I just posted something about this under the Gibson thread... didn't feel like starting one so glad you did! haha. Here's just a lil snippet from the story:
Manti Te'o did lose his grandmother this past fall. Annette Santiago died on Sept. 11, 2012, at the age of 72, according to Social Security Administration records in Nexis. But there is no SSA record there of the death of Lennay Marie Kekua, that day or any other. Her passing, recounted so many times in the national media, produces no obituary or funeral announcement in Nexis, and no mention in the Stanford student newspaper.
Nor is there any report of a severe auto accident involving a Lennay Kekua. Background checks turn up nothing. The Stanford registrar's office has no record that a Lennay Kekua ever enrolled. There is no record of her birth in the news. Outside of a few Twitter and Instagram accounts, there's no online evidence that Lennay Kekua ever existed.
The photographs identified as Kekua—in online tributes and on TV news reports—are pictures from the social-media accounts of a 22-year-old California woman who is not named Lennay Kekua. She is not a Stanford graduate; she has not been in a severe car accident; and she does not have leukemia. And she has never met Manti Te'o.
That's kind of the viewpoint I'm taking right now, but Deadspin is usually correct and I doubt they would publish a story like this without being very sure of themselves
They're pretty solid when it comes to these kinds of big investigations, like the one they did about that Sarah Phillips scammer. The evidence this woman does not and never did exist seems airtight.
The story might even be a possible explanation for Te'o's lousy national championship game, since you have to assume Deadspin didn't just pull all this reporting together in the last 10 days, and had to have reached out for a comment from him at some point. If a major media outlet is nosing around your life, it gets back to you.
I have a suspicion about what's going on here below the surface, but it isn't the sort of thing I'd want to speculate on publicly.
Ya, I'm ready to crucify him plenty. I get that your whole thing is "Ohhh wait and see" but you mean to tell me we go an entire season of having this story jammed down our throats and Manti doesn't know\isn't in on it? He's going to claim what, he didn't know she wasn't real? No. Effing. Way.
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I'm just saying...how do we even know its true at this point? In this day and age its easy to make something a conspiracy if you try hard enough. Heck, some ppl are claiming the the recent school shooting is really a sham(which infuriates me).
I was just about to edit my comments. I am now on board with the rage. I just read the statement that ND released.
Although I will say this(and I am NOT defending him anymore until he proves otherwise)....this kind of thing is a lot more common than you might think(internet dating from a distance). There is even a TV show and movie about this.
If you're referring to Catfish, there's a great many questions regarding that movie's authenticity (not sure of the tv show). Morgan Spurlock saw it at a festival and called it the greatest fake documentary ever made. The brothers who made the film have been less than forthcoming about its authenticity.
Yea, thats what I was referring to, though I agree the authenticity is suspicious. This does happen though...I know someone who it happened to(though not nearly to this degree).
Right but these two people supposedly saw each other in real life\met each other so if that was said and isn't true, that has to mean the guy knew this entire thing was a farce and had no problem with the ice cream the hype machine turned out as a result of his play, his grandma's death, and his 'girlfriend's' death. That's where it falls short for me.
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The only flaw in Manti's innocence story (i.e. he was duped) is that he clearly had made public reference to meeting her in person after the 2009 Stanford game in Palo Alto. Had he only known her online, he might have had a chance to play up innocence; but that report's pretty damning. Only way around it is to say that he lied about ever seeing her in person because he didn't want to publicly admit to being in love with a woman that he'd never seen.
Ohhhh my. I just realized who else may have to pay the piper on this one-Skip Bayless has gone almost to Tebowesque levels in his love for Manti. I can not wait to hear what he has to say*
*Yes-I just said I can't wait to hear what Bayless has to say on a subject. Downvotes away!!!!
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They'll deflect the issue and talk about his 'stellar play'-being in the right place 7 times and making tackles.
This is...I'm....**exhale**
I'm almost at ground zero here too guys. Chicago Sports Radio is ablaze with this stuff, ND has a strong following in the City of Wind and the airwaves have been an uproarious good time. Its safe to say that here, in my little corner of the world-hilarity has ensued.
For you bored folks who want to get a listen to what I'm living with, 670 The Score streams and its just glorious. The amount of butt hurt is rivaling....wait for it-That of Penn State Nation. I have a funny feeling even PSU'ers, hell even ol Franco himself would say "Oh man, that's just crazy".
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I honestly believe that without this fake dead girlfriend story (compounded with his grandmother's death, which got WAY less play in the media), Te'o is not a Heisman finalist and does not win all the major awards in college football this year.
Numbers don't lie brother. Shazier, Jarvis Jones, and Clowney all had pretty damned impactfull years. That's been my bone since the outset-the guy made tackles, not an impact when you compare what those other guys did.
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Considering Deadspin was the only one to do actual research into this girl whereas ABC, ESPN, and many other major netwroks did not I will believe Deadspin's story over anyone elses. I have no problem saying he is a piece of crap at this point...its a forum I'm commenting on, not an OpEd piece
And I thought I was mad about Te'o finishing so high in the Heisman despite having similar/worse stats to Shazier before this. Also, can they do a revote so that Braxton finishes higher?
By far the weirdest thing I have heard in a long time. Sidenote: Is the Tuiasosopo family like the football mafia family of the west coast. It is like every couple of years their name pops up in a football story.
Next thing will we hear is that "her" twitter account was hacked
“There are some people addicted to alcohol, some people are addicted to gambling,” Luginbill said. “Urban Meyer is addicted to football, and he’s addicted to winning.”
"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."
This is just absurd, I am in shock that no one apparently caught onto this before now. I cant believe that his parents seemed to believe this. And like others have already said I am leaning to this being true because of Deadspin's track record.
“There are some people addicted to alcohol, some people are addicted to gambling,” Luginbill said. “Urban Meyer is addicted to football, and he’s addicted to winning.”
Seriously how was this not discovered before? I'm surprised no Stanford students cracked this thing earlier, since his fake-dead girlfriend had supposedly gone there. And since enough people hate Notre Dame, how in the world was this not brought to light earlier?
ND has confirmed the story and that she never existed but is saying Te'o was duped and didn't make her up. I dunno what is worse: being a huge scumbag and making up a fake girlfriend who dies or being a huge idiot and get involved with a fake internet girlfriend hoax?
Is there anything right at ND these days? Kelly's scissor lift incident where a student dies, players are raping the coeds who are commiting suicide, they forget to come out of the locker room in the NT game and their best player is either a moron or making things up to get attention.... Whats next? Is Rudy running a ponzi scheme, or perhaps the its Goleson's fault RGIII tore his knee up, I'm sure I could put it together but I just dont give a sh#t anymore. I really didnt have a reason to hate on ND but now I dont have a reason not to.
If it's true....wow all I can say. Brew summed it up as well as I could...
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
This is great, total 6th grade move, you know the fake girl you were making out with all the time from the different middle school that you told your friends not to worry about the details because "you wouldn't know here anyway".
I just posted something about this under the Gibson thread... didn't feel like starting one so glad you did! haha. Here's just a lil snippet from the story:
Manti Te'o did lose his grandmother this past fall. Annette Santiago died on Sept. 11, 2012, at the age of 72, according to Social Security Administration records in Nexis. But there is no SSA record there of the death of Lennay Marie Kekua, that day or any other. Her passing, recounted so many times in the national media, produces no obituary or funeral announcement in Nexis, and no mention in the Stanford student newspaper.
Nor is there any report of a severe auto accident involving a Lennay Kekua. Background checks turn up nothing. The Stanford registrar's office has no record that a Lennay Kekua ever enrolled. There is no record of her birth in the news. Outside of a few Twitter and Instagram accounts, there's no online evidence that Lennay Kekua ever existed.
The photographs identified as Kekua—in online tributes and on TV news reports—are pictures from the social-media accounts of a 22-year-old California woman who is not named Lennay Kekua. She is not a Stanford graduate; she has not been in a severe car accident; and she does not have leukemia. And she has never met Manti Te'o.
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
haha exactly man. Either way, this kid was dooped by one of his friends or he was in on it and perpetrated a story that aided his fame this year
How could Teo be dooped into talking about having a girlfriend?
If he thinks that the person is real
But he is reportedly talking to her every night on the phone and met her after the stanford game....what am I missing here?
"All she wanted was some white roses. So I sent her roses and sent her two picks along with that."
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SO CRAZY
I can't even think of a word to describe how ridiculous this is
My god
WTF?!? If true, that is messed up
If this is true, absolutely makes Manti Teo a horrible person
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
thats crazy. no good comes out of notre dame.
I don't know that we can call this a fact just yet. Let's wait a bit before crucifying the guy.
That's kind of the viewpoint I'm taking right now, but Deadspin is usually correct and I doubt they would publish a story like this without being very sure of themselves
They're pretty solid when it comes to these kinds of big investigations, like the one they did about that Sarah Phillips scammer. The evidence this woman does not and never did exist seems airtight.
The story might even be a possible explanation for Te'o's lousy national championship game, since you have to assume Deadspin didn't just pull all this reporting together in the last 10 days, and had to have reached out for a comment from him at some point. If a major media outlet is nosing around your life, it gets back to you.
I have a suspicion about what's going on here below the surface, but it isn't the sort of thing I'd want to speculate on publicly.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Ya, I'm ready to crucify him plenty. I get that your whole thing is "Ohhh wait and see" but you mean to tell me we go an entire season of having this story jammed down our throats and Manti doesn't know\isn't in on it? He's going to claim what, he didn't know she wasn't real? No. Effing. Way.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
I'm just saying...how do we even know its true at this point? In this day and age its easy to make something a conspiracy if you try hard enough. Heck, some ppl are claiming the the recent school shooting is really a sham(which infuriates me).
I'm sorry, I need you to clarify. Are you saying the dead spin piece isn't true and this girl is real or that Manti didn't know she wasn't real?
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I was just about to edit my comments. I am now on board with the rage. I just read the statement that ND released.
Although I will say this(and I am NOT defending him anymore until he proves otherwise)....this kind of thing is a lot more common than you might think(internet dating from a distance). There is even a TV show and movie about this.
If you're referring to Catfish, there's a great many questions regarding that movie's authenticity (not sure of the tv show). Morgan Spurlock saw it at a festival and called it the greatest fake documentary ever made. The brothers who made the film have been less than forthcoming about its authenticity.
Yea, thats what I was referring to, though I agree the authenticity is suspicious. This does happen though...I know someone who it happened to(though not nearly to this degree).
Right but these two people supposedly saw each other in real life\met each other so if that was said and isn't true, that has to mean the guy knew this entire thing was a farce and had no problem with the ice cream the hype machine turned out as a result of his play, his grandma's death, and his 'girlfriend's' death. That's where it falls short for me.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
I'm with ya now brother...when I made my first two comments I hadn't really dug into any of the info.
Exactly, Brewster.
The only flaw in Manti's innocence story (i.e. he was duped) is that he clearly had made public reference to meeting her in person after the 2009 Stanford game in Palo Alto. Had he only known her online, he might have had a chance to play up innocence; but that report's pretty damning. Only way around it is to say that he lied about ever seeing her in person because he didn't want to publicly admit to being in love with a woman that he'd never seen.
Ohhh my. That's a good spin job buddy. You in PR? You should be! Seriously, if that is the line-and I can see it being that, you hit a homer.
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Haha, it's a personal goal of mine to get into. Know anyone hiring?
I do not...
Ohhhh my. I just realized who else may have to pay the piper on this one-Skip Bayless has gone almost to Tebowesque levels in his love for Manti. I can not wait to hear what he has to say*
*Yes-I just said I can't wait to hear what Bayless has to say on a subject. Downvotes away!!!!
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ESPN First Take is going to be absolute GOLD fr the next week or so.
Thats the first, and only, time I'll ever advocate watching that dreck. But Bayless's tears are going to taste so good.
They'll deflect the issue and talk about his 'stellar play'-being in the right place 7 times and making tackles.
This is...I'm....**exhale**
I'm almost at ground zero here too guys. Chicago Sports Radio is ablaze with this stuff, ND has a strong following in the City of Wind and the airwaves have been an uproarious good time. Its safe to say that here, in my little corner of the world-hilarity has ensued.
For you bored folks who want to get a listen to what I'm living with, 670 The Score streams and its just glorious. The amount of butt hurt is rivaling....wait for it-That of Penn State Nation. I have a funny feeling even PSU'ers, hell even ol Franco himself would say "Oh man, that's just crazy".
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
I honestly believe that without this fake dead girlfriend story (compounded with his grandmother's death, which got WAY less play in the media), Te'o is not a Heisman finalist and does not win all the major awards in college football this year.
Numbers don't lie brother. Shazier, Jarvis Jones, and Clowney all had pretty damned impactfull years. That's been my bone since the outset-the guy made tackles, not an impact when you compare what those other guys did.
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This is why I cant understand ND backing Teo at this point. They will look bad if it comes out that Teo is crazy and made all this up??
Considering Deadspin was the only one to do actual research into this girl whereas ABC, ESPN, and many other major netwroks did not I will believe Deadspin's story over anyone elses. I have no problem saying he is a piece of crap at this point...its a forum I'm commenting on, not an OpEd piece
And I thought I was mad about Te'o finishing so high in the Heisman despite having similar/worse stats to Shazier before this. Also, can they do a revote so that Braxton finishes higher?
I would love to see ND fans logging onto their computers right now.
best comment "So, she was a metaphor for the irish's title chances all along?"
seriously though, this really makes me kind of sick. wonder what SI, WWL, et all will spin with this?
“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren
By far the weirdest thing I have heard in a long time. Sidenote: Is the Tuiasosopo family like the football mafia family of the west coast. It is like every couple of years their name pops up in a football story.
Let's take all ND's recruits too.
This is just unreal if this story is true. Can you imagine what the reaction would have been had he actually won the Heisman?
It's true... We really are a bunch of nuts!
Go Bucks!
ROFL R U SRS
Best tweet I've seen so far is that Teo's girlfreind story is still more believe than his 2 missed tackles all season story.
Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens
Sorry this is the first time I have ever tried to post a picture and it came out way to big.
A story like this deserves a huge perplexing picture
WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF???????!!!!!!!!!
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
"You don't need to be the best college football player in the country to win awards if you've got a fake dead girlfriend." ------------ Manti Te'o
So his "girlfriend's" twitter account just retweeted him
This story pretty much confirmed for true
https://twitter.com/LennayKay/status/291667906012524545
Next thing will we hear is that "her" twitter account was hacked
“There are some people addicted to alcohol, some people are addicted to gambling,” Luginbill said. “Urban Meyer is addicted to football, and he’s addicted to winning.”
what what what what what the f&ck?
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
LOL at first RT of this "ZOMBIE!!!"
"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."
This is just absurd, I am in shock that no one apparently caught onto this before now. I cant believe that his parents seemed to believe this. And like others have already said I am leaning to this being true because of Deadspin's track record.
“There are some people addicted to alcohol, some people are addicted to gambling,” Luginbill said. “Urban Meyer is addicted to football, and he’s addicted to winning.”
Seriously how was this not discovered before? I'm surprised no Stanford students cracked this thing earlier, since his fake-dead girlfriend had supposedly gone there. And since enough people hate Notre Dame, how in the world was this not brought to light earlier?
Holy Christ. This is about to spead like wildfire. The Legend of Mani T'eo is set implode in 3, 2, 1...
If this is true, why? To get Heisman sympathy? I don't buy it, the possibility of getting the Heisman would not be worth the backlash.
BUT Some people at Deadspin thread brought this up:
He's mormon
He's attending a very religious institution
He's a high profile player in a very "macho" culture.
What if he was sick of his classmates asking, "why are you single?"
Seems like making up a girlfriend across the country would be a great way to get people to stop asking uncomfortable questions.
I don't want to start rumors, but this scenario puts Te'o ina better light than some other possible outcomes.
So ND knew about this on December 26th apparently
EDIT: Oh my god this just gets more ridiculous. T'eo claims to be the victim of a hoax
Manti T'eo's dumb, overrated ass is BUSTED!
Class of 2010.
I bet this is why Alex Anzalone de-committed.
^^^^^^^ this lololol
QuadrupleZ
ND has confirmed the story and that she never existed but is saying Te'o was duped and didn't make her up. I dunno what is worse: being a huge scumbag and making up a fake girlfriend who dies or being a huge idiot and get involved with a fake internet girlfriend hoax?
I did not think it possible, but no I hate Notre Dame even more. -puke-
~Because we couldn't go for three~
Is there anything right at ND these days? Kelly's scissor lift incident where a student dies, players are raping the coeds who are commiting suicide, they forget to come out of the locker room in the NT game and their best player is either a moron or making things up to get attention.... Whats next? Is Rudy running a ponzi scheme, or perhaps the its Goleson's fault RGIII tore his knee up, I'm sure I could put it together but I just dont give a sh#t anymore. I really didnt have a reason to hate on ND but now I dont have a reason not to.
Nothing like dancing on the field in 02...
If it's true....wow all I can say. Brew summed it up as well as I could...
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
This is great, total 6th grade move, you know the fake girl you were making out with all the time from the different middle school that you told your friends not to worry about the details because "you wouldn't know here anyway".
courtesy of Pardon the Interruption
This is messed up.
this is some seriously sick shit haha. Don't even know what to think about it.