According to Josh Hemboldt tweet, after talking to James Quick this afternoon, OSU now has a slight lead over Lville. He will be announcing on Saturday. Bill Greene, who is at the UA festivities, after talking to coaches and others there , says OSU in the drivers seat to land Vonn Bell. Take all this in with caution. We can only HOPE!!!! Go Bucks
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Funny that Hemboldt said OSU has a slight lead for Quick, which I'm thrilled, but his counterpart JC Shutburtt says Louisville is the favorite and that its not even close
i work with a couple of diehard louisville fans, they are saying quick to louisville is a done deal. so who really knows huh?
Helmholdt is there, Shurburtt is not.
^^^^this Helmholdt actually talked to the kid today Schurburtt is going off of what others have had in "past" interviews with James. Also, find it interesting that James gets far way from the Ville and now says we lead and also tweeted the other day that when he gets back is going silent for a bit.
Mike Farrell thinks Quick is playing games and will end up at UL
Dang, really? I thought for sure Bell would not end up in C-bus. I will believe it when I hear Bell say it himself. Would be a HUGE get.
247's Steve Wiltfong now saying on the OSU premium board that Quick is 50/50 between UL and OSU. I can't think this momentum would turn back to UL's side, looks positive. Also 247 tends to remain cautious about reporting things like this, they aren't known for sensational rumors.
Agreed considering no Louisville commits are at the game or any all-star game for that matter IIRC. Just wish Barrett was there bc he and James did hit it off during their visit.
This is from jbrook over at 247. He's a pretty credible poster and is very in the know:
"Mike Farrell @rivalsmike
James Quick could be playing around...($) http://ow.ly/grifE"
We'll know on Saturday, until then it seems impossible to guess. Remember Stefon Digg's tweet the day before he committed to Maryland? Something to the effect of "I had a great dream last night, I was in Gainesville" haha. Some of these guys love to play up the suspense.
Just listened to it... When he talks about Louisville it sounds like lip service to me, just not really sold into going there. Could be a shocker, but I really didn't buy his feelings for Lville there at all.
Of the two, I want Bell more than Quick... both would be awesome but IMO I think Bell is a better shot for the buckeyes than Quick.
I agree. Plus, safety is more of a pressing need at this time.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
I havent always been sold on Quick but the one thing I always thought highly of him was his resistance to playing the Diva game. I would think if he is going back and forth it is happening honestly. I would be surprised if he chose tOSU but after reading some of this I now think maybe.
From everything I have read collectively Quick wants to play for OSU, however the pull from the fans in the state of Kentucky has him torn. There was a report on Bucknuts stating Kentucky doiesnt have guys like this come along often, other states will have a better player every year or so and that is where the conflict lies.
Those would be a lot of big names to haul in on national tv! I love it!!
If we get Mitchell, Johnson, and Quick at the All-Star games I will probably freak out. I will just wait and see.
There's a small chance that staff contingency in attendance may clear Gibson to commit at the army game as well. Odds aren't great, but talk about exposure.
It would be awesome if the staff gave Gibson the green light and he committed at the game too. Mitchell, Johnson, Gibson, and possibly Quick all on national TV... Would be ridiculous!
Your right the exposure would be second to none.
Quick is playing people. He is all Louisville Cardinal and any thought to the contrary is just wishful thinking.
Bell is a little more interesting, but there is a long way to go there.
Got a source? The OP does... You don't even give a reason for your statements. At least everyone else seems to be basing their "wishful thinking" on something they actually read or heard.
Basis? Ummm...
Both parents went to Louisville. It's the hometown team. He's visited there more than anywhere else BY FAR. L'Ville has led the whole time. Strong stayed and his uncertain status was probably the only thing keeping OSU in it. Their offense is more passer friendly and they have Teddy Bridgewater.
The recent statements are pretty much the standard nowadays for recruits to garner more attention to their announcement.
Keep wishing though. It's a foregone conclusion that Quick is all Louisville.
Ive read his mom did not go to UL the kid doesnt play the recruiting game, has no reason to even say tOSU now has the lead, but yet did on camera for all to see. Find it interesting for you to suggest hes waiting until now to play the recruiting game when he hasnt been a diva this entire time.
You make a very fair point, Spooner. Only thing that makes me wonder was Mike Farrell at Rivals (the guy who conducted the interview himself) saying that he thought Quick might be fooling around when he said OSU. I haven't seen Mike's post on Rivals about it though, so who knows. But you have to wonder what made Mike think he might be trolling/misleading people?
It hasnt been in his character to look for attention but I do tend to agree with you that Charlie Strong wants to win this battle with Coach Meyer. What better way than to set up the drama and do it on a national stage. If Quick indicated in the slightest Louisville leads there wouldnt be much drama.
I believe he is Louisville and playing a role for Strong right now.
That entire post was a giant contradiction. Isnt looking for the attention hasnt been this entire time but decides to now to do it when previous to this hes said UL has a slight lead. As for no drama what have you been looking at these past few months theres been alot of drama on account of both fanbases in this recruitment and you dont think people havent brought this up to him?!
I dont know what to believe because like you said he hasnt played any games in the past. Confused? Maybe. No matter what he decides on the 5th. Hes got Flip written all over him.
I don't think it's so crucial for Strong because he's competing against Meyer, it's crucial for Strong because he's a blue chip recruit who is from Louisville and is considering the school. I know we don't have the greatest WR's, but honestly he's far more crucial for Louisville. If he doesn't come to Ohio State, the offense will still be great, it'd be far more detrimental for Louisville to miss out on the guy, he would make a far bigger impact to that program than Ohio State where, let's face it, another guy will fill that role and give good production still.
We dont have any true outside WR committed and Smith/Spencer will be Jrs. next year so its safe to say that Quick is important for the future esp since we run alot to the outside where bigger WR are used as blockers over slot types. Playing WR in Urbans offense is about much more than receiving statistics.
OK - reasons. Thank you. You didn't provide any before.
However, we all know these things already. People above are providing NEW and recent tidbits citing recruting sites, analysts, and credible sources that OSU might have a slight lead. And OSU did have a slight lead after his visit - he almost committed on the spot.
I guess my original problem was you gave such definitive and bold statement with no reasons...and now your reasons, while totally valid, aren't new. But this post, and some of the contributions to it ARE new. And they MIGHT prove to be correct. You don't KNOW Quick's decision.
Also, no need to tell me to keep wishing. I'm 100% fine if Quick doens't choose OSU. I am a Gibson and Timmons fan - they're playmakers as well - and they seem to be "foregone conclusions."
Wow...What a way to start the New Year's!
Go Urbz Go!!!!!
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^I still don't fully understand why Redfield doesn't have an OSU visit scheduled as well? Even if he's sold on ND (which some claim), or OSU thinks they have Bell, why not bring in another 5* safety for a visit if he's willing to (and he does seem willing to)?
You answered your own question right after the ND part.
So with all this good news we are looking at finishing with
Trey Johnson
Mike Mitchell
James Quick
Vonn Bell
Chris Worley (heard he got the score he needed on the ACT and that's what the question was)
My question is who else do we take between Shelton Gibson (if he qualifies), Corn Elder, Ryan Timmons or any of the OL we are in on? Do we take any of them?
I'm reading we are possibly going to finish with:
Mitchell
Johnson
Bell
Quick
Gibson
Looks like Worley could be the one left out. Do we take him anyway to keep the Glenville Pipeline flowing?
Pipeline is just fine with Jones (committed), Lattimore (Buckeye), and Erick Smith (possible S offer) next year.
Redfield doesn't even hold an offer. Just shows what our staff thinks about Bell if they won't even offer Redfield IYAM. Doesn't mean they'll get him, I just think the staff feels good here.
The Quick info sounds too good to be true. I still believe he's all Louisville. I'd say 60/40 in favor of the 'Ville. No info, just a personal opinion of info I've gathered. I don't really buy all the "Ohio St. now leads" hype. Recruits play the game ALL THE TIME at this time of year. Just because he doesn't seem like the type to gather attention doesn't mean he can't still have fun with reporters.
IMHO, we get, and don't get the following:
1) Mike Mitchell = Buckeye
2) Trey Johnson = Buckeye
3) Shelton Gibson = Buckeye (if he qualifies. FUMA if he doesn't).
4) Cornelius Elder = Buckeye
5) Christopher Worley = Buckeye
6) James Quick = Louisville
7) Von Bell = Alabama
1. Mitchell
2. Johnson
3. Quick
4. Gibson
5. Bell..
What the heck, finish the year thinking positively..
Bell is a buckeye.
Coach Withers (I'm guessing) doesn't know how to use twitter. He just tweeted Vonn Bell with no message.
hopefully that just means hes confident we have vonn bell
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Just a question to throw out there:
In light of the speculation that's arisen since Robert Foster chose Bama, that he may eventually choose hometown Pitt before or on signing day, does anyone see the same scenario playing out with Quick should he choose the Buckeyes? The situations are similar, though not identical. Seems like the pressure that he's currently feeling, apparently, could escalate or turn negative if he chooses tOSU hat.
I can imagine some of the arguments myself, but was curious as to what others would think.
I think the negative comments from those around him, wanting him to stay, would be a key reason why he waited to choose a school until late in the process. Just one man's opinion...
I don't think so. The Foster situation seems a bit different tha Quicks.
nevadabuck over at Scout has a thread titled "the word from inside James Quick's camp".
I cna only afford one subscription and thats to 247. If anybody who subscribes to scout and can summarize what nevada says in that thread, it would be greatly appreciated.
scout is the only subscription that I don't currently have, because i hate it, but I'm still interested to hear this info.
inside source says he wouldnt bet against tOSU on this one
+1. Glad to hear it!
247 (Wiltfong) has a new article saying Quick said today OSU became his leader a few weeks ago.
http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Board/120/James-Quick-Update-from-Army-Bo...
thats a GOOD read. just needs to talk to his parents one more time
happy new year all
Wiltfong over at 247 said a few moments ago after talking with Quick it will be tOSU. Quick also said tOSU took the lead a few weeks ago, he has been bonding with our commits down there, and absolutely raved about Urban. James also said all of this after talking with his parents who have been allegedly do O-H-I-O photos and wearing Buckeye gear. I said awhile ago how it amazed me that ppl were counting out Urban and now you know why :) Hopefully more people will have the Tressel all star jinx out of their systems for the next recruiting cycle bc the new sherriff lives for this part of the recruiting season!
Edit: Dammit DMC you beat me to it good job buddy!
Excellent!
"If you Urban it, they will Columbus." -Field of The Shoe
Lol no harm done.
This is Huge! Must be the reason Louisville seems to be suddenly scrambling for WRs. First hint that I ignored was when Quick was quoted as saying something along the lines during his official visit their coaches telling him "were not going to press you you have to do whats best for you". That wasnt exactly what was said but something along those lines. In hind site that is something being told to a kid to try and not be over agressive but instead a little bit of a psychological way of dealing with a negative and trying to come off as a good guy.
Would be great to have Quick/Timmons as the 2 WRs. I like Gibson as well but understand he must have grade issues. Its a shame for Gibson if that is true.
Waycraken (or anyone else from Kentucky/in the know), do you think there's possibly any truth to some of the suggestions people have made that perhaps Quick wanted to wait until perhaps the last possible moment (signing day would be last possible moment, but this is pretty close) to choose OSU because of the backlash he might see from picking against the hometown team? i.e. he wanted to show that he was giving UL a serious shot, and so may have talked UL up for over a month now despite wanting to choose OSU for quite a while? After his visit to OSU you almost got the feeling from the initial interviews that he was sold on OSU at the time.
I'm not Waycraken, but I think that idea has a lot of merit.
If this is all on the straight I will be one of the people in Kentucky that will be completely wrong. I am still cautious but it does sound legit.
Worley is in this class, the quicker everyone accepts that the easier it will be to deal with signing a "three star" during this new period of star greed from the fans.
Nobody cares how many stars he has. Most of us are wondering if we will have room if we land Mitchell, Johnson, Gibson, Quick, and Bell.
Worley is in this class. It can't be spelt out any clearer for you. He. Is. In. This. Class.
Well, I mean.... Why isn't he committed then? And I actually agree with you that he will be in, just unsure why you are so positive when he is not committed
Remember when he was going to committ per his Twitter, talked to Ginn and backed off? Glenville has a long history of this.
Worley also had to do some fine tuning with his academics, recently posted on twitter he passed his ACT with a 20. Also dont feel they will let him slip away as he has potential to grow into a LB.
There's a Vonn Bell, aka V.Smooth, video interview on youtube some where from around 9 months ago. When asked specifically about Alabama, tOSU, Texas and a few other traditional powerhouses, he said he loved how close Urban was with his players and how OSU felt the most like a family. Also, when asked about his favorite campus of the 10 or so he had seen, he immediately said Ohio State. Hopefully these bode well for us!
That video was taken after he camped at OSU and before his 15 visits to Bama this season.
http://gifsoup.com/view/1015521/evil-eye.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqXxb9lMBf0
"a lil ed reeeeeeeeeet"
they call me v smooooooth
BTW: Quick said in two seperate interviews yesterday OSU had a lead and that he wsa 80% sure where he wanted to go w/ Rivals (Farrel and Hembolt). He's either gaming or is done.
My random thought is that maybe all of the people all over the internet that have been saying they are close to Trinity and posting that Quick was all Buckeye post visit but he wouldn't come out and say it due to knowing Kentucky would turn on him and he wouldn't win Mr. Football may not have been trolling and may have really had sources.
Most people making the Mr Football comment were referencing UK and UL. Stigma that most UL recruits do not win Mr Football.
No they were not, I'm not making up what I have read many places and it had absolutely nothing to do with UK and UL Mr. Timmons.
Happy New Years to you too. Didnt mean to ruffle your feathers. I have lived here over 20 years. Mr Football is much easier to get as a UK person than a UL person. And for your info there would be many UK people that would rather see Quick with tOSU than UL. You can try and be nasty in your response and I do care but unfortunately expect another attempted insult or jab.
Thank you Mr. Timmons. However, your insight into the inner-workings of the state of Kentucky and how they vote for Mr. Football has nothing to do with what was reported by people close to the Trinity Program stating how JAMES QUICK felt about what he needed to do to win the award.
Which, of course, could be total BS. But it has been said a lot and by a lot of people close to the program.
I'm missing something here with Quick, right? We already have Gibson and Marshall in the bag why do we need this guy? Not to mention Elliot will probably play wideout at the next level as well. How many weapons can you have?
Outside of Smith this team only has one true Outside WR and that is Michael Thomas. Bringing in two this year (Quick and Gibson) would be huge.
How many times this season did Meyer bitch about the WR depth during pressers? 20?
In this offense you don't need 3 top wr's, hell in any offense you don't need three top wr's. Thomas imo is better then Quick. I'm just not that impressed with Quick and think he should be begging us to get a spot. Bottom line is Marshall, Gibson and Elliot all should touch the ball more then a James Quick. Just my view take it for what its worth.
Elliot will not be a every down back with R. Smith and Dunn in front of him, and with the prospect of J Hurd in 14'.
I don't think you know what every down back means...it means he is a complete RB, one that doesn't need to come out in passing situations. Elliot is not a WR, he will be a RB all the way for OSU. And who is to say that he doesn't come in and beat out Dunn/Smith? That's why players compete. Same can be said about Hurd...he could be a huge stud, or he could be a bust as well.
I know what every down back means you lil shit. Dunn and R Smith are much closer to it then Elliot. Who is going to be in on short yardage Smith/Dunn/Hyde or Elliot? nuff said.
Wow dude, settle down and don't be a dick. You have no idea how things are gonna pan out in the future, so any hypothetical you draw up is just gonna be speculation.
I see the dick, but I don't see the joke
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And by closer you mean a freshman who is in Meyer's doghouse and another player who bathes his hands in crisco. And Hyde is a SR, Elliott will have 3 more years after he leaves, assuming he does not redshirt.
I suggest you put the syringe full of juice down and chill out.
JUICE is my Friend MY ONLY Friend RAAAAAGGGGEEEE!!!!
We don't have 3 top WRs. We don't have any yet in this class. We have a WR/ATH in Jacobs who is unproven, an ATH in Marshall, who doesn't have natural hands or route running ability at this point, thus, also unproven, and Gibson's grades haven't cleared yet. Arguably, we have no offensive players on the roster at this time that are as explosive off the line as Quick is. He's not as big as Mike Thomas, but he's a hell of a lot faster at the same role on the field. Don't get slot athletes confused with true WRs.
Doesn't have natural hands? what the fuck is he a cyborg?
One of the big criticisms on him right now is that he doesn't have a WR's hands. He often fights the ball on receptions, it was brought up again today actually, at UA drills
He fights the ball on receptions? You have to remember who is giving you this information....some fat fuck white guy that looks like he should be selling you vonage or yellow page ads. Probably never has caught a football in any type of football game let alone is qualified in the least bit to tell you how to catch a ball.
Now if Jerry Rice or even Cris Carter tells me this guys has no hands then I might be concerned but bottom line a catch is a catch.
LaVarr Arrington was instructing him on his technique issues in that category, I'd say he knows a bit more than you or I.
LAVARR FUCKING ARRINGTON the linebacker I can catch better then that guy he's a fucking linebacker.
Jesus Christ watch some video on these guys. Are you serious? Gibson, Marshall and Jacobs are all way more dangerous with the ball then Quick.
1) Gibson is not even a committ yet. 2) Marshall and Jacobs, and yes Quick are ALL unproven...thus why you do NOT pass on playmakers when you have NONE on the current roster. But keep up the personal attacks.
I have heard that Thomas is great and read about the Spring game, but not quite sure that I saw a great player this year in #83
Thomas, Smith, Fields and Spencer in the fold I just don't see how you can justify bringing in 3 wr's this year.
One word - COMPETITION
We need Lb's bro. Not fucking wide receivers on a team that can't pass the ball for shit. Happy new year.
~Because we couldn't go for three~
And we don't need playermakers either...bro? Perhaps the reason we can't "pass the ball for shit" is that our WR's can't create separation and get open for our QB to get them the ball(not saying Miller is a great passer, but his weapons are lacking). In this offense you can NEVER have enough playmakers and right now we don't have any(maybe Philly). As others have stated, Marshall and Jacobs are unproven and Gibson my not even qualify. You don't pass on a player like Quick.
And who said anything about not taking LB's? It appears we are in the drivers seat for both Johnson and Mitchell.
We have a guy that avg. over 20 yards a catch this year. But I guess to be a "playmaker" in your eyes you have to be James Quick.
I don't think you should worry about justifying it, as the staff is doing what they need to in a system that they have expertise with.
Meyer has said, verbatim, that a championship caliber team needs 10 good WRs.
Case closed.
Elastik pulls a direct UFM philosophy and gets downvoted? Some people seem to be unnecessarily pissy tonight...
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
IMO Quick is a more traditional WR (which we don't have in this class), Marshall will play the slot. Gibson isn't a sure thing because of his grades.
EDIT: Elastik beat me to it.
Elliot is NOT a WR, he projects as an every down back in college.
Elliot is currently a rb, but is a guy who many see being a great slot receiver at 6'0. Some insider info on 247 at the Army bowl has him dominating safties on 1 on 1 drills from the slot.
Johnson is the most important player left out there.
There is not much left in terms of Johnson, after he cancelled his UF visit, they filled up at LB and he decided to announce it was over.
So you are saying he is a lock?
Yes, there will be three LBs in this class with Worley, Mitchell and Johnson and a Viper/Leo/WTF ever it is going to be called this year with Lewis.
Bc Quick is a true outside WR and the 2 we have currently that have played (Devin,Spencer) will be Jrs. next year. The outside WR in Urbans offense is about much more than receiving statistics. We run alot to the boundaries in this offense bigger outside WR are used to hold the edge. With all due respect to the above players execption being Quick and perhaps Gibson bc ive seen him do it I havent seen one clip of any one of them run blocking esp Timmons. With Timmons you can put up video game stats all you want in HS but if you cant block you wont see the field as a WR for Urban. Its not a knock on the kid hes obviously very talented im just not sure if wed be running to his side by his sophomore year which is the second biggest thing this staff projects with kids. If they dont think you can play by then you aint getting that offer. Hope that answers your question.
Damn, all the drama on the site lately kinda sucks. Hopefully these all star games bring goodwill (commits) for buckeye land
can see Quick doing one of those announcements where OSU is hyped to get him, pulls out the OSU hat, puts it on, then throws it away and puts on the UL hat...just seems like a sketchy thing with all of this pub about OSU being his leader for a little while considering all the hype about him being a hard lean to UL recently before these reports came out over the past few days...
I don't see it.
Quick has done absolutely nothing to make me think that he's one of "those" types of kids. He doesn't seem to relish the spotlight like some of the others.
He always maintained that UL had a slight lead, not that he was a hard lean.
For those who are new to recruiting, take everything you hear from now until NSD with a grain of salt.
Yes that is good advice.
However, it should also be mentioned that Quick is not the type to try and build suspense when there isn't any. As Whitfong said on 247, if Quick announces for UL it will be because he changed his mind.
I think he picks the Buckeyes.