PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Hearing Butler CC LB Tommy Sanders will visit Columbus this weekend.
Very interesting... it seems the coaching staff are VERY worried about starting LBs next year.
hopefully this isn't a sign that were not looking so hot with our other LBs
My thoughts exactly.
Don't think its this. This is just an example of the difference in coaching style between Meyer and Tressel. We want 2-3 LBs, Meyer goes after 7-8 guys for those spots, Tressel goes after 3, maybe 4 guys.
Looks like his final 3 schools are Ohio State, Mississippi State, and Texas A&M.
EDIT: Interesting that of his reported final 3, we are the only ones he doesn't have an offer from. He does have some other quality offers from the likes of Kansas State and Baylor, so he must really like what Coach Meyer is selling. Can't say I blame him.
If thats a legit 40 time on Rivals, thats impressive. Could you imagine Shazier, Perkins, Mitchell and Sanders at LB? thats "SEC" speed!
Indeed, that would be scary.
You one of those "SEC" chanters??
We have Shazier penciled in with a starting job. The rest of the positions are up for grabs essentially between two Juniors (Grant + RS So.Crowell) and 5 Sophmores (Perkins, Perry, Marcus, Williams, Roberts) and whoever we bring in this next year. Not a whole lot of starting experience or knowledge of the position present. This guy could be worth a look especially if he gives us a guy to play the middle effectively ala Boren that frees up Shazier to wreak havoc
Pretty sure Shazier's name is in pen, covered with Sharpie, then laminated and sealed in museum glass for next season.
I could also be Urban's subtle way of putting pressure on the guys he wants to decide sooner rather than later after all he majored in psychology.
People are highly competitive, give them a competitor and they'll get things done faster(and possibly better). Saw something yesterday on History channel about how Egyptians used a head to head concept like this for the teams pushing those huge blocks up the pyramid. Amazing how powerful the desire to beat others can be. :D
Because I haven't said it recently enough, Buck Michigan!
Somewhere Coach Marotti is reading this post and grinning an evil grin. You just have him an idea for a 4am winter workout.
Before we get to worried, please remember Marcus Freeman was a JUCO transfer as well. That worked out pretty well.
~Because we couldn't go for three~
Freeman wasn't a Juco, you are thinking of Larry Grant
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
JJ Watt was basically a JUCO transfer
He also played TE all the way up until his senior year at Wiscy when he switced to DE...and had a pretty damn good season that year.
BTW Brutus' Left Nut, I first saw that pic of yours (and a damn nice too I might add) on a tTUN site a long time ago (clicked the image and that's where it took me...bc I don't go there willingly). Sent it to all my Buckeye friends via text....needless to say they all saved it;-) Best body art I've possibly ever seen...good stuff.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
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Freeman was not a JuCO....Larry Grant was
EDIT: John Kerr came from Indiana, which apparently isn't JuCo
I didn't know Indiana was JuCo. That's where Kerr transferred from.
you are right....I don't know what I was thinking...got it mixed up with the Boren transfer rule....but IU might as well be JuCO....Grant WAS JuCo though
I knew you knew. Only reason I remember is that I remember hearing that interleague transfers like Kerr are not eligible for any financial support -- scholarships included -- which to me would have been a pretty significant deterrent. Hope that one year in the pros was worth it for Mr. Kerr.
You didn't know Indiana was a JuCo????
Indiana is a hybrid institution: all-time Top 10 basketball program; top 40 public research university; JUCO football program; and a bicycle race that uses equipment stolen from a 1960s grade school playground:
Marcus Freeman was a very highly recruited LB coming out of HS that went to Ohio State as a freshman.
I think it is a combination of new recruiting style (offer more) and wanting some experience to throw in that LB group in case C. Grant doesn't step-in. I think it's Grant or a true Soph., don't think anyone older will get the spot, which doesn't give a lot of game experience in college without going the JUCO route.
Also, a JuCo LB would be able to play right away. I think the LB position is the one area that concerns me for next year. I like this move. Get Mitchell/Johnson and a JuCo...that's what I'm talking about...
The South will NOT rise again!
I like the strategy of signing a bunch of LBs. The linebacker base was weakened by all the departures and Meyer's repairing it. Up until the NCAA problems I never ever worried about our LB corps because i knew we could just plug in someone and the Silver Bullets wouldnt lose a beat. There was always someone waiting in the wings.
The impact Boren had on the defense has a lot to do with that strategy and the hole he is leaving makes it even more critical. I am thinking Meyer deep down inside has no faith in the younger backers right now. Would not be surprised to see the next RDS come in as a true frosh and start next season. Or two.
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.
Looked into him a bit, considered a 4-star and the #1 JUCO LB by 247.
^Just looking at his highlights, I would say he definitely appears to be a legit 4.45/40. Has the speed + athleticism matched with the very solid-tackling skills of a SS playing OLB. Definitely fits the kind of defenses Urban typically had at Florida (maybe slightly undersized, but elite speed and sure-tackling).
All I can say after watching his highlights is WOW. That kid is so fast. I'm kinda wondering if they sped up his highlights to make him appear faster cuz I've heard of people doing that. If thats normal speed on the film that kid had some ridiculous game speed and plays extremely FAST
I'll take a 4 star JUCO over a 4 star high school LB simply because he'll be able to come in day 1 and contribute. He'll be ahead of the curve compared to a high school kid. Bring him on!
I think almost as impressive as his speed is how assignment and fundamentally sound his play appears to be at this point in time on the film. When not making some of the highlight killshots, he executes pretty much textbook technique and form on the tackles. Didn't see any plays where he may have ignored responsibilities. i could just imagine the image of him, RDS, and Spence all blitzing at once....oh the sweet carnage!
"The only meaningful statistic is number of games won."~ Woody Hayes
I'm not scared of taking Juco guys...Auston Johnson and Sanders are just fine and have proven themselves at their present levels. Think about it logically...a true Freshman playing or someone who's had experience...it's really not that difficult to imagine.
We are going to be fine at LB. I think Perry will do very well and I actually think Grant will come alive. We have too much talent on the roster to flop. We may lack experience, but we have a long time to develop this exceptional talent.
^^^^I really hope you're right...Boren coming over from FB wasn't a good sign for the Freshman that will be Sophomores next year. I also REALLY hope you're right about Curtis Grant...starting to think that he'll end up like Sabino...not sure how fast they are with picking up the defensive schemes (not trying to be offensive btw).
Looks like he'll make his decision a week from today. Looks good for us if we offer him.
where are you seeing he will decide next week?
Urbz and company are simply trying to get the odds in their favor - both in terms of this recruiting class and the LB rotation in general. Because of a bizarre sequence of bad luck, the LB cubbard had become pretty thin. No reason to think that Urbz is losing faith in the 2012 LB class. Rather, there's a pressing need to get 10-12 studs in the system and see which ones rise to the top.
Urbz and company are excellent talent evaluators, but even the best will hit home runs only a certain percentage of the time. You can't always predict which kids will blossom at the elite level. The staff will seek to balance several factors - in-house player rating (not necessarily "stars"), odds of landing the player, when he's likely to commit, will he be "game ready" his first year in the system, etc. Urbz will attempt to maximize his resources, not allowing the pursuit of perfection to be the enemy of excellence. Go all-out to land Mike Mitchell and Trey Johnson, but not be at their mercies.
And Urbz will keep loading up on LB studs until the problem is fixed. He'll try to get 3-4 studs in this class and 3-4 more next year, never mind that he just had a big LB class in 2012. Eventually, some of them will slide down the depth chart and maybe transfer. C'est la vie!
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