The thing that hurt LSU and Georgia in their matchups vs bama was not having enought D-line Depth, Sure they had maybe 1-2 capable backups but with the way OSU is stacking them up similar to his florida days he's positioning the buckeyes to be the ones who take out Bama!
Watch that "ready to run through a wall yet" recruiting video of Coach Coombs, and he specifically mentions that Urban challenges the coaches and players "are you better than Alabama?" He's set them as the target to beat, and with obvious reason.
That was the best part for me. It sent a loud, clear message about where this staff wants to be. The B1G is simply a stepping stone for this regime as beating Michigan and winning the conference will never be enough. I loved that Bama was specifically named. The staff knows who is king. What's the line from Gangs of New York? "You don't kill a king in the shadows, you kill him in his court"? Something to that tune.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Washington, Bennett, Hale, Hill, Price, Munger (may end up at OG),
And my SLEEPER PICK
Chris Carter at NT
Call me crazy and I know many people thought Carter was junk but once Urban got here that kid got in WAY better shape and in the spring game and in some games he came in for Hankins and I think with another year of this kid committing himself he could be a nice space eater BIG DT that Urban likes to have much like Hankins..not saying he is as good as Hankins but just BIG like Big Hank. This offseason will prove if Carter wants it or not he has a LOT of young guns pushing him, but none are 6'4 355 like he is. If they can get this kid motivated and angry look out.
A Dline of Spence, Washington, Carter, Bennett on running downs if they go big DE with Bennett then slide Bennett inside on passing downs and putting Pittman or Bosa at DE...or Miller can't forget about Miller.
I'm intrigued by the potential of Chris Carter to become a space eater, too. I'm hoping that Carter's efforts to get his weight down to - what, about 320 lbs? - are still progressing well. I don't want to be negative, or jinx things, but I thought I heard some chatter that Carter was struggling a bit with this challenge . . .
Yeah not sure what his goals were but I recall in the ESPN all access show, Carter looked much better than last year. Still has a ways to go, but I love a big ol 335-340 lb NT Hankins was playing at 320-325 I think this year.
But even if Carter can't get in shape there are so many DTs that I think will contribute this group is scary. Carter would just be a nice surprise addition to the group.
The future is here. The Buckeye D-line is talented but inexperienced, and they have to grow up and show up fast in order for the Buckeyes to have the season we all hope for. OSU has a schedule that is even easier than last year's and we could very well go through the season undefeated. If we do, the key to winning or losing a national championship will be the performance of the D-line. Will they be up to it?
You build from the inside, out, starting with the defense. In spite of all the BS commentary from the so called "experts" about this kind of offense and that kind of offense, football games are won in the trenches; always have been and always will.
I knew Bama's O-line was going to be the difference in the game. They have 5 studs starting in the trenches. I wouldn't be surpised at all if the only remaining starter returning next season is Cyrus Kouandjio, their LT. Jones and Warmack are Seniors, but Steen and Fluker are probably 2 rd picks at worst.
This is pretty good news for any opponent they play next year. Although I'm sure their backups are beasts too.
Besides the game last night we also lost all 4 starters from last year's team. We got some big shoes to fill and some young guys who are capable to do just that.
It's all about the trenches. Back when OSU got destroyed by UF in the NCG, as painful a memory as it is, they did with a monster defensive line that disrupted OSU's o-line and Troy Smith the whole game. And regarding our current o-line, Urban got a coach who can actually work with and develop guys to play in Warriner, as opposed to whatever the heck Bollman used to do with the o-line.
well Bama's Oline was particularly special. 3 seniors that practically started together from day one. All studs and next year they will be gone. I don't think even talented recruits can fill those shoes next year.
I do feel comfortable in saying this. Bama faced Georgia and Notre Dame but not South Carolina. The best defensive players on each of those teams are Jarvis Jones, Jadaveon Clowney and Manti T'eo. On this team there is a better linebacker than Manti (Shazier) a possible clone of clowney (Washington) and a player with a similar skill set if not with more possibilities than Jarvis (Spence). I know Bama took on all those teams with great player and only really failed to beat Manziel (whom Braxton is comparable) but imagine all the best players on those teams on this one team next year!
even if the rest of this team next year plays just on par of what they are capable of, those 4 players right there have the potential of creating something that not even Bama is prepared to face.
While I'm also bullish on Washington and Spence, there's no way either of them is close to the players that Jadaveon Clowney and Jarvis Jones are...yet. Those guys are the elite of the elite -- top 10 NFL draft picks at worst. Maybe in time Washington and Spence will get there, but they aren't even close yet.
There is no way that you can compare Washington and Clowney! They have different skill set. I am just as much as a Buckeye fan as the next Ohioan, but I'm not delusional! We don't have players on this roster that are the equivalent to the top 3 defensive players in the country.
Urban knows the national title goes through the offensive and defensive lines. He won 2 while in the SEC. He knows the formula.
The formula is about a smothering defense and it starts with the DLine. I was in desert in 07 & the Superdome in 08. That was how both teams beat us.
Because they wouldn't let me go for 3!
Woody Hayes 1913-1987
The thing that hurt LSU and Georgia in their matchups vs bama was not having enought D-line Depth, Sure they had maybe 1-2 capable backups but with the way OSU is stacking them up similar to his florida days he's positioning the buckeyes to be the ones who take out Bama!
i personally dont need to know anything. urbs knows what its gonna take and i have confidence he will get tosu to the promised land!
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Watch that "ready to run through a wall yet" recruiting video of Coach Coombs, and he specifically mentions that Urban challenges the coaches and players "are you better than Alabama?" He's set them as the target to beat, and with obvious reason.
That was the best part for me. It sent a loud, clear message about where this staff wants to be. The B1G is simply a stepping stone for this regime as beating Michigan and winning the conference will never be enough. I loved that Bama was specifically named. The staff knows who is king. What's the line from Gangs of New York? "You don't kill a king in the shadows, you kill him in his court"? Something to that tune.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
The Dline in the future is going to be ridiculous
Spence, Pittman, Miller, Bosa, Lewis, Sprinkle
Washington, Bennett, Hale, Hill, Price, Munger (may end up at OG),
And my SLEEPER PICK
Chris Carter at NT
Call me crazy and I know many people thought Carter was junk but once Urban got here that kid got in WAY better shape and in the spring game and in some games he came in for Hankins and I think with another year of this kid committing himself he could be a nice space eater BIG DT that Urban likes to have much like Hankins..not saying he is as good as Hankins but just BIG like Big Hank. This offseason will prove if Carter wants it or not he has a LOT of young guns pushing him, but none are 6'4 355 like he is. If they can get this kid motivated and angry look out.
A Dline of Spence, Washington, Carter, Bennett on running downs if they go big DE with Bennett then slide Bennett inside on passing downs and putting Pittman or Bosa at DE...or Miller can't forget about Miller.
Depth
I'm intrigued by the potential of Chris Carter to become a space eater, too. I'm hoping that Carter's efforts to get his weight down to - what, about 320 lbs? - are still progressing well. I don't want to be negative, or jinx things, but I thought I heard some chatter that Carter was struggling a bit with this challenge . . .
Yeah not sure what his goals were but I recall in the ESPN all access show, Carter looked much better than last year. Still has a ways to go, but I love a big ol 335-340 lb NT Hankins was playing at 320-325 I think this year.
But even if Carter can't get in shape there are so many DTs that I think will contribute this group is scary. Carter would just be a nice surprise addition to the group.
The future looks very bright for our d-line for sure.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning! GO BUCKS!!
The future is here. The Buckeye D-line is talented but inexperienced, and they have to grow up and show up fast in order for the Buckeyes to have the season we all hope for. OSU has a schedule that is even easier than last year's and we could very well go through the season undefeated. If we do, the key to winning or losing a national championship will be the performance of the D-line. Will they be up to it?
You build from the inside, out, starting with the defense. In spite of all the BS commentary from the so called "experts" about this kind of offense and that kind of offense, football games are won in the trenches; always have been and always will.
"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"
I knew Bama's O-line was going to be the difference in the game. They have 5 studs starting in the trenches. I wouldn't be surpised at all if the only remaining starter returning next season is Cyrus Kouandjio, their LT. Jones and Warmack are Seniors, but Steen and Fluker are probably 2 rd picks at worst.
This is pretty good news for any opponent they play next year. Although I'm sure their backups are beasts too.
And he made a big jump in his OL by hiring Warriner. Got to follow that BAMA format with our own Buckeye flavor
Besides the game last night we also lost all 4 starters from last year's team. We got some big shoes to fill and some young guys who are capable to do just that.
It's all about the trenches. Back when OSU got destroyed by UF in the NCG, as painful a memory as it is, they did with a monster defensive line that disrupted OSU's o-line and Troy Smith the whole game. And regarding our current o-line, Urban got a coach who can actually work with and develop guys to play in Warriner, as opposed to whatever the heck Bollman used to do with the o-line.
I think Bollman had them sitting around drinking pina colada's while he showed them his "blocking" schemes. Practice, who needs practice!
well Bama's Oline was particularly special. 3 seniors that practically started together from day one. All studs and next year they will be gone. I don't think even talented recruits can fill those shoes next year.
I do feel comfortable in saying this. Bama faced Georgia and Notre Dame but not South Carolina. The best defensive players on each of those teams are Jarvis Jones, Jadaveon Clowney and Manti T'eo. On this team there is a better linebacker than Manti (Shazier) a possible clone of clowney (Washington) and a player with a similar skill set if not with more possibilities than Jarvis (Spence). I know Bama took on all those teams with great player and only really failed to beat Manziel (whom Braxton is comparable) but imagine all the best players on those teams on this one team next year!
even if the rest of this team next year plays just on par of what they are capable of, those 4 players right there have the potential of creating something that not even Bama is prepared to face.
I get what you are saying, but no one is a clone of Clowney that dude broke the mould.
While I'm also bullish on Washington and Spence, there's no way either of them is close to the players that Jadaveon Clowney and Jarvis Jones are...yet. Those guys are the elite of the elite -- top 10 NFL draft picks at worst. Maybe in time Washington and Spence will get there, but they aren't even close yet.
There is no way that you can compare Washington and Clowney! They have different skill set. I am just as much as a Buckeye fan as the next Ohioan, but I'm not delusional! We don't have players on this roster that are the equivalent to the top 3 defensive players in the country.
There is no one in college football who is a clone of Clowney. Not even close.
I think Washington is going to be a DT for the rest of his days. He is just getting BIGGER. He is going to be a monster out there next year.
I really like Bosa, I think he will get PT as a freshman next year with Spence on the other side.