The Ozone posted the offensive depth chart with player weights.... All the rbs seem to have put on about tens pounds... Cardale Jones is up to 241.... Vannett is up to 255.... I am sure this is all good weight
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I'm thinking that's good weight with an offseason under Mickey Marotti.
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It's typical this time of year in off season weight training to get as big as humanly possible then lean out through the summer before fall camp. Fully expect him around the 230 mark come August.
I'm all about good weight as long as it doesn't hurt elusiveness and speed.
I don't think Hyde is going to try and elude anyone...
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If it isn't good weight, one can rest assured Coach Mick will get it off....fast.
If it is planned weight for Hyde....good lord....imagine being a safety and seeing that come at you after your DLine and linebackers failed you miserably and let Hyde into the secondary un touched.
Coach Drayton can probably tell you what happens...
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
As much pain as Ron Dayne caused us back in the late 90s, I'd be okay with a clone in the scarlet and gray.
especially after seeing a much smaller faster guy.............whooooooooooooooo.here comes the hammer!!!!!
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at 240lbs, catching hesitant defenders trying to sift through OSU's read-zone offense, Hyde need be only as elusive as a bowling ball, to be highly effective.
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Great concept, but I'm offended by the color scheme. Surely someone can convert that to Scarlet and Gray.
You really should have announced your new icon in a forum topic...nah.
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No need for a new forum topic... just rehash that other one. I think everyone here knows what I'm talking about. Plus its Friday, sooner or later its going to make an appearance.
Nothing like dancing on the field in 02...
Cardale Jones at 241 lbs.? That sounds like JaMarcus Russell territory, even at 6'5".
EDIT: okay, just checked JaMarcus was around 265 in college, so not quite. 240 sounds big for a QB still.
Tebow, Luck, Pryor 240 of very close to it.
Yeah, I'm not sure why it jumped out for me. CJ might not even look bulky at that weight, given his height. JT Barrett is coming in at 6'1" 230 lbs.
There is no way that Barrett weighs 230 lbs.
I mean I saw him walking out of Central Classroom the other day and he isn't 230. 210-215 maybe.
The weight is ok as long as he doesn't lose his speed.
Dang, that boy is gonna bowl some boys over.
Man, Hyde is going to destroy people this year. As for Jones, looks like Cardale Jones plays football very well. I can only hope he plays schools just as well!
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He is off running so wouldn't be surprised if Barrett put on a little weight. Also not totally surprised have heard that he was well built, I think it's part of the reason he's got a lot of comparisons to Troy Smith who played around 220 in his own right.
If it's Alabama weight (i.e. human bowling ball), I'm good with it. Trent Richardson -- 5'9, 230. Eddie Lacy -- 5'11", 220. Mark Ingram -- 5'9", 215. So 6', 242 isn't outrageous by any means.
Lacy was definitely >220 at the end of the season...
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I agree with you for sure. I just didn't want anyone thinking I was exaggerating their weight to make a point so I went by ESPN & university profiles (which would be pre-season weigh-ins, and inexact at that).
Don't forget two years ago when TP was injured during the spring, Hyde ran the fastest 40 on the team. Speed and Power.
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I dont want to be a DB when hyde comes busting at them
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Give that man the football!
I feel like the days of a four year starting QB are about to end with Braxton. Meyer will attract too much talent and it will start to get REALLY competitive back there....which is a good thing. Assuming Braxton stays all four years, Cardale will get a shot as a JR/SR, Barrett Will get a shot SO/JR/SR and so on. I like that we're starting to get guys some experience and time with the coaches before throwing them to the wolves like we have been the last several years.
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I think Cardale's turn gets skipped. I have the impression that he's in Columbus because someone threw a bone to Ginn Sr.
His only shot is if Brax leaves after this year, and Barrett redshirts this year.
I got to see him and Braxton back to back against St. Ed's in 2010, and there was no comparison even then- Miller had that Huber Hts. team on his shoulders the whole game.
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Meh I say give Cardale a shot. He has different talents that could be exploited to keep other teams off balance. I want to see what the kid can do on the field.
who won the game ?
Ed's won both games, and went undefeated that year.
That said, Braxton almost won that game for Wayne- he threw a bomb in the fourth quarter that would have/should have been the go-ahead touchdown had the receiver not dropped it.
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That was 3(4 by the time Braxton leaves) years ago. A lot can change in that time period.
You make it seem like he was an unranked bum that Ohio State(JT) gave a scholarship to because of Ginn.
From what i've seen, CJ has all of the tools to succeed.
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Cardale was not a super-highly recruited player- if I recall, he was a 3* guy (not like that means anything), and there wasn't much interest outside of the Midwest. He was/is certainly not a bum, but his future in Columbus at the QB position is anything but clear.
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Well... Urban Meyer called Tom Herman the QB Guru, so I think the can develop Cardale. I'd like to see it where our QB is a redshirt sophomore or true junior each year. That gives each QB 2-3 years to prep their body and learn the system. That would be an ideal situation for me.
Jones very highly touted actually..far from getting a bone thrown his coaches way. 6'4" who can run and throw..doesn't sound like a "Bauserman" to me.
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I would have liked to have seen Hyde, and all the running backs come in at the same weights or lower than last year but with reduced body fat, more strength and quickness. All of our backs have good power but Urban is right when he says only Jordan Hall has the quickness to make you miss.
I'd love to weigh 242
Class of 2010.
Lose 50lbs and you will.
I kid.
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Anyone have any pics of him at spring practice?
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Think he can still run a sub-4.5 40?
Hey.. Whatever sounds good on paper.. In high school, during any sport we were made to sound bigger and more intimidating in the programs than we actually were..
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I actually heard Carlos Hyde slimmed down during the offseason so he must have a stronger physique with less body fat %. If he gained a few pounds, its all muscle and he still trimmed some fat. Cant wait to see pictures of this dude.
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Hyde is one of Urban's "guys".... That's good enough for me
Now, it might be as fun to watch him block as run, considering who will have the ball...#tank
Man, is that a load. He will run even harder this year to make a good impression for the next level. Can't wait.
All this talk about "Good Weight". I haven't seen Good Weight on me since College. LOL... Sign me up for the Marotti experience. If I live through it I might see some good weight again, instead of the belly weight I have been sporting....
Seriously, if Hyde is ripped and solid at 242, that will be a challenge to the LB's, and defensive backs even more so than last year. I like the power and the speed we have in our backfield and WR's. It should be fun to watch.
All these heights are weights are B.S. for the most part.
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I'm not sure about many here....but it is very possible to put on weight by gaining muscle (Duh). I do believe it's possible for many of these guys with 6'4-6'6 frames to put on 15-20 lbs in an offseason. Not sure why they're BS...sometimes they'll lie about weight loss or height in a program or what not. But not too sure why they'd falsify weight gain...??? Not to mention Hyde already weighted 235 last year...so he only put on 7 lbs...which isn't much. I can put that on in a weekend...if I eat too much;-)
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