It has some legs..would be interesting to say the least
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/276319/45/Browns-have-sights-on-Oregons-Chip-Kelly
As a browns fan, im not sure how I feel about this...
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I just don't think he can get the right guys to run his offense in the NFL. I guess Darron Thomas or Jeremiah Masoli might be available. I think it's a gimic offense that NFL defenses would figure out sooner than later. It's a great package to run for guys like Newton, RGIII, or even Vick, but I don't think you could have long term success running this as a base offense. Also, good luck getting NFL guys to run plays every 16 seconds.
IMO, I'd take Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, or Lovie Smith over Kelly. I would love for us to steal Saban away from Bama.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
yeah, just imagine Brandon Wheedon trying to run that offense. LOL
Don't know the validity of it, but supposedly Weeden was asked and has already basically said "I can't run Kelly's offense", which of course was stating the obvious.
Yeah, I saw the same thing. Think it was on the PD site. Can you imagine him running a zone read? Might as well put a bullseye on his chest.
Imagine Brandon Wheedon trying to play QB... oh wait... we can see that train wreck every Sunday!
Except during the playoffs
As a Browns fan, I'm wondering, what are these playoffs you speak of?
some sort of mythical beast? maybe like a chimera...
did i hear chimmer?
I could be wrong but I believe it's an old wooden ship...
Scotch Scotch Scotch. I love Scotch.
i hear tim tebow is looking for a job.
ugh as a browns fan i hope not on both accounts
When will this franchise learn that players win games, not coaches? Last time I checked Mike Shanahan wasn't throwing any passes... but RGIII....
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you make a pretty good point here-- however, I dont know that RGIII has the same success in a different system. Shanahan has basically implimented the same offense that RGIII was running at Baylor!
I believe it takes a solid mixture of scheme AND talent to win games at any level.
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This is true. Shanahan's son has taliored the offense the Redskins run to suit Griffin.
I would more completely state this as the Redskins went after Griffin since they saw a unique fit for their zone running scheme and his skill set and then also incorporated more spread concepts that open up the zone running game even more. I think they have the highest ceiling of any NFL offense at the moment. It's not like defenses are going to figure them out. This isn't the Wildcat but instead it is a sound offense that takes what the defense gives and exploits tendencies.
Which is what the Broncos did with tebow until they realize it won't work against highly disciplined front seven teams like the texans, patriots, broncos.
Also the two teams with the highest ceiling are the patriots.
With Brady being who he is ,and having the weapons he has at the wideout position and tight end teams do not have a favorable matchup at all against them. If you think about it the only thing that has slowed them down has been injuries.
Do you think RGIII and the Redskins offense would have been able to contest SanFransisco like New England did after being down that much?
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I wonder if he'd bring in Vick to be his QB?
I don't think Kelly will translate well coaching in the NFL.
3 words. No thank you.
As a Browns fan I would take a failed Chip Kelly experiment, if it meant my more beloved Bucks would land Dontre Wilson!
That's exactly what I was thinking Buck. With the off chance the the Chip Kelly experiment actually works it could be a win-win for Browns/Buckeyes fans.
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Rumor is if Browns hire Kelly then Mike Lombardi would be hired as personnel guy. And Lombardi would hire Bernie as part of the personnel dept. Bernie recently endorsed Lombardi as a good hire for the Browns.
I think he'll have an NFL job whether it's the Browns or someone else
As a Steelers fan this would make me LOL.
"if irony were made of strawberries, we' d all be drinking a lot of smoothies right now."
As a Steelers fan this would concern me greatly about how long it might take LeBeau to make adjustments to this sort of offense. old Dick just seems to be getting a bit slower in the adjustments the last few seasons.
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He's not the oly one getting old and slower on your team.
i just wish dick would retire from nfl and come to cbus
I don't really have an opinion as to what team he lands with, I am just excited to see his offense in the NFL! Whether you love him or hate him, you have to give credit to the guy being an unbelievable offensive mind!
Remember that in the end you will be judged not by what you believed, planned or dreamed; but, by what you did.
I disagree. His offense is gimmicky, and it only works because he has access to the fastest players in the country that he lures in with Nike and stigma.
He can't get anyone that he wants in the pros and NFL defensive schemes are vastly more complex than the simple defenses taught to college kids. Not to mention, in a weak PAC 10.
It's not gimmicky, and I think that is the most overused copout when talking about spread offenses.
Fair enough, but can you name a successful/comparable offense in the NFL, past or present? And no, the full house pistol in Washington does not qualify, it was tailored to RGIII and my contention is that Kelly is a one-trick pony.
I agree with you, Buck-I.8.
The defenses that cause Kelly's offense problems are those with stout defensive lines who can get penetration into the backfield. It doesn't really even have to be consistent penetration, either. As long as the threat is there to affect the mesh point on the read-option, it has caused him problems since he much more prefers running the ball than throwing.
He may be a player's coach, or someone who has the perfect mentality for the NFL, but unless he makes some philosophical changes, I just don't see it working out too well against professional defensive players, especially without a decided speed advantage to which he has grown accustomed.
"What we do in life echoes in eternity"
My main point isn't necessarily that he can't make his offense work in the NFL, it's more that he done little to show that he's some sort of brilliant offensive coach. I don't think he really has much more than his version of the spread in his repertoire, and for a team like the Browns that are showing growth for the first time since the mirage of 2007, I'd hate to flatline because a stubborn coach that tries to run an offense with ill-fitting personnel takes it back to square one.
Chip Kelly to the Eagles is my uninformed prediction. Browns are more likely to get O'Brien if they get a college coach, or Lovie Smith or someone else with head coaching experience. Like others said, Weeden (and Richardson imo) do not fit Kelly's system.
And I think Kelly could do well in the NFL. The Eagles makes the most sense to me as they have the most Lamichael James / Barner / DeAnthony Thomas type of players in Maclin, Jackson, McCoy, etc. that are key to what he wants to do. His system isn't as QB-centric as Urban's system but the QB does still need to be a running threat. I think he likely looks for a QB in the draft to compete with Foles (who isn't a burner but not a statue either). Someone like EJ Manuel in 3rd-4th round would make some sense.
So... Nick Saban said no?
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I honestly hope we land Nick Saban, Bring back one of our old guys, and take a shot at the SEC. I know many hate him, but he is an excellent coach. Collin Cowturd made a good point, He has to be getting sick of recruiting and traveling as he gets older, and he's seen Pete Carroll have success his 2nd time around the league. Not sure Saban would want Weeden though, but the new ownership might not be afraid to deal him if the right coach comes in.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
Only if Willie Lyles can be on the staff too.
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Would Chip Kelly make it work? Hell, I don't know. Would it bring interest and excitement? Yes, please. No more Pat Shurmurs.
Kelly to the Browns and he trades for...Terrelle Pryor
assuming Carson Palmer isn't available :)
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Ugh. Factory of Sadness, why??? It's like they hate winning.
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes
I thought the Steve Spurrier experiment would have ended this idea of importing quirky offenses. O'Brien's buyout (what I read was about 19 mil) is too steep.
Personally, I'd be happy with round 2 of Martyball.
Why no love for Dick Jauron - he didn't have any real success in his other two HC jobs, but the defense this year was darn good. Could the third time be the charm?
I really like Jauron, and he keeps getting jobs with shitty teams, so I wouldn't mind keeping him around.
If it brings OSU Dontre Wilson, then we should all rejoice.
Eventually the NFL will begin adopting the Power Spread offenses for the 2 reasons:
1. His offense would save NFL owners millions of dollars. The QB's it takes to run his system are dime a dozen whereas we all know the exorbitant cost and extreme rarity of the few guys like Manning, Montana and Marino.
2. Everything that Ross has ever written on here about Urban/Herman offense that OSU is now running. It can't be beaten because of simple arithmetic.
Don't you think if there was such a thing as an offense that "can't be beaten", it would be used in the NFL? And the NFL vs. NCAA difference is two different playing fields.
I should say, the offense that will work in the NFL will surely evolve somewhat from what we see in college.
To answer your question no. The NFL is so insular and stodgy about their ways of doing things I really think it's more about stubborness about old ways than any other reason that they haven't adopted it sooner.
I disagree, but there's no empirical evidence at this point, so I suppose time will tell.
Yup....time will tell.
Has the NCAA driven the NFL schemes or has the NFL driven college schemes?
Name me one team that's beaten the Meyer/Herman spread power option? I joke
I think if you ask any coach in NFL if they had to choose between the Redskins offense and New England's/Bronco's offense they would all choose either New England's or Bronco's.
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Great example. Just so happens each team have hall of fame qb's. That's my point, the odds of winning that lottery are incredibly slim and the cost of keeping that qb on your team is immense. The future is in treating qb's no different than any other replaceable part of a team and to build an offense around that premise that also takes advantage of the 11 vs 11 issue.
Almost any team that brings him in is going to have to completely change their roster because of his offense. Also, against teams with a good defensive line his teams have not fared very well
Id hate it but I think he is in their 2nd tier of coaches after gruden cowher saban. The browns are giving their hc full control over personell won't even have a gm but a personell director. They will be willing to pay as much as anyone. They have a talented (thanks heckert) super young roster ready to turn the corner. Team is way under the cap. I think its an extremely attractive package and think they will land one of the 3 i mentioned.
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If the Browns hire Kelly, they should then, immediately start their 2015 coaching vacancy search.
I'd actually be ok with the hire because we would go 0-12 and end up with Clowney.
The NFL season is 16 games long?
Oh hot damn I'm still in bowl season mindset. Though to be fair, when you're a Browns fan, the first 12 games are usually the only ones I can see through my tears
So glad I'm not a Browns fan would love to see this move happen cause it screws the Browns and Oregon (my dads favorite team).
Tremendous - wish I had thought of that
Rumors swirling around Cleveland too that if Chip Kelly were hired Alex Smith would be the top target at QB. Definitely an interesting proposition; we'll have to wait and see if Urban's former protege gets the nod.
Might as well up our number of starting quarterbacks along with head coaches.
But I do like Alex Smith, he would be an excellent get for the Browns.
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes
IMO, the Browns do not need anymore experiments. This is not a team for someone to "try out" they need someone with some experience to come in and run things. I would love for them to make a pretty strong run at Lovie Smith. I could see him making things work at cleveland.
Agree. Get Lovie and get ready for the draft.
The Browns want an offensive minded Head Coach from reports, therefore I highly doubt Lovie is a serious candidate. I think that's what keeps Chip Kelly as a top choice, which as a Browns fan I love. Surely he will not run his spread read all the time but more as a part of his offense. My personal hunch is Kelly ends up in Philly and Nick Saban, although not an offensive juggernaut will end up in Cleveland no later than next Wednesday.
Chip must've seen this video to pique his interest
at least we're not detroit! ;)
I know they had been saying they wanted an offensive coach and the one I read up on before was josh mcdaniels which I would be okay with but I don't want this offensive minded coach. I think this would be train wreck for our young team. I personally would like someone with more nfl experience and not a coach coming directly out of college football. Especially one who runs an offense as they do in Oregon
Everyone is so quick to say the Chip Kelly offense won't work in the NFL, but no one seems to have an example. If there had been several failed attempts at running the spread, I'd be more inclined to believe the criticism. The wildcat doesn't count. If you never throw from the wildcat ( which most teams don't) you can't expect success running. And to say chip Kelly can't get the same talent in the NFL would be a little off base. Guys like LaMichael James aren't exactly starting for all 32 teams. So as a browns fan bring on Chip Kelly. Why not take a chance? It can't be any worse than the previous ten years of offense.
James doesn't start for his team.
Not the point.
of what?
Two words why James didn't start.....Frank Gore.....
Give him time, he's shown the last few games he will be just fine.
The point I was trying to make is that guys like James are readily available. James is an example. He's not a starter and could be available in the trading market for very little.
Spurrier tried his run and gun - didn't work in Washington. Not identical but not all that different.
Besides, from what I've seen, that offense has been successful going against poor defensive teams. A good defense can shut that offense down (albeit not shut them out) (see our Rose Bowl win)
Kelly is smart and passionate, two important components of a successful head coach. He's not going to come to the league without adapting his offense to the pro game. Couple his attitude with a tough D Cord and I think it could work. I wouldn't have any more confidence in any of the other options. It still is Cleveland, after all.
Versions of the zone read are being used in the NFL now with success. Tajh Boyd may have just hit the lottery.
I'm thru going old school and shaking the Belichick tree and hiring whatever falls out.
What do the Browns have to lose?
Class of 2010.
more games?
and....
....more fans?
I'm not a browns fan, but as a casual observer it seems as though Browns fans are pretty loyal, and wouldn't leave the team due to another poor season. I would say go for Chip if he doesn't work out your not really worse off than now.
Browns fans are some of the most loyal you will ever find. What I find from most is that while we are all frustrated and disappointed, it's like we wear it as a badge of honor to suffer through it together. Also, most of us, if we're old enough, remember the success that the Browns used to enjoy and can hope that someday soon those days will return. Some fans though have left, and I can't really blame them. There's only so much crap some can take. Most though have stayed. The thing we don't want as fans is more of the same. As a fan I don't want more of the same bad personnel decisions, hiring of bad coaches, instability, and not winning.
See Butch Davis...the new owner is too smart to bring in a college guy (which rarely works)...
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Yeah, let's hire a guy with experience. I believe Romeo Crennel is available.
....and the downvoting has reached a new low. Really? It's a picture of a helmet and the name of a team. Please read the "on downvotes" plea by the owner of this site.
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Can we please, just this once, hire a guy with solid nfl experience please? Tired of former belichik assistants, old college coaches and unproven coordinators. Please jimmy haslam, DO NOT DO THIS! Chip kelly's system might work great at oregon and put them in bcs games every season. I just do not see it being a good fit for cleveland. Especially not now that they have assembled a nice young base of talent. There are still holes, and a lot of mental errors that come from youth and inexperience. I for one am hoping for a guy who has nfl level head coaching experience. Tired of scrapping a coach every few years.
One could also argue though, as Urban Meyer has, that the NFL is vanilla, conservative and boring because the same coaches get recycled year after year.
It's sad that only a few teams like Washington take a chance on new concepts, or hiring new blood from the college ranks.
I think Kelly could succeed as long as he was ready to adapt and learn -- unlike Steve Spurrier.
But then again, maybe he should be a coordinator first.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
The browns do not have the personnel to make any form of his system work. You just spent a high pick on a qb. You spent a high pick on a prototypical pro style rb. It doesn't fit. Hopefully if he interviews and sees what the roster has to offer, he will politely walk away and find a better fit for him. Not saying I don't like kelly, but I want an nfl guy. Mainly for the fact that my browns have begun assembling a nice young talent base defensively and offensively. Just need the right blend of experience to sprinkle in, and a coach who is proven to be able to work through mental errors created by youth and inexperience.
That is why I don't think kelly fits the bill. A team like kc? Perfect...they have no qb, a stud rb who would fit his offense. And a young defense that could match the offensive tempo. He could go in, draft a qb tailor made for his offense, and mold that team in hi image. Kansas city is a prime opening for kelly.
I'd rather take a chance on getting the next great one, rather than picking through another team's trash.
I don't want Chip Kelly, I can't imagine us feilding a respectable AFC North style defense under his leadership, he's an offensive guy. Besides that, I can see serious personell changes if he comes in. Trent Richardson battled injuries but he has serious potential, I wanted him more than RG3 & I may be the only one. (I didn't wanna give up so many picks, I thought Heckert made good draft picks). Will Chip Kelly be able to utilize Trent? Idk, he likes fast guys. Trent is fast, but he's not all speed. Trent has more moves than most of Kelly's RB's ever will, but I can still see him being misused. Josh gordon is good, will he be utilized or replaced for pure speed? I can see the Browns becoming the Rodriguez Wolverines of the NFL if this happens. Go for Saban, or nobody at all. I know Haslem has good intentions, but this seems more like a PR stunt than a smart football move. Please no.
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Of all the coaches that could make the jump from NCAA to NFL ... he's very far down on the list. Only way he could be successful is if he snags someone like RGIII to run an offense he's accustomed to.
JT
I disagree. I think the league is intrigued with the concepts that form the base of his system at the moment. Just take a look at the Redskins (RGIII), Seahawks (Russell Wilson), 49ers (Colin Kaepernick), and Panthers (Cam Newton). We know Vick and Tebow will be on the open market and, while they're certainly not ideal, one or both could assist in the expirement. Pryor and Dennis Dixon would probably be looked at as low cost guys who fit the system. Pat White and Troy Smith are far less likely but still possibilities I think.
Hence why I said he'd only be successful with a QB like that.
JT
Only one person can fix Cleveland sports:
Too soon?
If by "fix" you mean "choke" year after year, sure.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
If by "choke" you mean play with a bunch of garbage players every year and drag them through the playoffs, then yes you are right.
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
If by "garbage" players you mean guys who helped him get the best record in the East back to back years, then you'd be correct.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
If by "East" you mean Delonte West becoming Lebron's new Stepfather and forcing him to listen to his mamma and return to Cleveland, then yes you'd be correct.
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If by "guys who helped him get the best record in the east back to back years" you mean "guys that stood around in the playoffs and let LeBron get triple teamed and still score", you'd be correct
^^^^this
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
If by "stood around" you mean helped the Cavs get to the ECF, then you'd be right.
Acting as if LeBron was constantly triple teamed is lol worthy.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
If by "and still score" you mean when he felt like it, you'd be correct
Name one guy on the Cavs in 2009 and 2010 that is even a notch below a star. Good luck!
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
Mo Williams made the All-Star team.
Head shot!
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Haha so he's a notch below a star? That's the best you can do? What team does he come off the bench for now?
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
He plays for the Jazz now, and is hurt, so he's not even coming off the bench.
Also, he wasn't an All Star choice in 2009. He was added late as an alternate who was picked to play because Chris Bosh was hurt and the East needed a replacement for their roster.
Sadly, Williams, an inconsistent Antawn Jamison, and a washed up Shaq are probably the best players Cleveland had with James.
Have you forgotten Andy?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Andy was not a starter for all of 09 & 10. I would argue that he's gotten better and come into his own moreso without James.
If you don't follow what goes on in the NBA why are you commenting on it?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
I was just pointing out mo is a bench player, what LeBron did in 2007 with that crappy team was a near miracle and you say he's a choker? Please.
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
U must not watch nba. He was on the bench one time in his career behind cp3 n still played starter minutes. When he got to utah he was immediately the focal point of their offense. I'm a lbj fan but u don't have the best team in the reg season in back to back yrs without help. When he was in cle he choked in playoffs his last 2 yrs no doubt. Mo was an all star z was also an all star while was there. He needed another superstar to win it but so did shaq. Again I'm an kbj fan but also a cavs fan n
he had enough help to win it all if he kept up his play from the reg season in his mvp yrs but he didn't.
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Well since we are considering Mo Williams a true all star, explain him shooting 41% in the cavs two playoffs appearances with him, he didn't "choke"?. Also, I'm not impressed he's the focal point of a middling NBA team, but we've gotten off topic. LeBron never got the right guys in Cleveland to get him over the hump, that's the bottom line. He "choked" while avg 27 8 7 in his playoff career there. Mo Williams and Z were NAMED all stars but no one on earth thinks they're 2 of the best 24 players in the league in those years. When the cavs would play Boston, the celts had 4 of the 5 best players in the series, no doubt about it.
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
The Oregonian's story on Kelly leading into tonight's game. Worth the read.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2013/0...
Interesting note on "walking free" away from a mess. If sanctions are given to programs when former coaches are the. I the NFL, does the NFL have an obligation, because they set the standard with TP and The Vest, to suspend the coaches for 6-8 games? I think this Keillor come back to haunt them when some coaches have been at a team for a year or two and suddenly they are faced with a decision to suspend them for violating NCAA rules. I think it was stupid to suspend TP and The Vest to begin with in the NFL, but is that now the standard?
I agree with the article that Oregon fan wouldn't give back those years as I feel the same way about the decade prior for OSU.
I don't know about how the nfl might respond. You're right, they have hinted at holding college coaches accountable if they break ncaa rules. Strangely, however, I don't hear much about Pete Carroll's past when people are raving about the Seahawks team this year.
Haha The lebron post was great . Good luck chip. Personally I would not venture in to unknown water.. Stick to what your good at running your up tempo spread in college. On second thought I would like to see you succeed in running the spread in the NFL just to see if it can be successful which idk about it. But good luck and watch out cause optimusklein is coming your way tonight.
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i think the browns need to stick with some NFL experience coaches and make a move for ken wisenhunt.
My question is if he leaves, which school will he coach after he fails in the NFL. I just don't see him being succesful no matter where he would go. Maybe I'm wrong. Also Texas just might be looking for a new coach in a couple of years.