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Quick Bits 12/12 (One new offer)

  • Ohio State has offered '14 GA DT Elisha Shaw. Made public today but said they offered two days ago
  • Kenny Lacy will not make the trip to Michigan this weekend
  • Florida offers Lorenzo Carter
  • LSU offers Jalen Hurd
  • 2014 DB Nick Glass says Georgia was by his school to check on him and 2014 OT Orlando Brown today
  • 2014 WR Demarre Kitt spoke with Urban Meyer and Tom Herman
  • David Dawson:"Tell Buckeye Nation don't trip, they're in a good spot."
  • Michigan visits East Lake WR Artavis Scott
  • Ohio State stopped by Lassiter, GA today home of 2014 DB Chris Murphy
  • spent nearly the entire day at Cass Tech
  • David Williams has set OV dates to Penn State, South Carolina & Miami (FL). One visit yet to be scheduled. Ohio State still in the mix. Visited Arizona State in September.
  • Roy Williams is expected to watch No. 1 ranked Andrew Wiggins play tonight
  • Damon Webb & Jayru Campbell will visit Ohio State next month
  • Oregon visited Jamarco Jones today
  • Kyle Berger will visit Ohio State next month for the Michigan basketball game.

ESPN $ - 2014 WR Saeed Blacknall favors Ohio State

  • Coach Meyer was in school yesterday. Has offers from Boston College, Old Dominion, Pittsburgh & Rutgers. Says if Ohio State were to offer, they would immediately be #1 for him. Wants to visit Ohio State & North Carolina.

BN $ - Buckeyes' Withers To Visit Worley '13 OH LB/S Chris Worley

  • BK...Coach Withers due in today...Coach Ginn wanted him focused on ACT before visits...Coach Overton doesn't know if he'll take any visits besides OSU. 

Scout $ - No Days Off for Five-Star OT '14 KS OL Braden Smith

  • Coaches from Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas A&M, Michigan, and others have been by his school...recently got 77 handwritten letters from Alabama followed by 78 from TAMU. 

Rivals $ - Buckeyes offer four-star DE '14 GA DE Lorenzo Carter

  • Says OSU offered a few weeks ago...says he will look into OSU knowing his teammate Myles Autry has them high on his list...not focused on recruiting yet.

BN $ - Wisconsin Commit Calls Ohio State

  • OSU offered 2013 OL Hayden Biegel but he says he is solid to Wisconsin. OSU also contacted 2014 OL Jaden Gault. Now 2014 DE Conor Sheehy has contacted Coach Vrabel. Michigan has also offered Sheehy and he has heard from MSU and Nebraska.

Scout $ - Shrine Bowl Notebook '13 NC DE Tyquan Lewis

  • Had to make the best decision for himself which was OSU and is coming in as a Viper.

Rivals $ - Shrine Bowl: Monday recruiting notebook '13 NC DE Tyquan Lewis

  • Greg Gilmore is working on Lewis lmao good luck...meanwhile Lewis is working on Vonn Bell and Trey Johnson.

Rivals $ - Rivals100 WR tentatively scheduled to visit NU '13 OH WR Shelton Gibson

  • Kentucky and Nebraska were at his school...may visit Nebraska after OSU...focused on Nebraska, OSU, WVU, NC State, Kentucky and Louisville. .

Scout $ - Quick sets U of L visit; will decide Jan. 5 '13 KY WR James Quick

  • Louisville has a slight lead but OSU is right there as well...will also visit Kentucky, Tennessee and Oregon.

Rivals$--Change of plans for Johnson? '13 GA LB Trey Johnson

  • Coach Fickell visited today and Trey has postponed his Florida visit to concentrate on exams. He will announce when he is comfortable but it will be before NLOID. 

Trinity DE Jason Hatcher to visit UK and Neal Brown making big pitch for Quick and Timmons

Anyone who knows Neal Brown knows that Brown did not lack for confidence as a high school or college player and has kept that same trait during his successful college coaching career.

That’s why it’s no surprise that he has gone right to work trying to convince the state’s best players — who had little interest in UK during the season — to give the Cats a closer look now that Mark Stoops is the head coach and he’s the offensive coordinator.

Apparently four-star defensive end Jason Hatcher of Trinity, one of the state’s top five players and a Southern Cal commit, is listening to Stoops, Brown and new defensive coordinator D.J. Eliot because now plans to visit UK. No guarantee of anything more, but it is a start.

Brown also watched Trinity receiver James Quick, another four-star player the the winner of the Paul Hornung Award as the state’s top player, play basketball Tuesday night and has let him know he could star in UK’s new offense.

Receiver Ryan Timmons of Franklin County, a three-star recruit and scoring machine last season, has heard from Brown, too, and likely will visit UK Saturday. He is also considering Arkansas, Ohio State and Illinois.

Timmons could be a natural in Brown’s offense because Franklin County ran a similar offense and Timmons scored 42 touchdowns rushing and receiving. Franklin County coach Chris Tracy attended a coaching clinic at Centre College two years ago when Brown, then the Texas Tech offensive coordinator, went through his offense and the last two years the Flyers have had one of the state’s top scoring offenses.

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Trinity football star James Quick plans weekend visit with Louisville football

Trinity High School wide receiver James Quick, the state’s most coveted college football prospect, said Tuesday night after the Shamrocks’ basketball game that he’ll make an official visit to the University of Louisville this weekend.

He also reaffirmed that the Cardinals are “slightly number one” in a recruitment that he said he plans to end with a televised announcement during the Jan. 5 U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio.

He has already visited Ohio State — just behind the Cards — and said he’ll see Oregon, the University of Kentucky and Tennessee before making his decision.

New UK offensive coordinator Neal Brown and defensive coordinator D.J. Eliot and Ohio State offensive coordinator Tom Herman and wide receivers coach Zach Smith attended Trinity’s basketball victory over Seneca.

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While Ohio State is trying to boost its linebacker depth chart in the recruiting class of 2013, an even brighter future might sit just one year away.

To finish their 2013 class, the Buckeyes are after Mike Mitchell (Plano, Texas/Prestonwood Christian), Trey Johnson (Lawrenceville, Ga./Central Gwinnett) with the possibility of signing Tommy Sanders (Cordele, Ga./Butler Community College) or flipping James Hearns (Tallahassee, Fla./Lincoln).

But the dream Ohio State fans are hoping for in the class of 2014 isn’t that much of a stretch as Raekwon McMillan (Hinesville, Ga./Liberty County), Clifton Garrett (Plainfield, Ill./Plainfield South) and Dante Booker (Akron, Ohio/St. Vincent-St. Mary) are very much still plausible options as a package deal.

Drew Barker is a becoming popular person.

The junior quarterback from Hebron (Ky.) Connor has seen recent interest from Ohio State and Kentucky. Buckeye coaches were at his school on Tuesday. Kentucky football coaches were at his school to see the 6-foot-4, 205-pound prospect play basketball on Tuesday evening, Barker told ESPN.

Tennessee coaches were scheduled to be at Barker's school on Wednesday. It wouldn't be surprised if the Vols offered Barker a scholarship during the visit. While at Cincinnati, Tennessee head coach Butch Jones offered Barker a scholarship to play for the Bearcats. Jones was hired by Tennessee last week.

Barker already has a handful of scholarship offers, most notably from Illinois, Indiana, Louisville, Purdue and South Carolina. Several other schools have shown strong interest in the ESPN Watch List prospect.

Ryan Timmons' finalists are coming out in droves before the pending dead period later this month.

The ESPN 300 athlete from Frankfort (Ky.) Franklin County said he has talked to coaches from Arkansas, Kentucky and Ohio State. Buckeye coaches were in town to visit him on Tuesday. Coaches from Kentucky and Illinois were scheduled to see him on Thursday.

The Illini are looking to break into Timmons' list of finalists. As difficult as that could be, at least he still has an official visit he can take if necessary.

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Dublin68 on 12 Dec 2012 - 3:52pm #

Thank you Gene for the daily updates

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GeneStarwind Mod on 12 Dec 2012 - 3:57pm #

As always! Thank you for reading :)

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Danify on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:00pm #

As I told you on twitter. Fantastic work in providing us information on the recruiting front!

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GeneStarwind Mod on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:01pm #

Haha, thanks again

 

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EvanstonBuckeye on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:24pm #

Have to say that this one of the most interesting, action-packed Quick Bits...ever? Between Dawson's tweet (and here I was just on the verge of tripping), Worley's ACT scores (no tripping, that could be telling), Wisky recruits calling us, and the news on Quick, awesome, awesome stuff.

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ATXbucknut on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:26pm #

Brimming with good info. Thanks.

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jackson on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:34pm #

Use to live in Columbus back in 1980,California now ,the elevenwarrior team best staff,great updates ,where does Dontre Wilson fit in?

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lljjgg on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:39pm #

"He has already visited Ohio State — just behind the Cards — and said he’ll see Oregon, the University of Kentucky and Tennessee before making his decision."

^4 additional visits with only 3 weekends left (this one devoted to Louisville) before January 5th? Have to wonder whether all of those visits will actually happen. The positive there, I suppose, is that he doesn't sound locked into a decision yet. Maybe one of those visits can knock all of the teams even.

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tennbuckeye19 on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:44pm #

Yeah that's a little strange from Quick. There's no way he can visit Oregon, Tennessee, and Kentucky all before January 5th. There is a recruiting dead period that starts this Monday, the 17th and goes till January 3rd. During that time he can't make visits or have coaches visit him.

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lljjgg on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:46pm #

Great point, I hadn't even thought about that. If that is the case, wonder if he'll decide after the Louisville visit to cancel future visits, or if he's even thinking of pushing back his decision until closer to NSD?

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niblick on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:40pm #

best part of my day!!

 

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Alex on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:42pm #

Kyle will likely be down in San Antonio for the US Army Bowl so we should have full coverage of Quick's announcement

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GeneStarwind Mod on 12 Dec 2012 - 5:09pm #

Awesome!

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One Bad Buckeye on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:50pm #

"Don't trip..." Oh, I thought he meant like actually falling down. Haha! 

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bleedscarletpis... on 12 Dec 2012 - 4:52pm #

Is Saeed Blacknall an Ohio kid?

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One Bad Buckeye on 13 Dec 2012 - 3:44am #

Who cares? With a name like "Saeed" opposing defenses probably help him catch the ball and escort him into the endzone.  Sign him up!  Haha!

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bukyze on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:48pm #

Best show ever (non-comedy).  The Wire a close second.

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GeneStarwind Mod on 12 Dec 2012 - 7:57pm #

David Williams situation got me all confused. Hearing Jan 11th or 25th will be his OV but he has already slated them dates. 11th for Penn State & 25th for Miami (FL). Needs to be scooped here.

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SilverBulletNYC on 12 Dec 2012 - 9:10pm #

I love the tape of Tommy Sanders. I think he could play right away.

The South will NOT rise again!

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Adamant73 on 12 Dec 2012 - 9:28pm #

I was under the impression that Dawson was going to re-commit with UM. Does anyone buy into his comment? Would be a nice X-mas present along with Mitchell/Johnson/Quick.

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buckeye76BHop on 13 Dec 2012 - 11:26am #

Starting to think Timmons may be in if Quick picks Louisville.  It could happen Waykraken...and I'm not kidding either man (the world wide leader of BS lists an offer...interesting that no one else does).  I'm really thinking Strong stays for a while which will be the deciding factor.

Or Corn Elder as some have indicated below....once he visits on 1/11 should be telling as far as his commitment or not.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

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bassplayer7770 on 13 Dec 2012 - 11:51am #

Or Corn Elder as some have indicated below....once he visits on 1/11 should be telling as far as his commitment or not.

I'd almost say the same about Timmons.  His Mom will be with him on the visit, so it will be interesting to see if he gets that coveted offer.

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buckeye76BHop on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:02pm #

Seems like many spots are becoming coveted....the LBs (sanders and johnson situations are becoming interesting too), last DB spot and Ath/WR positions.  Not to mention an OL spot.  Going to be interesting indeed Bass...

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
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Optimistic Buck... on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:25pm #

I'm starting to wonder what the overall list of propects looks like.  You think we can get a consensus one going?  I'll start with what I think:

1. Bell (S1)

2. Mitchell (LB1)

3. Dawson (OL1)

4. Johnson (LB2)

5. Quick (WR1)

6. Gibson (WR2)

7. Elder (WR3)

8. Timmons (WR4)

9. Lacy (OL2)

10. Worley (S3/LB4)

11. Sanders (LB3)

 I only included guys with offers and those I think we have a shot with and those that are yet to be flipped (this is why I didn't put up Hearns or Redfield).  As far as the class panning out, I think the ideal mix would be 2LBs, 1 S, 1 OL, 2WRs.  

 

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Ann Arbor Buckeye on 12 Dec 2012 - 11:49pm #

David Dawson:"Tell Buckeye Nation don't trip, they're in a good spot." Totally made my day.  It sounds like we are still in it.

Yes there are two Buckeyes in Ann arbor on this site!

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hail2victors9 on 13 Dec 2012 - 9:09am #

If Dawson hasn't re-committed to Michigan by Sunday evening, I'd say you're in a  good spot.  Honestly, I don't know why he and the coaches would have a heart to heart and allow him back in if he didn't plan on returning.  Of course, you just never can tell with some of these recruits.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler

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DonkeyPunchAnnArbor on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:57pm #

Hail,

 

What is the UM fan perspective on the Hoke policy now that this has played out with Dawson and Conley?  Just curious to know if there is a reason Dawson is being welcomed back or has Hoke's policy been tossed out the window at this point?

 

 

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GeneStarwind Mod on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:09am #

Ohio State has offered Elisha Shaw

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Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:13am #

If Quick goes to L'ville I believe Timmons is offered and commits on the spot. 

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GeneStarwind Mod on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:34am #

Kenny Lacy not visiting Michigan this weekend

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weimerad on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:45am #

If Quick goes to Louisville I think they will accept a commitment from Elder before Timmons.  He's more in the driver's seat.

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Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 13 Dec 2012 - 9:11am #

Timmons>>>Elder

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DMcDougal24 on 13 Dec 2012 - 11:09am #

Timmons<<<Elder.

I don't understand why people are so high on Timmons around here.. Is it because of the number of threads created about him? The number of highlights we've seen? Is it because he wears Buckeye gear? The fact is that Elder has an offer to OSU and Timmons does not. Here are their offer lists according to 247:

Elder: Ohio State, UCLA, Georgia Tech, Ole Miss, Alabama, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Cincinnati, Iowa, Nebraska, Tennessee, North Carolina, and Mississippi State.

Timmons: Arkansas, Illinois, Kentucky, Purdue, West Virginia, Toledo, Western Kentucky, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Louisiana Tech.

The obvious outliers: Alabama for Elder and West Virginia for Timmons - probably both offers are not commitable. But the fact remains that the better schools have offered Elder. That's not to say that Timmons is a bad player, but he's just not on the same level as Elder according to all of these coaches.

If you haven't watched a highlight of Elder yet, I implore you to watch this video.

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Becool12 on 13 Dec 2012 - 11:30am #

That is a nonsense way of looking at it. Teams offer because of potential and the way they see a recruit fitting into their system. That is like saying, since we Manziel didn't have a Bama offer or a Texas offer, David Ash is better then him. Or how about the fact that we offered Tracy Sprinkle and not Robert Nkemdiche, Sprinkle is better. Coaches offer for a number of reasons like geographical regions, a future all american may be attending the same school the next year so coaches ar trying to build relationships, etc. People are higher on Timmons because of the stats he puts up, his proven speed, the fact that he has put other teams on hold for us, he is a big tim OSU fan, he came to several games and camps on his own dime, he has a high GPA, he has the ability to torch defenses, etc. 

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DMcDougal24 on 13 Dec 2012 - 11:46am #

You call it nonsensical, I call it the only way we can really evaluate two similar prospects from neighboring states. Timmons may very well go to a school and put up better numbers than Elder, but it's always easier to make a tough decision using hindsight. Would Texas rather have Manziel than Ash knowing what they know now? Probably. 

My point in throwing out the offer list was to show that Timmons is receiving offers from low-level B1G schools and MAC programs. Elder is receiving offers from high-level B1G programs and numerous SEC schools. There's a reason coaches are preferring Elder, and it isn't geographical differences (they're in neighboring states for goodness sake).

 

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Becool12 on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:35pm #

Rephrase, the non-sense statement makes me sound douchy. Comparing offers do not necessarily offer the best analysis. Yes, Timmons do have lower level offers, that may be because those are the only schools willing to offer him based off his film alone. Timmons is from the middle of nowhere Kentucky and put up prolific numbers. Before the media age, that would be enough to make someone a parade all american. Today, camping is more important than what you actually do in the games. Elder may have camped at Bama or had a tournament in a place where Bama coaches were scouting. Timmons doesn't  camp and his level of competition is horrible. Elder camps and his level of competition is horrible. Timmons seems like the bigger risk.

And in hindsight it is easier to look back and wonder why certain players were never recruited as much as they should have been. Manziel, like Timmons, was from a small school in the middle of nowhere. Manziel camped at Oregon and that's how he got the Oregon offer. That may be the only reason why he got that offer.  Timmons camped here but I don't think he did any of the big Nike camps, thus he lacked exposure. If not for people like Waykracken, most of us still wouldn't know who Timmons is. I'm not saying Timmons is a future heisman winner, but offers go out for multiple reasons and not just because of talent

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steensn on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:18pm #

Just because there are EXCEPTIONS to the rule doesn't break the rule. Players are evaluated lower many times, that is true, but right here, right now all signs point to the experts things Elder hast he most potential. It is fair to use that as a basis to say that Elder is the better player. Some guys simply don't project well their senior years it happens, kids mature/change quickly (yes these are still kids). So you have to go off what you know now and at this point Elder seems to clearly have the lead in evaluations by the people who live and breath this stuff. To disagree with them seems more silly, but everyone has their own opinion.

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Becool12 on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:43pm #

Well, these experts usually get rankings wrong. Every year, rivals go back and view their rankings from prior years, and every year they prove that their evaluations were wrong. The biggest impacts are usually made by 3 star recruits, who were under recruited. All the signs are saying Elder received the most attention.

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Optimistic Buck... on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:44pm #

I don't believe coaches use rankings to recruit.  I think it's more exposure based.

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steensn on 13 Dec 2012 - 2:17pm #

It's not just the ranking sites, it is the coached wiling to make the kid an offer which shows their evaluation of him.

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Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 13 Dec 2012 - 12:56pm #

Well... I live in the same town as Elder... I've seen his size... I know his competition... And I've talked to a guy that knows Elder and his family and says BASKETBALL IS HIS #1 PASSION! 

That's how I've based my decision!

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Becool12 on 13 Dec 2012 - 1:01pm #

I've read that somewhere. I remember the same thing was happening with Terrelle Pryor when he was being recruited. I think Elder will realize sooner or later that football is the way to go. 

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DMcDougal24 on 13 Dec 2012 - 3:53pm #

I think it was in one of Alex's recent articles and in some recent articles over at BuckNuts that basketball will not get in the way of Elder's decision. He knows football is his future and will decide accordingly. 

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GeneStarwind Mod on 13 Dec 2012 - 1:15am #

Added a Johnny Townsend interview and an ESPN video on OSU recruiting

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GeneStarwind Mod on 13 Dec 2012 - 2:09am #

Post is final, hopefully we hear something on Sanders tomorrow

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kareemabduljacobb on 13 Dec 2012 - 3:18am #

Hopefully Vonn Bell commits to the bucks, but I just have a bad feeling he may end up @ Bama but hopefully I'm wrong.

His stats this year are pretty impressive..

Vonn Bell stats(14 games) - 146 tackles, 3 INTs, 1,039 yds rushing, 627 yds receiving & 21 TDs.

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