One of the greatest injustices in college football, has played a part in making many of its national champions, mythical. Too many teams from warmer climates have enjoyed the advantage of playing for this title - either in their own backyard or in weather conditions to which they are accustomed.
If you've watched this evening's Pinstripe Bowl, it's plain to see that snowy weather has not kept the fans away from Yankee Stadium. The attendance for this game is certainly no worse than the other bowls that have been played to this point. And there's something about the snow that makes a football game more special.
Other than the Rose Bowl, there is no better venue for the national championship game than, New York City.
I expect the Steinbrenner's will make sure that New York and Yankee Stadium will play host to this event - and on January 1st.
Imagine watching the ball drop in Times Square on New Year's Eve and Ohio State facing either USC or an SEC team for the title, on day one of the new year.
Then, maybe we'll see just how much of an advantage that weather can have, in crowning college football's champion.
At least from a TV viewer perspective, football games in snow are much more fun to watch.
New York City is not a great venue for a college National Championship game. NY is not a college sports town. Chicago would be a better venue for a National Championship.
If the Bears had a turf field it would be more likely to happen. There couldn't be a complaint about injuries
Chitown is a level colder than NYC.
That said I went to the Pinstripe bowl 2 years ago (K-State/Cuse), the game was much colder than this year, very few fans, poor sightlines, expensive etc. I've been to lots of college football games and that was one of the worst.
OSU at Miami is still my #1 worst.
also, watching a football game in a baseball stadium is probably miserable. I was at the frozen diamond thing last year (hockey game between osu and mich at progressive field) and if you dont have great seats, you can't see a thing. But it was pretty cool to watch that game in the snow
I hate the Yankees.
I hate the Yankees.
I hate the Yankees.
However....I love this idea!!
“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.”
+1 to the OP.
If in NYC, new giants/jets stadium would seem to make more sense. And yes, I know it is in New Jersey.
I like this idea...but I'm biased... I will say there were so MANY drunk Mountaineers fans in the subway today.
The 2012 National Champions.
Lock up your sisters. Well, lock up their sisters anyway.
Hide their kids, Hide their sister, and Hide their cousins, cause they're drunk as f*** mountaineer fans.
Hate to tell you, but it's gonna be domes or Florida or Cali venues. I don't see any way NYC gets a NCG.
I realize they plan this stuff out ages ahead of time, I would just like to get to a point where we're not playing LSU in Louisiana for the Nat'l Championship. Most years it wouldn't happen, but goodness, that was one of the biggest jokes to me ever.
The only chance the Midwest has to host the NC game is Lucas Field. Personally, I think Jerry Jones will outbid everyone and keep that game in Texas. Anyone know if they will rotate game yearly (keeping one city from hosting it back to back?)
Detroit hosted a super bowl (did they have one in the Twin Cities?). Is there still a dome in Minneapolis?
Of course, who would want to go to Detroit?
And why not Denver - that would be sweet - weather and altitude. Love to see the Gators play there (on a rare excursion out of the state of Florida)
The national title in a northern state will probably never happen. I agree that Lucas Oil is the only chance and its Midwest, not northern.
You must also consider the weather at this time of year and the relationship it has to all of the festivities in the week before the game. I know us northerners/midwesterners wouldnt mind the cold weather for tailgating and other festivities, but i have a hard time imagining fans from texas, cali, florida, or sec country wanting to go up north even to Indy. The idea behind the warm weather locations for bowl games is to make the game in a city that is a destination for people to go to and frankly, spend a lot of money (and enjoy the weather too)
There won't ever be a national title game played in cold weather. I would love to see it though. I wonder how fast SEC teams would be in 30 degree weather?
On a side note: West Virginia has a pathetic defense. Every time they show Holgorson's puzzled face I just picture him thinking of why he cant score more points, and not thinking about how it wouldn't matter if he did because of his jankass defense.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
The NCG will go to the highest bidder. If a cold-weather city puts a big enough of a bid in they'll get it. NY/NJ is definitely getting a February, open-air Super Bowl. Who would've thought that would've been possible 10 years ago?
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
Your idea is not a good one. I find it very difficult to hold a NCG on January 1 when the semi-finals will be played on 12/31 and 1/1 in the new system. I highly doubt the Steinbrenner's care about this game at all. And yesterday the crowd was annoucned at 39,000, does this picture look like 39,000? Also it's a baseball stadium for a reason, it was made to watch baseball in not football. The sightlines would not work well. I am not sure how serious you were about this idea, but I am sure you could come up with a better one.
maybe the guy who counts Miami's attendance was counting for this bowl
I don't really like the idea of playing a NC game outside when it's snowing, too many fluke things can happen, leading to upsets that would have never happened otherwise. Then SEC fans can say that its unfair because they're now playing in weather they aren't accustomed too. If anything, they do need to play the national title or some BCS bowls up north where there are Dome stadiums such as Indy. That way the championship games won't always be in the SEC or USCs backyard every year and they'll be in door where weather or nothing else can decide the outcome except for the play on the field.
I think that nasty weather can make a ground pounding, fumble, dropped ball type of interesting game to watch. However, for the Naional Championship Game, I think that weather should not be the determining factor in who gets the bounce or whatever. Let the schemes and talent show how that team got there. Even though we see many playoff games in nasty weather in the NFL, the Super Bowl will always be in a warmer location. At least it appears that way.
The Super Bowl will always be in a warm location? It'll be in New York in a few years.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
never mind
I for one, am not a fan of bowl games in a cold climate. I've been to 4 OSU bowl games and I considered them as a vacation to get out of a cold central Ohio.
But yes, they are fun to watch on TV.
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
Yankee stadium would be a HORRIBLE venue to host the title game, it's a freaking baseball stadium that holds nowhere near the seating a major football stadium does.
And...you want the title game played where it's warm or in a dome. Nobody should want the weather to be the determining factor in deciding the outcome of the game.
Finally, the way our new offense is being constructed, we should want to play in a dome or warm weather climate.
Weather doesn't determine the outcome. I played in 4 national titles at Mount Union. We won three and lost one. The weather was shit in all 4. We were the better team in 3 and we weren't the better team in the other 1. We didn't say afterwards, if the weather was better we would have won. Weather is weather. The NCG is played in Miami and it could be played in a monsoon and no one says, NCG should not be played there cause it might rain. It should have the opportunity of being played in the south, the north, the west and the east.
Being the better team means being able to handle every weather condition, not just 65 and 10% humidity. Try playing a day game in Phoenix in August when it's 120. You have to be able to handle any situation.
my suggestion for the NCG, is whoever wins the NCG' they host it at their stadium the following year. I'm sure I will get down voted but don't care.
Purple Raider
Umm...weather certainly can factor into the outcome of a game. Check out Green Bay's winning percentage in sub freezing temps.
A grind it out conventional offense is going to fare better than a spread offense more times than not on a sloppy sloggy field.
My point is that when playing for the title prefer that the weather not be a factor in determining the outcome of the game.
What is their record in sub freezing?? I would have to assume its good because Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in nfl. I wouldn't call green bays offense a grind it out offense though. Weather is not as big of a factor as you think. If its a torrential down pour, it doesn't help any team better than another.
When football was invented I'm pretty sure they didn't care to much about the weather.
Purple Raider
I understand the interest in going on a vacation away from winter in Ohio, but I for one hope that before I die I get to see an SEC team lose to a midwestern school in a blizzard for the crystal. In the interest of having a fair NCG environment, I think this needs to happen. I don't know if home field advantage in the playoffs is the solution, but certainly more equal distribution of game location is necessary. My biased list of reasons for this is a mile long, but here are a few hopefully unbaised ones:
I'm pretty certain that if you look back at the history and formation of bowl games -- not as we now know them but as they once were -- the power conferences were all located in the colder climates of the northeast and midwest. I think the Rose Bowl, for example, was the brain child of NY'ers (or Ivy League east coasters anyway) to get out to the warm sunshine of southern California (and probably to sell real estate).
Anyway, it'd be ironic if a hundred years later we end up with the pinnacle bowl game, the national title, being played in the cold in New York City.
I simply cannot fathom anyone defending the position that inclement weather is not a significant factor. Especially considering you have warm climate teams that have never seen snow let alone play in it.
Add to the equation the vastly diverse style of offenses in college football.
I totally get why the title game should be played at a venue that negates any advantage to either team because of extreme weather conditions. It's a pretty simple concept.
Now if one wants to bitch and point out how the sec schools won't schedule games up north during the regular season...that's a legit beef.
A football field barely fits inside the stadium. So, no.
Taquitos.
I agree Yankee Stadium is a bad venue for a bowl game, but I like the effort of bringing the games back north.