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Hearing Butler CC LB Tommy Sanders will visit Columbus this weekend.

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steensn on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:02pm #

Very interesting... it seems the coaching staff are VERY worried about starting LBs next year.

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otrain2416 on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:05pm #

hopefully this isn't a sign that were not looking so hot with our other LBs

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lljjgg on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:08pm #

My thoughts exactly.

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Hayze on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:32pm #

Don't think its this. This is just an example of the difference in coaching style between Meyer and Tressel. We want 2-3 LBs, Meyer goes after 7-8 guys for those spots, Tressel goes after 3, maybe 4 guys.

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M tots on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:28pm #

Looks like his final 3 schools are Ohio State, Mississippi State, and Texas A&M.

https://twitter.com/ScoutSteveR/status/276104830110556160

EDIT: Interesting that of his reported final 3, we are the only ones he doesn't have an offer from. He does have some other quality offers from the likes of Kansas State and Baylor, so he must really like what Coach Meyer is selling. Can't say I blame him.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ucf/football/recruiting/player-Tommy-Sanders-141177;_ylt=AoMrF9vD8pusNEXZHQvDsRnEuJB4

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b_pbucksfans on 4 Dec 2012 - 9:28pm #

If thats a legit 40 time on Rivals, thats impressive. Could you imagine Shazier, Perkins, Mitchell and Sanders at LB? thats "SEC" speed!

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M tots on 4 Dec 2012 - 10:24pm #

Indeed, that would be scary.

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carton on 5 Dec 2012 - 8:31am #

You one of those "SEC" chanters??

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bergy22 on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:15pm #

We have Shazier penciled in with a starting job. The rest of the positions are up for grabs essentially between two Juniors (Grant + RS So.Crowell) and 5 Sophmores (Perkins, Perry, Marcus, Williams, Roberts) and whoever we bring in this next year. Not a whole lot of starting experience or knowledge of the position present. This guy could be worth a look especially if he gives us a guy to play the middle effectively ala Boren that frees up Shazier to wreak havoc

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droessl on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:40am #

Pretty sure Shazier's name is in pen, covered with Sharpie, then laminated and sealed in museum glass for next season.

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bucknut24 on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:36pm #

I could also be Urban's subtle way of putting pressure on the guys he wants to decide sooner rather than later after all he majored in psychology.

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BuckeyeAsylum on 5 Dec 2012 - 9:36am #

People are highly competitive, give them a competitor and they'll get things done faster(and possibly better). Saw something yesterday on History channel about how Egyptians used a head to head concept like this for the teams pushing those huge blocks up the pyramid. Amazing how powerful the desire to beat others can be. :D

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OSUBias on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:51am #

Somewhere Coach Marotti is reading this post and grinning an evil grin. You just have him an idea for a 4am winter workout.

When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."

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jestertcf on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:36pm #

Before we get to worried, please remember Marcus Freeman was a JUCO transfer as well. That worked out pretty well.

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crusher on 4 Dec 2012 - 9:42pm #

Freeman wasn't a Juco, you are thinking of Larry Grant

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Brutus' Left Nut on 5 Dec 2012 - 1:31am #

JJ Watt was basically a JUCO transfer

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buckeye76BHop on 5 Dec 2012 - 9:35am #

He also played TE all the way up until his senior year at Wiscy when he switced to DE...and had a pretty damn good season that year.  

BTW Brutus' Left Nut, I first saw that pic of yours (and a damn nice too I might add) on a tTUN site a long time ago (clicked the image and that's where it took me...bc I don't go there willingly).  Sent it to all my Buckeye friends via text....needless to say they all saved it;-)  Best body art I've possibly ever seen...good stuff.

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Alex on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:15am #

Freeman was not a JuCO....Larry Grant was

EDIT: John Kerr came from Indiana, which apparently isn't JuCo

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mclovin on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:27am #

I didn't know Indiana was JuCo.  That's where Kerr transferred from.

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Alex on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:35am #

you are right....I don't know what I was thinking...got it mixed up with the Boren transfer rule....but IU might as well be JuCO....Grant WAS JuCo though

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mclovin on 5 Dec 2012 - 1:09pm #

I knew you knew.  Only reason I remember is that I remember hearing that interleague transfers like Kerr are not eligible for any financial support -- scholarships included -- which to me would have been a pretty significant deterrent.  Hope that one year in the pros was worth it for Mr. Kerr.

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Bolt on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:45am #

You didn't know Indiana was a JuCo????

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Run_Fido_Run on 5 Dec 2012 - 12:28pm #

Indiana is a hybrid institution: all-time Top 10 basketball program; top 40 public research university; JUCO football program; and a bicycle race that uses equipment stolen from a 1960s grade school playground:

 

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Bolt on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:24am #

Marcus Freeman was a very highly recruited LB coming out of HS that went to Ohio State as a freshman.

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tunehtraef on 4 Dec 2012 - 8:43pm #

I think it is a combination of new recruiting style (offer more) and wanting some experience to throw in that LB group in case C. Grant doesn't step-in. I think it's Grant or a true Soph., don't think anyone older will get the spot, which doesn't give a lot of game experience in college without going the JUCO route.

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SilverBulletNYC on 4 Dec 2012 - 9:45pm #

Also, a JuCo LB would be able to play right away. I think the LB position is the one area that concerns me for next year. I like this move. Get Mitchell/Johnson and a JuCo...that's what I'm talking about...

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY on 4 Dec 2012 - 9:48pm #

I like the strategy of signing a bunch of LBs. The linebacker base was weakened by all the departures and Meyer's repairing it. Up until the NCAA problems I never ever worried about our LB corps because i knew we could just plug in someone and the Silver Bullets wouldnt lose a beat. There was always someone waiting in the wings.

The impact Boren had on the defense has a lot to do with that strategy and the hole he is leaving makes it even more critical. I am thinking Meyer deep down inside has no faith in the younger backers right now. Would not be surprised to see the next RDS come in as a true frosh and start next season. Or two.

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lljjgg on 5 Dec 2012 - 12:48am #

Looked into him a bit, considered a 4-star and the #1 JUCO LB by 247.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/513008/highlights/26260374

^Just looking at his highlights, I would say he definitely appears to be a legit 4.45/40. Has the speed + athleticism matched with the very solid-tackling skills of a SS playing OLB. Definitely fits the kind of defenses Urban typically had at Florida (maybe slightly undersized, but elite speed and sure-tackling).

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otrain2416 on 5 Dec 2012 - 12:54am #

All I can say after watching his highlights is WOW. That kid is so fast. I'm kinda wondering if they sped up his highlights to make him appear faster cuz I've heard of people doing that. If thats normal speed on the film that kid had some ridiculous game speed and plays extremely FAST

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btalbert25 on 5 Dec 2012 - 12:57am #

I'll take a 4 star JUCO over a 4 star high school LB simply because he'll be able to come in day 1 and contribute.  He'll be ahead of the curve compared to a high school kid.  Bring him on!

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jarheadbuckeyefan on 5 Dec 2012 - 7:56am #

I think almost as impressive as his speed is how assignment and fundamentally sound his play appears to be at this point in time on the film. When not making some of the highlight killshots, he executes pretty much textbook technique and form on the tackles. Didn't see any plays where he may have ignored responsibilities. i could just imagine the image of him, RDS, and Spence all blitzing at once....oh the sweet carnage!

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buckeye76BHop on 5 Dec 2012 - 9:31am #

I'm not scared of taking Juco guys...Auston Johnson and Sanders are just fine and have proven themselves at their present levels.  Think about it logically...a true Freshman playing or someone who's had experience...it's really not that difficult to imagine.  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
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Optimistic Buck... on 5 Dec 2012 - 9:39am #

We are going to be fine at LB.  I think Perry will do very well and I actually think Grant will come alive.  We have too much talent on the roster to flop.  We may lack experience, but we have a long time to develop this exceptional talent.

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buckeye76BHop on 5 Dec 2012 - 2:41pm #

^^^^I really hope you're right...Boren coming over from FB wasn't a good sign for the Freshman that will be Sophomores next year.  I also REALLY hope you're right about Curtis Grant...starting to think that he'll end up like Sabino...not sure how fast they are with picking up the defensive schemes (not trying to be offensive btw).  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

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sox33osu on 5 Dec 2012 - 9:55am #

Looks like he'll make his decision a week from today. Looks good for us if we offer him.

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sfgoody on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:52am #

where are you seeing he will decide next week?

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Run_Fido_Run on 5 Dec 2012 - 11:35am #

Urbz and company are simply trying to get the odds in their favor - both in terms of this recruiting class and the LB rotation in general. Because of a bizarre sequence of bad luck, the LB cubbard had become pretty thin. No reason to think that Urbz is losing faith in the 2012 LB class. Rather, there's a pressing need to get 10-12 studs in the system and see which ones rise to the top.

Urbz and company are excellent talent evaluators, but even the best will hit home runs only a certain percentage of the time. You can't always predict which kids will blossom at the elite level. The staff will seek to balance several factors - in-house player rating (not necessarily "stars"), odds of landing the player, when he's likely to commit, will he be "game ready" his first year in the system, etc. Urbz will attempt to maximize his resources, not allowing the pursuit of perfection to be the enemy of excellence. Go all-out to land Mike Mitchell and Trey Johnson, but not be at their mercies.

And Urbz will keep loading up on LB studs until the problem is fixed. He'll try to get 3-4 studs in this class and 3-4 more next year, never mind that he just had a big LB class in 2012. Eventually, some of them will slide down the depth chart and maybe transfer. C'est la vie!

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