PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
i think before this decade is out you will have 3 of 4 super confs and at least the the 4 team play off to start and i think it goes from there. the bowls are going to take hit at some point. traditions are dying and so will the bowls as we know it.
I dont know karate but i do know crazy and i'm not afraid to use it.
The ACC sure seems alot like the Big East of the 1990's with the addittions of Syracuse, Pitt, Miami fla, Boston College and Virginia Tech, but somehow, they don't seem as good as the Big East of the 1990's.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
not sure how Big East's collapse help the B1G get ND though. No way Delany allows ND to join unless it's all sports, and ND will never relinquish its football independency. I could be clueless though lol.
ND will not be an independent here in the next few years. If they are they will have to join the the Football Championship division that the non-superconference teams will make.
The comment section of that article reiterated how pompus ND fans are. One amazingly lucky season and they act like they are King of the Hill again. Here's to Bama knocking them back to reality.
"In the worse case scenario, the divorce gets worked out and no one has custody of the kid," he (Swarbrick) said. "I'm not looking to be independent in 26 sports."
Is it just me, or do quotes like this come off as extremely arrogant. Why would someone ever consider ND going Indy in all sports? In article about the options ND has, why does the AD have to always use this tone? I hope they join the ACC, then UNC, G-Tech, UVA, Clem, FSU, and Va Tech all leave.
I'm looking forward to looking up "Big East" basketball standings in early March 2014 and seeing the entire standings look something like this:
1. Connecticut 4-0*
2. Lousville 2-2
3. Rutgers 0-4
*Regular season champions!
Big East Tournament:
1st round: Rutgers (0-4) v. Louisville (2-2)
Championship Game: Winner of 1st Round v. Connecticut (4-0)
UConn may be gone by then, too
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.
It will be interesting to see if ND ends up in the B1G. It is no secret that Delaney is after them, but if they don't come, the B1G has a plan in place, with or without them.
As I posted on another thread, a B1G insider inviewed by Scout.com suggested that the most likely schools for B1G expansion based on what the presidents want are: Kansas, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, ND or Texas. While most think that Texas is a pipedream (myself included) the insider liked our chances of getting them. He said that if the PAC 12 decides to expand, the Big 12 is done. He said that the only way we don't get Texas is if the PAC 12 does.
The source also noted the schools that have no shot: Tennessee, Kentucky, Pitt, Cincinnati, Louisville, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech, NC State, UConn, Syracuse, Boston College. The insider seems to think that FSU doesn't have much of a shot either.
A couple of other nuggets that I didn't mention before: The B1G is thinking that there will be 3 or 4 super conferences with 16 to 20 teams and those conferences will likely leave the NCAA in football and start their own association. Gordon Gee already has hinted at this.
The B1G will be instituting an expenditure floor, meaning that all schools will be required to spend a certain amount of money on sport facilities (specifically football) and coaches' salaries (again, specifically football). Rutgers and Maryland were asked to show their financial strategic plan, including how they will improve their football facilities and personnel before they were allowed to join. The B1G doesn't want to lose the conference battle simply because their schools are not reinvesting enough money. Expect to see the difference in SEC vs. B1G coaching salaries to shrink in the coming years. Not sure when this expenditure floor will start, perhaps when MD and Rutgers joins, but at the latest it will be 2017. 2017, btw, is the end game date. At that time we will most likely have who we want. It is thought that things will shake out sooner than that. The insider said that they are waiting to see what happens with Maryland's buyout, but if moves occur elsewhere, the B1G will respond.
The thread discussing this, as of today, is 30 pages long with questions and answers, if you want more check it out Scout.com http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=145 Very informative but you have to pay to get the rest of the dirt.
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This is where it gets dicey for Notre Dame: If the PAC 12 continues to expand, they, more than likely, will go after an Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, or even a Texas. The B1G and SEC will want to respond, and that means going after the only institutions worth anything to them - others from the Big 12 and more from the ACC.
The three top dogs, when looking at revenue and potential stability, are the PAC, B1G, and SEC. If they invite someone to their conference, chances are good that school will listen and listen well. As the Big East, Big 12, and ACC crumble, and the reality of 4 super conferences becomes more apparent, a program like Notre Dame has to make a decision - do we get in somewhere while we still have a chance? Do we hitch our wagon to a conference (ACC) that may remain intact, but without many, if any, football powers?
There is a chance that Clemson, FSU, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, etc. could separate from the ACC, leaving them with mostly mediocre programs and forcing them to scramble to pickup leftovers in order to remain relevant. Now, Notre Dame must decide what is best for them in a new college football environment. The environment now allows them to be independent and still have a chance at TV revenue, bowl bids, BCS appearances, and so on. The new environment may not be as enticing for an independent. ND may not have a choice but to join a conference, and in the end the one that still makes the most sense is the B1G.
"What we do in life echoes in eternity"
I think ND being forced to join a conference has been the resounding sentiment since expansion started. I think that becomes even more logical if the intent of the larger conferences is to break away from the NCAA. If ND loses it's power as the NCAA collapses, a conference committment will be required at some point. They won't have the preferential treatment that they get now and, let's be honest, when that's gone, so is their desire to be independent. If I were ND, I'd fight to stay independent too. But at the same time, I think it'd be wise to understand what the play is here with conference expansion and know that fighting to be independent may not be a fight worth fighting.
We will never see ND in the B1G. I am surprised they are not working with the other Catholic schools to form a conference for all sports while keeping their football independence. Those schools want to be a basketball centric school which plays right into ND's football independence mindset. ND brand gives them some TV revenue generation from contracts. That collection of schools keeps the georgraphy north of the mason-dixon and satisfies a number of needs for each school. They could recruit BC and maybe a few others to finalize a Catholic league.
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