Timmons just offered

Per Bucknuts:

http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Board/120/Breaking-News-Timmons-Offered--...

Congrats, Waycracken!

avail31678 on 23 Jan 2013 - 12:46pm #

Sweet! I was never overtly for or against Timmons. But he's definitely fast, and he wants (or watned) to be a Buckeye. I am anctious to see what he can do. You never know - if he commits, it could be one of those lightning in a bottle results!

Althouh, this could be indicative of the staff's confidence in our chances with the Oregon players or some other recruits.

Bolt on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:27pm #

This is the kind of guy that could come in with a "prove everyone wrong" chip on his shoulder and work his ass off and be one of those "under the radar" guys that goes from being a 3-star recruit to a stud in college (although to anyone on this site he's not under the radar).

avail31678 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:13pm #

Exactly, just what I was thinking. Also, did I actually spell "anxious" as "anctious?" Long week...

moopdawg on 23 Jan 2013 - 12:49pm #

Regardless of what he decides, I'm really happy for Ryan Timmons. Congrats, kid. And do whatever is best for you.

703Buckeye on 23 Jan 2013 - 12:52pm #

Waycracken just found out...

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

bowthrock on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:17pm #

Winner!

"Lets beat the shit out of Michigan".... Urban. Frank. Meyer.

tennbuckeye19 on 23 Jan 2013 - 12:52pm #

A tweet said he had "no hard feelings" (I assume about taking so long to offer) when he spoke with Coach Meyer.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 12:55pm #

I'm glad this happened... I wonder if he will commit or did the staff wait too long and he's sold on UK?

JasonR on 23 Jan 2013 - 12:55pm #

I'm happy for this kid too. Is there a chance he committed on the spot?

Alex on 23 Jan 2013 - 12:58pm #

let's see if it is a committable offer or not.....how this plays out will certainly tell as the kid wanted to be a Buckeye for a very long time. In my opinion if he's not a Buckeye it's because we didn't have room for him.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:03pm #

Why would the staff give out a non-committable offer this close to NSD?

osu07asu10 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:07pm #

agree

Alex on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:19pm #

Just in case they miss out on their top prospects...why isn't Timmons being pushed to come in this weekend and seal the deal? I think, from my knowledge of the staff, that they are keeping the seat warm in case things don't work out with Wilson/Clark/Smith/etc.....if they wanted Timmons in right now they would push for that

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:21pm #

I think that's pretty petty of the staff to do something like that. I know they have their board and the kids they want, but I don't believe in offering a kid that you won't let commit. I think they could've waited all the way until NSD to offer and the kid still would have become a Buckeye. I trust Urban and the staff, but I don't like this if they gave him a non-committable offer.

AJBor41 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:28pm #

I know it seems callous, but this is a big business. The coaches, I'd imagine, have to treat this like an NFL draft board and put these players in order. I'm sure they have a group of talented players all around, including kids that want nothing more than to play for their favorite school, but have to determine who trumps who in the NSD pecking order.

andyb on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:32pm #

I'm still bitter OSU never offered me to this day!!! 12 years and counting!

lol to be fair, I only received "offers" (pamphlets that came in the mail saying "we have football here you should check us out!") from schools like Otterbein and Slippery Rock. BUT STILL!!! I really wanted to play football for OSU!! haha

BuckinBama on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:23pm #

How do we know they aren't pushing for him to come visit? At this point I'm thinking C.Smith is out because it shouldn't take this long to determine if credits are going to transfer from Juco to OSU, and I think they got in too late w/James Clark as well. Think w/all the coaching retention at Oregon Wilson stays committed there.

kareemabduljacobb on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:46pm #

Why is it such a bad idea to offer someone even if it's a non-committable? I'd rather get the offer out now then to be left scrambling on NSD if we do end up missing out on the players Alex mentioned. It makes sense to me. I never thought he was going to be a Buckeye, but with such limited spots left and a bunch of players on the fringe, it was smart to get the offer out just in case. Plus it could put pressure on others to commit sooner rather than later.

Buckifan4Life on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:01pm #

That doesn't make sense to me. Why would the cat toy with the mouse at this point? I suppose Timmons is so enamoured with OSU that he is fine with it possibly. Hmmmm...

Norwalk on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:12pm #

This is the 1st year I've heard the term "committable offer" when discussing Ohio State recruiting. Just what does that mean? In the past an offer was an offer unless there were problems with character or grades. That doesn't seem to be the case at all with Ryan.

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:19pm #

It means, you have a scholarship offer if we miss on other targets. We want you in the class, but we don't have a spot. It's helpful with the scholarship crunch, but nothing new.

moopdawg on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:41pm #

Thanks.

buckeye76BHop on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:33pm #

Agreed with what Alex said...and at the rate it's going with WRs/ATH...they very well could whiff on all three these you've mentioned...we'll see I suppose. I'm not taking the train to negative town just yet......but after this weekend...if one of these three aren't in....Timmons will be.

Edit* LOL and you know why...

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987

moopdawg on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:08pm #

Apologize folks, because I know it's been addressed before on this board. But, can somebody clarify the difference between committable offer and offer? Thanks in advance.

DowntheSideline12 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:02pm #

Finally. Awesome news, glad to see it. Glad to see his hard work and perseverance pay off.

Greg Jennings "I put my team on my back"

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:02pm #

I'd say it probably becomes committable after this weekend when Wilson is in town... If they don't get Wilson, they probably take Timmons.

BTwrestle04 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:07pm #

Wilson is the one I really want. Kid is a burner and a hell of an athlete and his team played some stiff competition. They lost in the state finals in Texas.

Rapping Bum on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:12pm #

LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!!!

Help is on the way.

BuckinBama on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:13pm #

I think its a bit too late in the recruiting game to still be issuing out un-comittable offers. Not to mention that negative effect I believe it would have on him at this point. I just think its time to stop playing with the kids, and let whoever wants to commit, commit.

GirthBrooks on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:13pm #

I assumed non-commitable offers were used to get a kid to visit (s.e.c.) & its not something this staff did. Why would they tell him to be patient and continue to build a relationship, only to not let him commit(assuming he wanted to). Really confusing

Run_Fido_Run on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:15pm #

At this stage in the process, the likelihood that the staff would offer Timmons a non-committable offer seems low to me.

After asking Timmons to be patient for so long, then to tell him a few weeks before NSD, "good news son, we've decided to offer you a scholarship . . . but it's not committable yet. Please hang in there a few more weeks with us as we wait to hear back from a few other kids."

If the goal were to maintain Timmons' interest, so that he'd remain as a fall-back option, giving him a non-comittable offer at this point probably wouldn't get it done; if anything, it might chase him away for good.

[edit: because of my long-windedness, by the time I posted this, it became redundant - sorry!]

GoldenBearBuckeye on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:40pm #

I think that the point of the noncommitable offer is that the staff decided that should their top guys on the board pass, then we would fill the spot (with Timmons) rather than bank it.

Run_Fido_Run on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:44pm #

You might be right and that seems to be how Alex is interpreting things.

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:54pm #

That's completely the same as not offering him all this time though. They've been visiting and keeping him in play all this time, why not make a non comittable offer 6 months ago then???? There's no difference between what they've done with this kid to this point and giving him a non comittable offer.

Also, I don't think he commits publicly on the spot because a couple weeks ago he tweeted something like 28 days. It was that many days til signing day. He's going to announce on signing day in my opinion, whether he got an offer today or not.

GirthBrooks on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:15pm #

If they are still waiting on wilson, carrington, smith.........why offer. Or "offer" and then tell him theres not enough room if wilson/carrington etc commit

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:15pm #

If they handed this kid a non-committable offer 2 weeks before NSD that would be pretty disappointing. BOTH for the kid and my view of the staff. If you aren't going to let a kid commit, then don't offer him.

Rapping Bum on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:15pm #

Help is on the way.

BuckNut51 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:17pm #

Where is Waycracken....?

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:19pm #

Probably studying to get his law degree so he can become Timmons' agent when he goes to the NFL... He did one heck of a job promoting him on this website.

BuckNut51 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:31pm #

Haha if I could up-vote you I would. Almost lost my coffee laughing. With all the promoting Waycracken did for this kid....

Waycracken is Timmons'....

BuddhaBuck on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:21pm #

Where is Lennay Kekua....?

Keep Calm and Ignore the Trolls.

andyb on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:22pm #

I really haven't cared to look into this but, what is Waycracken's relationship/interest in this kid? Is he family? friend?

WayCraKen on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:38pm #

No relation, no family friend, but have spoke with his mom grandma etc over the years at the games.

Im just a typical sport junkie that has attended multiple sports throughout my lifetime. Easy to root for a kid especially when he seems to be doing everything right in other areas of life.

The one thing this kid lacked was resources to attend multiple camps, and trips. His mother has worked multiple jobs to keep her kids needs met. If he does become a Buckeye he should blend in well with the other athletic kids on campus with character.

** I am glad his efforts have been recognized and my promotion of this kid in no way was meant to demean the value of any other kids.

It sounds to me however from ALEX, that this is not a real offer so we will have to wait and see.

andyb on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:42pm #

Thanks for the reply, I was really just wondering because I see your name all over everything that has to do with this kid.

Seems like you've done your research on him and I totally get rooting for him once you know his situation, it would be pretty cool for him to realize a lifelong dream and become a Buckeye.

Buckeyevstheworld on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:26pm #

My guess is praying to his Timmons shrine. I kid.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Alex on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:20pm #

let's see...I think we can all agree Timmons wants to be at OSU, no? If so, why won't he end up in this class if that is the case? I think Timmons to OSU depends a lot on what happens with Dontre Wilson, Corn Elder, Corey Smith, James Clark, and maybe even Darren Carrington

Ethan_Buck on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:22pm #

Maybe too early for this?

I dont always root for college athletics, but when i do (which is most of the time) I choose THE Ohio State Buckeyes.

DowntheSideline12 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:59pm #

Never too early for this

Greg Jennings "I put my team on my back"

Dublin68 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:29pm #

Congrats to both Timmons and Waycracken

crusher on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:29pm #

It would be a total dick move to offer after having him wait all this time and not accept his commitment

A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men

AJBor41 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:33pm #

I guess I'm the heartless bastard of the group, but I don't see this as a bad thing. Asking a kid to wait it out because he may be #3 or 4 on your list of top talents in the country may not be what he wants to hear, but it's the way that the system works.

If he doesn't see it that way and is offended by it, then I could certainly see his point of view, and would expect him to sign elsewhere.

As Alex said, if he wants to be a Buckeye and there's room for him at the end, he will be.

buckeyedude on 28 Jan 2013 - 11:49pm #

I agree. It's always best to be honest with these kids.

"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."

Alex on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:34pm #

I just honestly think if they really wanted Timmons they would push for a commitment. No way Ryan says let me think about this. Kid wants to be a Buckeye, it couldn't be more obvious.

I could be wrong. What do I know I guess? Just as much as the next guy, but I think if they were truly offering Timmons with the intent on taking him this would be signed, sealed, and delivered. The call from Meyer wouldn't be "oh let's schedule a visit". It would be "tell me, Do you want to be a Buckeye? Let's make this happen."

I think Clark, Carrington, and Wilson are the top choices (and maybe Smith with grades). Elder and Timmons clearly have not been made a priortiy, but the seats are being kept warm in case a spot opens up (Munger, someone else unexpected transfers, etc.) or one of the aforementioned players don't commit as expected.

bucknut8 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:59pm #

I see what Alex is saying......

this kid has wanted to be a Buckeye for so long.......

BUT why would the staff do such a thing like offer a kid that has did everything possible to earn an offer, then not even make it commitable? Like thats such dick move IMO. The kid has waited and waited and waited, then u offer him, and tell him he has to wait on others. I just dont get it. Why didnt they do this so earlier in the process? They could of told him the exact same thing as now "its not commitable, you have to wait on others." And still give him his offer.

Waiting this close to NSD to do this to this kid is just nasty to me, just a dick move i think

#Buckeyes

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:04pm #

Not really a dick move. With the scholarship crunch, they're essentially promising him a spot if we don't take three of Skipper/Wilson/Bell/Carrington. That's better than it was before.

Alex on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:16pm #

thanks Urbz....summarized what I've been trying to say

buckeye76BHop on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:30pm #

Not a dick move what so ever....it's to make sure the base is covered bc OSU needs play makers and Timmons is that. He's just option D to the ABC as stated above....I think he'll be in. My confidence on closing on a play maker is in question....I'm not in negative town yet...but I'm close. It's a mystery on why OSU can't get one of these top WRs/ATH at this point...at least to me it is.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987

bucknut8 on 23 Jan 2013 - 5:37pm #

just wanted to say that I wasnt the person that downvoted you. but Ill give ya an upvote to even out that persons DV. Nobody should be downvoted for there opinion.

#Buckeyes

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:00pm #

Which is exactly what they've been doing all along anyway. With all the visits they've taken to watch him play, his visits to campus, and all their conversations. If it truly is non comittable, if I'm him I just make it easy for the staff and take that Florida offer and be done with it. No sense in making a fake offer, when this whole time they've been telling him to hang in there if things break a certain way he'll be in this class. A non comittable offer is the same thing he's basically had all along. Either way the staff has told him, we like, just not that much.

buckeye76BHop on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:31pm #

Agree with you BT to the utmost...The non-committable offer makes no sense to me. It's a committable offer...the timing must be right as well as circumstances...hence...Clark, Wilson, and Carrington either being in or out. DV if you must...but that's the most feasible conclusion at this point...

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987

Buckifan4Life on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:11pm #

I agree. Look, I want the best recruits we can get, but the coaching staff needs to make a decision on this kid and not jerk him around. If he's not what they want DON'T OFFER HIM a scholly just bank it for next year. A noncommittable offer is disingenuous IMO.

otrain2416 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:10pm #

Alex just curious but couldn't they have offered him and told him he could commit if he made an official visit

Ahh Saturday on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:19pm #

Alex, a little surprised to hear Munger's name casually tossed out there. I thought the FSU visit was nothing to worry about. Is he wavering in his commitment?

BUCK-I-FAN on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:46pm #

Ryan would have to be the most understanding person in the world, if he is given a non commital offer after being 2nd choice to Gibson, Quick and now to Carrington, Wilson,C Smith and Clark. Most recruits would have hit the high road. you have to admire a kid with that kind of mentality. sign him up now we need kids like this.

dubjayfootball90 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:39pm #

now this is some good news. it will warm me up on this cold day if he commits/is allowed or able to commit

BlazeTheBuckeye on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:40pm #

no way is this offer non commitable ..... this kid is the classic underated three star player ...I hope we get him... would rather have him over corey smith and corn elder.

Hardly home but always reppin

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:47pm #

I have a feeling it's definitely not commitable. Why? If he were allowed to commit, he would've pulled a Darron Lee and committed. He obviously wants to be in the class. I believe this is the staff officially making him in the class if he's we miss on two of Wilson, Bell, Skipper, or Carrington? (Oregon guy). If we don't take three of those guys, I think he's in.

razrback16 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:01pm #

Yep. I don't think it's commitable either for the reasons you outlined. +1

andyb on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:45pm #

I really get the feeling this kid would have already been in long ago in Jim Tressel recruiting class.

I feel bad for Timmons but at the same time I love that Urban isn't just going for kids who are "no doubters"

osubuck57 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:46pm #

Hope he is able to commit.Either way,congrats to him,wherever he decides to go!!

SCOTTC.

DowntheSideline12 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:55pm #

So does this mean nothing will likely come of this until after the weekend and we know where we stand with other commits?

Greg Jennings "I put my team on my back"

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:01pm #

From the opinion of a casual observer and 11W reader... I'd say yes. They're probably waiting to see what happens with Wilson.

ODEEZ330 on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:57pm #

Finallllyyyyy timmons has been offered............to be a buckeye

O'Deez330
stark county football

elastik on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:58pm #

Offering the 55th choice at WR is a celebratory cause if I've ever seen one.....

Squirrel Master on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:19pm #

out of a hundred offers, yes it is! No reason to downplay something that means a lot to these kids. Especially the ones that really want to be a buckeye.

FYI, Timmons is still a highly rated WR, is faster than half the WR that have commited elsewhere and has the production for all of us to be very excited to have this kid. So there is no reason to downplay any of these kids and the offers they get. At least they were good enough to get an offer unlike many others who wish they were good enough for that.

elastik on 23 Jan 2013 - 5:42pm #

No matter what, Gibson's test score pushing WR recruiting into the current situation it is in isn't a good thing.

Offering kids in general two weeks before signing day isn't *great* bidness and when you're offering your 55th WR things aren't ideal.

I don't care how many times you watch that gawd damn HUDL highlight of Timmons and/or tell me "BUT HE RAN FAST AT FNL!!!" this kid was offered two weeks before signing day. No matter what type of player he ends up, that's not an optimal position for OSU to be in.

Squirrel Master on 23 Jan 2013 - 6:01pm #

I think you are way wrong! Florida just offered him last week, so I guess they are in an equally "non-optimal position" to be in? We are talking about OSU and Florida. THIS KID MUST SUCK TO GET AN OFFER FROM FLORIDA AND OHIO STATE SO LATE! WOW, WHY ARE THEY EVEN WASTING THEIR TIME WITH THIS KID! HE SUCKS!

Think about it like this then, would it be optimal that Urban went after all the best of the best WR and despite the odds that most of them would not accept and/or play for OSU, the offers still went out. Then at the very least, a top 300 overall talent in a nation of some odd thousands of High School football players is still available 2 weeks before NSD and wants to play for OSU. That is not an optimal position? I think it is pretty nice that the backup plan is a high end talent.

and just in case you haven't been paying attention the last 2 years, Urban offers 10X more recruits than Tressel ever did! So yes, there will be alot of rejections. Tressel might have already accepted Timmons and he might even be a heralded recruit. Don't let the over the top brilliance of Urban Meyer blind you to think that this is not a kid worth recruiting.

Not sure about you but I like the fact that the backup plan is still a 300 level player. that to me is very OPTIMAL!

elastik on 23 Jan 2013 - 6:04pm #

What are you talking about? This kid camped at OSU twice, waited six months for an OSU offer and it took about a half dozen WRs falling off the board for him to get an offer.

No, that isn't optimal. And I don't care about Joker Phillips offering him at UF even a little bit. I care about THIS STAFF seeing THIS KID multiple times (games, camps, etc) and not offering him until ABOUT A DOZEN WRs fell through. No matter what type of a player the kid ends up being IT ISN'T OPTIMAL TO BE TAKING YOUR LAST CHOICE AT THE POSITION, PERIOD. It also isn't optimal to be running around the country throwing out offers like mad at a single position before singing day.

The Gibson situation really jacked things up at WR.

I don't care how much YOU like the kid or I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE KID. I know the STAFF sat on the kid for many months and just now decideded he WAS offer worthy after a shit storm of BAD LUCK. That IS NOT ideal. Period.

SPreston2001 on 27 Jan 2013 - 10:01pm #

Dude grow up! This is college football recruiting! You dont always land every guy you go after! So what if he was a backup plan hes still a great catch! You disappointed because we got a really good player? None of these kids are guaranteed to pan out so dont knock the decsion! He could turn out being better than all those other WR's we had in front of him. OSU has a top 5 class and has a chance to be the #1 class so I think were more than happy with what we got. Calm down....

TheBadOwl on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:54pm #

I actually think he has a good point. Everyone here seems to be celebrating this offer, but think of all of the WR targets we missed before we offered Timmons. Not ideal whatsoever, but he's still worth a scholarship and talented enough to play here.

I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.

yankeescum on 28 Jan 2013 - 2:22pm #

Yes, I agree that the staff not being able to handpick exactly which players they want is not ideal, but I personally think that Timmons is an ideal fit for the current Buckeye offense. Hell it's not like coaching staffs have this shit down to a science, or why doesn't every kid who seems destined for greatness achieve stardom? Its a giant fucking crapshoot. These are actual high school kids. They are young and still maturing. The odds of really understanding what you are getting with one of them is even less likely than the NFL, where they have another 3 to 4 years of game tape and have likely reached their adult heighth (possibly not a word), and the NFL fucks it up all the time (see Russell, JaMarcus or our own Vernon Gholston, who was forced to play out of position). Projecting players' futures is hard work.

Even the current Buckeye staff is capable of getting things wrong. I think that we should be pretty happy to have a kid like Timmons, in regards to whom I think the staff has it wrong (I understand that my opinion doesn't count for shit). Look at Joey O'Connor, a probable stud at guard, who is not leaving. You take a Texas kid who might not have any idea what it is like to spend a winter in Ohio without his family, and high expectations, he might not make it. I think that a kid who lives down the road, who is a stellar athlete, and possesses a similar skill set, and has a real desire to be a Buckeye might be a better (in my opinion), and at least safer option. So hell, if it works out that Timmons comes to Ohio State, it might just be an "ideal" match

harleymanjax on 28 Jan 2013 - 4:36pm #

Ok so if you asked Miss America and the Miss America runner-up on a date and only the runner-up said yes would you be disappointed?

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

WayCraKen on 28 Jan 2013 - 5:01pm #

Ohh it gets even better. Miss America it turns out use to be into drugs and doing tricks on the side to support her habit. The girl tried straightening up her act and began volunteering her time working for the DNC in California.

My god wouldnt you rather date the Runner up knowing Miss America worked for the DNC?

Earle on 28 Jan 2013 - 5:03pm #

Wait, I'm confused. Who is Miss America and who is the runner-up here? And are either of them AJ McCarron's girlfriend or mother?

buckeyedude on 29 Jan 2013 - 12:03am #

I'd be excited if Miss Blarney Irish Pub Karaoke Queen said "yes." But that's just me.

"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."

crusher on 29 Jan 2013 - 12:00am #

Aj Hawk was a last second plan c recruit and that seemed to work out ok.

A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men

buckeyestu on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:59pm #

saw somewhere that timmons plans to announce on february 5th.

1MechEng on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:59pm #

The waiting game is the hardest part of all of this. Timmons is stuck waiting until everything shakes out to find out if he has a spot or not. Uncertainty causes stress, and I hope that's not affecting him negatively.

Timmons has made his desires clear, and I hope the coaching staff has been up front with him. Hopefully, his wishes come true.

BlazeTheBuckeye on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:59pm #

from espn's Buckeyenation site:
Ohio State offered the ESPN 300 athlete during a visit to Timmons' school on Tuesday. Timmons has long expressed interest in the Buckeyes, but coaches there had yet to extend a scholarship offer. Timmons said head coach Urban Meyer explained the situation and that there were no hard feelings about the delay.

"He said he's not a guy that's going to offer a guy and take it away," the athlete prospect from Frankfort (Ky.) Franklin County said.

The Ohio State offer came two days after Florida offered the 5-foot-11, 180-pound prospect. Former Kentucky head coach Joker Phillips visited Timmons on Monday. He is now the receivers coach at Florida.

Hardly home but always reppin

WayCraKen on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:06pm #

Sounds to me like it is a committable offer? Do we know one way or another for sure or is this all speculation?

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:08pm #

I think we will know or not by the end of the day tomorrow. He wanted to be a Buckeye for a long time, I don't think he'll stay uncommitted for long if it is indeed commitable.

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:03pm #

He has said he's going to announce on NSD, so there's always that.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 1:59pm #

If it were May, June, or July of 2012 and they sent out a non-committable offer... That would be understandable, but it's 2 weeks before NSD. I don't understand the point in Urban calling and sayiing, "Hey... We have a scholly for you if we miss on Smith, Wilson, Lauderdale, Carrington, and Elder." Just keep hanging on.

OldColumbusTown on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:10pm #

I think, as some others have said above, that the point is the staff is telling him now that if there is a spot left in the class that has not been filled, it is his if he wants it. Yes, they are going after some others right now, but keep us in mind on signing day, or before, because we'd still like to have you as part of the class if we have room.

Prior to this, without even a non-commitable offer, Timmons has never gotten any such indication that the staff really wants him to be a part of this class. At least now he's hearing that if things fall the right way, there is a scholarship available, and Timmons still wants to be a Buckeye, it is there for him.

"What we do in life echoes in eternity"

Buckeyevstheworld on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:01pm #

So I searched Timmons on google, and I got linked to WayCraKen's profile. Even google knows his love for Timmons.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

tennbuckeye19 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:07pm #

If Timmons is announcing February 5th (day before Signing Day) then I think OSU offering now, commitable or not, is fine. He's got his OSU offer and we will know more after this weekend about the other recruits. There is plenty of time for things to shake out. A lot could happen for him and OSU in the next 2 weeks.

elastik on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:10pm #

The staff (not we) will know more after this weekend, sure, but Wilson also has the OSUwest visit the following weekend. Nothing is going to be really clear until that visit happens and he rules out Texas/ND.

The Wilson situation is VERY pro-OSU right now accoridng to most anybody connected to the situation, but it's not exactly guaranteed to move quickly.

And the Carrington situation also became far more pro-OSU yesterday. It moved from the theoretical realm that the Robinson Twins lived in to a very real visit on 2/2 and his father openly commenting on the situation to Rivals.

Alex on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:18pm #

I'm done going through my thoughts on the subject...everyone is entitled to their own opinon. Mine is that this is a "conditional offer" if those words are better. I personally believe that they would not take Timmons' commitment today, but maybe they said to him "if James Clark doesn't commit we want you", etc.

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:21pm #

Agreed 100%. This makes most sense. I feel like if it were commitable, it'd be gray box time (a la Darron Lee).

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:31pm #

I don't think anyone is upset with your opinion of the situation. I think most of us just think the idea of a non-commitable offer is dumb. A conditional offer is more rational. It will be interesting to see what happens. I believe Smith is out... If he academically were able to be a Buckeye I believe he already would be. I think Wilson stays with Oregon since the OC was promoted and RB coach is staying. I think we are too late with Clark. Carrington is the most interesting one to me. Finally, Timmons is better than Elder. His body is more college ready too.

Squirrel Master on 23 Jan 2013 - 5:18pm #

I don't think some on here realize when they criticize the "non-committable" thing that they are criticizing your opinion Alex. I think they are thinking in regards to Urban and his staff.

I don't think a conditional offer is that bad. Timmons sounds very happy to get at least that. I am curious to the comments of "sorry about the delay". There is no reason to be sorry about a delay, they have been very forthcoming about the scenario and I am sure Timmons totally understands the loss of 3 schollies hurt his chances to be in already. Timmons understands everything and just because the kid favors OSU, doesn't mean he commits on the spot anyways. The kid has some good offers and really should think about what is best for him as opposed to how he feels he wants. It wouldn't be all that horrible for him to go to Florida or even be the best receiver at UK on a pass happy offense.

Plus I think if Marshall wasn't already on this team, Timmons would be in because they are very close to the same player for this offense. Marshall is the obvious better talent overall so really Timmons would be a luxury to have, but luxuries just aren't as necessary as needs at OL, Safety and outside WR.

I do really hope Timmons gets in though. I said it many times in the past, knowing how to score like he does, to have a knack for getting touchdowns on 1 play, is a real skill. Some players are really good at getting first downs and yards. Some are really good at getting into the endzone. Timmons knows how to get into the endzone and I would really like to see that on offense or special teams.

Right Again on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:34pm #

Not sure what to make of this...

Ryan Timmons has been given a Greyshirt offer from OSU. Doesn't mean much, considering he wants full ride. Looks good for UK.

— Kentucky Recruiting(@RecruitKentucky) January 23, 2013

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:37pm #

I'm not sure of how reputable they are. They may be ticked off (fan-centric) and confused non-commitable offer with greyshirt.

Edit: I tweeted at them. I'll see if they reply.

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:06pm #

if the gray shirt thing was true, I would never want to hear an Ohio State fan ever complain about oversigning again.

OSU2002Grad on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:19pm #

We're not grayshirting a verbally committed prospect. There's a big difference and your comment is borderline idiotic.

Squirrel Master on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:37pm #

Even if they did Gray shirt him, it would be the 3rd time in what, 7-10 years. Its not right but every now and then is a lot better than gray shirting a player every year.

elastik on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:38pm #

If this is true I love Meyer even more....

He wants his Emergency Contingency Plan 17C and is willing to do whatever it takes to keep it in place damnit!

Shaun OSU on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:42pm #

The only place reporting this greyshirt offer (that would benefit UK) is a UK Recruiting Twitter profile...I'm very much inclined to ignore this report until someone reputable reports it.

Real outlets like ESPN and 247 have talked to Timmons and coach and made no mention of a greyshirt offer. In fact, ESPN has reported that Meyer told Timmons he waited so long to offer because he didn't want to offer and then have to pull it later.

oregonianbuckeye on 23 Jan 2013 - 9:50pm #

Timmons said his offer from osu is not a gray shirt offer on twitter about an hour ago.

Ispeakthetruth on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:36pm #

This committable, non-committable stuff is silly. If a player can't commit to your school, then he doesn't have an offer.

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:38pm #

Ah but he does, it's an offer based on conditions. If ______ and _____ happens, it becomes committable. What else would you call it besides a conditional offer?

Ispeakthetruth on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:40pm #

A statement of interest. It's not an offer. An offer is something one can accept.

UrbzRenewal on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:47pm #

But it's not a statement of interest. It's a promise that can be fufilled conditionally.

CincyOSU on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:50pm #

I don't care what you call it, it's not right to "offer" a 17 year kid something he can't accept...unless the coaches decide he can when they REALLY want him.

CincyOSU on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:46pm #

Agreed, its NOT an offer. I hate this committable/non-committable crap. It's unfair to the kids. Either offer, and let him make his decision, or not. It's pretty simple.

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:08pm #

Well he can make a decision, to go to Florida, UK, Mizzou, or Cal. I think a non comitable offer is no different than the position he's been in this whole time where they are telling him to wait til things shake out and their other targets don't pan out. If he is willing to wait that's on him. He has options, he's just choosing to wait this one out.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:40pm #

A non-commitable offer still means he can't be a Buckeye yet... It's the same as NOT offering him.

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 6:44pm #

I understand that and have said it many times, but to say he has no options is just wrong. He has plenty of options that aren't Ohio State.

Maceyko on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:43pm #

If they are upfront with a kid then this whole thing is understandable. As long as he knows what the offer is, what it means, and where he stands then I don't see how the staff can be criticized for it. If I'm Timmons then at least I know my options. Everyone can have their opinions but I love everything this staff is doing so far. If we weren't facing scholarship reductions then maybe Timmons would already be in.

tennbuckeye19 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:39pm #

It seems like as he has been waiting for an OSU offer, things have changed a bit for him. UK has a new coach, Joker Phillips has been hired @ Florida and now they've offered, so I'm not so sure he would just up and commit today if he could. He's got some things to think about and consider. This may have been the offer he's been waiting on and wanting to get the most, but again, if he's set an announcement date for February 5th, it doesn't seem like he's in a hurry. So for now, it doesn't really matter if its a commitable offer or not.

blazers34 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:40pm #

Just an opinion here, but isnt there a chance that he DID commit to the coaches last night? Cryptic I know, but Pantoni tweeted out some bible verse that I think was referencing the Timmons situation. Plus, Timmons probably would wait a few days to announce that he had committed just to save face. He had been waiting on this offer, and unless the greyshirt rumor is true I cant see him letting it slip by

buckeyestu on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:47pm #

the time at the bottom of that twittter box announcing a gray shirt, show 6:11 pm. on the 23 rd of this month, does that makes sense?

tennbuckeye19 on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:53pm #

yeah, what's up with that? Did the news of Timmons getting an OSU offer break twitter?

Poison nuts on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:58pm #

Ryan Timmons: Fastest young man in KY...Twitter buster.

The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.

ohio gf on 23 Jan 2013 - 2:47pm #

This is from TOS....."Ohio State Offensive Coordinator Tom Herman has extended an Ohio State scholarship offer to slot receiver/running back Ryan Timmons."

I take that as if it was a full ride.....now I could be wrong on this as well.

buckz4evr on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:03pm #

I think the offer is committable, but he now wants to wait and check his other offers out. Personally, I think we waited too long to get a commitment on the spot. I'm not saying he won't commit, but he now has other options to think about.

Buckeye80 on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:15pm #

I don't believe it is a dick move at all. It is what it is. Of course this is assuming that the coaching staff is making him wait. I'm sure Timmons knows he isn't the best player in the country at his position. He shouldn't be suprised that he isn't the first option. I posted this already in another thread, but it explains my thoughts:

I don't know if I buy the whole "he played against lesser talent" point. The same thing was said about Terelle Pryor because he didn't play at the highest division in Pennsylvania. What I do believe is that for some reason Timmons isn't as high on the list as some of the other recruits out there. I'm not sure of the reason, but thats just the way it is. TP was the consensus best player in the country even though he didn't play D1 in high school.

We all heard Coach Coombs. Coach Meyer wants the 25 best players in the country. With that said, speed is speed, and Timmons has speed. I love the fact that he wants to be a Buckeye, and if the staff gives him and offer, I personally will be thrilled. If not...I'm going to be forced to trust

southbymidwest on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:37pm #

Should be interesting to see if Timmons takes his OV to Florida.

Perhaps he has started to look hard at other schools since it looked like he had to make Plans B and C for himself. Perhaps he really has built a relationship with the coaches at UK, and now has to sit down and draw up the tried and true Reasons to commit to OSU vs. reasons to commit to UK/UF/wherever checklist, emotions vs. logic.

Regardless, I hope he ends up happy and excited about his choice, even if that choice might not end up being OSU.

WayCraKen on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:54pm #

And at this point I am sure there would be no hard feelings. This is news UK did not want to hear. Im hearing quite a few other big name schools are calling in.

ktownbuckeye20 on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:39pm #

The non-commitable offer is rediculous. If i was a recruit it would make me feel unwanted. I mean think about using this approach in the dating scene. "Brittany, I really like you but I'm going to wait to see what Stacey, Ashley, and Leslie say first."

OldColumbusTown on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:43pm #

But what if Brittany believes you are the man of her dreams, and she loves you so much she'll wait out your stubborness?

This is what OSU is banking on. If Timmons takes it as a slap in the face, fine - he can move on and go somewhere else. However, if this is the place he wants to be, he now has a potential opportunity to make that happen.

"What we do in life echoes in eternity"

buckeybowhunter on 23 Jan 2013 - 7:41pm #

Absolutely. I am not a fan of this practice. You either offer a kid a scholarship or be honest and tell them that you are considering offering them at a later time. I don't think this practice is representative of the principles of THE Ohio State University.

buck-I.8 on 28 Jan 2013 - 2:17pm #

No, it's the equivalent of saying, "Brittany, I really like you, but I need some time to figure things out." It's a variation of what happens all the time in human interaction

OldColumbusTown on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:40pm #

I guess I don't understand the confusion/mass hysteria over this "non-commitable" offer.

Prior to today, Timmons knew OSU was interested in him, but had never heard them extend any type of invitation truly asking him to become part of the Ohio State program. Interest is not the same as a "non-commitable" offer, or as Alex put it, "conditional" offer. The offer extended, if non-commitable/conditional, is the first indication Timmons has gotten that Ohio State truly would like him to commit to the class. The only thing is, they have a few other guys who they are going after first, and if for some reason all those guys do commit, then the condition of the offer is now off the table. If they do not commit, he now has a green light to commit, which he previously did not have.

It basically comes down to this: On February 5, if Ohio State has not filled up its class, Timmons now could have a choice between UK, Florida, and Ohio State (along with others). If Ohio State has filled its class, those choices now do not include Ohio State, because there is no more room.

"What we do in life echoes in eternity"

ATXbucknut on 23 Jan 2013 - 3:42pm #

Timmons' coach, Chris Tracy, tells me that his offer from Ohio State is not conditional and is not a grey shirt offer as some have suggested

— Josh Edwards (@JEdwar247) January 23, 2013

Right Again on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:02pm #

Thanks for clearing that up!

buckeyedude on 29 Jan 2013 - 12:17am #

He may have cleared that up, but all of the arguing we witnessed was for nothing!

"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:12pm #

So is Timmons saving face by not committing on the spot or is he really considering UK or UF over OSU now? Or did he commit and Urban told him to pick a hat on NSD on national TV to gain exposure for the program?

GoldenBearBuckeye on 27 Jan 2013 - 7:26pm #

Timmons' coach also added that N Dame and USC offered committable offers that UCLA, Kansas and Kentucky offered basketball scholarships and that Heidi Fleiss offered him a freebie.

No one wants to humiliate this kid, but now I'm sick of hearing something (that the offer is unconditional) that insults our intelligence and cannot pass the straight face test!!!

WayCraKen on 27 Jan 2013 - 7:37pm #

I get part of your humor but fail to see all of it?? In fact it was a committable offer so the coach was correct. Maybe you wont have anything to worry about. At this time I see Kentucky, OSU and Florida as his final 3. If OSU gets Wilson to commit it probably closes that door.

The one you need to worry about is EZE... He doesnt seem to want any competition.

GoldenBearBuckeye on 27 Jan 2013 - 9:21pm #

I like your posts and don't want to bicker with you, but even without the background of the canceled visit etc. it is pretty obvious that the offer is highly conditional.

In fact, my guess is that U Meyer or staff worked with the kid's coach to find a way to make it look like the offer was unconditional so he could leverage the offer to go elsewhere because they liked the kid.

Again trying to be sensitive to the kid's feelings, but he does not appear to be plan a, b or even c.

WayCraKen on 27 Jan 2013 - 9:27pm #

dont want to bicker either, and coaches are visiting him again this week

GoldenBearBuckeye on 27 Jan 2013 - 9:53pm #

I had no preference between Jacobs and Timmons but thought that taking both would be a luxury in a year with scholarship reductions.

I'm fine with your kid coming but don't think there is a spot unless they whiff on Wilson and Clark.

ohio gf on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:06pm #

Guess the ky web didn't know what they were talking about...or was hoping Timmons would believe their theory and pick uk.

WayCraKen on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:18pm #

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/recruiting/2013/01/23/timmons-gets-ohio...

some info

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:21pm #

What do you think Waycraken? Will he be a Buckeye or did the staff wait too late?

Personally... I think he gave a silent verbal...

WayCraKen on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:34pm #

Only thing I know is that UK has built a solid relationship in the absence of an offer. But during his visit at UK a friend asked how it was going and his response was Great But you know my preference. Thats open for interpretation because he was in the midst of getting that UF offer. He had a good relationship with Joker before he left and supposedly Joker took tapes and Timmons evaluated higher than many of the 4*s we often talk about. I was told they evaluated the speed on the KO return and he is at the top on that one film.

His preference has always been tOSU but there was many many offers made by OSU before they gave him one.

Didnt answer the question but my gut tells me it is still OSU.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:36pm #

I hope he ends up at OSU now... All of the guys we missed on and now we have a shot at a kid who wants to be a Buckeye... You've done a great job of promoting him on here.

I think it is very telling that he was offered today... And he set his announcement date today too... I don't like to read into things, but I think he will be a Buckeye.

GoldenBearBuckeye on 27 Jan 2013 - 9:56pm #

I don't see the point in a silent verbal unless the kid is super high ranked.

For a less prominent recruit, it makes more sense for a public announcement to let the highly touted kids know that the train is leaving and there are not enough spots if they wait.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:21pm #

He's ranked as a 4* recruit on some of the recruiting services, so I wouldn't consider him that low. He is also starting to garner some pretty decent offers. If Urban and the staff offer the kid, then he has to be a pretty legit player. I believe Worley is ranked as a 3* on some services and the staff wanted him.

GoldenBearBuckeye on 29 Jan 2013 - 3:11am #

The only way he's a silent verbal is if his offer is conditional on us whiffing on Wilson and/or Clark. Otherwise they would have him commit as they did with Worley.

If he moves up his announcement date it is because he decided that he would not wait for a rejection from Wilson/Clark.

No other reasonable explanation given the timeline/canceled trips etc.

BrooklynBuckeye on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:21pm #

I agree with many that the "conditional" offer is a little unpleasant, but if Timmons still wants to decide on NLOI day, as he should if he is interested in Ohio State and the Buckeyes can't guarantee room, then this allows him to have the Buckeyes as a hat he could choose. There's no reason for the people following him to know that maybe Ohio State's class filled, and he couldn't go there. The video would still show him picking a UK or UF hat over tOSU. In that sense, the conditional offer seems to have the recruit in mind a little bit.

Toilrt Paper on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:28pm #

If it turns out another more highly regarded recruit pops for Ohio State at or close to NSD, Timmons will not have a problem signing with a good program. If nothing else having a non-commitable offer from Ohio State makes his stock go up. Like it or not College Football is a multi-million dollar business. The same rules apply when filling board room caliber positions in other sections of the business world. Been there done that.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 4:30pm #

Look about 5-6 posts above... His offer is committable and he has set an announcement date for Feb 5th.

Squirrel Master on 23 Jan 2013 - 5:12pm #

This just in, a highly regarded quarterback is thinking about switching to OSU, so Urban is now recinding Braxton Millers scholarship because this new kid is supposedly "ranked" higher than Braxton was 2 years ago!

Come on people! Need to get over this "non-committable" and/or "committable" offer crap. The kid got an offer and he is going to pick whichever team he believes is best for him. Not everykid, despite how much they want to play for a specific team, just commits on the spot. Plus I wouldn't put it past Urban to have the kid announce on NSD to let the kid promote himself a bit since he was very unheralded nationally.

and to those "he isn't highly regarded" comments, the kid is a top 300 athlete across many recruiting sites. There are some current commits that aren't in the top 300.

Nkohl13 on 23 Jan 2013 - 9:21pm #

What? Can't we take Cardales scolarship or not accept JT's commitment?

bucknut8 on 23 Jan 2013 - 5:45pm #

Non Commitable Offer = No offer

In my eyes. Cant be a Buckeye anyway until its a legit Commitable offer.

As much as I want Timmons in this class, if I was him, Id be telling the staff "Thanks, but no thanks" and jump an offer that he feels good about. or in other words commit elsewhere. The kid dosnt deserve to go through all this again.

The kid knew where he wanted to go & wanted to wait for OSU, then OSU pretty much broke it off (could of been a good thing for him, stop wasting his time & think about himself & commit where he wants), then after the kid pretty much has a solid idea what hes going to do with his life, OSU comes back in and screws with his mind again. Now the kid is rethinking everything. I think the offer has to be commitable as I cant see Meyer doing that to a kid. but what do I know. I just wouldnt keep wasting my time with OSU if I was him, it would get old being played and he deserves better/more.

#Buckeyes

andyb on 23 Jan 2013 - 6:10pm #

Josh Edwards @JEdwar247

"Timmons' coach, Chris Tracy, tells me that his offer from Ohio State is not conditional and is not a grey shirt offer as some have suggested"

This is a commitable offer

Aesculus. on 23 Jan 2013 - 5:49pm #

One thing is for sure with Urban, a recruit is not out of the picture untill he signs with another team. Alot of people closed the Timmons case last week. Even Waycracken admitted defeat. But this one is still very much alive.....

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone, all that we send into the life of others comes back into our own." -WWH

WayCraKen on 23 Jan 2013 - 6:00pm #

Yes I even bought 2 season football tickets
To UK last week

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 7:09pm #

Shouldn't be too hard to get rid of, a lot of UK fans are delusional and think they are going to be a great football program now.

WayCraKen on 23 Jan 2013 - 7:20pm #

Ive been accused of that in this forum lol.

btalbert25 on 23 Jan 2013 - 7:23pm #

They may improve, but the very best they could ever really hope for is being 4th best in the SEC East.

Aesculus. on 27 Jan 2013 - 6:00pm #

HA! I liked them better when they had a Off. Guard playing QB. But seriously, never fear the trolls on Urban's watch.

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone, all that we send into the life of others comes back into our own." -WWH

yankeescum on 27 Jan 2013 - 6:37pm #

Hell yes, the original J-Lo. The Pillsbury ThrowBoy!!! He got a first down against the Eagles on a sneak in the playoffs, and I am not positive about this, but I think that it was when they won the superbowl against the Pats the first time. If not for him, where would Eli Manning be?

yankeescum on 27 Jan 2013 - 7:10pm #

I decided to fact check myself, and I was wrong. It was actually the first round in the 2006 -2007 playoffs. And the Giants lost 23-20. But Lorenzen did pick up the first down. I'm an idiot.

WayCraKen on 27 Jan 2013 - 7:15pm #

I see Drew Barker signing with them---- If they get everyone to sign on that they have slotted the defense is going to be the most improved in the country. Looks like they are getting a flip from USC, Nebreska and Florida on defense.

DefendOhio on 23 Jan 2013 - 7:48pm #

Is this kid really worth the hype of all these threads? Honest question. Not trying to be a dick.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 23 Jan 2013 - 7:58pm #

Go to today's Quick Bits and check out his highlight reel and judge for yourself. His biggest knock has been lack of competition, but a lot of people have said Zeke's competition was bad and I personally believe Elder's competition is bad.

yankeescum on 23 Jan 2013 - 8:21pm #

I think so. He is fast as hell, has great quick feet, lateral movement, start/stop ability and vision. None of the kids that have offers have played Big 10 football before. Jacobs and Elliot's competition doesn't look fantastic either. The physical skills are there, it is a question of whether or not he can adapt to the physicality of big time football, but that is a question for all of these kids.

oregonianbuckeye on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:15pm #

Timmons has decided to not take an unofficial to tOSU this weekend.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:21pm #

I believe he might be UK bound.

chromedomebuck on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:22pm #

Wondering out loud if it's because we have "filled" the WR spot with Clark and/or Wilson or if he genuinely just has decided against OSU. Recruiting = madness.

I hope he does well wherever he ends up but think he could really make some noise at UK.

I'm going to guess that Clark gave the silent verbal to the staff this weekend but that's nothing more than blind conjecture on my part.

Champions Bleed Scarlet & Gray

HotSauceCommittee on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:33pm #

My thought is that Timmons might have wanted the offer more than the committment itself. Another hat on the table so to speak.

WayCraKen on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:30pm #

Option C, Option D, CONDITIONAL offer, last choice, horrible competition, grey shirt, bank the scholarship instead, not a WR, only a few of the insults from rediculous posts. Just imagine if Coach Meyer really wants him (in home visit being planned again this week), how much tougher do you think this makes his job?

i feel for Eze and some of the lunacy he had to endure from some rabid Buckeyes as well.

We should have constructive input and trust our coaches.

andyb on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:52pm #

I understand where you are coming from...and I agree that many people are far too critical of Kids they really just have second and third hand knowledge of...BUT

This really should not have an effect on what Urban Myer does or how recruits see him in their eyes.

I will say this, when I was 18 years old if Jim Tressel had come to me and said "Son, we want you at Ohio State. Please accept this scholarship." You better believe that NONE of anything anyone else has said about me or to me would matter. Think about it from that perspective.

Squirrel Master on 28 Jan 2013 - 2:32pm #

It is sad but no matter what, the kid will be either playing for OSU or Florida. Despite what these idiots on here and on twitter think of him, he is going to play for a top program. That right there says he is good enough!

I really hope he does come to OSU. Even if he returns kicks for a few years, he is still lightning in a bottle. If I had any say, Timmons, Bell and anyone else would be the best finish.

buckeyestu on 28 Jan 2013 - 1:49pm #

wasnt timmons suppose to take an ov to florida this coming weekend? he has been to ohio state many times.

ATXbucknut on 28 Jan 2013 - 11:08pm #

Linked to here and pasted below is a local Kentucky interview with Timmons. He explains a little bit about why he canceled his recent OV to OSU. The Ohio State part starts at the 4:30 mark.

Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 28 Jan 2013 - 11:23pm #

He wants a coach who is confident and a program that wins... I guess it's between UF and OSU.

blazers34 on 28 Jan 2013 - 11:30pm #

All that while in USC gear. Pretty funny.

WayCraKen on 28 Jan 2013 - 11:51pm #

Reggie Bush. USC expressed interest too. He got to speak with Randall Cobb this past weekend. Randal Cobb could be the poster athlete for ignorace of recruiting web sites. A 2 Star that is a gem. Always under estimated. But Alway proved the critics wrong. Even after all he did at UK the SEC tried to disregard his abilities saying it was at UK. Comeon man Evaluate players Not a System. That why the NFL picks out skills and not reputations.

One too many Beers at Bdubs in Milwaukee tonight I think.

theobi on 28 Jan 2013 - 11:09pm #

Nothing against Timmons, but I would rather have Clark and Wilson. If either one of them doesn't commit, I would want him though. Recruiting is tricky