I still believe we are going to land Clark and Bell. Not believing the hype and rumors about Bell to UT.
I agree. In fact JC Shurburtt, the 247 Tennesse recruiting analyst is saying that OSU is gaining momentum with Bell.
I can't wait to see volnation on wednesday if they don't get Bell, Lawson or Lavenberry. That place witll riot.
Everything is speculation until Feb 6th. I think we could prob read our staff tho. Bell is supposed to inform the coaches this weekend. If Urban and the staff go after another recruit Monday or Tuesday then we know we've lost Bell.
I can't wait for NSD, I'm taking off work and buying a 24pk. I'll probably get put in the doghouse by the women...Fuck it.
I have a sign you can show her if you need.
Haha I'll give it a shot
At this point I would predict Bell to UT, Wilson to Oregon, Timmons to UK and a toss up on Clark. Would be a bit disappointing but we still have a great class
We really do have a great class. I hope people focus on the great players we got and not the last minute misses. I can't wait to see Mitchell and Marshall, my two favorite recruits. They will be awesome in Scarlet and Gray.
I'm with Buckeye_In_Sec. Amongst the noise, I think we get Bell and Clark.
I have a good feeling about NSD, but worst is we bank the schollies for next year and we are in on some big name prospects with two in the fold already.
James Quick and Vonn Bell will follow a long list of guys like Stefon Diggs who will go to programs who sold them on them being the one that gets it started and more will follow. When really the programs they go to are irrelevant and always will be. Vonn Bell committing to UT will raise them up from 44 on scout to 41st on scouts team rankings just behind Northwestern. Even with James Quick committed Louisvilles class is ranked at 50 on scout. Kansas and Kentucky have higher ranked classes.
WRs make a very small impact on a game if they don't have a good QB to throw to them. Diggs, Gibson, and any other WR that picked an irrelevant school has made this mistake. TBD if Quick will be part of this group.
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Marc Givler and Kevin Noon of Rivals both predicting Vonn to pick OSU on Wednesday, though they did not make the pick with very much confidence as Givler started his pick by saying "This one could go in any direction."
Source: http://ohiostate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1466438
Also: In case you're wondering, they predicted Dontre Wilson to OSU, Zeke to OSU, Munger to OSU, Trey Johnson to OSU, Clark to UF, Timmons to UK, and Elder to Auburn.
I hope they get this one right too! There seems be a swing towards the bucks in regards to Vonn. Might be telling how much we are really in strong consideration, seeing as how he still hasn't been able to make a decision. I like where we're sitting at this point
getting munger, zeke, trey,and wilson will be sweet. like to have clark or timmons, but this is still going to be an awesome class, if we dont get clark and/or timmons.
FWIW On Rivals, they have a page where they predict where the Rivals250 Recruits will end up. 6/8 are saying UT, 1/8 are saying OSU, 1/8 saying Bama. Not feeling too confident but I am hoping that having the last in-home gives us an unforeseen advantage.
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It says they updated those today, but I don't know if I trust those predictions. Only 2 of those guys are predicting Wilson to OSU right now as well. Plus one guy still has Cameron Hunt predicted to go to UM even though he eliminated them already.
I don't work for Rivals or Scout or 247 or anyone nor am I an insider. But I will say that I will NEVER underestimate Urban Meyer on NSD...
Bell - Buckeye
Wilson - Buckeye
Surprise (so to say)...Elder - Buckeye
Can't wait to see how far off this will probably be.
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here we go a again, I dont know who flips more the kids or the analysts...
Wow ^^^
The way I see it, for Vonn it's a decision where he has his heart & his mind.
His mind says Buckeyes. His heart says Vols.
Given the criteria he, his family, & coaches weighed out - early playing time, playing the safety position (which ruled out Bama), his relationships (which kept tOSU in it with Tenn), then everything else: what kinda players he'll be playing with, what's the current status of the program, which will allow him to win immediately & compete for championships, which path will get him more exposure, & ultimately into the NFL - he KNOWS Ohio State is the best place from him to go.
However, he's a relationships guy, it's hard to defer your childhood/hometown dream of playing for the same school one of your favorite players (he mentions KC's Eric Berry) for a situation that's obviously better & having to let that go, and a lot of hometown folks down to an extent.
At the end of the day, I believe Bell is a Buckeye. Urbz is completing phase two of building this Silver Bullets D - lock-up man to man corners & ball hawk safeties. All these kids have ball skills - and couple them with the new blood coming in on the D line along with Spence, Washington, & Co. in their second year is coming to be something to see!
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I like how everyone is calling them predictions. They aren't predictions if you constantly change it . One day it's OSU, the next day it's UT, the next day it's OSU again, and so on. I understand things change daily with these kids, but let's stop calling them predictions...let's called them guesses from here on out. Predictions are something you stand behind firmly...where as if you're just guessing, you have room for error. I know it's just semantics...I just get irritated seeing someone like Mike Farrell constantly changing his "prediction".
You are correct. They aren't so much as predictions as guesses, however, they may keep changing due to something new they hear or something like that. I don't agree with a lot of their predictions but how the reason them is kinda interesting to me.
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