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Urban's Legacy at tOSU

Honestly, How many titles will it take for Urban to mark his legacy as the greatest coach at tOSU history and how many do you believe he will get within his tenure?

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tunehtraef on 19 Dec 2012 - 9:11pm #

I think he would need 3 championships min. to be even discussed along side Woody, as long as the M*chigan record was at least a 90% win percentage. It's more difficult to win championships now than in the past with more parity in cfb, but 3 would be a min. still!

I see Meyer staying at tOSU for 12 seasons (1 already done) to be age 60 when he retires.  If he can stay at the top of recruiting and pull some of the best talent year after year, I say he wins 2, but hope he wins 4...

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Hoody Wayes on 19 Dec 2012 - 9:16pm #

4. 

He will win - at least - 4 National Championships, at Ohio State.

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UrbzRenewal on 19 Dec 2012 - 9:17pm #

I think he will be here for five years, going 1-1 in NCGs, which would not put him near Woody or even Tress.

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highwire on 20 Dec 2012 - 1:23am #

This response raises the question, "WTF is up with your username then?"

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Remington2323 on 20 Dec 2012 - 4:31pm #

5 years? No way, longer than that.

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BME_Buckeye on 19 Dec 2012 - 9:29pm #

How many titles will it take for Urban to mark his legacy as the greatest coach at tOSU history? 

Its gonna take 5 titles, 10 titles...

How many do you believe he will get within his tenure?

He'll probably get 2-3 titles, all 10 titles and pass Bama's Bear Bryant.

Ohio State's band SLAUGHTERED Michigan's band. If this were a football game, it would have been Florida State vs. Savannah State. - SB Nation following OSU vs. UM 2012 
 

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ShowThemOhiosHere on 19 Dec 2012 - 9:41pm #

Well, Woody won 5 in 28 years.  I'd base it on how many years Urban stays in comparison.  I think Urban would have to stay at least 10 years and win at least 2 titles to really put himself in that conversation.

Class of 2010.

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Maestro on 20 Dec 2012 - 12:33am #

Really.

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highwire on 20 Dec 2012 - 1:30am #

When Tress initially donned the Scarlet and Grey, would anyone have predicted the result? It's far too early to guess the outcome, but, Meyer is off to a great start. Even better, he is no doubt one of the most talented leaders to pace the sideline in Columbus.

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luckynutz on 20 Dec 2012 - 1:59am #

He's one year in to his tenure. Does his body of work suggest great success here at ohio state? It certainly does. And he has the national recruiting appeal cooper had. With the ability to understand that you can't ignore in state kids like tress and woody. He's off to a good start. Hope he stays 10-15 years. That would be optimal IMO. And id say with the resources he has, his ability to pull in top notch assistants and talent and his track record, one could make a case for a couple crystal footballs in the trophy case at WHAC before he hangs up the whistle.

Id say that would put him in the convo with woody...but how does one top woody? The mans an icon and legend, and the bulk of his career was spent pacing the sidelines of the shoe. I wasn't alive when woody coached...I was born 3 years after he was fired. But his name, coaching style and accomplishments are something I can recall with relative ease. He is ohio state football to me...

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sir rickithda3rd on 20 Dec 2012 - 4:03am #

im just hoping we can get 10-15 yrs out of urban...if he stays 15-20 i think he possibly could win 5-7 championships... i know of all the coaches out there that tosu had a chance of getting he is my number one fav guy

mark may wins douchebag of the year... again

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osubuck57 on 20 Dec 2012 - 8:56am #

If he's here anywhere close to Tress' tenure,I'd guess 2-3!! Love how this staff is just relentless in everything they do.Hardly seems like they sleep.lol

SCOTTC.

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jthiel09 on 20 Dec 2012 - 9:04am #

To early to tell but he's gonna need more than 1 to be the "Greatest" coach in OSU history.

JT

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hail2victors9 on 20 Dec 2012 - 9:13am #

I honestly don't see Urban ever being considered a better OSU coach than Woody---or anyone else, for that matter.  I personally think Tressel will be number 2.  Now had Urban gone directly from Utah to OSU and already had those two titles under his belt, I think it's a whole new ball game, but Woody is "Legendary," while Urban will always be known as great coach. 

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

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btalbert25 on 20 Dec 2012 - 4:38pm #

I have a feeling people won't have a problem replacing Tressel as number 2 on that list.  You see it already.  It just depends what Urban does from here on out.  If he is able to lead the team to another undefeated year and a title next season he may already replace Tressel is the eyes of many.  It just depends on how his career here shakes out.  If after 6 years he has 2 titles and multiple B1G titles and for the team to have a title or 2 he'll neede undefeated seasons, he'll easily rank ahead of Tressel.

If there are several disappointments and the best his teams ever do was the 12-0 year they just experienced, well then no he won't rank ahead of Tressel.

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hail2victors9 on 21 Dec 2012 - 9:36am #

I can see that.  I think the jury is still pretty split on Tressel for OSU fans.  If Urban wins a title or two, he would make a case.  To me, Tressel was just so connected to OSU, in every way.  It's like nothing was forced.  He just loved OSU so much and believed in every one of its traditions and started or restarted some others.  I always felt like OSU was the blood that ran through the man's veins.  Oh, and he beat Michigan 9 out of 10 tries.

I know Urban is from here and worked under Bruce, and everything, but I think it will always be Florida Meyer and OSU Meyer, which will hurt his legend as one of OSU's best.  Obviously, if he stays for 15 years that argument could be put to bed and he could easily be #2.  Still think that Woody has a GI Joe Kung Fu grip on the number one spot, just like Bo is Michigan's even if Hoke wins multiple titles or Rose Bowls and even with Fielding Yost being one of the premier coaches, historically, to ever coach.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

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Jugdish on 21 Dec 2012 - 10:13am #

Woody and Bo will always be held in high esteem by their universities. I think there are some from each opposing team who still get it and have respect for the opposing coach. The relationship has been labeled as teacher and student. It was such a fun time in the rivalry. Who would have thought that Zach Boren would have a wristband that he wore in games with the name Bo on it. You can be a Buckeye through and through but still respect your opponent.

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buckeye76BHop on 21 Dec 2012 - 11:47am #

Wow Hail...what's gotten into you...???  I'm really liking what you've been saying lately on here....and agree with this above 110% (up votes for you;-)  Woody's always will be #1...at this point Tress # 2 and Urban will inevitably be #3...unless he wins over 4 titles.  Do I think that will happen...no.  He'll at best win 2 or 3...a 4th seems to be a bit much...but time will tell.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

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Doc on 20 Dec 2012 - 9:24am #

Woody will always be tops at OSU.  His mystique and lore grow every year.  Urban, well we'll have to wait and see.  I hate all of this discussion about his end date when he is just getting started.  Let's enjoy him now and let him write his own legacy.  Enjoy the ride folks, because no matter how long he is here it won't be long enough.

This is like dating Heidi Klum.  While you are dating her you worry the entire time how you are going to remember her when she is gone.  Instead of enjoying her while you got her.  Love her now and maybe she'll never leave.  :\

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Poison nuts on 20 Dec 2012 - 9:32am #

Can I get an amen?!

The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.

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Oyster on 20 Dec 2012 - 9:34am #

About the Woody comments or dating Heidi Klum?

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216ToThe614 on 20 Dec 2012 - 2:38pm #

Urban can obtain legendary status here. It wasn't given to Woody solely for the number of titles, but rather for his longevity. If he stays a long time, which means he is obviously still winning every year, he can have his name tossed in there with Woody for the best ever at tOSU. Look at Alabama with Bear Bryant and now Saban. Didn't they just put up a statue of Nick Saban recently to go along with the one of Bear? I think its fair that you can argue those two for the best ever at Alabama like you could Urban and Woody if he hangs around long enough, because he will win titles wherever he goes.

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!

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hodge on 20 Dec 2012 - 11:51am #

Urban would have to make this a looooong stop if he wants to be known as OSU's greatest.  I mean, I can't even consider Tressel anywhere near Woody's ballpark because he only made it through a decade; Woody coached the program for 28 seasons, almost three times longer than Tressel.  That doesn't take anything away from Tressel's accomplishments, but you can't just be successful, you've got to be successful for a long time.  Why is Paul Brown--one of the greatest football coaches of all time--considered a relative footnote in Ohio State's Pantheon of Coaches?  Because he only coached here for three seasons--even though he won a national title.  

Just look at the great coaching legends of College Football: Rockne, Yost, Royal, Neyland, Schembechler, Hayes, Paterno, Bryant, Switzer, Osborne, Bowden...what do they all have in common?  A long, storied tenure with the program they made their career coaching.  If Urban wants to make an indelible mark similar to the one of Wayne Woodrow Hayes, he's going to have to coach here a lot longer than his contract stipulates--oh, and he's going to need at least three titles to go along with that.

Granted, the modern coach has proven to be a little different.  We've seen a lot more job-hopping from marquee coaches--NFL jumps from elite coaches like Jimmie Johnson, Steve Spurrier, and Nick Saban all come to mind--and it seems like teams are much more quick to pull the trigger on a coach when the going gets tough, so I wonder how many coaches really can stay at the head of a major program for more than 15-20 years (Hell, Mack Brown's been at UT for 14 years, and his prospects are appearing ever-dimmer).  Maybe guys like Saban are going to become the norm; staying at schools for 5-10 years, eviscerating the competition and moving on.  If that's indeed the case, Meyer will need a Saban-like dynasty of dominance to be considered among Woody Hayes (but not surpassing him, do you think any old-timers in Tuscaloosa believe Saban to be greater than Bear?).

I've long been a proponent of the belief that Meyer will stay here for 12+ years.  He's going to be an empty-nester soon, his game (and style) doesn't translate to the NFL (plus, he has no ambitions for that), he loves coaching, and I don't see him leaving this place.  If he makes it to 15 years, flat-out dominates the B1G, and wins consistently on the national stage, the Woody comparisons can begin--until that happens, he's just not worthy.

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216ToThe614 on 20 Dec 2012 - 2:37pm #

Exactly

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!

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CC on 20 Dec 2012 - 8:48pm #

Had Tressel won the 2 national championship games I would put him up there with Woody.

If Urban wins 3 + this year's undefeated in any number of years I would put him up there with Woody.

National championships are what matter to me.  If he had 4 national championships + this year's undefeated team I would look at him as the best ever including Woody.

To me this year counts as about a half of a national championship.

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Nkohl13 on 20 Dec 2012 - 2:52pm #

Urban will never loose a game in his 20 year tenure as our head coach.

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jestertcf on 20 Dec 2012 - 8:52pm #

maybe not but the question i ask is will he lose a game??

~Because we couldn't go for three~

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btalbert25 on 20 Dec 2012 - 2:54pm #

I'm not sure he'll ever be credited as the best coach in Ohio State history.  Personally, a few titles and a decade of dominance allow me to say he is the greatest in Ohio State history and 3 titles with a decade of dominance here may make him the greatest coach in NCAA history in my mind, but there will be many who will say the only reason Urban was able to have that level of success was because Woody built the program years ago. 

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btalbert25 on 20 Dec 2012 - 4:58pm #

Urban could really go down as one of the 5 greatest coaches in college football history.  He already had 2 national titles.  He has an undefeated season coaching a non BCS team who was probably good enough to play in the National Championship game.  He has an undefeated season with a school that was on probation and would likely have played for the national title.  So in 11 years as a head coach, he's won 2 titles, and has had 2 teams worthy of winning or playing for a title.  If he stays here 10 years, I don't think it's crazy to think he'll have 3 titles.  He may not get that many and he could possibly win more who knows.

So after a 20 year career I'm going to assume he'll have 5 titles, plus the Utah and Ohio State undefeated teams that were left out.  That puts him as one of the all time greatest coaches to ever coach college football.  He'll have exceeded greats like Osborn, Bowden, and yes Woody.  Yet, he'll always be number 2 at Ohio State.  Which, overall is understandable.  He would of made significant milestones of his career elsewhere, where Woody achieved his greatness in Columbus alone.

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rickyu22 on 20 Dec 2012 - 5:40pm #

I think Urban will retire from here. His comments about the assistant coaches leaving better be because they are becoming a Head Coach, and his comments about this is the only place that could have drawn him out of retirement shows that he is here for the long run. 

I think once we start winning national titles back to back and gain the lead in the series against ttun he will be listed among the likeness of Woody and Tressel. But i think 3-4 seals him as the great he is! 

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