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Landon Donovan

BHT's picture
May 22, 2014 at 6:03pm
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dcbucks's picture

Lets hope Julian Green can do what Donovan did in his first world cup

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William's picture

Really intrigued by Julian Green. Kid made his professional debut with Bayern Munich this year as an 18 year old. 

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jeremytwoface's picture

I'm pretty excited about him but he is largely unproven... It will be exciting to see him get into games against top flight players.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Bolt's picture

Green's probably along for the ride. I don't expect to see much of him. With Klinnsman's tactics he's looking to employ in this WC, Donovan would have to be a forward to fit in. He's not going to play in the central midfield, isn't enough of a playmaker anymore (he's old and can really go hard in spurts anymore and isn't suited for ball control, facilitating and central midfield) to unseat Michael Bradley in the CAM role that Jurgen is looking for going into this WC (I didn't think Bradley would be well suited for this attacking position until watching him single handedly offensively wreck Mexico in the first half of our last friendly). Donovan also isn't going to be beating out the likes of Jozy, Deuce or Johannson up top at forward. That brings us to the player that truly knocked Lando out of this WC: Chris Wondolowski. I could make many arguments for taking Lando over Wondo, but Wondo has fallen in line, worked his butt off and shown results over the last couple years way more so than Donovan to play his way into Jurgen's heart a bit more. Plus, Wondo is showing much better form right now than Donovan is. I figure part of the equation when weighing this for Klinnsman was is Donovan going to be okay with spending a lot of time on the bench this time around?? -- much like I figure Green's going to be doing with much more established players ahead of him in the midfield (I'm not sure where Green fits in tactically either...my impression was he is supposed to be more of a wing/attacking outside midfielder...but no one's seen enough of him to know what he can really do).

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Iwearmocs's picture

In all honesty though, Donovan has been terrible for the past year or so.  His real world class skill was his speed/fitness, and he's getting older.  I still thought he'd make it, just not start.

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

Totally agree on Donovan. I thought he would get the nod and be a sub based on his past...but he can only go for 30mins or so at a World Cup level, IMO. 

Looks to me like Klinsman is setting a precedent by getting the dual citizens on the roster...and also making his own mark by starting the youth movement with the inclusions of Green and Yedlin.

jeremytwoface's picture

His production hasn't really dropped off all that much....

The past two years he has had 9 goals and 14 assists (2012) and 10 goals and 9 assists (2013). 

His average goals for the five previous years is 11.8 and his average assists for the same time is 9.4.....

 

I understand that he's getting older and a little slower, but you can't tell me that the team is better off without him. I don't buy that. Brad Davis over Donovan?? I don't understand it...

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Bolt's picture

Donovan was only going to fit in as a forward in the formations Jurgen's looking to employ. Davis didn't have anything to do with Donovan not making the squad (they play different positions)...Johannson and Wondolowski did. Johannson's in better form and shape than Lando and is just plainly going to be better right now and going forward all around for this team. Wondo's production dwarfs Lando's and Wondo has proven he can go harder longer, he can come in cold off the bench to poach goals and cause stress in front of the net, and really Wondo has earned it more over the last couple years...all starting with Landon's "sabbatical"...but also his production, his work ethic, his niche and his plainly falling in line with Jurgen. Lando really hasn't been the same recently, but it's still sad to see the end of an era so abruptly.

osu07asu10's picture

I think this is a terrible decision. I suppose he earned it by taking time away from the USMNT but this just doesn't feel right.

I agree with iwearmocs that his skill was world class speed which he has lost a few steps.  Still, Donovan is one of a handful of US players who can create for others with his passing as well as the runs he makes.

To me, it would akin to leaving Gerrard off the english roster (skill not comparable, situation wise). Just doesn't feel right.

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Seattle Linga's picture

I'm sure he feels like crap and even though he has not played well lately - he always played well for the Red White and Blue - I hope this move doesn't come back and haunt us. 

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Bolt's picture

I really don't see the inclusion or exclusion of Lando as being a big factor as to whether or not we advance out of the group stage. Most likely either way we're not going to...and there are just plain and simply better players ahead of Lando right now (or are at least in much better form right now) so, honestly I figure he'd only be coming off the bench and may not have even seen time at all in some games.

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Unky Buck's picture

I've liked your points, Bolt. I like Landon, but I think it's time for some new blood in there. He has slowly taken a step back, it seems, the last few years so let's get some youthful energy in the lineup. He would've been nice to have around as a veteran of the WC, but I just don't think he would've been playing much.

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Gotta take risks to win. Especially with the draw.  I respect Donovan and am thankful for all he's done, but we're moving on. No sense in taking 4% roster space for a participation ribbon

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jeremytwoface's picture

Do you think that Brad Davis has more of a chance to play than Donovan would?

I think that experience counts a lot in a World Cup. There are only 5 players on this roster with World Cup experience. Five.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Yes I do. This is because coach doesn't see Donovan as a midfielder. 

You're right that experience counts. It counts as much for the next one as it does this one. 

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jeremytwoface's picture

So don't bring your best team to this one so that we can have experience for the next one?? I'm all for getting experience to young players but not to the point where we aren't sending our best team to this year's World Cup.

We are going to have players with experience whether Donovan is there or not. 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Bolt's picture

Donovan can't be the type of midfielder Klinnsman wants at this stage of his career. Like literally can't physically do it. And right now he'd probably be the 5th best forward behind Jozy, Deuce, Johannson and Wondo as far as how they're playing right now...not how he played 4 years ago...or 8 years ago. I understand this sucks to see the end of an era of one of the US team's best ever....but it had to happen sooner or later.

BuckeyeVet's picture

Definately conflicted about this move. Klinsmann has said he thinks the US media treats Donovan "like a sacred cow". There has been some friction between them since Donovan took some time off last year. But Donovan has a hurt knee and reports are that he has lost a 1/2 step & isn't as explosive. On the other hand his experience & the effort he always brings will be missed. I'll always have fond memories of his goal against Algeria. I wish him nothing but the best.

P. S.  Hey William - what do you think about this?

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William's picture

Probably the right move. Donovan's two greatest skills were his speed and his ability to create/make something happen, and while he still possesses the ability to create/carry play, he isn't as fast as he used to be, therefore he isn't the threat that he used to be on the field. Donovan was great for the national team for a very long time, but it was time for him to step down. 

Also with Donovan's absence in the squad, this is going to put a lot of pressure on a guy like Graham Zusi, as he'll be looked to when it comes to creating/carrying play. 

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Deadly Nuts's picture

I don't really like the decision personally but i'm 100% sure that Klinsmann knows what he is doing.

LEBRON

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clogan1032's picture

The real problem is Klinsmann views Donovan as a forward and not a midfielder. But to put Chris Wondolowski on this squad over Donovan is a joke. Even Greene is unproven. Donovan as a sub and leader makes great sense and leaving him off gives a lot of people a built in excuse when USA doesn't make it out of group play. He has lost a few steps but still brings more to the table from the bench then Wondolowski. They have to beat Gahanna first match to even have hopes of making it through but if they get four points they will get out of group play. Not a fan of this decision but Klinsmann loves his German players. 

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jeremytwoface's picture

They MIGHT get out of group play with 4 points. Beat Ghana, draw with Portugal and lose to Germany.... You would think that Portugal will beat Ghana so that means that they would probably have to beat Portugal on goal differential. 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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clogan1032's picture

Praying for a Portugal Germany tie. That puts them through for sure but I agree. Four should get them through though as the third team. How Mexico gets the draw they received and USA gets the death draw when they beat Mexico is crazy

jeremytwoface's picture

Hate to break it to ya man, but only 2 teams from each group move on to the knock out stage.

4 points might not do it....

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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clogan1032's picture

You're right. For some reason I was thinking there was a wildcard type advancement but definitely not the case. Four might not do it but it will be close and I also think it is the best they can do. 

jeremytwoface's picture

Yeah... I think team Ronaldo is beatable but we will see. The Ghana game is the important one.. If they can go into that game and win by 3 that would help a ton... not only with goal differential but with confidence.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

OldColumbusTown's picture

If the US do not beat Ghana, their chances are basically slim and none to advance.  HOWEVER, there has been much talk lately that Germany's roster is full of injury (and a lot of guys who've played a TON of games the past two years with Bayern and Dortmund).

I can see a few scenario's here that are positive for the US.  1) Germany is banged up and at the end of the group stage, they have trouble with the US's fitness and depth and the US pull off a shocker; 2) Germany wins their first two matches and "rests" some of their top-choice players after they've already clinched a berth in the knockout stage.

Either way, at a win is important against Ghana, but a loss is devastating and essentially back-breaking.  The US can still go through with a tie against Ghana, but that will make things extremely tough.

jeremytwoface's picture

Germany doesn't have that many injuries... Khedira might not make the 23 man roster because of injury and Mario Gomez didn't even make the 30 man roster, but they still have some of the best players in the entire world...... Lahm, Neuer, Gotze, Reus, Schweinsteiger, Boatang... I could keep going but I don't want to have too many nightmares...

All of those players are in great form. Lahm and Neuer are a little banged up but I'm pretty sure it's just some bruises and such... Not going to keep them off the pitch. And even at like 80%, they are better than anyone on the US roster. It's scary to think about lol.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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OldColumbusTown's picture

Believe me, I don't disagree about Germany's talent level.  And, I haven't read into so much detail about the injuries other than mainly headlines.  But, sounds like Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Neuer, and some others are a little banged up at the moment.  Could be hyperbole, which is somewhat common before World Cups for the German side, but they've already lost some other guys to injury (Gomez, like you mentioned, as well as Lars Bender, Sven Bender, Gundogan).

I'm grasping at straws here to keep up the hope that the US could pull off a shocker, but it's honestly beat Ghana or bust.  A win there, along with hope of a bit of a Portuguese collapse is the US's best shot to advance.  Definitely can't count on getting any points from Germany.

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jeremytwoface's picture

Yeah.... Since Germany is the last game in the group, they will know what they have to do to get through. Hopefully that will motivate them to play well.... Actually, hopefully at that point they will know they can get through no matter what.

A man can dream.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

A lesser US team beat a better Portugal team in 2002.  I like this year's squad over Cristiano Ronaldo and the 10 guys who are not Ronaldo.  I'm more worried about Ghana, and outside Brazil, I like Germany to win the whole thing.

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William's picture

Wondolowski has 43 goals the past three years, it's not as if Donovan brings so much more, or more at all, to the table than him. I also understand the inclusion of Brad Davis, he's a set-piece specialist. Donovan's biggest issue is that he can't play 30 minutes all out anymore, let alone 90. He's played over 100 more matches in his professional career than Beasley, yet they've both been in professional soccer since 1999, his body is breaking down. Donovan has the skill/smarts to make an impact, but he doesn't have the speed or fitness to stay on the field, which was always his greatest asset. He's past his prime, and if Klinsmann thinks the team is better off without him, so be it. 

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jeremytwoface's picture

My thought is this.... 

I don't see Brad Davis seeing the field much at all and if he does, it would only be for maybe 20 minutes at the most. In my opinion, Donovan > Davis in every aspect of the game except for endurance. But I guess that is not Jurgen's opinion lol... and his is the one that matters.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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William's picture

It all depends on how Klinsmann plans on using a player. Donovan wouldn't have been a starter on this squad, and if Klinsmann is looking for a sub to spark play for 20 minutes or less, I can understand why he'd choose Davis over Donovan. Also Davis has started in 2 of the U.S.'s 3 friendlies this year, and is not only great on set pieces, he can play longer than Donovan. I'm not going to deny that Donovan is more skilled, because he is, but Davis is in better shape, and he provides the team with a serious weapon on set pieces. 

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Seattle Linga's picture

Wondo positions himself to be in the right place at the right time for the better portion of the last three years. His development has been unbelievable.

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Bolt's picture

Why is it a joke to have Wondo there instead of Lando? Wondo is as good as we have at our disposal as a late game sub coming in cold and causing stress in front of the net. That's what I see as his niche with this team and is probably the best we have at our disposal at poaching goals. Wondo has played significantly better than Lando over the last couple years both at club level and international. Wondo is also in much better form right now than Donovan is. Personally, I'd have a hard time leaving Lando off in favor of Wondo...but you can't really call it a joke. Don't think they'll have much issue with Gahanna anyway ;-)

Jurgen must've sold his soul a bit to get Green in the red, white and blue and guaranteed him a spot on the WC roster. I'm not terribly against it but I'd have to assume Donovan could bring more to the table for this team this year since I assume both would just be benchwarmers for this team. Jurgen probably also considered is Lando going to be okay with sitting the bench as much as he'd have to and that it'd be a lightning rod of criticism after every single match when Donovan plays sparingly if at all in these games. At least now he can get it all out of the way out ahead of the tournament. Give the 18 year old a chance to see the grand stage and get a taste for it.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

I get the decision.  I don't like the decision, and I'm far from convinced it's the right decision.  Donovan is still good enough to help this team, and he deserved better. 

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William's picture

He didn't deserve anything. The guy took off time from the national team, you can't do that, play like hot mess for the last 10 months, and expect to make the national team, I don't care what he did back in 2002 or 2010. 

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Ahh Saturday's picture

10 months ago Donovan led the US to a Gold Cup championship.  Do you care what he did in 2013?  Donovan makes the US a better squad.

William's picture

His play has gone off a cliff since the Gold Cup, it has literally gone into the Mariana Trench. Also, it's the Gold Cup, teams, including the U.S., were trotting out B-level rosters. Donovan has 2 assists so far into the MLS season, that's just turrible. He's out of shape, and breaking down. He is hands down the greatest player in U.S. soccer history, but that doesn't mean he deserved a spot on this year's roster. 

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rosycheeks's picture

Love the educated soccer discussion on 11W! I had no idea! USA!!!

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rosycheeks's picture

And FWIW, a World Cup without Donovan makes me feel really old and makes me just a little less excited about it, but I'm still pumped.

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OldColumbusTown's picture

Couldn't agree more.  I'm personally disappointed for LD and it's hard to let go of the memories he's provided to US Soccer fans over the last decade plus.  Hard to swallow that he won't be involved in this WC and it brings down my excitement level slightly, yet I'm about as excited as humanly possible for this Cup.  The US with zero expectations = a very, very dangerous side...

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DJ Byrnes's picture

We're going to get throttled regardless, might as well blood some of the young guys. I'm 100% in support of Klinsmann.

Oh, and then there was this:

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William's picture

Throttled? I don't know about that. They don't stand a chance against Germany, but they can beat Ghana, and Portugal is as mercurial as any team in soccer, one second they look like world-beaters, and the next they look like hot garbage. The U.S. doesn't have an easy road, but I wouldn't say they're going to get throttled. 

DJ Byrnes's picture

Look at our midfield and backline.

We're going to get throttled.

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William's picture

Outside of Prince-Boateng and Essien, there isn't a single player on Ghana's roster that is better at their position than on the U.S.'s roster. Portugal has a much better roster with guys like Almeida and Coentrão on their backline (nearly all of their other defenders are over the hill like Pepe, Costa and Alves), and Moutinho, Meireles, Ronaldo, Postiga and Nani (who has been awful of late) making up their midfield/forward corps. The Portuguese have more talent than the Americans or Ghanaians, but they're an extremely inconsistent squad. I won't touch Germany, because that roster is flat-out loaded. Like I said, the U.S. has a tough road, but I don't see them being throttled. 

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DJ Byrnes's picture

I guess I'm higher on Ghana than you are, especially given they just seem to be our daddy when it comes to these things. Ronaldo against our backline gives me tremors. Germany... yeah it'd take a miracle.

I guess we'll see what Klinnsman has cooking in his kitchen. I hope I'm dead wrong.

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Buckabroad's picture

I agree with you that it will be hard, but maybe not impossible. Klinsmann is respected here in Germany and many feel he is taking a similar appraoch to what he did with the German team in the 2006 World Cup. Klinsmann likes to have his players buy into his system fully and he feels he can mold younger players more than established ones. Also, he seems to like talented players that are relatively unknown to opposing coaches. Julian Green fits that bill. He is a young player with experience in Bayern Munich's 2nd team. He understands German soccer well (and even played in Germany's youth national team) and has played in Europe basically his whole life.

Will Klinsmann's strategy work? Who knows, but I like the appraoch. The USA is more likely to make noise with unpredictability and intensity than with having more experience on the team.

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BuckeyeVet's picture

D.J. - Yeah I had just seen this an hour ago. Extremely poor taste, even for a teenager. And this raises the narrative again that the Klinsmann household never had much regard for Donovan, and makes it harder for Klinsmann to put that rumor to rest. I always had the feeling that JK had given Donovan a second chance after their mis-fire at Bayern Munich. And then when LD took that 3 month sabbatical during WC qualifying (and we lost to Honduras), I think JK just felt that he couldn't count on him.

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Deadly Nuts's picture

IMO it was essential to get Green on the team so he doesn't end up with Germany in 2018.

LEBRON

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OldColumbusTown's picture

Green has already made his FIFA-allowed and enforced one time switch.  He played in some youth tournaments for Germany (which "tied" him to Germany's national team) meaning he had to file with FIFA in order to be eligible to play for the US.  Now that he has done so, he cannot switch back ever again.  He's now as American as you or me in the eyes of FIFA, and that won't ever change.

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jeremytwoface's picture

Exactly. He can't switch back.

It's still good to get him on this roster for the experience. He will theoretically be in his prime come 2018 and with a World Cup already under his belt, he could be special. Or he could be another Freddy Adu. Let's hope for the former

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

johnblairgobucks's picture

When players stop getting carried off the field on stretchers and then come back in the game..... i may watch soccer, until then too many hurtin buckaroos faking for cards, to watch .

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William's picture

Because only soccer players dive. 

 

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B1G_Deal's picture

Thought this Osu football blog friends

Soccer the womanly sport

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sivaDavis's picture

No this is an all around OSU site, not just football. If you don't wanna read about soccer or other sports you shouldn't venture into a thread in the "other sports" section of the forums. 

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B1G_Deal's picture

Maybe u should nt bark up wrong trees. Friend

Facts remain this soccer is for the woman ,, its not something people anticipate with there channel changers

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jeremytwoface's picture

So much wrong with this sentence. From the misspellings and grammar mistakes (i.e. "its" instead of "it's" and "there" instead of "their") to the obvious sexism....... 

You're not going to last much longer here "friend".

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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jamesrbrown322's picture

"Honey, where's the channel changer?"

I didn't know anyone called it that anymore...

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

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sivaDavis's picture

Donovan isn't the player he was 4 years ago, we can all agree on that. If you watch him play, he just looks slow, like he is breaking down and can compete with the younger crop of players anymore. He is the greatest player in USA history but times change, people's careers start to catch up with them and Jurgen must have seen that. You have to remember that he is a great player but maybe not the right fit for what Klinsmann wants to run and go with. Leaving him off is very gutsy. We have to remember as well he didn't help USMNT qualify and never really gelled with Klinsmann. I think the move is a good one, Julian Green should be really damn good and I'm excited for this year. I think the youth will surprise some people this year and for years to come.

 

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NUTTYONE's picture

Do we really need 3 goalies?  There is a spot for him

OldColumbusTown's picture

It's a FIFA rule for the World Cup - you have to take three keepers on your roster.

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DJ Byrnes's picture

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Killed it.

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B1G_Deal's picture

My penis artwork

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BucksfanXC's picture

I will say that Donovan isn't what he used to be. But he is still very valuable to this team. His experience and leadership alone. Donvan coming in at the 80th minute of a close game would have been huge. I see this as a battle of wills with Klinnsman and the team. His way or the highway and he has a two-cycle contract so he's got power to upset some people now for the benefit of the future. He has the ability to change the course of American soccer and make us a World Cup contender and I'll follow his judgment on this one, I guess.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

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OldColumbusTown's picture

Agreed.  I think Klinnsy having a "guaranteed" extra cycle helped him make this decision to leave LD off the final 23.

Also agree that Donovan is still valuable to this team.  Some are upset about Julian Green, John Brooks, Deandre Yedlin, etc. being on the team over Landon because of their youth and the fact they probably won't see more than a few garbage time minutes in this Cup.  However, I'm fine with having a few guys gain some experience and learning from some of the more veteran players.  Yet, who is maybe the most veteran player they can learn from and go to for advice?  That's right, good ol' Mr. Donovan.  To a man, every player insists Landon is a great teammate, causes no commotion, is extremely humble, and would not be any sort of distraction even with reduced playing time.

My issue with the roster is a Brad Davis over Landon, because they both give you the same thing - a man off the bench who can create some chances when you need a goal - yet you cannot compare them as players.  I've never been impressed with Davis, and I don't see how being a left-footed free kick specialist has any bearing on this team.  What are the chances he'll even get a free kick opportunity?  Does anyone truly believe in a do or die situation, you'd pick Davis over Donovan?  They are the same age, give you the same thing out on the field (essentially), yet one has proven himself on the largest of stages and is a proven resource for those younger guys Jurgen wants to develop.  This one is hard for me to fathom.

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Bolt's picture

Landon got omitted because he's exclusively a forward in Jurgen's tactics. He's also the 5th best forward we have right now. You can only take so many forwards on a 23 man roster. And if we're talking bringing guys on in the 80th to try and poach a goal, Wondo is as good as we have at our disposal right now including Lando...and that's just true. Jurgen realized it (it's not that hard to figure out) and it's what he gets paid all kinds of money to realize. Wondo is the player that beat Lando out for the 4th forward spot and effectively knocked him off this team...all the other guys (ie - Davis) don't matter because Lando wasn't going to be playing anything below forward or CAM in a 4-2-2 at this phase in his career and I don't see Bradley leaving the pitch for a minute this WC. Lando just doesn't have the ability anymore to continuously run the way a mid guy out on the sides would in a 1-2-1 midfield otherwise.

jamesrbrown322's picture

I admire Donovan. And while he has given a lot to US Soccer, and increased the branding and marketability, he just isn't what he once was. While he has indeed been successful in international competition, I wholeheartedly believe that anyone who watches enough, and played enough, soccer, knows he's probably not truly the greatest American soccer player of all time.

I think that honor is a competition between two of his teammates who ARE going to Brazil. I would like to have seen him go one more time, just because of his significance and legacy. There are fringe soccer fans who really only knew him, and no one else on the team, who may now not watch as much.

This squad was always going to have a difficult time enjoying any success in the group that they drew. So, with this decision there will inevitably be angst among Donovan supporters who will unleash their fury on Klinsmann after the Cup. However, the difference between Germany, Portugal, Ghana, and the U.S. is not simply a 32 year old midfielder.

I will always look back at the rise of US Soccer, which hopefully continues, and remember how much Donovan, Howard, Bradley, and Dempsey have done for the team. They have proven themselves abroad, especially Dempsey and Howard, as well as in international competition. This truly has been a golden era, and hope that 20 years from now, I look back and say, "boy I thought that was the golden era, but I was wrong, because NOW is the golden era because of what those guys did back then." Either way, it has been wonderful watching Donovan.

His goal against Algeria was my second favorite moment as a sports fan, next to the final play of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl of course!

GOAL!

 

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jeremytwoface's picture

I agree about the Algeria goal... That gif you posted there is from the last Dos a Cero...

Here's the whole Algeria goal.....

 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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jamesrbrown322's picture

Thanks.

I just wanted to stick it to Mexico...you know that country that's pissed because they've been focused on being better than us for a century, and we've only cared for 20 years, yet have already surpassed them!

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

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jamesrbrown322's picture

The many working parts of this goal are what made it so beautiful - Howard's throw is PERFECT, hitting Donovan in stride, Altidore's cross is right on target, Dempsey runs on to the ball with authority and gets just enough of a touch to jar it loose, and just like our pee-wee coaches taught us, Donovan trails the play, and cleans it up! It is simply effort and athleticism at it's finest. A buzzer beater in soccer almost never happens. What a beautiful team effort from my four all-time favorite US Soccer players!

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

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jeremytwoface's picture

Yeah without Howard's throw, this play doesn't happen.

Also, Donovan's pass to lead Altidore was pretty spot on as well... And he had the awareness to follow up that awesome pass with a run into the box to clean up the play and score the goal. That's why I think he should be on the roster. But what do I know.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

+2 HS
DJ Byrnes's picture

I was at this Dos A Cero... goal happened right in front of me. Ahhhhhhh what a night; best sporting event to which I've ever been.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

jeremytwoface's picture

Lucky....

I applied for tickets but didn't get chosen in the weird lottery thing they did. I was freaking out at home though.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

BuckeyeVet's picture

Agreed, D.J.   I had seats at the center circle, 15 rows up, Crew home side of the stadium. What a fabulous night. I have the good fortune to have been to ALL 4 "Dos A Cero" games. Mexico has the special place of hatred in my heart, closely behind UM.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

jeremytwoface's picture

 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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route4buckeye's picture

wah i have a differing opinion wahhh

-10 HS
jeremytwoface's picture

It's not the fact that you have a differing opinion...

It's the fact that you took the time to click on a thread that was clearly about soccer just to declare how much you don't like soccer.

 

That's like me going into Red Lobster to tell them I don't like sea food.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

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route4buckeye's picture

I have a right to do that. I hate seafood, too.

-4 HS
jeremytwoface's picture

Of course you have a right....

You have a right to go to the NAACP Convention and say that you hate black people but that doesn't mean you should do it.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

FloridaBuck's picture

You suck.  Just my opinion.

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FloridaBuck's picture

Eh, at least you have a good sense of humor 

Jeeves's picture

With Donovan US draws Ghana, loses to Portugal, loses to Germany, 1 goal, 1 point. Without Donovan same results. I wish I could be more optimistic but will be up for the Cup regardless.

+1 HS