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You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
This. And I'm not sure why this article makes you think you misjudged his parents? They just seem like parents that were concerned about their son throughout the recruiting process, not manipulative or controlling or trying to sway him one way or the other
Because I called his father a publicity hound in a thread leading up to signing day. I was wrong and that was not the case at all.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Ah gotcha, I thought this article made you like his family less. I thought the consensus on his dad leading up to signing day was pretty positive considering he brought the Kerry Combs pump up video to our computers. Didn't realize you thought poorly of him before
It wasn't I thought poorly of him, I thought the family was drawing this out to enjoy the spotlight when it seems there was some real concern EzE made a quick decision.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Absolutely - cutting and pasting whole stories is bad, bad form.
Not to mention it is hard to read because it pastes in a terrible format :-)
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
While this has become a downvote party, it cannot possibly be understated that it is unacceptable to cut and paste a story from a news source without - at the very least - a link included.
The best way to share this kind of info is essentially what the staff does with Buckshots: excerpts of a news story or blog post are highlighted as such, identified as to where they came from, at least via a link, and presented with relevant commentary.
For folks that didn't know that already, lesson learned, no harm no foul. If you're downvoting because you disagree that this is the right way to attribute other writers' work, there is something seriously wrong with your understanding of basic concepts like intellectual property, plagarism, etc.
(And I am not suggesting the OP was doing anything of the sort - but it is inappropriate to cut and paste stories in this fashion, as is clearly spelled out in the 11w comment policy as linked above.)
1. I have no clue what down voting is....guess I will have to read up on that.
2. Sorry about the entire article. Had some issue with the hyper link showing up. It has been corrected.
3. I have a degree in Journalism from Ohio State so I do understand the concept of intellectual property. This was not done with any intent to "plagerize" or anything else. I know you didn't suggest that, but I wanted to set the record straight before I get labeled or disciplined.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
It's all good man. I assumed you either had some issues or you weren't aware of the policy so I cut you some slack.
Thanks. Won't happen again.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Man what a guy, thanks for cutting him some slack.
^ LOL
Someone with a journalism degree should know how to spell plagiarise...especially if you are going to be putting quotations around it.
"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick
This is an online forum, not a huge article. Spelling mistakes happen, let them go. He's just apologizing for unintentionally breaking a rule.
Yep...I am such a horrible speller....especially on message boards. I did find it clever that you used the British spelling of the word...kudos to you.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Mayhaps they spell it differently where he is from, as I'm sure you can relate since you're obviously posting from Great Britain...
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Surely you jest...
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
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You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
Thanks. I appreciate the information. I have visited this site as a lurker for about a year. Find it is a source of good information with posters that seem to be respectful. Decided a few weeks ago to become active. Still learning all the in's and out's of how things are done.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Just always remember to ask yourself before you post..what would Ashley Schaeffer say in this situation?
No worries, and thanks for taking the indirect criticism in stride - hated to sound like I was "calling you out," which wasn't actually my intent, but to remind all of us not to play too loose with attribution. (Good to have a fellow journo on the board, though my sheepskin was in ag journalism.)
Welcome aboard!
I feel I may need to clarify this post. When I made it, the topic was a copy/paste of an entire article from the Dispatch. The topic author has since realized his mistake, and changed it to a link to the article. The original post is what I was commenting on, not the post as it currently stands.
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
I would imagine if we got more of a backstory on virtually any recruit we would realize how tough their process is. So often if someone stretches out their recruiting they get called a diva or likes to play the recruiting game (even Mike Mitchell was called a diva on this site at one point). Well there are likely other factors at play that we don't see. And that is why the Buckshot from this morning is so important to remember. These are kids making the biggest decision of their lives, it shouldn't be easy and it really shouldn't be surprising when they change their minds.
I like what the story had to say about UFM's disdain for the "average." Notwithstanding the athletic ability of this kid--obviously miles above "average"--it seems like EZE is also an above "average" person. I'm not sure if UFM has always recruited for character, but when you read the backstory on guys like Mitchell and Apple it seems like there are lots of reasons to celebrate this class, aside from its obvious wealth of talent.
Thanks for making my great state proud. Now get back to work!
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Interesting that the suspicion on the family's side started with the recruitment of Green, according to the article. They didn't really understand how the process works. Dontre Wilson's recruitment isn't mentioned but it might've just rekindled some of the Green concerns for them.
That is what stood out to me as well. I think they had to be assured that Wilson wasn't going to be brought in as another RB and once they were it made it an easy decision to stay a Buckeye.
pretty cool stufff ACTIONSTANJAX...thanks dude
It doesn't change my opinion of them beacuse we've long heard that he comes from a solid family. This wasn't a Davonte Neal or Seantrel Henderson Daddy issue. He has had and will continue to have a great support system in his family, who helped guide him and provide him the resources for their son to what was best for him.
I never once thought differently, and sad that you had negative feelings towards them.
"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick
i understand the above posts about the link....but thanks for sharing the article
The only thing that seems odd is comparing recruiting to engagement. OSU is bringing in 25 (or 24 this year) players, not just one. And spoiler alert, there will be multiple guys who can play a position. It's called depth and competition. But, it seems this was their first time going through the "new" era of recruiting as opposed to Mr. Elliott's experience in the '80's. I'm sure things were said or assured and then like he said rumors or rumblings to the contrary came out. Kind of interesting that apparently a reporter broke the story.
BTW, I think he pasted the whole article because of the Dispatch's limited views on online articles. Let's not kill him for it.
So basically recruiting is more like 'The Bachelor' with one dude dating 20 some women at the same time than a one sided engagement.
Except that the 20 some women are also dating 100 some other dudes.
The more ppl make threads like this...the more we can speculate who these
idiotspeople were who use different handles on twitter makingstupidignorant comments. Hmmm did this make anyone else think the same thing...??? Bc it sure did me....STOP TWEETING THESE KIDS NEGATIVITY and let the coaches handle recruiting. Sit back and enjoy the results...I'm not commenting on another one of these...pretty sure my opinion is known."There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
We, as a culture, jump to conclusion way too fast, before we have enough information.
"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
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There is a quote from the Dispatch article that I thought was awesome.
Reminds me of the All-Access program last year. That whole speech could be applied to anything you're doing in life. "Who wants to be average?? I don't want to coach average, I don't be around average...." That should be a mandatory video to watch before taking on every day.
So true. We all love to play this game.
That bottom right square makes no sense. Everyone knows that the word is MUTE.
vacuuming sucks
Even loosers know that!
Perhaps it means moot as in moot point.
The "Loose one turn" panel is making my right eye twitch. It's lose, not loose (like in not tight) dammit.
Aha Earle, didn't see your clever comment.
"The guy made a million dollars!"
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
Thanks for posting the article. It must be crazy having an elite football or basketball player being recruited like that.
This years recruiting was exciting and frustrating for sure! Alot of positive things happened, the only negative IMHO was the absence of a "MEG" this year!.............GOOD TIMES!
"Because I couldn't go for 3"