PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
I haven't read any info on JT Barrett. Just curious how he's doing? Seems like a great young man and I hope his knee is doing well.
Been running scout team I'm guessing we'll know more in the spring
Odds on favorite to be the starter next year if Braxton goes pro.
Is this more of a statement about J.T. Barrett or Cardale Jones?
JT is just a better quarterback.
What's the likihood of Braxton going pro? It may be me but I don't think his game translates very well for the pros. He's best suited to get his degree.
I do think if kids are a sure first or second rounder, they should bolt. However I don't think Braxton will be there this year or next year.
IMO it would be a huge mistake for him to go pro after this year. This draft class is really deep at QB and he can still work on his game more and improve his draft stock drastically. Perhaps if he is really worried about getting injured or desperately needs the money now he could leave, but he would be giving up a lot of money by not waiting and getting drafted higher.
The odds of Braxton leaving after this year have increased considerably since Braxton has become a father.
So two years ago?
I have been hearing it is basically a forgone conclusion that he is entering the draft.
From his brothers daughters next door neighbors second cousin who once watched a game he played in 7th grade. Don't worry its legit.
i've always figured braxton as more of a receiver in the NFL but i hope he can get it done at the QB position
No offense....but no way in hell does Braxton go pro. If he knows what's good for him, he better stay. He's not ready to be an NFL QB. An athlete in the NFL he's ready for but not a QB.
Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.
I agree, he is not close to being NFL ready. He'll be back.
If he did not have a kid I would agree with you but since he has one he has to be thinking about it.
"I'm not going to lie. We're anxious to be a part of a matchup like that. It's two states that love the game of football." -Jim Tressel
Come on Jeremy.., is that a serious statement about Miller going pro? The kid has been doing great, but I really don't see it happening. Aside from needing another year of on the field maturity he is only now coming into his own as a leader and dealing with the big spotlight. Think he needs another year to work up to the pro level hype and commotion. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Miller and know he will do great things but think he will really take off with another year of maturing.
Recently? I couldn't think of any, other than he will likely redshirt? All I've heard about him is that he is a great leader already, for being a freshman, his focus is through the roof and he will be a leader on this team in the future, no doubt. He commands respect. From what I've heard, he is tailor made for the offense. His ACL injury was about a year ago so I don't really think there is a problem there. His passing accuracy from watching tape is great and his vision while scrambling makes him that great dual threat. I think we will see ALOT of him next year. Being able to redshirt and develop behind Braxton is obviously a plus. I'm excited for his career to start, seems like a great kid. Hope this helped.
"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good. That's just way it is." - Woody Hayes
I think Urban&Co. (possibly with a new offensive coordinator) have him ready to go. It will be an uphill battle though with a redshirt freshman quarterback coming off an injury and 4 new starters on the offensive line.
Are you assuming that Braxton is off to the NFL? I sure hope not.
Then again, the way he's throwing bullets lately, that has to be a possibility now...
I don't think Braxton is ready to make the jump to the NFL yet. Another year and he could probably be 1st to 2nd round pick. Not to mention he can finish up his college education.
Call me crazy, but I think if Braxton comes back and stays healthy he wins the Heisman. Scarlet colored glasses maybe, and Winston will likely be in the running as long as his line stays (minus his center obviously) but he's looked unreal the last couple of weeks.
And I think his game translates just fine, Mike Vick runs around makes people miss and gets hurt, everyone knew it, and they gave him 100 million dollars. Braxtons never fought any dogs that we know of, and is generally likeable. Must be worth at least 200 mil.
The only part I was serious about in that second stanza was the game translating (and the dog part I guess) but if he keeps playing how he has been, his game looks just fine.
I believe Braxton will go pro.
Anything other than a hunch here? It makes sense financially -- him having a kid and all -- but I think he'll be behind a wad of quarterbacks in a very deep draft class this year. Gotta think that Roby's decision to stay -- and subsequent possible damage to his stock -- will factor in a good amount, too.
I can appreciate his situation influencing his decision, but what do you think his draft grade will be during bowl preparation? I looks like he'd be behind at least 10 QB's going into the draft. Of course the fan in me wants him to stay, but the rational person in me wants him to make the right decision and right now it looks like he'd be on the outside looking in.
With the rookie pay scale the way it is, Braxton doesn't stand to make a great deal more money by improving from, say, a 5th round QB draft pick to a 3rd round pick. Maybe $1 million more over the four-year contract (which would pretty much be made up by playing an extra year). The chances he makes the jump into the first or second round are less likely (in my opinion) than the chances of his draft stocking falling for any number of reasons (Barkley, Lattimore, Clowney, Lewan, etc.). I think he'll go and I'll be happy to have enjoyed his three years.
Come on, Birm. We potentially go 26-0 and don't win a championship, but have big time high hopes with Brax coming back. Don't bring this up now.
I think he comes back for his senior year. This draft is extremely deep with Mariota, Bridgewater, Mettenberger, McCarron, Manziel, Hundley, Petty, and Boyd.
My only concern is that he knows the line might have challenges next year and is worried about getting hurt, or putting up bad stats. I think it'll be a mistake on his part, but I'll welcome the JT Barrett era just the same.
Great to hear JT is looking good enough to start next year if Brax leaves early. Somebody get us some film on him running the scout team offense. I was wondering if the knee healed. I hope Braxton stays but the decision is his to make. I am comfortable with the coaching staff that is more than likely giving him advice on the subject. I just dont want to ever see a Pete Carol/Mark Sanchez moment at tOSU.
Can Maziel and Winston declare as well? Can't remember the rule.... If so, that might open next year up.
Manziel can. Winston still has another year before he can.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
This is correct. I believe the rule is a player must be 3 years removed from high school (i.e., Winston is currently a redshirt freshman).
I could never blame young people for making the leap before they are ready because I know it would be hard to make the right choice if I was in that situation.
I really just think that Braxton could make himself a lot of money if he came back next year. This year could be arguably one of the strongest QB classes, and maybe stronger than 2012 draft (at least in terms of #of QB's taken). I would love to see him get another offseason with this staff, and come out next year playing an entire healthy season like he has the past month or so. If he were to do that, I think he could get in the first round in '15 draft. I am excited to see what kind of NFL Draft Combine numbers he can put up though.
It's a tough decision. Where would Braxton end up if he made the jump?
3rd round? There's pretty clearly 4 qb's (mariotta, boyd, manziel, bridgewater) ahead of him, not to mention some other mid round qb types (mccarron, murray, hundley) He's a crazy good athlete, and I think he can make all the throws, but he hasn't shown consistency in the passing game and might be an injury risk. I think another year in college would be good for him his draft status, and our team (it will be alot easier to replace 4 multi-year starters on o-line without breaking a new qb as well) but I don't think he stays.
As a parent giving advice to a young parent, sure the NFL money sounds great, but let's say you receive a career ending injury in your first year..now u have no job, or degree to fall back on..stay one more year, get that degree because the NFL isn't guaranteed..
Doesn't OSU allow former players to come back and work on their degree? If he were to suffer an injury, (which I suspect would be more likely to happen at OSU, as he would be playing every snap versus in the NFL where I think he is a back-up to start his career) he would still have pocketed the 500K-1M salary that goes with being a backup QB in the NFL. I think he would have a tough time making that type of money outside of football.
Not sayin he would agree, this is just my opinion..
You can get your degree at any point in life. Small window to play in the league.
Next year could be a little sketchy if XBrax enters the draft. Green QB and rebuilt O-Line...? College Football Playoff came one year too late.
Not knocking JT btw, I'm very excited to have him, just cautiously optimistic about next year.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
I think the key for next year is gonna start in the trenches. How does tOSU rebuild their offensive line?
How? Much better than UM has done this year, I am sure.
It will be interesting to watch. You have to assume we get a JuCo transfer who will start right away and you have a very good returning tackle in Decker. Luckily we have a head coach and an Oline coach who are both extremely good at what they do - remember all of the talk about how weak the right tackle position was in the spring? We will certainly be young on the line but I have a feeling that it will still be a very good unit and it will prove to all of the UM fans that you can have a good, young Oline with the right coaching and development.
From what I read in an article about the QB class, the only thing McShay said was that he had a "draftable grade." He's too good of an athlete with upside to not go mid-round I'd imagine. And lets face it, he's 10x the passer that Pryor was as a junior.....and he's now starting!
Pryor was a different kind of athlete though, bigger stronger, less injuries.
I love watching Braxton run don't get me wrong, but there's just something about watching your qb stiff arm a lb to the ground and keep running down the sidelines.
He still stiff arms LBs in the NFL...
Braxton is quiet and humble but he's also not overly self confident which is actually refreshing...I think he knows he has a ways to go to be NFL ready. I think he comes back and builds on his throwing and confidence.
I just don't see Braxton getting a good review from NFL scouts because of injury concerns. In my opinion, the concerns on Braxton are far worse than say, Michael Vick.
Braxton next year,2014
2015: the JT Barret show, he will have 2 years under his belt to learn urban's system and will be ready to ball out.
Depth will be solid:
down the road:
the show must go on, when braxton moves on!!
lets go bucks!!
Did you intentionally leave out CJ?
I really want to see Cardale get to play some meaningful time. Dude is a specimen.
The postgame show is brought to you by... Christ, I can't find it. The hell with it...
I'd like to see Cardale at RB. Nothing against his QB play, but I think he could a bruising tailback (just as Hyde is/has been).
That would be one tall running back
If JT does become the starter, I wouldn't be surprised to see Cardale used as a goal-line QB like Urban did with Tebow his freshman year and Oklahoma did with Blake Bell last season. It's hard not to like a 6'5" 250lb dumptruck on a QB power or jump pass inside the 5.
I'm gonna go ahead and mention how much we all will miss The Old Right Hander. Can't say enough about him.
No matter what Bowl we go to this year I hope to see KG sling it around and make some people look silly one last time.
If Brax leaves the entire offense will need to be revamped next year. New QB, four new OL starters, 2 new receivers (if Brax leaves I think Devin is goes as well), new starting RB not to mention a new kicker. What if we also lose Herman? I try VERY hard to be positive and I trust Urban Meyer, but damn, that's just too much to lose in one year. Let's all hope JT, Dontre, EzE and the new OL can get it done. D returns several starters but I would imagine we're also going to lose Shazier along with Roby, Barnett and maybe even Bennett.
THIS will be the tragedy of not getting into the NCG. We may not be this strong next year. I pray I'm proven wrong.
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.
Now that this is a "who's going pro?" thread, I wonder if Cameron Johnson will go pro.
I just don't see him declaring early. I feel like the Qb class is too deep this year and he could improve his draft stock a lot as a senior. Not to hate on Braxton but I just feel like hes a 3rd round or below draft choice at this point in the game.
I think that he has a chance to go higher than Mariota (who might not declare) and will definitely be higher than Manziel. The kid has been slinging it around pretty well lately. When you play the physical brand of football that Miller plays, injuries are always a concern, and even more so when your elusiveness is such a big part of your game. I still think that Cardale will be the number one when Braxton leaves.
So... you're saying Braxton, a non Heisman winner, has a chance to go before a Heisman winner and maybe the front runner for a Heisman this year? Not trying to be mean with this comment, take off the Ohio State blinders. While Braxton has better character issues, I would take Manziel over him and even Mariotta. As freshman they were both proven quarterbacks. Even Urban said it himself, as a freshman and even a sophomore, Miller was an athlete playing QB. Imagine if we had a guy like Mariotta, Winston, or Manziel. Guys who can read defenses right away.
NOt saying Miller is bad, the progression as been awesome and I argue with someone everyday about why hes a better quarterback than the past two years. But in no way will he be taken before Mariotta or Manziel, unless one of them breaks a leg/arm, especially with the seasons both Mariotta and Manziel are having. Manziel is having a better season than his freshman Heisman one.
I think part of it depends on what the team is looking for. If they want a proven college quarterback, they will want Mariota or Manziel. However, if they are looking for raw talent, Braxton could be the guy. Miller may have the strongest arm in the group, and is improving in the passing game every week. If potential is what they want, Miller has a chance to be ahead of those two on a draft board. However, if a team is desperate enough for a quarterback very early in the draft, I believe that they will take the proven college quarterback.
lol, you think Braxton is going before Mariota if he enters the draft? No way in hell that ever happens. Their draft positions won't even be close (one top 5-10, one early-mid round).
Braxton is one of my favorite Buckeyes of all time...but take the scarlet shades off.
It's benefit braxton for another sharp season under this system.
He is coming back to gain valuable QB skill sets and to win a National Title.
No Offensive line worries, have Lindsey , Decker, both TE and some very good back ups this year who were in the htick of things trying to earn spots this year!!! The O line will have a few growing pains in the first 3 games but after that watch out! Biggest loss is HYDE..
However, with EZE, Wilson, rod smith, both TE's, and Braxton escapablities, no regression on offense, except 3 and 1,,,,Hyde will be missed in those situations....
2014 Underfeated! National Champs!!
The only thing that might push Brax pro is the fact we are replacing almost the entire OL and the WR corps. And I think people who are saying he doesn't have a pro skill set are being a little lazy...I think he's a more athletic Roethlisberger type...He's plenty good to be drafted and be successful. He should probably stay, but would be hard to fault him. He'll be successful wherever he goes
agreed, he has enough skills now to enter the draft, but another year with the QB guru in the off season and another year learning under Myer sure will only increase his value and make him much sought after in the draft.... Another year brings him closer to where I think he wants to be going into an NFL draft. Also coming back next year, and providing a complete season under his belt with help with everything as well. Don't forget if he comes back it helps the entire team as a whole the younger QB's get another year to develop and become more skilled and the recruiting a future QB gets so more comfort zone as well, even though I believe JT will start another year of becoming more familiar and more grown up into that position he will be that much better off, and so will the team! It helps in recruiting and it helps national exposure as well.
I look forward to seeing Brax and Kenny wearing the Brown and Orange next season. I think they both go to the same team; Brax late 2nd round; Kenny as an undrafted free agent. Kenny has already shown that he can run the same system as Brax with just a little if any noticeable drop off. Obviously, Brax has MV experience running skills and a cannon for an arm but Kenny has the smarts to compensate and would be a great back-up to Brax.
I'd like to see more of CJ. He looks like a beast back there. I'd like to see him make some throws.
Wasn't that long ago when TP left, I thought "oh crap" and enter Braxton... life is good.
Not a bad run on QBs.
i think it's a disgrace people seem to forget someone that won us a national championship
You guys honestly think Braxton will go pro at the end of the year? I dont think so. He is just now mastering being a dual threat being able to pass the ball , He has always been able to run but his passing needed alot of improvement and still does. He is 10X better passer than last year but is he ready for the NFL. NO not in my opinion unless he switches to RB or something like Denard the retard. Plus i think Braxton wants to win a NCG and idk if we will get the chance this year.
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