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No mention of the Buckeyes eh?
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
ummm, no.
he did mention Ohio State
I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me
thank you, Captian Obvious.
I see what you did there, and I like it
The 2 ESPN radio guys last week did a top 3 and one had the buckeyes #2 and the other had them #1.
D. Anthony
Last year at this time they were talking about USC. They were spot on.
Just updated that the Irish and OSU could contend too, possibly Louisville as well.
Just mentioned them hold ya britches boys...
Texas A&M over Ohio State. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff............ttttttttttttttt
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Louisville is getting way over hyped now...I'll bet Texas A&M loses 3-4 games next year as well.
D. Anthony
Louisville is the 2013 version of WVU.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
I respectfully disagree. Did you watch their D vs. Florida?
Florida's offense couldn't move the ball against air, I'm not sold that was the Louisville d.
When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."
so you are saying the running back who racked up over 100 yards against LSU and FSU and had 77 yards against Georgia, yet was held to 49 yards against Louisville, means nothing?
Louisville's D was stout. I don't care what people say. Florida was not a jaugernaut on offense but they could run the ball. to hold the whole team to 111 yards rushing is quite the accomplishment.
No, not saying it means nothing. But, a couple of important things to add to that. First, it was 49 yards on 9 carries. Over 5 yards a pop is not exactly shutting him down, they just didn't give him the ball that much. That's either forced by the game situation (being behind and the clock being a factor) or bad coordination, not great defense. Second, their (Louisville) overall body of work as a defense was not that impressive, against a fairly weak conference (~24ppg surrendered and 140 yards per game rushing is not stifling defense), right around the middle of the pack in terms of rankings for the season.
When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."
Their schedule will be weaker than ours next year, and they are a young team with a lot coming back. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they go undefeated.
Way overhyped? who is overhyping them? I haven't seen one person say Louisville is the knockdown lock for the NCG and if you are saying a top 10 team is overhyped, then you missed the boat big time.
Bridgewater is a heisman candidate and now has probably one of the best WR groups in the nation (Parker, Quick, Copeland and others) plus they are coached by what I consider a top 5 coach who is a defensive mind. It is pretty telling that a defensive coach who is building a very strong defense has offensive weapons like that. They may not have a strong running game but not necessary with Bridgewater.
if anything, Louisville will be totally underhyped just like they were last week because of the conference they are in. I'm not saying they are true contenders for the NC but they are a very good team in a bad conference.
FYI, Syracuse and Pitt are now not going to be in the BigEast for football. Their schedule got even easier.
I'm sorry but we are one year away from playing on the same field with Bama. We have to get stronger and faster. If your a fan of football and not blind to just the buckeyes , you will see that there is a speed difference. Let Urb recruit some more! Our time will come , but lets be honest with ourselves!
Jsb
Luckily this game is exactly one year away.
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
Speed difference isn't as troubling as the size up front. Their lineman would be the difference. I think we need to get elite lineman (recruited by Urbz) developed by warrnier before we can compete.
Herbie had USC & Florida State in the title game this year......Close
A lot of ppl would have put money on those two being in the title game before the season started. Alas, this is why it is only a prediction and teams actually play the games.
And here comes Cincyosu to defend herbie and the espin boys. You have to be related to one of their employees.
Grow up Peter Pan. Please explain why you single me out when there are MANY other posters on here who feel exactly the same as me. What I posted was indeed a fact. MANY analysts felt that FSU and/or USC would be playing in the title game.
Edit - I wasn't the one that downvoted you.
Actually you didn't post that at all. You posted a speculation (not fact) that a lot of people would have put money on FSU/USC - you didn't mention analysts.
I'm not saying you did or didn't deserve that comment from whomever - I'm, well, just sayin.
I see your issue(I kind of combined 2 posts into one opinion) but point remains unchanged.
*Comment edited.
I say this to you cincy, because you always passionately defend espin any time they are criticized. I just went through your comments and a lot of them are defending the wwl. I find it odd that you are so passionate to defend espin while you take the opportunity to claim our fanbase as delusional for thinking what other outlets have reported: espin has a vested interest in protecting their investment in the sec.
See, if you actually did go back and read my posts about ESPN you would notice several things. 1) I don't think very highly of ESPN's News division...it has become more about entertainment than quality reporting. 2) I tend to agree, for the most part, that ESPN does have SOME bias towards the SEC...but so does every outlet nowadays. 3) Your last sentence is not something I argue against. I only "defend" ESPN when people act like ESPN is "out to get" OSU or intentionally trying to harm the program...which is absurd. There are MANY others on here who also feel just like me in this regard, yet I am the only one who gets called out by name.
Except for this.......... http://www.elevenwarriors.com/buckshot/2012/01/espn-will-not-be-suing-auburn-anytime-soon
What are you trying to say? I didn't comment on this article...which is about ESPN being biased towards Newton and Auburn...something I rarely argue against(although I don't think its as bad as some make it out to be).
Keep defending espin.....http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/january/bob-valvano-s-awesome-rant-calls-out-espn-colleagues.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Dude you need to stop...or at least understand what I am "defending". Please read my post above this...I DON"T THINK ESPN IS A CREDIBLE SOURCE FOR NEWS. That is a SEPARATE issue from whether I feel ESPN is "out to get" OSU. It's clear you just want to argue and are choosing to ignore anything that doesn't fit your pre-molded opinion.
My "argument " is that anytime someone criticizes espin you readily jump to their defense. Taking a look at your past comments, this opinion is easily supported.
As for espin bias argument, the facts that exist trump your assertions based on your own opinion.
Do you listen to yourself? I explained myself and my position, and you then procede to send me links to articles/opinions that I have no issues with. Again, READ my past comments...the vast majority of my "defense" of ESPN is geared towards those conspiracy theorists who feel that ESPN is in some way trying to burn down OSU's program, yet you ignore this and focus on the ESPN bias towards the SEC....something I tend to agree with. Many others agree with me and are also vocal about the same opinons I have, why the fascination with me? I am beginning to wonder if maybe you are my "admirer" that the 11W staff had to send a warning to?
Definitely not your "admirer". Don't flatter yourself. Just pointing out that 90 percent of your posts are defending espin coupled with your criticism of tOSU fans that believe there is a bias. Maybe you are just contrarian. Whatever it is, i no longer will have any debate with you about this in the future.
Seriously....what are you not understanding? Let me say one more time...I only "defend" ESPN against those who feel ESPN is actively trying to harm the OSU brand(and I am not the only one). I have no issue with those who feel ESPN has a bias towards the SEC...there is a difference. Oh and btw, a contrarian argues the other way on every topic/subject for the sake of starting an argument...stating my opinion on one subject does not make me, and others, a contrarian.
I agree with Cincy. Part of the reason that I have jumped up and pointed out similar things is that many OSU fans seem like people owe us something. Isn't it possible that Herbstreit is so over cautious about coming across as pro-OSU that he actually goes too far? Isn't it possible that ESPN covers the SEC because they are the best conference in the country? Anytime OSU isn't listed as a title contender there are OSU fans who get their panties in a bunch and start calling out other OSU fans for no reason.
If Mark May picks ND to lose a game, and their fans start talking about dumb he is and the only reason he did that is so he and Lou Holtz would disagree, OSU fans start talking about how delusional ND fans are. Terrible example because Mark May is a complete d-bag, I don't think anyone disagrees.
However, my point is that some OSU fans go over the top and become conspiracy theorists. He is doing his job to the best of his abilities, if you would give up on your job because of your love for OSU...grow up. Herbstreit has bled for The Ohio State University, have you? He put his ass on the line when he was playing, did you? He likely donates time & money to the university (assuming he can within the limitations of his contract), do you? The man was run out of Columbus because of over the top fans.
"Michigan and "huge mistake" are synonymous"
-Mark Titus
It actually pissed me off just a touch when Brent did finally give OSU a mention and sent it to Herbie he immediately started talking about other teams. Damn guy, it's ok if you say a couple positive sentences about your alma mater. He tries extremely hard to refrain from any props. Not trying to stir the pot just stating the obvious.
and it is very obvious that he avoids the topic as much as he can with his national gigs. No one says he isn't a fan but he just goes out of his way to not talk about OSU.
Cound't have said it better myself Dude;-)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
IMO herstreit is obvious in his disdain for the Ohio State fan base in general. The harder the fan base pushes, i.e., calls herbstreit out for his alleged disloyalty, the harder he pushes back. I've heard him, many times over the years, refer to the Buckeyes with contempt. As this chasm grew between some OSU fans and herbstreit, the contemptuous comments became more frequent (especially on his local radio program). I think the guy is overtly arrogant, and a few years ago (2010) after Ohio State had won the Sugar Bowl by beating Arkansas and herbstreit voted OSU 13th (I believe) in his final poll, it was an intended slap in the face to the fan base. It was herbstreit being herbstreit and saying "watch how I piss em off now". I know that there are many fans who post on here who love herbstreit and I respect their opinions / feelings. I just happen to be on the other side of the fence. Wherever you stand, this guy is undeniably polarizing.
and it gets even harder when you see many other sports commentators totally go out of their way to talk positively about their team, being a homer or not. To pretty much have the one person who can speak up for OSU and its fans when others are just bashing them, and he doesn't.
Sometimes it just feels like the fans have to speak up for themselves because no one else is and then we get called annoying or obnoxious or homers or disillusional. Sometimes some fans go overboard but that can be said about all fanbases. but if we had a voice that will speak up for OSU, maybe we wouldn't be so vocal.
I have no doubt Spielman, Herbstreit and others are very passionate about the buckeyes. No doubt at all. All I am saying is it would be nice for someone on the national media to stick up for not just OSU but its fans too. and I am not saying when college game day comes to Columbus or anything like that. I am talking about at any time.
Maybe next year will change. Urban has already started it a bit. Probably why we are so eager for a NC, to be able to say "hey, we are still here. we aren't going anywhere" more than "hey, we are better than you. nener nener! S.E.C. S.E.C." :P
I hate Herbstreit, seriously, you'd never know the guy was a Buckeye. What a pansy.
Just a life long Buckeye fan wanting to talk to other lifelong Buckeye fans. Our honor defend, we will fight to the end for OOO HIIII OOOOOO!
Herbie had a problem with the culture created at OSU by Tress and some of his players. Hard to argue with that...well at least for me and a few others who haven't already forgot bc of a 12-0 season. Urban will bring Herbie around to commenting more...bc he won't have a choice bc we'll be in a bowl game next year as opposed to not being in one like this year (he won't be able to only talk about TX A&M or LSU or Bama or whomever bc we won't be irrelevant this year. OSU still has some proving to do...like can we do it when it matters???).
I'm personally sick and tired of ppl flaming an alum who played his ass off for OSU but wasn't as successful against tTUN (or overall) as some other QBs. Funny how it's ok to defend TP...bc he beat tTUN 3 times and won
twoone bowl game. Funny how Herbie's a guy who's successful as an analyst but doesn't compare to a guy who screwed over OSU, his teammates and his predecessors for $$/Tats for "trinkets" when he could have got as much $$ in the NFL that he wanted. Ever wonder why/how our fan base gets flamed for being ignorant...funny isn't it???? Leave Herbie alone...he payed his dues...no pun intended btw;-)"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Brent definitely mentioned Ohio State.
I'm not defending anyone here, but these guys are getting payed to do exactly what they are doing..create controversy on a big stage such as college football.. Sure herbie doesn't give the buckeyes a lot of hype, but we all know he and his family are true buckeyes when he isn't behind those cameras.. he and his wife and kids all rock the OSU jersey's.. Anyway that's my 2 cents, for what it's worth..
he can cause controversy by actually hyping OSU also. It doesn't have to be controversial this way, it can the other way. Mike Golic, media wise someone Herby I would assume would strive to be, is over the top about ND. It is controversial that he talks so highly of them, not ignore them.
now, not saying Herby should go that far, but he had a choice and he decided to avoid his allegience on the national stage. he didn't have to. He is a good looking ex-QB from a major program that knows what he is talking about. He doesn't have to be non-biased to be good at what he does. He can show some bias nationally.
Just in case others don't know, Herbie is quite a Homer on his radio show and in person. No doubt he is a fan of OSU.
I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I would argue that Herbstreit is a much bigger deal @ ESPN than Mike Golic. I'm pretty sure he's not striving to be him. Herbstreit is the face of their college football coverage.
Absolutely. I don't think anyone takes Golic's analysis of anything too seriously. No disrespect, but noone's confusing Golic for a Mensa member.
Herbstreit is obviously better than Golic but Golic is apart of the weekday morning show. He is year round and I am pretty sure that Golic makes more money for his job. I'm sure if ESPN came to Herbie and said "we will pay you more and give you a daily show" Herbie would jump on it in a heartbeat.
what I mean by saying Herbie would want Golic's position, not to be Golic! Was talking more about the job itself.
Why do we even care who Herbie and Mussberger think will be the top teams next year? Part of the issue is that we as fans allow ourselves to feel disrespected and put off by things that talking heads say or writers write far too much.
but unfortunately that is the very essence of being a fan. Overzealous and mad over something is actually in the definition of fanatic.
Plus I think it carries more weight with some because of Herbstreit. I mean, people would get mad too if Teddy Bruschi gave his list of potential super bowl winners and New England wasn't on it despite the fact that NE deserves to be mentioned through recent history and current record.
to be a former buckeye and not include a team that went 12-0 as a potential NC will and does irritate people.
Squirrel, I agree with all of your points. Herbie needs to put the shields down a bit and be less "PC" about OSU. EVERYONE knows he went there, it is ok to show us some love.
Ohio State VS Bama, TX A&M or LSU (doubt Oregon or anyone else will beat out an SEC team for that other spot in the NC game). You might as well bank that now...if OSU goes 13-0. SEC will be in the NC game if they have one lose or none....pretty easy to figure out. Let the SEC dominance BS begin now by ESPIN and every other outlet that covers CFB....weeeeeeeeeee!
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
If OSU is going to be so awful next year then the rest of the country shouldn't bother practicing or preparing for the Buckeyes. If they're so sure OSU will just get destroyed like ND did last night then nobody should respect us or believe we can beat them. The media should just continue on what they're doing. Sure ESPN, continue to preach that to the other schools. Continue to swell their heads that the SEC is light years ahead of everyone else. Continue to let those players buy into their own hype. It will make our victory that much sweeter when we punch them all in the mouth.
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
start the year at 6 or 7 and let the chips fall where they may. Rather have a little less spot light at the beginning of the year..
These two are paid to give analysis and opinion. If Mooseburger and Says-a-Me-Streit say we are not contenders they have expressed their opinion. A lot can happen between now and the next championship game. If thier chosen teams fail then it is they who look to be misinformed or have flawed analysis. Oregon could get whacked with sanctions by summer who knows.
I don't know what makes Herbie tick and I probably don't want to know. I take what he says with a grain of salt. I am sure Urban and the team can channel this as energy and come out in the end.