PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
...This highlight is awesome. And a great blast from the past. Not to mention a solid celebratory dance to top it off
Still don't like him. :/
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
I think the up and down votes on your post (and actually throughout this forum) are a good reflection of the polarizing figure that Kirk has become amongst Buckeye nation.
Regardless of opinion of him, that was a fun video. Plus, it led me down the YouTube rabbit hole and I rediscovered one of my favorite Ohio State fan moments:
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes
Do you know what year this is from?
2007 or 2009. I was at both games and was able to participate in the cheer going around the Big House. Also things were pretty bad in the RR days so I'd guess 2009.
2009 was the year I was just amazed at how much red there was in the Big House. When they first showed the stadium before the game I remember saying, is that for real? I was shocked by the amount of scarlet in the stands that day.
I was there and remembered being stunned by how many Buckeyes were there. I was sitting in the Meatchicken student section and had stuff thrown at me. It was awesome. I remember talking rationally with a few of their fans who weren't trashed, they actually admitted that RR's offense would not work. I actually almost felt sorry for the kids. It would suck to be a scUM student at that time (worst team in decades) sitting there with your sun colored "All in" shirt. ouch.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
That was such an odd year for The Game. I remember talking to some Michigan fans the week leading up to it and they wouldn't even say anything beyond "yeah, we know we're going to lose."
It was kind of depressing. It was actually when I switched to wanting a good Michigan team to beat...it's fun to watch them be terrible and lose to App State and Toledo, but it loses something when trying to smack talk Michigan fans is like talking to an Indiana fan before a game.
One of my favorite OSU moments ever. Look at that crowd: it's more red than blue. I love pointing out that game any time my scUM friends get too cocky. We broke their wills in half those years :)
"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes
Herbie had a run at the Shoe that was a lot shorter, but may have been even more impressive--one where he started scrambling left, and then completely reversed field and ran to the right for the score. I think this might have been the game against Washington State where we sacked Drew Bledsoe about 8 times and hit him a dozen more.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Sometimes you would think he never played here. He's just not very outgoing about his OSU love. Especially when his hubris co-host is always spouting garbage.
Wherever you are, there you be!
They play their roles. You don't see Corso commentating prime time games either, right? Herbstreit is angling to be one of, if not THE ESPN go-to CFB commentators. He's building a career. Corso gets paid to be a clown for 2 hours a week.
I've always liked Herbie and always will. Its a shame some of our over the top/crazy in other words, fan base made him feel compelled to move out of Upper Arlington. He can't be biased in his line of work...it gets deemed unprofessional. You don't hear too many get down on Chris Spielman...he tells it how it is if asked....why give Herbie a hard time for doing the same...???
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
People have less of an issue with Spielman because he stays consistent with his views, whether it's on a national ESPN broadcast, or local Columbus radio. Herbstreit has a reputation of not doing that. He'll be "unbiased" on ESPN but talk up the Bucks on local radio. That gives some fans an impression that he is either two-faced, or just a coward on national tv.
And believe me, Spielman says a lot of stuff when he broadcasts during our games where I just roll my eyes at the senselessness of the some of the things he says, but I respect him because he would say the same thing in Columbus, OH at a pep rally if asked, as you noted. Just my point of view.
Herbie has said that the move to TN had very little to do with crazy fans. Their house was on the market for 3 years before he made the remarks that caused a backlash from fans. One major difference I find with Speils is he doesn't get personal and Herbie does. Some of his comments about TP were out of line and childish. He got called a "fake buckeye" by an immature 19 year old QB and he, the adult and a professional sports figure, responded like an immature 19 year old.
Just a question I don't know the answer to: the house was on the market 3 years, but was a move planned out of the area originally, or was the out of state thing an added result to the crazy fans?
Someone in the media said something that I thought summed up media life pretty well: If you're in the business long enough, eventually you're going to say/write something you're not proud of.
I don't like what he said about N. Illinois recently, but sometimes you just have to shrug your shoulders and let people have their opinions.
sometimes you just have to shrug your shoulders and let people have their opinions.
sometimes you just have to shrug your shoulders and let people have their opinions.
Ain't that the truth.
The plan was to move to the south all along. Crazy fans or not, his family was moving eventually.
It makes no sense to me. He complains about crazy fans, then moves to SEC country?
I'm way late to this thread so I doubt this will be answered, but what did he say about N. Illinois? I missed it...
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
That's funny...I agree with Herbie on many things including TP and got treated the same here...guess I'm an immature 19 year old acting-adult (may be bc he, like me, saw how difficult it was to win those "trinkets" in the 2-10-1 era-as you so many here have dismissively called them at one point in time...bc you too don't understand, like many here, what it means to get those "trinkets"). Oh well...I don't care really what people here think of me...it's "supposed" to be a place where we "fans" can all come without feeling like we're making others "up set" over "simple" opinions...or in many cases here...a "simple" difference of said opinions.
Two words. Mark May. Proof you can be biased and still work as a college football analyst. Didn't say may was a good analyst, but they are both employed by the same network. Herbie is a company man. I don't hate herbstreit...he is doing the job espn pays him to do. Does he scream his love for osu from the rooftops for everyone to hear? No. Because everyone knows where he played his college ball. Its a fine line...has he made some douchey statements regarding ohio state? Sure. Every analyst makes douchey statements.
Bingo lucky nutz...Bingo for sure to you sir. You get it!
I don't have anything against Herbstreit.
But Mark May show a lot more love for Pitt and Holtz for N Dame than he does for tOSU.
1) May and Herbstreit don't have the same job. May appears on a show that's specifically designated for outlandish opinions voiced by ... special people. It would be very hard for him to move to commentary outside of that show without a complete image makeover.
2) Unfortunately I don't have any examples off the top of my head (since the season has been over for a while), but throughout this season and previous ones I noticed May say plenty of dismissive/mean/whatever things about other programs. I think fans notice it when its said about THEIR team, but don't give it a second thought otherwise.
3) In general, I've always felt that this whole "We don't get no respect!" complaint is silly. Even if you grant that Georgia or Arkansas or some other non-top-tier SEC program gets more respect than OSU, simply because of being in the SEC, ask yourself: would you WANT that kind of respect? Don't worry, if OSU has a run like Alabama is having right now, respect will come out of the woodwork everywhere, with ESPN getting in line first. Until then the team needs a chip on its shoulder, not undeserved praise.
He made up the garbage about the fans heckling him and his family as an excuse to leave. Enough said.
That may have actually been part of it. Kirk and his wife had just built a dream home. I seriously doubt that they would spend all that money if they were for sure they were moving.
I like (d) Herb- but he goes overboard in trying to be "objective". No one likes a homer - but he should be more like Clark Kellogg. He's not biased, but you can tell beneath it all he's a Buckeye
I love Herbie. I think he gets a bad rep with buckeyenation because he doesn't show ohio state in a positive light all the time. My point is you can't hate on mark may for being irrational in his overview and hate Herbie for being rational. I'm sorry but I 100% agree with what he said about N Illinois and what he's said about past Ohio State teams he calls it exactly like he sees it and doesn't try to fluff it up to make sure he's pleasing us and I respect that. He came out and had some positive things to say about us this year because we had a good team this year unlike previous years. Idk that's just my thought on it downvote me if you want cause I know this prolly won't be a popular post.
Previous "years"? Shouldn't that be previous YEAR?
2 trips to the BCS NC Game
last second loss in Fiesta Bowl
Rose Bowl win
Sugar Bowl win
yeah, the Gator Bowl year stunk
OSU was criticized by more people, for what? Being a top 5 program in America. The thing about Herbstriet, is he chose to be detailed in his thoughts on why OSU wasn't the #1 team in the country, but he never was gloomy in his critique (because he never critiqued) teams such as Florida State, Oklahoma, Miami Fla, Oregon..... all he would say is how fast these teams were and how good they were.
Don't forget, those teams also look really good in their uniforms.
Has it ever occurred to anyone that he might have tried to shine the spotlight he has on OSU's problems because he cares enough to want to see them fixed, as opposed to not caring about Florida State, Oklahoma, Miami, Oregon, etc? It doesn't take a genius to see that Florida State is perennially "back", only to nosedive half way through the season and finish unranked, that Oklahoma has plateaued in the most dangerous and unsatisfying way: always in the running for a BCS bowl, never a national title contender (something OSU was squarely headed for under Tressel, in my opinion), that Miami has been a joke since 2003 and has done nothing to change that perception, and that Oregon can't play with the REALLY big boys until it can figure out how to run their Tecmo Bowl offense against elite defenses AND gets a defense of their own. Do you really need to hear Herbstreit say these things?
Also, and I believe this sentiment has been voiced by many on this site, for all of those achievements you listed, the taste of the MNC loss to Florida won't be out of our mouths until OSU wins a championship. Nothing short of that will make us truly leave that embarrassment in the past. I think that's a good thing. See the aforementioned Oklahoma for an example of a team that's settled for being good-not-great.
I don't see things the way you are portraying them. If he took the time to point out OSU's deficiencies, and he has, can you tell me when he put OSU up with the Big Boys? Tell me when he pointed to Bob Stoops record in BCS Bowls and then said Oklahoma was lacking. When did he say Oregon's offense struggled vs good defenses.......cause all I ever hear from him is how fast and exciting they are. If he is the Prime Time announcer for ABC/ESPN's college football games, he should choose a better method to display his concern on OSU's plateau, then to down vote them for a Sugar Bowl win or say he wouldn't want his kid to play in OSU's offense. Talk up good teams..... be consistent. Talk about a team's weaknesses.....be consistent. Do you remember the last time he oggled over a player that was on the Buckeye team, the way he has over sooo many cfb players?
F him if he can't be consistent.
If he is going to critique OSU, have the balls to critique Oklahoma, Florida State, Georgia, Southern Cal.
I could give a sh!t less about Brent Mussberger's opinions and actions. Herbstriet is in the same place as Brent, to me. I really don't care.
Another case of selective memory
Ehhh. Anyway, Go Bucks!
I guess 2011 was so depressing that it felt like 3 years.
Anybody who used to listen to CM&T hates Herbstreit. Anybody who doesn't appreciate the douche move of using the "crazy fans" heckling him (which was a lie) as an excuse to leave central Ohio hates Herbstreit.
What? How do yo figure ppl don't heckle Herbie? Hell, it happens nearly every day on this site. I'm not saying that is why he moved, but don't act like it wasn't absolutely a lie.
ESPN/Satan's greatest trick was turning one of our own against us.
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
well played Kaiser Soze
~Because we couldn't go for three~
Explain how Herbie is against OSU? And please use something other than he is not your typical homer.
In his heart I believe Herby is a Buckeye and will always be so. But because his employer is ESPIN/Disney/Evil Galactic Empire (which we all know hates us with such bitter passion it reminds us of Khan's final words towards Captain Kirk) he has to watch what he says to the point of even being unfairly critical. If he even remotely looks like he's favoring his alma mater he will be out of work and we can all agree he has probably the No. 1 college football announcing job out there. It's his career. Doesnt mean I like it.
Herbie had many issues living in Columbus that had nothing to do with the fans. He wanted to leave Ohio for a long time, but his wife pulled the trigger on any move because of family. She told him could go, but she wasn't following him. A couple of things happened that made the move South the best option for them. Fans did play a small part in that decision once the kids were old enough to understand what was going on. A few ignorant fans taught their kids to hate Herbie which filtered down to the kids. Plus other issues of a personal matter played a huge role. My son went to the church Herbie went to and had some pretty good info on what was going on. 90% of the stuff he told me, came to pass. Take it FWIW
I don't see what the huge problem is with Herbstreit. Yeah, he's said a few douchey things here and there. Sometimes, what he says just doesn't come off very well. But I don't think he's anti-OSU or a bad guy. At the end of the day, I believe he loves OSU underneath all of the ESPN objective persona.
Class of 2010.
I think it's interesting that my non-Osu buddies think Kirk is a huge Ohio State homer whereas lots of Buckeye fans think he's an Ohio state hater. Probably evidence that both sides are a little too sensitive towards some of his view points
Love herbstreit one of buckeye nations most famous people
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I remember watching Herbie's TD run and I went nuts at the time. I thought that season marked the begining of the OSU program waking up from the slumber of the 8-3 years. Cooper began the push for more speed throughout the team.
I was there at that .icigan game and remember be shocked at how loud the O-H-I-O chant was. I guessed there were about 30K Bucks fans there. Driving home from the game and listening to a sport talk station out of Detroit, they described the swarm of OSU fans as ants coming from every direction and being everywhere.
I still like Herbie and glad to call him a Buckeye.
Its good to be the king
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