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Joel Hale moving to offensive line?

HotSauceCommittee's picture
February 14, 2014 at 8:33pm
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buckguyfan1's picture

I think he might not be the only one over next year to move from DL to OL. 

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Don't be surprised if this move is only for the spring. There are only 11 scholarship OL (including 2 freshmen) & some of those are recovering from injuries. It'll be tough running two full offenses without additional bodies.

southbay's picture

I would be surprised, because I think it's a good idea and Hale will do what it takes to learn the new position (presumably OG).  So no  disrespect intended, but I hope you're wrong.  Even if he doesn't start, perhaps the O line group could benefit from having another senior with substantial experience on the field.

Colerain 2004 G.O.A.T.'s picture

Michael Hill

I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall.~~Lil Wayne

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Colerain 2004 G.O.A.T.'s picture

This is a good sign in my opinion. While Lutefisk nailed it with the lack of depth along the oline this is a sign of bigger and better things going on behind the scene. Michael Bennett might be a All-American candidate next year at the DT position. Schutt is only getting better and A. Washington will now be playing the position full time. The guy that Im not mentioning is the guy that is going to be the best of this positional group and that is Michael Hill. Crazy talk you say? I would have said the same thing If somebody listed a kid that only has 1 career tackle to his name. I seen the kid in person and I feel very confident in his abilities under the guidance of Larry Johnson sr. Maybe take a cliff note from the ozone here  and MARK IT DOWN.

I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall.~~Lil Wayne

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Crimson's picture

If you're going to post that many times in a row, don't.  Make a blog post or something.

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Colerain 2004 G.O.A.T.'s picture

I apologize. I didn't mean to ruin your thread buddy.I got a tad over excited.

I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall.~~Lil Wayne

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Colerain 2004 G.O.A.T.'s picture

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Overview: U.S. Army All-America Bowl invitee Michael Hill announced in June 2012 that he was committing to Ohio State, the school that has been his favorite since he was a youngster ... a consensus four-star prospect by (ESPN, 247Sports, Scout, Rivals) and one of the Top 20 defensive tackles in the nation by Scout (No. 16) ... listed on the ESPN 300 (216) ... named to the South Carolina Shrine Bowl this year and the No. 6 player in the state by 247Sports, Hill had an unfortunate end to his senior season, injuring a hand in the eighth game and missing the remainder of the season and all post-season all-star games ... Pendleton finished 8-4 on the year ... Hill was dominant as a junior while playing in the middle of Pendleton's line for coach Paul Sutherland ... he recorded 25 tackles-for-losses and 81 total tackles despite persistent double-teams against him ... he also had six sacks as a junior and had four as a senior before his injury ... he is the son of Dianne Blount and Michael Hill, Sr.

Here is Hills overview from the official tOSU website: Below is highlight film of ONE game Hill played in. Take into account the double teams he faced then judge for yourself the impact he had on this ONE game alone.And keep in mind this is tape of a 305 lbs 17 year old kid.

I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall.~~Lil Wayne

Colerain 2004 G.O.A.T.'s picture

 

I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall.~~Lil Wayne

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Colerain 2004 G.O.A.T.'s picture

Junior highlight jam session.

 

I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall.~~Lil Wayne

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Colerain 2004 G.O.A.T.'s picture

~~Another week has come and gone, and we're rolling on with our 2013 recruiting profiles. Today, we take a look at DT Michael Hill from Pendleton, SC. As we hit 88 mph in our Scarlet and Gray DeLorean (yes, I know it's stainless steel, but we're splitting hairs on that when we're talking time travel in a DeLorean) a definite trend has developed with this group--great players, solid character, with generally a low drama recruitment. Hill fits all of those traits, but he also adds another one that is new to Ohio State recruiting under Urban Meyer, and that is talent coming from places that aren't generally considered traditional recruiting hotbeds for Ohio State. So let's take a look at how the first South Carolina recruit since Aram Olson found his way to Columbus.

Vitals:

Ht: 6'3"

Wt: 315

40 yd dash: Three technique DT's don't run 40's, son. They plug holes and eat people.

High School: Pendleton High School, Pendleton, SC

Origin Story:

Michael Hill's story is a pretty straight forward one, but one that had a little twist, thanks to 24 cable sports access. Hill, from Pendleton, SC, became one of the top ranked players not only in his state, but in the country (#2 player in the state of SC, #15 ranked DT in the country via 247 composite rankings). When a kid comes from a state that has not one, but two, national powers in it (Clemson and South Carolina ain't no power PAAAAAWWWWWLLL), and that recruit is one of the top ranked players in the state, it's generally assumed that a kid like Hill would go to either Clemson or South Carolina.

But both Dabo Swinney and the Ol' Ball Coach had a lot of competition, not only from Ohio State, but Alabama, Florida, Georgia Tech, and Michigan. They all pursued Hill hard, but Ohio Sate had a surprising advantage: Hill grew up an Ohio State fan, thanks in large part to modern day cable sports that made watching the Buckeyes on a weekly basis a fairly simple thing. And although the home state schools were recruiting him hard, Hill says his commitment to the Buckeyes seemed like a natural choice:

I visited Ohio State as soon as I got out of school last summer and they really stood out. I visited Tennessee, South Carolina, LSU, Florida, and Alabama in that same span, but I kept thinking about Ohio State. I just knew that was the school I needed to commit to.

First, it was Urban Meyer. He is a great coach and he really showed me how things were going to be if I came up there with him. A lot of things stood out to me when I was up there visiting too. It is a big college campus, but it is a tight community up there. I really liked that. I also like how they are strong in Finance because that is what I am looking to major in. I just seemed to fit in there and that is what is most important to me.

After being named to the Shrine Bowl and the Army All-American Bowl, Hill's season was cut short due to a torn ligament in his hand. Although it didn't affect his recruitment or scholarship to Ohio State, the injury did keep him out of the two all star games. And it came to symbolize, in many respects, Pendleton's season--an immensely talented team that was hamstrung with key injuries all year. And although his senior year was cut short, Hill had surgery on his finger, and it had healed well. There are no medical restrictions on Hill, and the injury should be no problem moving forward.

2013 Prospectus:

Four things are playing into Michael's chances to play early and often in 2013--Meyer's abhorrence to use the redshirt unless it's a medical necessity, his immense talent, both interior defensive linemen from last year, Garrett Goebel and Jonathan Hankins have graduated, and there isn't a lot of depth at defensive tackle. Had Hill been in the class of 2012, he would've been one of the heralded defensive linemen that came in with that class, right along with Noah Spence, Adolphus Washington, and Tommy Schutt. And with so much focus on the skill players in the 2013 class, it would be easy for the casual fan to overlook Michael Hill.

And that would be a mistake for said casual fan.

When you watch Hill on tape, you notice he has an exceptional first step, which gives him an advantage over the offensive lineman opposing him. He also has very good balance for a guy of his size, and uses it to his advantage when coming off the block after initial contact. When he is met head on by a lineman, he possesses above average upper body strength, and does a very good job to move his opponent to where he wants to go, shed him, and make the tackle.

When he does win the position and leverage battle (Science AND Physics, people), Hill can now dictate what he wants to do in terms of whether to bull rush, use a swim move, etc., and forces his opponent to react to what he is doing. In that situation, Hill wins those battles. His size, along with his speed, will almost have to force the offensive line to double team him on a regular basis, which means OSU opponents will find themselves in the unenviable task of making what I hope will be a Sophie's Choice for them--see if their the interior line can go one on one with Hill, or give Noah Spence and/or Adolphus Washington a one on one situation coming from the end.

Good luck with that.

Here is another nice little piece on Hill. From landgrantholyland.com

 

I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall.~~Lil Wayne

Jordan Wagner's picture

I can confirm that Joel Hale has been working with the offensive line all offseason. 

southbay's picture

Not exactly the same as when Reid Fragel moved from TE to OT, but similar, and maybe it will turn out just as well.  I had my doubts about Fragel but he did very well.

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villagebuckeye's picture

What about Chase Farris?  Has he made the switch also?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seattle Linga's picture

Urbs will do what he needs to do to make sure this team is well prepared. Sometimes changing from one line to the other can be a very good thing in the long run!!!!!!!!

Stellar's picture

Seems odd that they would move a Senior returning starter to the other side of the ball unless they expect him to start on the offensive line.  If they were just looking for bodies and added competition why not move Chase Farris back to OL. He was getting strong reviews at OL before they had to move hi over to DL last year for depth purposes. 

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Typically it would be because a senior starter doesn't need the additional reps on D. He could make the move as a temporary measure without hurting his progress.

I'm not saying that is definitely what is happening, just outlining the reasoning behind it; having seen it done in the past.

Kid Gloves's picture

With so much versatility - it's a nice luxury to have